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Your weakness as a human being diminishes their legitimate struggle and sacrifice. Stop it.
Front Page Edit:
Some people think I am saying that people with PTSD from non-military experiences are lesser than others. I was actually talking about this quote describing firing an AR-15, and thought more people would recognize it (the guy has since apologized):
"The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
From this article:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/firing-ar-15-horrifying-dangerous-loud-article-1.2673201
As for the fart rape, it doesn't matter whether 'fart rape' was a joke or not. It represents the issue that people who have been raped have gone through an extremely traumatic experience, and it diminishes their trauma to say that anything else is rape. It doesn't matter if it is farting, spreading your legs on a train, looking at a person (no matter how creepily, it still isn't rape), or even shouting vulgar obscenities at a woman as she passes by. The fact is, rape is rape, and don't water down the meaning.
In short, everyone has difficult things. Some things are definitely more difficult than others. Don't diminish more difficult things by calling some less difficult things the same thing.
lesbianhamlet
A violent assault can absolutely cause PTSD. People who are parodying PTSD by either misusing it or trying to mock those women suck.
ATLandNerdy
"Temporary form of PTSD"??? Startled is the word you are looking for, PTSD is by its nature cannot be temporary.
thecactusfucker
I'm glad that we have people like @OP to divine exactly what every person in the world is REALLY experiencing.
spiderqueendemon
There's post-traumatic stress, which is temporary, and post-traumatic stress disorder, where something that should heal up doesn't.
spiderqueendemon
Anyone going through bad stuff can experience either. Soldiers, nurses, parents, little bitty kids, tax accountants, anyone.
MellieMckinna24
One batch, Two Batch...
jqdao3
People experience ptsd symptoms. It's the jittery paranoid feeling that puts you on high alert. It's when they don't go away you have PTSD.
ughh
The amt of people who actually have these issues vastly outnumbers those who fake it. We just like focusing on the tiny percentage who 1/2
imyourrealdad
If you have PTSD, anxiety, OCD and don't have an official medical diagnosis, fuck you.
ITalkAboutGoats
Takes time to be diagnosed, bro.
hippityhoppitywomenareproperty
Where is this from?
SilverSound
Daredevil season 2. It's on Netflix.
Felfurion
This is a really good series and this scene in particular was very thoughtful.
Ilikefluffythings
Yay thanks. He's a great actor!
dennydorko
WTF is "fart rape"?
ecodude
A joke someone made, and imgur and Reddit treated it as an actual story and ran with it and think it's an actual thing people care about.
JarkorTheBurninator
I find this argument annoying. I went through depression, anxiety and near suicide. I didn't tell my friends BECAUSE I thought they'd be...
JarkorTheBurninator
conscious about making humour about those situations or using those words. If someone is intentionally insulting my situation,it's different
JarkorTheBurninator
But using 'this is depressing', 'this makes me wanna kill myself' are parts of language I don't want to die or have people feel bad about.
Orangeracecar
I don't think fart rape is a real thing
elliedoodles
This isn't a dick measuring contest, @OP. PTSD from combat isn't any more legitimate than any other kind of PTSD. Stop shaming people for it
elliedoodles
Also, you actually think there's a "fart rape" crowd? Seriously?
Chouilste
This guy completely nailed that role. The dialogues with "Red" were so fucking great.
JJMJester
Word, think their mistake was not having the whole season be just that. All the ninja shit got boring to me.
thisisfutureyou
The only good thing about that season was watching red demolish an entire building full of bikers floor by floor in one take....and this obv
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
hey you shut your mouth do you know how many people have been diagnosed with brain disorders like ptsd for shooting a gun at a range
therealtybo
Well said my friend
youmoron
im going to joke about whatever i want to joke about. If you get offended, then that is your problem.
