Feb 24, 2021 2:23 PM
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lpooptoomuch
The day the earth stood still
RazTheGiant
Ah yes, the pizza cutter, all edge and no point
DanJonesKing
"You can learn a lot from a race by looking at how they treat their weakest." Dude have you seen a NatGeo video? Preachy ass bullshit.
ace5762
The 'life of your dreams' doesn't seem quite that inviting if you have to spend your time living as a homeless guy.
ryry1237
That was probably a trick question given.
Rogermooreseyebrow
So, the day the earth stood still ?♂️
JanglesPrime
Kbantar
Idiotic, anthropocentric to a cringy level, and just plain incoherent flawed "point".
BlindGardener
It's a classic horror story, that's all. The artist uses a general horror motif.
LAMovieDesign
What’s with all the dead cops?
TheFashionGuy1
Sooo. Just exterminate the ones you don't like? Where have I heard that before?
Rhacman
Auditor: This is just a sample of the fucked up shit space faring races can and regularly do to each other. 1/2
Soon as you step in that ring, the gloves come off. Make sure you're ready cause we play for keeps.
Bossco20
I remember the alternate ending where the hobo and cops were just dicks tricking people into killing themselves.
SomebodyThatIsntMe
?noredirect
Someshithead241
Surely, if he takes the selfish option, then it just proves the point he was making. That humanity is toxic and selfish, he is killing
A species to save himself and give himself more power, the exact reason why we are so toxic. Just seems backwards to reward him for that
And not for the correct choice, the selfless choice that shows the species still has hope. Its all backwards and nonsensical.
brainfreez3
Always thought this comic was written by someone who doesn't understand the world.
ODSTsRule
Exactly
HearingMagenta
Thats a shitty audi process. Such a low sample size.
varskesapkepas
So... Pretentious...
TI99Kitty
It's an entertaining story, even if the auditor is kind of shit at his job. But maybe that's the point, that no one is infallable. idk
sagitarrulus
so just kill all those deemed unworthy not really uplifting my spirits here
JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
This comic tries to make the aliens look ultra wise. If this is their civilization, they are genocidal psychotic fucks. Like, 40k level.
PlayerBhatin
or just 1 intergalactic super troll
Christylbk
They are also sending failed species to audit other failed systems, so not surprising they would audit like this.
TacTheScribbler
Usually when this crosses the FP, folks talk about how awesome it is. Other times, as now, they are critical. Not sure why I needed to say >
this, other than that I appreciate being exposed to varied points of view.
randomyOCE
It reads worse with each re-read, because while the first question it prompts is interesting, every question after that undercuts the point.
So basically it's a breakdown of people seeing it for the first time vs people tired of it, plus whatever first comments setting the tone.
revelator
Cha0sForever
Old man looks like he's having a revelation there
thefreak013
SexyBiologist
some girls have balls tho
danielsan1977
Then they can pee.
rabbitron
1) Former vice president Humphrey spoke about the treatment of the weakest members of society as a reflection of a government:
2) “The moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children..."
3) "...those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped.”
4) source: https://www.columbian.com/news/2016/nov/11/letter-quote-from-humphrey-not-gandhi/
TastyBrainMeats
He's still a big name in his home state, isn't he? Dude served many years as a Senator after his VPship.
symbholic
That is a really unreliable screening process...
makeSX
It doesnt say if its only in one place and time tho..
nclu
This comic is much better when you remove the last six panels
ENCHANTMEN
Yeah this alien civilization seems pretty fucking arrogant and cruel...
jiynxed
It also feels a lot like the way mormons see the afterlife
Ryvienna
As someone who is no longer a Mormon, I agree with this.
PrinnyGod08
As a Mormon, I’m also curious to what you mean by this.
joefredricks20101
I'm very curious what you mean by this
EntariAdun
Assuming one auditor makes one trip and only stays in one place, it totally is. Doesn't have to be though, if you increase the sample size.
TielKiri
But assuming he’s being truthful, which seems to be implied in the end, he can only perform the test once. The deal means either everyone-
lives or everyone dies, not “everyone lives until the next test in a week, at which point they risk omnicide, again”
TheSecondPiewackit
"Assuming he's being truthful"
Camelspotting
Is it? Seems like he got a pretty good look at how the weakest are treated.
