AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
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#abortion #roevwade #women #womens_rights
Jun 26, 2022 12:51 PM
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
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#abortion #roevwade #women #womens_rights
possiblyafakeaccount
Which verses? I get into a lot of conversations with Christians and it’d be helpful to have a reference.
AllysiaAiua
No-no, you're missing the point. We now have less rights THAN IN THE BIBLE. WHAT THE FUCK.
bigger66
1 is not true.If you keep repeating false claims like this that anyone with knowledge of the bible knows is false,you don't help your case
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/the-bible-tells-us-when-a-fetus-becomes-a-living-being
prufock
1. I don't give a shit what the bible says.
hstein3
The Bible describes John the Baptist leaping in the womb at the sound of Mary's voice. The NT writers thought unborn children were alive.
Farricoco
What do the Harry Potter books say about it?
ObliqueRay
Welcome to Christianity in the real world. It's like communism, it sounds good on paper, but it only makes for a dystopian hellscape irl.
Jawesome19
The Bible is a fiction story and a really bad one
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
I think abortion as a form of birth control is disgusting but I don’t want this country to turn into anything near the Handmaid’s Tale.
oldbaldjewishman
Fuck the Bible.
LiillooDallasMultipass
It doesn't matter what Bible says, a LOT of people don't live by it.
Khrome
Man, I bet they had all kinds of good books in the Library of Alexandria. Also, The Epic of Gilgamesh is older than the bible.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
I know, all I’m saying is Religion is not the reason
angusd
They live by the parts they like and force others to live by the parts they don't like for themself.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
I believe the supreme court did not use anything in the Bible to support their decision. It’s a nuance most people don’t realize.
CanadaEhBuddy
So I can go to the states and stone whomever I want to death for wearing 2 different materials as clothing?
drivinmekrazy
These comments are valid but the nutters are the ones that are in the govt. Learn to turn them with knowledge. Its the only way to win!!!!!!
LurkerBee
Where does the Bible say that?
Articate
The bible does not say that. Genesis 2:7 is a stupid thing to use. Rather Leviticus 17:14 - "for life of every creature is [in] its blood".
Nasigoring
I don't give a fuck what the bible says.
TonyPitzacata
If men could get pregnant abortions would be available in gas stations
whitebbwolf
sounds weird but.... ONE thing you CAN do. This. And share it https://unfoxmycablebox.com/
SunriseNcoffee
I feel so hurt and betrayed.
DangerTrain
What the Bible says really and truly doesn't and should never matter.
saxon2060
Holy fucking shit your country was FOUNDED SPECIFICALLY SECULAR. Stop indulging any argument to do with religion. Oh well done, you caught >
saxon2060
a religious person being a hypocrite. It's their whole deal. They don't care. Just meet ANY AND EVERY argument that relates religion to >
saxon2060
laws/rules/society/the law with the fact that it's IRRELEVANT.
steerAwwPrincess
Who gives a flying fuck what a book written by a committee says! It’s fictional outdated crap. Enough of this fucking book.
favenforget
But since when has "what the Bible actually says" mattered to Christians?
SnepInTime
When it's convenient. Especially the old testament.
FeChefImgur
Bible says all kinds of shit, a lot of it contradicting other parts of the bible. People shouldn't be forced to live by a work of fiction.
Scaramucci
Part of the point of this post, actually.
LooseyGooseyBrett
Stop brining the Bible into discussions about abortion.
CraftyGiant
Since the bible supports abortion and disagrees with the christofascists about when life begins its actually useful for once.
BrightestNight
1) "First breath" was only used with Adam. Genesis 2:7. Kinda like Frankenstein giving mouth to mouth to the creature. 2) Some countries --
BrightestNight
have a "presumed-consent" meaning they can take your organs if needed. With the exception of certain religious groups. The US, however ---
BrightestNight
does require consent, usually asked when you get your driver's license. Spouses and parents can also give consent.
cyberimg
For discussion purposes, anyone has the exact book and phrase number(s) in the bible?
TakeTheStairs
there are a few, this Q is best answered by google that will bring you pages listing and quoting them all
GeneralWho
A few http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/the-bible-tells-us-when-a-fetus-becomes-a-living-being
Muunk
The reference is to Genesis 2:7. (Although there are a lot more verses that elaborate on the subject)
cyberimg
Yeah, found it as well. To be fair, those other verses tell another story, and the 2:7 specifically is not about pregnancy.
FoxFoxingtonTheThird
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Einstein9073
Numbers 5 : 19 through 22 is where the Bible instructs when and how women are to perform an abortion
ToneLock
what version of what bible ? It's been translated and revisited a few times over.