Lojay
Don't trust him. He'll screw your wife then try to kill you, come back as a zombie and try to screw your wife again. Fur realz yo.
copingcabana
I'd like to see him try to fuck Lucille. ;)
Lojay
Lucille fucks, she doesnt get fucked
JustPornStuffs
So disparaging one group to defend another? Personal vendetta much? lol
LordHosk
This scene pissed me off tremendously. It reinforced the narrative that 1. Veteran = PTSD and 2. that PTSD = Combat.
Curiousone545
No no, wait. Think about it from his perspective. He wasn't using PTSD as an excuse. He was avenging his family, taking down "bad" guys1
Curiousone545
2)He was using the events of his past to get vengeance. He admits he's broken, but he won't use PTSD as an excuse for his murders.
baps
It was made very, very clear throughout the season that Frank's PTSD came from witnessing his family's deaths, not from combat. 1/2
baps
He straight up SAID THAT at one point to Daredevil's face. So... unless by "reinforced" you mean "refuted," no.
ThomasMontgomeryHaverford
Probably unpopular opinion puffin: if the struggle is legitimate, some twad claiming PTSD doesn't diminish it. Unless, the "struggle" is 1/
ThomasMontgomeryHaverford
also just about attention. 2/
Kiore
And a lack of 'fakers' won't stop the assholes finding another reason to dismiss the legitimate cases.
ThomasMontgomeryHaverford
Personally, I don't think I've ever heard of a legitimate case being dismissed (except maybe post-WWI when it was labeled "shell-shock")
Kiore
Not so much for military, but for non-military (domestic abuse, childhood abuse, accidents, etc) it def gets doubted, especially women.
ThomasMontgomeryHaverford
That seems reasonable (in the sense of "plausible"), but this sort of thing (the OP) would seem to worsen that,making PTSD soldier-territory
Kiore
Oh yah, I'm not supporting the OP's post, which is addressing a legitimately satirical 'claim' and a prime example of unhelpful douchery.
KarlaAnne
Wait. Is that Shane?!
Sirrussel5
Same actor, but it's the Punisher, Frank Castle. Scene is from the Netflix original series, "DareDevil". This actor nailed the part so well.
tomhailmahon
Yep. He played an excellent Frank Castle.
spartan8917
He was brutal.
SgtEziosRequiem
Got the slightest of southern accents from this Francis Castiglione.
PetaurusBreviceps
I was wondering the same thing but the pictures were too dark for me to be sure
darthhiggy
one of the most powerful scenes for me this season
notyourbuddyguy
Do you have PTSD from your war against all these straw men?
owmur
Savage.
hotterpop
Mega clever, bro. +1
Mimsey
@OP specifically listed two concrete examples that we know are true. They're obviously not strawmen...
EdgarAllenPoo
Except the fart rape thing was a parody initially. Reddit/imgur ran wild with it though.
Fenriswaffles
Poe's law, yo
Mimsey
It's roughly analogous to "manspreading" and "stare rape", so it does sum up the triviality of modern feminism nicely.
CommanderCaribou
One batch, Two Batch...
TacosLocosForever
Just because soldiers get ptsd doesn't mean only soldiers get ptsd... Not saying that some people don't fake it though...
BloodyCrowOfCainhurst
When I went through evaluation for depression I got diagnosed with PTSD form growing up in a shit environment. I got discharged cause of it.
BloodyCrowOfCainhurst
Felt like the biggest piece of shit cause my buddies were getting ready to deploy and I was staying behind...we lost a guy too. Feels shity
Dawnstempest
Not your fault, you didn't pull the trigger, and you weren't the candy-ass desk jockey who signed off on your discharge papers.
ITalkAboutGoats
That 'candy-ass desk jockey' could have saved the lives of his unit, if he wasn't capable of performing under fire.
BloodyCrowOfCainhurst
I'm sure I was fine. Army was at 120℅ strength....seemed fishy
ecodude
It's almost as if it's the "candy assed desk jockey" has a job to do, which involves making sure soldiers are fit to deploy.
