Aug 6, 2016 11:20 AM
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jotnotes
Whoa, whoa. Isn't the Team Rocket Motto that Jesse and James say a mistake or something?
josithefox
Except for when you watch the movie and Giovanni just wants to take over the world...
DrAMcC
....This is total gibberish
Dudeofallteenages
In Red the first Rocket grunt you see literally tells you they're pokemon gangsters.
IronBowser
In Gen I, Psychic was immune to Ghost so why would Giovanni need the Silph Scope to catch a Ghost-type to defeat Mewtwo?
SavageBadunkadunk
Yeah but Team Rocket in the show were always trying to catch and eat pokemon.. Don't believe me, go watch it all again for yourself
MrUnfortunate
Yeah, and didn't they cut off the tails of most of the slowpokes in the Azalea town?
Daneasaur
Mixing the anime with the games = you're an idiot and you will get BOTH stories wrong. Stick to one or the other. They are not alike.
gethiptothewiz
Team Flair is the dumbest one
MrIllustrious
Except that's the Jessie/James/Meowth motto, don't Butch and Cassidy say the ACTUAL motto that Team Rocket members are SUPPOSED to use?
Kpizza96
Isn't the team rocket motto used here technically wrong?
committme
Funnymama.com has all the Pokemon background.
If you wanna be a funker. Apparently.
MaelstromVanguard
Several people in the games talk about Team Rocket stealing Pokemon, and in gen 2 they run a Slowpoke tail harvesting scheme.
LapisScarab
Fun little idea but not at all supported by the actual stuff in the games. Team Rocket were criminals, that was the point.
MaverickEsq
Yeah Team Rocket also steal pokemon in the games, if you go into the Rocket Warehouse on the Sevii islands, its full of cages for stolen mon
TyrionLannisterTheImp
Good job breaking it, hero.
Scrotumpunch
You know, this sounds a lot like team Rocket wrote it.
Bigbadsmell
"Everyone is the hero in their own story"
Alsenoth
That's not their motto. Jessie and James are incompetent and mess it up. Bitch and Cassify recite the right motto:
To infect the world with devestation, to blight all people in every nation, to denounce the goodness of truth and love,
To extend our wrath to the stars above. Team rocket, circling eath both day and night, surrender now or you'll surely lose the fight.
Autocorrect. Geeze. *Butch
Allegro21
The typo, "is a Psychic type so he's resistant to Ghosts" bothers me..especially when the next sentence contradicts what was just said
Rc58
"Mewtwo is a psychic type, so he's resistant to ghosts. Which is why Gio needed a ghost. You know, for reasons."
smashpro1
It's true in Gen 1, though. And the Gastly family is hurt by Psychic moves due to their part-Poison typing.
Taxicab0428
right, but then why would he need ghost pokemon to take down mewtwo when mewtwo is resistant to and super effective against them?
Ya I remember the Gen 1 strengths. I was just pointing out the terribly written sentence. If it wasn't Gen 1 it's a typo and if it is in 1/2
regards to Gen 1 then it wouldn't make sense to need to the Silph Scope/a Ghost Pokemon. The sentence is just a mess haha 2/2
aPurpleLiger
Ghost is neutral to psychic, not resistant
Ignore that I misread. Still doesn't make sense to get a ghost when mew two isn't hurt by them
Haleneri
In gen 1 psychic types were immune to ghost attacks because of a bug.
Ya I remember. Which make's the sentence even weirder to say. Because in that case why would he go through the trouble of capturing a Ghost
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
Isn't psychic weak against ghost, and vice versa?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type/Type_chart
In Gen 1 Ghost attacks can't hurt psychic. In every other game though Ghost is 2x (SE) against Psychic and Psychic does 1x(normal) to Ghost
A1ekazam
Actually if you really pay attention you would know that in the anime Jessie and James get the motto wrong.
RDRooster95
Anyone else forget that Team Rocket used to fucking cut off slowpoke tails and sell them? Anyone?
Nuclearite47
Well, they grow back,
Mal1t1a
Hey kid, want to buy a slowpoke tail? Only ₱1,000,000!
notaballoon
Since when is he "stripped of his gym leader" title? You just beat him. As far as I know that's it.
bloxman
Yes
TrustMeImABassist
Welp, the motto ins also anime-only. I like Team Rocket exactly by the opposite reason: They are real criminals. No bizarre motive behind >>
ArchMagos
The motto Jessie and James use has been said to be wrong by other more competent team rocket agents.