Enginerrrrrrrrr
Is there a version of the Bible in the last thousand years that doesn't have it here?
allthenamesaregone
No, because what we have now is absolutely nothing like what would have been originally written.
cjpoet
Genesis 2:7.
iamdanman
When tyranny is law, revolution is order
eightyearplan
eightyearplan
ToneLock
it was never about the bible. They just use that as an argument to gain control and authority
drunkcat
That is literally what religion is for.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
Exactly
badatediting
DonaldFuck
Isn't that what the Bible is about?
Cthulhuchooseyou
No.
ToneLock
Are you sure ? Then what is it about ?
suiseiseki
Religion has no place in government.
CausticLemonEnema
I think it's time to wage war on religion.
iwillhavethelastlaugh
No one does
CraftyGiant
Ok anarchist, who oversees the Hanford radioactive superfund site when government is abolished. How is it funded?
Deadmetal42
It has no place is modern life.
LiillooDallasMultipass
MrWobblyHead
nipplepanties
You need a population that believes that though. It's constitutional but people vote how they think.
MisterLemons
Religion is the opposite of government. Religion is the belief that man is unfit to rule itself, government *is* man ruling itself. Anyone >
MisterLemons
> in government claiming to be religious hasn't read their book of choice clearly enough or is after total control.
qwertdeep
I agree that religion and politics shouldn’t be mixed but religion isn’t always the admission that man cannot rule itself. That cuts out a/
qwertdeep
Lot of religions. Just the dominant religions of our time push the whole man can’t rule bs, or man is evil crap.Tbh it’s mainly Christianity
Khrome
Catholics: "God put me in charge.. tell me what you want and I'll see if God says its ok"
Hexrowe
"The Bible says" is in itself a distraction.
coalminersknuckle
albester
You must follow The Bible because it is The Word Of God. You must believe in God and obey Him because The Bible says so.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
I know, I only use it as a comeback for people who say it’s religiously wrong for Christians
PalaverQuader
"if a book talks to you, go see a doctor"
MechaNinja
I dunno man ... Given the heavy lifting they do with a book they've never read...
Ninjainslippers
The religious right was formed well after Roe v Wade, and it was a thinly veiled way of uniting racists.
yeahIbreedtreelizards
Including in this meme. It's life. Get over that distraction. Deal with the legality of it; trying to argue it's life/not life=distraction
Whitebeardthepirate
and they don't care, because to them it's "their belief, and you're ignorant if you question it"
LooseyGooseyBrett
People need to stop brining the Bible into discussions about abortion.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
And that’s exactly my point!!
ManicDepressiveMuffin
"ThE bIbLe SaYs" "I don't give a fuck what the bible says, Karen"
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
Or just say “actually it doesn’t say that” end of story.
ManicDepressiveMuffin
But see, I don't care what it does or does not say. Their imaginary friend should not dictate my life.
bigger66
its also a false statement. bible doesn't say that at all. just a pointless argument since anti-abortion people don't use the bible as
bigger66
an argument. I only ever see the bible even mentioned by pro-choice people
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
I mean it does say that Eve was created from one of Adam’s ribs, I don’t know how people believe in this shit
3rdEden
My random fictional book does allow for abortions.
JohnMike64
Mine has magic and sex on unicorns
zoeelane201
My random fictional book requires them in some cases. Oh and, theirs gives instructions on how to perform one in the case of adultery.
ABonkeysManana
*SUSPECTED adultery. Imagine a world in which religion is dead and secular values prevail.
jbaranski
Sure, but when someone believes 100% that their religion supersedes everything, shifting their perspective might be easier than upending it.
jbaranski
Context: I am a lifelong Christian who’s perspective has shifted from the hateful ideologies, but still find my identity in Christ.
Hexrowe
Sure, cognitive dissonance can encourage people to examine their beliefs. But that should be a personal matter, not part of public policy.
jbaranski
I agree, but those types of religious people believe it should permeate all aspects of culture. So I like to focus on changing that belief.
jbaranski
I don’t think I’m right you’re wrong. I think both strategies should be used
Hexrowe
Yeah, I can agree with that - in the words of Bruce Lee, learn all you can, and use whatever works. :)
AtmaDarkwolf
If they truly followed this, 'at first breath' then an embryo is not 'alive' and it is not 'killing/murdering' babies to abort.
AtmaDarkwolf
since it is not 'alive' until post birth when it 'takes its first breath' - don't for one second think these hypocrites actually follow that
AtmaDarkwolf
they will twist, mistranslate, throw shade, cycrilic double talk, and bullshit if only to cause as much suffering to anyone not like 'them'