Wabbadabba
You got discharged? I work with a guy diagnosed and he just is medicated and regular therapy
BloodyCrowOfCainhurst
Yeah, army was at 120℅ strength at the time and you couldn't even enlist in my mos and that was Infantry
Wabbadabba
Jeeze. I'm sorry man.
lyricallove
Thank you. Plenty of people experience it. My wife included from an abusive childhood.
DaddyWolf
Did anyone say that only soldiers get PTSD?
Notareptilian
Are we sure somebody didn't just make up fart rape as a parody to poke fun at feminists?
HermanManly
I think the fact that we can't be sure and we think there is an actual chance that it's not a joke really shows what we think of those peopl
JohnnyTitelips
I mean that's literally what thigh gaps, bikini bridges, free bleeding, and a few other things started as.
irritabletom
Yeah, I was gonna say, my girlfriend will laugh for hours if I float an air biscuit.
cantbeasadmuffin
I just don't say anything and go about my business since its natural instead of laughing at him. Unless on me then I'll laugh. And maybe run
noxness
"float an air biscuit" +1
ChuckZombie
That's exactly what it was. Which shows you how dumb these guys are when they believe their own parodies.
Rikoshi
Poe's Law in action.
sorosfieldops
4chan has fallen so far.
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jinky74
I've dealt with actual misogyny. This makes me sooooo sad. Like years of fighting to be taken seriously were wasted.
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jinky74
I didn't do it! In fact I just upvoted. Forgot to originally.
MainDeflectorDish
Considering other articles on that site include "Are Chimps smarter than Feminist?" (sic), pretty sure this is satire or made up bullshit.
avidatheist
Except it wasn't. Look up Ashleigh Ingle.
AuntSharron
You believe in free bleeding being a real thing too?
avidatheist
10/10 mental gymnastics there.
Kiore
In a lot of cases it's not even stupidity, it's just desperation to have any 'justification' to be dicks.
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MainDeflectorDish
Considering other articles on that site include "Are Chimps smarter than Feminist?" (sic), pretty sure this is satire or made up bullshit.
Kiore
Thanks man, that looks like a legit and totally credible source.
MessageMeYourDickPicks
fart rape?
Owlhead326
Not a problem with my wife
CorneliusCornwall
Its that thing wear you eat a bunch of spicy food then invite everyone to a elevator party and let your butt sing a jonty tune of death
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MainDeflectorDish
Considering other articles on that site include "Are Chimps smarter than Feminist?" (sic), pretty sure this is satire or made up bullshit.
ABillionDucks
Umm, do you actually want pics or is it just a prank, bro?
MessageMeYourDickPicks
pics please
BernieDog
Wow
SpikeThruTheStreetRoof
giggity
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FeIineDisrespectFromBehind
I if i could fart on command i'd totally fart rape everyone daily.
Delta93
What... The fuck?!
Rainman1344
Blow it out your ass
Stadix
flippywizgig
I'm pretty sure this is a joke.
DysgraphicProgrammer
I tried to fact check the quote. it's probably fake: http://1157kia.tumblr.com/post/103131647470/feminism-a-few-thoughts
SweetNarNar
God damn people!
WhatMyHeartHeld
Caffynated
Normally I would call BS, but "manspreading" was a real thing, so I'm inclined to believe you.
MadJackMcJack
SaltheartFoamfollower
If this isn't a joke
DrKriegersClone
I'd be inclined to think that's a parody, but the affiliation cited is the grad student union for my alma mater - they are quite radical. 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ and apparently the person is a Black Bloc anarchist organizer. So while I wouldn't necessarily believe it, I wouldn't discount it either.
App1eJu1ce
Its interesting how these people dont realise that this is basically defamation/character assassination, which seems a lot worse than farts.
vanderluft
Idsertian
I had a similar reaction.
MessageMeYourDickPicks
god. Fucking, DAMN IT
thiswittyenoughforye
I say free Taco Bell for her neighbors
AssholeTown
That...can't be real...can it? Damn it, it's real isn't it?