Rapiecage
iirc the motto is manga only, don't even know if it's in anime. And the manga is very different
bkeljda
Its definitely in the anime. I still watch the first two seasons with my kids.
ZeroX54321
It is in the anime but Jessie and James constantly say it wrong according to butch and Cassidy
Raithul
This. He says that they don't steal pokemon in the games, only the anime, then goes on to make his theories on the anime-only motto... -_-
Goo0
Don't they say it in Pokemon yellow
Yellow is completely based on the anime. I don't even consider it canon. [
ChainsawHandsJoe
They literally say things like, "We need this to do evil."
>> their actions, just greed. They are real villains, not eco-terrorists, fashion nazis, waterworld cosplayers etc
ImHereToPissYouOff
Watetworld cosplayers are always so intense.
They are the worst. Fear them.
fe1od1or
Also, the actual motto is completely different, Butch and Cassidy from the anime say so.
LordEzra
No! This annoys me so much. Jesse and James actually have the motto wrong. In one episode, different team rocket members say the right one.
sfearrai
THANK you! :D
What's the right one??
Syyd
Butch and Cassidy say this is the correct motto: Prepare for trouble, and make it double. Here's our mission, so you better listen! --
To infect the world with devastation! To blight all people in every nation! To denounce the goodness of truth and love! To extend our --
wrath to the stars above! Cassidy! And Butch, of course! We're Team Rocket, circling Earth all day and night! Surrender to us now or you --
will surely lose the fight! (There have also been toooonnnss of variations on Jesse and James' motto for all different situations)
killdread
just a bit of an interesting note, "team flare" was improperly translated and should be "team flair"
Giganotosaurus
In the games they kill a fucking marowak. End of story. Coulda just used surf on her but no.
icyanddicey
No, Marowak killed themselves while running away from Team Rocket. Marowak was basically a deserter and those deserve to die.
Niphanos
Yeah, but you also crush Gary's dreams and kill his Raticate and spin it so that his grandfather is mad at him about it all.
Rhewin
That wad just a fan theory that's been proven untrue
ByTheBeardOfSeuss
Red kills Gary's Raticate in the original game, so you're effectively playing as a monster.
Gonz000
I mean, it's animal fighting. And a world based around it. Everyone's a monster in all technicality
GodEmperorsloyalCustodes
It's actually thought that Gary uses the boxes to switch out his Pokemon, seeing as in one fight he has a level 15 Rattata and the next 1/?
Fight was with the level 16 Raticate, however Rattata only evolves at level 20
Satsuiki
This. Valid. Truth. Game Theory tells all.
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
Remember when Team Plasma beat a Munna to obtain an item that would allow them to manipulate people? And Ghetsis threatened to begin 1/?
Vandalising Driftveil City in broad daylight if Clay didn't release 8 grunts & a Sage from custody? And froze over an entire city to 2/?
Steal an item that would allow them to forcefully fuse Reshiram and Kyurem into an incomplete pokemon? And just manipulated people into 3/4
Leaving behind Pokemon that loved and wanted to stay with them, but clouded their judgement with guilt? Yeah, they were the worst IMHO.
MumyoSakanagare
Psychic type is weak against ghost type.
In Gen 1 psychic is immune to ghost
Damn it is. It's been so long since I played Blue I guess. Time to hang up my trainer card lol.
Supposedly it was a glitch though, so I think you can keep your trainer card on a technicality ;)
whyisthisusernametaken
silvirus
"Wrong"
ParanoidWithGoodCause
well this explains why Red's ghost is haunting Mt. Silver in Gold/Silver or HG/SS (best boss fight in the entire franchise btw)
Voltair
He's just trapped on MT. silver since none of his Pokemon know any HMs.
his friends and family apparently haven't heard from him in years, trapped that long in freezing cold with no supplies, yeah he ded
Locken
Red isn't dead. He appeared in gen. 5 as a tournament boss
DisgruntledFerret
Yeah, he's only socially dead. He whites out after you beat him because that's what happens when you lose as a hero in the original game.
charismaticneutral
What why? What's gen 5? Is that X/Y or black and white? I lost track after Emerald
B/W/B2/W2. Not sure what you mean by why, but in those games there's a massive tournament that includes basically all the previous 1/2
Gym leaders, E4, and Red. It's fuckin cool. 2/2
I never bothered with that, but would other protagonists such as Lyra, Kris, Brandon/May(? Is that his name?) Lucas/Dawn appear?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_World_Tournament
Unfortunately the rivals (other than Blue because he's a Gym Leader and the B/W rivals) aren't in it, but everyone else is.
