jsalsman
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125
32
Source: https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/09/02/clinton-still-struggles-sanders-democrats
See also: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/a-sanders-surge-in-polling-if-not-delegates/477198
+/- numbers are net favorability; source: The Economist
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/11/independents-outnumber-democrats-and-republicans-but-theyre-not-very-independent/
Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx
Source: http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/02/01/could-michael-bloomberg-win
Source: YouGov
Source: HuffPo Politics data
Source: Vox.com
Source: RealClearPolitics
Source: FeelTheBern.org
Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal/Sanders Campaign
Source: Rasmussen
xmaneds
a lot of this is old data from mid-2016; do you think that nothing (no opinions) have changed since then?
boopysnoot
Facts have no place in politics, the fuck outta here.
Heyarentyouthatguy
I've always wondered why most dems aren't pissed at the DNC Instead of most Trumpers. Bernie would have won I think against Trump.
thebix84
MORE liberal than Bernie?? That's a thing??
S3lvah
Why yes, it is. Bernie's platform is center-left in Europe, and (as seen in the Vox poll) pretty vanilla for US voters, too.
TibztheSugarGlider
#1 i vote bern dem all
TwatSprinkle
Sanders was worse than Hillary. Thank god their party fucked him.
BigMistakeBigHUGE
Lol your citations are from Sanders Campaign, how unbiased.
PresidentProTempore
Like two citations. Out of over 10. Even with those oit of the mix the result would be the same.
ragingrei
Feel free to find us data that disagrees.
BigMistakeBigHUGE
You're missing the point, try making a point point (data, facts etc) with a biased stat. No one goes a shit
ragingrei
My point is that, in politics, you're rarely going to find an unbiased source. Even independent polling organizations have leanings.
mrsmeeseeks
I liked Sanders and even I find that silly to include ahaha
mrsmeeseeks
Something I find interesting is how there are studies that show how over the last 15 years especially the two parties have become extremely
mrsmeeseeks
Polarized. Jonathon Haidt has a video on YouTube explaining all the reasons of why this could have happened. I found it really interesting.
mrsmeeseeks
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RhoGx7bTzko For anyone who is interested :)
TheDeanofLean
Why isn't the Republican Party divided like the Democratic Party is?
blackhalo
It is. There is a powerful anti-Trump wing of the party. John McCain, Romney, GW Bush... They just can't get elected in a Red State now.
SnoBored
Who cares? I mean that seriously... even with the issues of the DNC bias there was little in terms of edits to the actually primary (1/3)
SnoBored
System to fuck bernie specifically it was more it hust favours and insider candidate. Furthermore he couldnt convince Dems not Inds (2/3)
SnoBored
To vote for him which is a major failing to use the system, like hillary failed against trump. Also its pointless to say this from a
SnoBored
Persepctive of Bernie use the policies more as thats what matters in 2 years. Bernie is no a what if and hindsight is 2020
jerepierre
Hillary lost because her voters weren't distributed properly.
SomeCrazyNerd
She spent too little time and money where it mattered . More on Michigan, Florida and Ohio and she might have won.
WafflesOfMassDeliciousness
She's horrifically unpopular outside major cities. Bernie was actually fairly popular with more rural America.
cormister
I firmly believe that if sanders won the primary, most moderates and many independents would vote rep because socialism is bad
ItTastesLikePurple
This. His relative unknown status was to his benefit to approval, but call him "socialist" enough and those numbers would tank.
TygrF
Yes, if Bern had won, then *EVERYONE* would have found out how ludicrous his economic policies are. Full Trump landslide ensues.
FullCrimsonic
Yeah, horseshit. Next time a house catches fire or there's a murder, don't bother calling fire or police. They are funded through tax
TygrF
LOL. You forgot "Wut about MUH ROADS!" There's completely effective privately funded police, fire & rescue forces already working here.
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CaffeineIV
Nah, Trump got more votes than Romney once they were all counted: Trump: 62,979,636 Romney: 60,933,504
CaffeineIV
Nah, Trump got more votes than Romney once they were all counted: Trump: 62,979,636 Romney: 60,933,504
drnathaniel
A lot of the reason for this was the shellacking that Hillary got through the entire election, mostly undeserved. (Email, for instance)
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
What's really frustrating is Bernie used those same lies to advantage himself. He also lied about him being cheated in any way.
ItTastesLikePurple
She's also been taking a shellacking for 25 years in the public eye. I guarantee the GOP had their own opp file ready to roll on Bernie.
PresidentProTempore
Even more reason she was highly unelectable. It's not fair, but politics arent fair. That's also why Bernie didnt win.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Bernie caucuses with Dems who also raised "that dirty" money for him; then he stabbed them in the back by pandering. He never had to /1
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
COMPROMISE because he was in a very liberal, very white state, but he pretended that other Democrats, who DID have to compromise, were /2
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
just not "real" democrats. Also, the only time his principles got in the way of election (assault weapons) he flipped like a Jedi /3
JohnDillingersPenis
Splitting hairs but Sanders is more of a progressive than a liberal.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
As a Democrat, progressives are a fucking embarrassment.
FullCrimsonic
No YOU are the fucking embarrassment. Your democrat lost against the most disliked candidate in history. Fuck you.
FullCrimsonic
BTW. Free college, healthcare, legalised weed, taxing the rich, background checks on guns. All policies of Bernie sanders
WafflesOfMassDeliciousness
As nice as those all sound, it's not realistic.
FullCrimsonic
Really? Go talk to someone from Sweden Denmark Norway england Canada or australia
WatcherNotCreeper
We knew Bernie would have been a better candidate, but alas, his Party f'd him over. We don't need stats to prove this, but cool stuff
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WatcherNotCreeper
You're not dragging me into the fake news!
ThePeoplesOpinion
His campaign was also undermined by the DNC. So... There's that.
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JohnDillingersPenis
WRONG
ThePeoplesOpinion
And yet it took super delegate to break the tie. Super delegates who supported Hillary's campaign.
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