Really? One experience in one particular city in one particular civilization is all he needs to judge every human in every society? Really??
Yep, humans really aren't that different.
I am going to have to ask you to leave your hometown when the pandemic's over, mac. There are a whole lot of good people in the world.
But there aren't in my hometown? How does that make sense?
linguistfromhell
Not going to even credit the creator, @midnightradiocomics ? Check their profile - they have a ton more on the site.
SexGolem
Why credit him? It's just "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
Because they're the folks who wrote/drew the comic?
After stealing an idea and not giving any credit themselves.
So? Even TDTESS is a riff off of another story. There are only so many stories that can be told, people just add their own flavor.
So it's okay to plagiarize. ?
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Humans are evil by nature, we need to do our best to be good in our life but it's much easier to be evil.
Not true, from my experience of playing dnd when I choose a evil character. They always start doing good things.
evilspock
It's not that we're evil. We're just animals. It's when we rise above that animal nature that we start to shine.
emptyother
Being evil is harder than it looks.. I can't even be evil in a singleplayer game without feeling bad.
popebadass
That’s why I make my son play an evil walkthrough so we can see different endings.
tantallous
That's why you will never be rich.
Aeolys
Who do you kill in the abandoned shack in the swamps of Hjaalmarch?
AvadonyaTheSilverGrapefruit
The one that disrespect us, if they act like that when close to death, how do they treat other people when safe.
taralanth
This so much. So many failed renagade mass effect runs lol
I don’t believe that for a second. No one is all good or all evil. Evil is louder, more noticeable. It’s weakness personified. 1/
If you're rich, either you're being evil or your recent ancestors were.
CyborggMonkey
So, possibly semantics but also possibly not... I believe everyone is selfish. That doesn't mean good or bad, it means we do what we do 1/
Because we want to or have some sense of "needing" to do something. There's a whole spectrum of selfishness that everyone falls into imo 2/
No one is truly selfless.
And that's ok
We’re fascinated by evil and seek it out, but the vast majority of us don’t want to be evil. Simple kindness is often overlooked 2/
And almost all of us in our daily lives commit acts of simple kindness much more than acts of evil. 3/
fuckbeans
We seek out the evil to expose them, not to solidify them. We are inherently a social species and as such try to purge the worst so to say.
I feel we seek out evil in an effort to quell its expansion. We dont WANT evil to be, but there it is, and we abhor it.
Evil can be as simple as throwing a empty can of soda in the streets instead of being Good and keep it with you untill you see a trashcan.
I think that’s a radical misrepresentation of evil.
ElynaerDeiros
When good is done it sends waves, but when evil is done it sends storms.
thudbutts
this seemed so edgy when I was 13 and now it makes me cringe
It's definitely pretty edgy, but personally I like the message, even if it's a bit cliché.
PaintYourWagon
If a homeless guy tells you to shoot yourself in the head or he will blow up the earth (or something) to do it?
The characters explicitly mention the message. It's about how we seem beyond redemption, yet are capable of selflessness. Cliché, but nice.
MindOfMobius
a demonstrably magic homeless man
DaveTheScientist
If a god does it, and you've seen his powers, you've gotta at least consider it.
Oh consider it, sure. Never said you shouldnt consider it at least! Maybe even psyche him out by fake pulling the trigger a few times too.
Primary1
He could disintegrate a gun and cause people be mind controlled, you think you'd fool him?
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
As an auditor (who also writes processes for audits) that guy is a shit auditor
pseudopseudonym
Yeah I don't see any boilerplate about his audit responsibilities and the human species' responsibilities anywhere.
Actually I strongly suspect he's not even submitting any kind of written report at all.
[deleted]
In Contamination Control when enforcing anti-microbial cleaning procedures? Yes.
English isn't his first language
Bonsaipanda
I so want to upvote you but it's just so fitting
DoAllOfTheDrugs
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bax498
Maybe he's a really good auditor and you aren't. Tbf he has done a lot of audits and doesn't seem to have been promoted. Can't be that good.
DrewK98
After the gunshot he calls Earth a "condemned planet". This test happens after they've already done the statistical analysis. 1/x
This is more like the story of Sodom and "one righteous man". Different metric. 2/2
I wont come across as stand-off-ish as Foxcross, if indeed that was their intention, but I would love to hear your opinion.
i tossed it into the response to Foxcross if you want to take a look. tough to do in 140 chars lol (and I failed at that)
noneofyournuts
All I do as an auditor is review ledgers
asianmilkspray
Well his definition of auditor probably is off. Really he is like the judge, jury and executioner.