UltraBooster
Can someone explain this to me? Is G/S revisiting the first game? Or is it a remake?
no, the "post game" in G/S opens up the original region including the original 8 gyms, legendaries, and finally Mt. Silver.
With the same leaders? Also, what did original comment mean by "reds ghost"
yep, except that Giovanni has been replaced by Blue the rival from R/B. Red the protagonist from R/B is the final Boss on top of Mt. Silver
That sounds tight! Is he really difficult?
when you beat him rather than leaving or using a pokemon move to get away he fades out like the ghost marowak from R/B
ChubbyTotoro
Wait a minute, I don't follow the step: He is resistant to Ghost, so Giovanni knew he needed a ghost. Isnt using a ghost a terrible idea?
psychic is weak to ghost. OP isn't too bright
Not in gen 1 it's not
Or just made a typo
In gen 1 it's immune to ghost and hits ghost types neutrally
Cyclopentadien
That's because all ghost types have poison as their secondary type.
Psychic moves are super effective against the ghastly family because poison is weak to it and ghost is neutral
What I said was it hits ghost types neutrally. What you read was it hits the ghost type Pokemon present in gen 1 neutrally.
jotnotes
Whoa, whoa. Isn't the Team Rocket Motto that Jesse and James say a mistake or something?
josithefox
Except for when you watch the movie and Giovanni just wants to take over the world...
DrAMcC
....This is total gibberish
Dudeofallteenages
In Red the first Rocket grunt you see literally tells you they're pokemon gangsters.
IronBowser
In Gen I, Psychic was immune to Ghost so why would Giovanni need the Silph Scope to catch a Ghost-type to defeat Mewtwo?
SavageBadunkadunk
Yeah but Team Rocket in the show were always trying to catch and eat pokemon.. Don't believe me, go watch it all again for yourself
MrUnfortunate
Yeah, and didn't they cut off the tails of most of the slowpokes in the Azalea town?
Daneasaur
Mixing the anime with the games = you're an idiot and you will get BOTH stories wrong. Stick to one or the other. They are not alike.
gethiptothewiz
Team Flair is the dumbest one
MrIllustrious
Except that's the Jessie/James/Meowth motto, don't Butch and Cassidy say the ACTUAL motto that Team Rocket members are SUPPOSED to use?
Kpizza96
Isn't the team rocket motto used here technically wrong?
committme
Funnymama.com has all the Pokemon background.
committme
If you wanna be a funker. Apparently.
MaelstromVanguard
Several people in the games talk about Team Rocket stealing Pokemon, and in gen 2 they run a Slowpoke tail harvesting scheme.
LapisScarab
Fun little idea but not at all supported by the actual stuff in the games. Team Rocket were criminals, that was the point.
MaverickEsq
Yeah Team Rocket also steal pokemon in the games, if you go into the Rocket Warehouse on the Sevii islands, its full of cages for stolen mon
TyrionLannisterTheImp
Good job breaking it, hero.
Scrotumpunch
You know, this sounds a lot like team Rocket wrote it.
Bigbadsmell
"Everyone is the hero in their own story"
Alsenoth
That's not their motto. Jessie and James are incompetent and mess it up. Bitch and Cassify recite the right motto:
Alsenoth
To infect the world with devestation, to blight all people in every nation, to denounce the goodness of truth and love,
Alsenoth
To extend our wrath to the stars above. Team rocket, circling eath both day and night, surrender now or you'll surely lose the fight.