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
It's not. It was made up to start with. anyone that buys into it is fucking stupid and that includes thinking this is a real movement.
AssholeTown
You must be fun at parties...
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I am a joy at parties. This isn't a party though... but I did bring balloons
..... Fuck
ialwaysplaydove
Ok but he did have ptsd though. It's exactly what he described. It wasn't ptsd from the military, it was caused by the murder of his family
NipplesOfTheNorth
maybe that was the point? even though he was completely going through it he never wanted to admit it. The same way lots of veterans hide it.
hereforthensfwreddits
There's a difference between using PTSD as an excuse and dealing with it on your own terms. He didn't want to insult the ones dealing.
Mattto
I thought you were referring to the temporary PTSD guy for a second...
Moose79
I like how you know your Punisher trivia +1
DVSBSTrD
I think its more to do with the fact they're actually trying to fight it while he embraced it.
AuntSharron
I nearly killed myself and my best friend in a severe black ice rollover. You can kiss my flabby white ass if you think that doesn't count.
AuntSharron
Looks like I got hit by the "It doesn't effect me so it's not real" crew. diaf, kids. diaff.
Timeandrelativedimensionsinspaghetti
Yeah, they even said he is constantly reliving the experience. It's basically PTSD 24/7/365 with no "good days"
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
great now i have to watch it AGAIN
schiff
What show?
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
Daredevil. Netflix original.
DarkZalgo
Fun fact thats maybe not so fun. You can actually get minor ptsd from just about any relatively traumatizing event.
TrijezniMujo
Anytihng traumatizing can cause ptsd. But... somebody farting on a train isn't really traumatizing.
ElectronicArtsOfficial
Another fun fact, the quote in the image description is from a man who lied multiple times and equated gun owners with misogynists.
ElectronicArtsOfficial
Also I recall some suggestions from professionals in the field that there's strong correlations between head trauma and PTSD.
ElectronicArtsOfficial
Can't be arsed to go find the source of that, though, so grain of salt and all that.
DarkZalgo
I don't know about that, but I do know there is a very strong correlation with ptsd and nightmares. To the point where it may not even
DarkZalgo
Be considered ptsd without recurring nightmares
spookyu
I can understand the sentiment though. I some messed up stuff as a medic while deployed, I don't have PTSD, but even if I did 1/2
spookyu
there'd be hesitancy to use it as a defense. PTSD isn't a on/off switch, some people have it worse than others.
ITalkAboutGoats
Actually, it definitely can come and go throughout your lifetime, unless that isn't what you meant.
SDSmither
Everyone has different triggers for it definitely.
ITalkAboutGoats
Yes, sorry, I mean the symptoms of it can come and go. My dad is 100% service connected with PTSD, but sometimes it seems like he isn't.
spookyu
No I mean severity of the condition. This isn't to devalue anyone's experiences....but some traumas are worse than others.
SomePeopleSayThatCucumbersTasteBetterPickled
Yeah, but his lawyers didn't know or care about that; it was just a tactic to them. That's what he was objecting to.
StanJeff
Exactly, he was objecting to the lawyer using PTSD as an excuse for his murders.
Andalite
Yeah but he didn't do what he did because of his PTSD which is what the defense wanted him to say. Using that as a defense would paint PTSD
Andalite
Sufferers as potential time bombs.
ialwaysplaydove
I was disappointed that he diminished the events that took place. He was precisely suffering from ptsd and described it in detail
Protean2648
He didn't want soldiers to be compared to what he has become, by sharing labels with them.
Pengarr
That's sort of what happens, though, to a lot of people. Not a lot of people necessarily have insight into the fact they have a problem.
Monkofthepast
Heh, or you get the real bright bulbs like me. Have it, but most days I won't even admit it to myself.
MassiveMaoMao
Yeah but Castle isn't the type of man to admit he has a problem...what with the gratuitous murdering and such.
NiceCatchBlancoNinoTooBadYourAssGotSacked
He named his favorite rifle "Coping Mechanism".