Ikingg
Why do you think he audit the shit ?
OmnipotentBeing
PictureArchiver
You’re just jealous because you’re not a god!
well... yeah.. but that's beside the point
Foxcross
Explain?
mondeca
He didn't even look at our finances!
shortyjjp
Auditing is observation and providing corrections/improvements. This is more arbitration.
Ulthirm
Auditing is designed to be failed, you want to identify what it did best at and what it did worst at to make it better.
ThatWeirdoOverThere
While not an auditor, I would say that condemning all humans over a few seems wild. He didn't see any homeless shelters and charities?
RunsWithScizrs
I'm not saying you should kill off all humans, but there are far more shitty humans than homeless shelters and charities on this planet.
CAAFlo
Seems more like it was a test for our main character than humanity.
Simple answer: he's an "arbiter" not an auditor. Long answer: he goes to one city as and probes one life as a gauge of an entire planet(1/X)
Edit: should have said "longer answer" as opposed to "long" which implies my response was exhaustive.
Did he go to Finland as that person? No. Hell, did he even go to Utah? No. He provided a half-assed cursory audit of an issue and made (2/X)
a decision on the health of everyone's implementation of a process based on a single team, in a single department, in a single branch (3/X)
of a single company, to decide that the industry wasn't performing correctly. There's a reason he took the easy way out when it was his turn
uBooLian
"I've done this for thousands of years." This imprecisely defines his audit of Earth took thousands of years. So, you are wrong. Why else?
No. His complete statement defines him as an auditor amongst all civilizations for 1000s of years, also as evidenced by his previous (1/x)
naturehike
The purpose of auditing is to identify areas of strength or improvement. He offered none of this.
ronnyhugo
Then again, if you measure something that metric becomes useless as a metric.
TELunus
You're thinking of Goodhart's law, but that's not quite it. It's "once a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
HedonistBeard
That's one type of auditing. There's also the audit of accounts/finances/ethics/code/whatever where you're just checking for flaws.
nullbr
They are auditing for themselves, the civilization doesnt get the feedback, there 3 outcomes, you pass, are given more time, or destroyed.
Denim777
technically, the comic said "dealt with"... could just mean an exile on a galactic scale... like a cloak/veil of solitude that filters life
South Park already did it with the galatic federation and Baby Fark Mcgeezax
IsometricExerciseCareToJoinMe
Yeah, I'd like to know as well
tossed a response as a reply on Foxcross's question
A nice response as well.
lpooptoomuch
The day the earth stood still
RazTheGiant
Ah yes, the pizza cutter, all edge and no point
DanJonesKing
"You can learn a lot from a race by looking at how they treat their weakest." Dude have you seen a NatGeo video? Preachy ass bullshit.
ace5762
The 'life of your dreams' doesn't seem quite that inviting if you have to spend your time living as a homeless guy.
ryry1237
That was probably a trick question given.
Rogermooreseyebrow
So, the day the earth stood still ?♂️
JanglesPrime
Kbantar
Idiotic, anthropocentric to a cringy level, and just plain incoherent flawed "point".
BlindGardener
It's a classic horror story, that's all. The artist uses a general horror motif.
LAMovieDesign
What’s with all the dead cops?
TheFashionGuy1
Sooo. Just exterminate the ones you don't like? Where have I heard that before?
Rhacman
Auditor: This is just a sample of the fucked up shit space faring races can and regularly do to each other. 1/2
Rhacman
Soon as you step in that ring, the gloves come off. Make sure you're ready cause we play for keeps.
Bossco20
I remember the alternate ending where the hobo and cops were just dicks tricking people into killing themselves.
SomebodyThatIsntMe
Someshithead241
Surely, if he takes the selfish option, then it just proves the point he was making. That humanity is toxic and selfish, he is killing
Someshithead241
A species to save himself and give himself more power, the exact reason why we are so toxic. Just seems backwards to reward him for that
Someshithead241
And not for the correct choice, the selfless choice that shows the species still has hope. Its all backwards and nonsensical.
brainfreez3
Always thought this comic was written by someone who doesn't understand the world.