Alsenoth
Autocorrect. Geeze. *Butch
Allegro21
The typo, "is a Psychic type so he's resistant to Ghosts" bothers me..especially when the next sentence contradicts what was just said
Rc58
"Mewtwo is a psychic type, so he's resistant to ghosts. Which is why Gio needed a ghost. You know, for reasons."
smashpro1
It's true in Gen 1, though. And the Gastly family is hurt by Psychic moves due to their part-Poison typing.
Taxicab0428
right, but then why would he need ghost pokemon to take down mewtwo when mewtwo is resistant to and super effective against them?
Allegro21
Ya I remember the Gen 1 strengths. I was just pointing out the terribly written sentence. If it wasn't Gen 1 it's a typo and if it is in 1/2
Allegro21
regards to Gen 1 then it wouldn't make sense to need to the Silph Scope/a Ghost Pokemon. The sentence is just a mess haha 2/2
aPurpleLiger
Ghost is neutral to psychic, not resistant
aPurpleLiger
Ignore that I misread. Still doesn't make sense to get a ghost when mew two isn't hurt by them
Haleneri
In gen 1 psychic types were immune to ghost attacks because of a bug.
Allegro21
Ya I remember. Which make's the sentence even weirder to say. Because in that case why would he go through the trouble of capturing a Ghost
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
Isn't psychic weak against ghost, and vice versa?
aPurpleLiger
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type/Type_chart
Allegro21
In Gen 1 Ghost attacks can't hurt psychic. In every other game though Ghost is 2x (SE) against Psychic and Psychic does 1x(normal) to Ghost
A1ekazam
Actually if you really pay attention you would know that in the anime Jessie and James get the motto wrong.
RDRooster95
Anyone else forget that Team Rocket used to fucking cut off slowpoke tails and sell them? Anyone?
Nuclearite47
Well, they grow back,
Mal1t1a
Hey kid, want to buy a slowpoke tail? Only ₱1,000,000!
notaballoon
Since when is he "stripped of his gym leader" title? You just beat him. As far as I know that's it.
bloxman
Yes
TrustMeImABassist
Welp, the motto ins also anime-only. I like Team Rocket exactly by the opposite reason: They are real criminals. No bizarre motive behind >>
ArchMagos
The motto Jessie and James use has been said to be wrong by other more competent team rocket agents.
Rapiecage
iirc the motto is manga only, don't even know if it's in anime. And the manga is very different
bkeljda
Its definitely in the anime. I still watch the first two seasons with my kids.
ZeroX54321
It is in the anime but Jessie and James constantly say it wrong according to butch and Cassidy
Raithul
This. He says that they don't steal pokemon in the games, only the anime, then goes on to make his theories on the anime-only motto... -_-
Goo0
Don't they say it in Pokemon yellow
TrustMeImABassist
Yellow is completely based on the anime. I don't even consider it canon. [
ChainsawHandsJoe
They literally say things like, "We need this to do evil."
TrustMeImABassist
>> their actions, just greed. They are real villains, not eco-terrorists, fashion nazis, waterworld cosplayers etc
ImHereToPissYouOff
Watetworld cosplayers are always so intense.
TrustMeImABassist
They are the worst. Fear them.
fe1od1or
Also, the actual motto is completely different, Butch and Cassidy from the anime say so.
LordEzra
No! This annoys me so much. Jesse and James actually have the motto wrong. In one episode, different team rocket members say the right one.
sfearrai
THANK you! :D
Nuclearite47
What's the right one??
Syyd
Butch and Cassidy say this is the correct motto: Prepare for trouble, and make it double. Here's our mission, so you better listen! --
Syyd
To infect the world with devastation! To blight all people in every nation! To denounce the goodness of truth and love! To extend our --
Syyd
wrath to the stars above! Cassidy! And Butch, of course! We're Team Rocket, circling Earth all day and night! Surrender to us now or you --
Syyd
will surely lose the fight! (There have also been toooonnnss of variations on Jesse and James' motto for all different situations)
killdread
just a bit of an interesting note, "team flare" was improperly translated and should be "team flair"
Giganotosaurus
In the games they kill a fucking marowak. End of story. Coulda just used surf on her but no.
icyanddicey
No, Marowak killed themselves while running away from Team Rocket. Marowak was basically a deserter and those deserve to die.
Niphanos
Yeah, but you also crush Gary's dreams and kill his Raticate and spin it so that his grandfather is mad at him about it all.