TrijezniMujo
Clever, I named mine "Helena" (she who brings victory), cause it has yet to fail me.
SufferinSappho
That's the point though. Frank Castle has had horrific trauma and can't actually deal with it. (Mass murder isn't 'dealing with it')
ShaZam1269
Well he's dealing with it in his own way. Who are you to say mss murder isn't therapeutic?
Aldryic
RELEASE THE ARMCHAIR PSYCHOLOGISTS
johnson21
Do we keep them in cages? :O
Aldryic
We really should -_-
IMadeThisOnlyForDestinyCodeBegging
No we keep them in armchairs.
ButtholeAnxiety
It makes sense though, most people don't readily accept that diagnosis. He was thinking like a soldier, not like a grieving husband.
samsonguy920
Soldiers are reluctant to be diagnosed with it. That is one of the factors that work against treating it.
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Yeah, they also mentioned, "It'd greatly help with your defense." which probably helped get this reaction from him about it.
Ihmhi
haven't seen this yet, so I'll guess that he says something like "The only thing I need for defense is my 1911. When do I get it back?"
icameinlikeafeckingball
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icameinlikeafeckingball
Actually, he ends up blowing his defence to meet Wilson Fisk in jail, who sets him free so he can go back to being a vigilante.
RomanAbbasid
No, thankfully, he does not. His arc was by far the best part of Daredevil Season 2 so watch it soon
Tikityler
*The Punisher season 1
SayIAmYou
In the earlier episode, that line 'I was tired, you ever been *tired*, Red?' Sounded like an admission of some existing P-T symptoms
MrtheOffender
Yep. there's sleepy and then there is Tired. in your bones tired, 3 hours in a hammock a beer then 8 hours in a bed and still Tired, tired >
MrtheOffender
> i think there is definitely something more to that implication
TheAfroClam
Or maybe he was tired?
SayIAmYou
The emphasis, context and the fact that the question was worth asking suggests he probably didn't just mean 'needing a nap'
TheAfroClam
I dunno. People can get pretty cranky when they are tired
imjakefromstatefarm
Aw punisher just needed a wittle nappy-poo to make things all better.
Cal74
More like he needed a lot of bullets in the skulls of the Irish mob to make things all better.
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AusmosisJones
Not at all.. lol maybe as deep as a shower..
SayIAmYou
He certainly ain't talking about being up past his bedtime
spookyu
What show is this?
dru9087
Daredevil see it on netflix.
rohittee1
Daredevil
spookyu
Thanks, I've been meaning to watch it.
rohittee1
They are also planning to do other shows Luke cage being another one. The eventual plan is to bring them all together in a single show.
Frostkyte
It's pretty fantastic.
DireSickFish
Do yourself a favor and watch Jessica Jonas too if you haven't yet.
Renovin
I'd say watch DD first. JJ isn't for everyone and it might turn them off DD.
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
Most adult title Marvel has put out yet. Some dark, DARK stuff on that show.
candle340
David Tennant makes an awesome villain.
010101100101
FYI this particular scene is from season 2. You should totally watch both seasons, but Punisher appears in season 2.
AmiEvilYet
Season 1 was great throughout, season 2 started strong but the last 3-ish episodes were not spectacular (but still good).
Curiousone545
HE does a fuckin AMAZING job as The Punisher. Fuckin phenomenal. IMO, you can even skip season 1, and just watch 2. It's SO GOOD.
battery1979
Hoping that Netflix green lights a Punisher series.
DireSickFish
He was having ptsd but he didn't want his negative actions to cast a shadow on others going through it. PTSD din't "make" him a cereal killr
ElectronicArtsOfficial
Serial
DireSickFish
Then what's he going to eat for breakfast?
ElectronicArtsOfficial
Two batches of fresh baked cookies?
AuntSharron
Whisky and old shell casings in a bowl with a spoon. Sometimes gravel if he's feeling particularly famished.