Rhewin
That wad just a fan theory that's been proven untrue
ByTheBeardOfSeuss
Red kills Gary's Raticate in the original game, so you're effectively playing as a monster.
Gonz000
I mean, it's animal fighting. And a world based around it. Everyone's a monster in all technicality
GodEmperorsloyalCustodes
It's actually thought that Gary uses the boxes to switch out his Pokemon, seeing as in one fight he has a level 15 Rattata and the next 1/?
GodEmperorsloyalCustodes
Fight was with the level 16 Raticate, however Rattata only evolves at level 20
Satsuiki
This. Valid. Truth. Game Theory tells all.
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
Remember when Team Plasma beat a Munna to obtain an item that would allow them to manipulate people? And Ghetsis threatened to begin 1/?
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
Vandalising Driftveil City in broad daylight if Clay didn't release 8 grunts & a Sage from custody? And froze over an entire city to 2/?
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
Steal an item that would allow them to forcefully fuse Reshiram and Kyurem into an incomplete pokemon? And just manipulated people into 3/4
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
Leaving behind Pokemon that loved and wanted to stay with them, but clouded their judgement with guilt? Yeah, they were the worst IMHO.
MumyoSakanagare
Psychic type is weak against ghost type.
Rc58
In Gen 1 psychic is immune to ghost
MumyoSakanagare
Damn it is. It's been so long since I played Blue I guess. Time to hang up my trainer card lol.
Rc58
Supposedly it was a glitch though, so I think you can keep your trainer card on a technicality ;)
whyisthisusernametaken
silvirus
"Wrong"
ParanoidWithGoodCause
well this explains why Red's ghost is haunting Mt. Silver in Gold/Silver or HG/SS (best boss fight in the entire franchise btw)
Voltair
He's just trapped on MT. silver since none of his Pokemon know any HMs.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
his friends and family apparently haven't heard from him in years, trapped that long in freezing cold with no supplies, yeah he ded
Locken
Red isn't dead. He appeared in gen. 5 as a tournament boss
DisgruntledFerret
Yeah, he's only socially dead. He whites out after you beat him because that's what happens when you lose as a hero in the original game.
charismaticneutral
What why? What's gen 5? Is that X/Y or black and white? I lost track after Emerald
LapisScarab
B/W/B2/W2. Not sure what you mean by why, but in those games there's a massive tournament that includes basically all the previous 1/2
LapisScarab
Gym leaders, E4, and Red. It's fuckin cool. 2/2
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
I never bothered with that, but would other protagonists such as Lyra, Kris, Brandon/May(? Is that his name?) Lucas/Dawn appear?
LapisScarab
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_World_Tournament
LapisScarab
Unfortunately the rivals (other than Blue because he's a Gym Leader and the B/W rivals) aren't in it, but everyone else is.
UltraBooster
Can someone explain this to me? Is G/S revisiting the first game? Or is it a remake?
ParanoidWithGoodCause
no, the "post game" in G/S opens up the original region including the original 8 gyms, legendaries, and finally Mt. Silver.
UltraBooster
With the same leaders? Also, what did original comment mean by "reds ghost"
ParanoidWithGoodCause
yep, except that Giovanni has been replaced by Blue the rival from R/B. Red the protagonist from R/B is the final Boss on top of Mt. Silver
UltraBooster
That sounds tight! Is he really difficult?
ParanoidWithGoodCause
when you beat him rather than leaving or using a pokemon move to get away he fades out like the ghost marowak from R/B
ChubbyTotoro
Wait a minute, I don't follow the step: He is resistant to Ghost, so Giovanni knew he needed a ghost. Isnt using a ghost a terrible idea?
Rapiecage
psychic is weak to ghost. OP isn't too bright
ZeroX54321
Not in gen 1 it's not
charismaticneutral
Or just made a typo
aPurpleLiger
In gen 1 it's immune to ghost and hits ghost types neutrally
Cyclopentadien
That's because all ghost types have poison as their secondary type.
aPurpleLiger
Psychic moves are super effective against the ghastly family because poison is weak to it and ghost is neutral
aPurpleLiger
What I said was it hits ghost types neutrally. What you read was it hits the ghost type Pokemon present in gen 1 neutrally.