ODSTsRule
Exactly
HearingMagenta
Thats a shitty audi process. Such a low sample size.
varskesapkepas
So... Pretentious...
TI99Kitty
It's an entertaining story, even if the auditor is kind of shit at his job. But maybe that's the point, that no one is infallable. idk
sagitarrulus
so just kill all those deemed unworthy not really uplifting my spirits here
JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
This comic tries to make the aliens look ultra wise. If this is their civilization, they are
genocidal psychotic fucks. Like, 40k level.
PlayerBhatin
or just 1 intergalactic super troll
Christylbk
They are also sending failed species to audit other failed systems, so not surprising they would audit like this.
TacTheScribbler
Usually when this crosses the FP, folks talk about how awesome it is. Other times, as now, they are critical. Not sure why I needed to say >
TacTheScribbler
this, other than that I appreciate being exposed to varied points of view.
randomyOCE
It reads worse with each re-read, because while the first question it prompts is interesting, every question after that undercuts the point.
randomyOCE
So basically it's a breakdown of people seeing it for the first time vs people tired of it, plus whatever first comments setting the tone.
revelator
Cha0sForever
Old man looks like he's having a revelation there
thefreak013
SexyBiologist
some girls have balls tho
danielsan1977
Then they can pee.
rabbitron
1) Former vice president Humphrey spoke about the treatment of the weakest members of society as a reflection of a government:
rabbitron
2) “The moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children..."
rabbitron
3) "...those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped.”
rabbitron
4) source: https://www.columbian.com/news/2016/nov/11/letter-quote-from-humphrey-not-gandhi/
TastyBrainMeats
He's still a big name in his home state, isn't he? Dude served many years as a Senator after his VPship.
symbholic
That is a really unreliable screening process...
makeSX
It doesnt say if its only in one place and time tho..
nclu
This comic is much better when you remove the last six panels
ENCHANTMEN
Yeah this alien civilization seems pretty fucking arrogant and cruel...
jiynxed
It also feels a lot like the way mormons see the afterlife
Ryvienna
As someone who is no longer a Mormon, I agree with this.
PrinnyGod08
As a Mormon, I’m also curious to what you mean by this.
joefredricks20101
I'm very curious what you mean by this
EntariAdun
Assuming one auditor makes one trip and only stays in one place, it totally is. Doesn't have to be though, if you increase the sample size.
TielKiri
But assuming he’s being truthful, which seems to be implied in the end, he can only perform the test once. The deal means either everyone-
TielKiri
lives or everyone dies, not “everyone lives until the next test in a week, at which point they risk omnicide, again”
TheSecondPiewackit
"Assuming he's being truthful"
Camelspotting
Is it? Seems like he got a pretty good look at how the weakest are treated.
TastyBrainMeats
Really? One experience in one particular city in one particular civilization is all he needs to judge every human in every society? Really??
Camelspotting
Yep, humans really aren't that different.
TastyBrainMeats
I am going to have to ask you to leave your hometown when the pandemic's over, mac. There are a whole lot of good people in the world.
Camelspotting
But there aren't in my hometown? How does that make sense?
linguistfromhell
Not going to even credit the creator, @midnightradiocomics ? Check their profile - they have a ton more on the site.
SexGolem
Why credit him? It's just "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
linguistfromhell
Because they're the folks who wrote/drew the comic?
SexGolem
After stealing an idea and not giving any credit themselves.
linguistfromhell
So? Even TDTESS is a riff off of another story. There are only so many stories that can be told, people just add their own flavor.
SexGolem
So it's okay to plagiarize. ?
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Humans are evil by nature, we need to do our best to be good in our life but it's much easier to be evil.
Christylbk
Not true, from my experience of playing dnd when I choose a evil character. They always start doing good things.
evilspock
It's not that we're evil. We're just animals. It's when we rise above that animal nature that we start to shine.
JanglesPrime
emptyother
Being evil is harder than it looks.. I can't even be evil in a singleplayer game without feeling bad.
popebadass
That’s why I make my son play an evil walkthrough so we can see different endings.
tantallous
BlindGardener
That's why you will never be rich.
Aeolys
Who do you kill in the abandoned shack in the swamps of Hjaalmarch?
AvadonyaTheSilverGrapefruit
The one that disrespect us, if they act like that when close to death, how do they treat other people when safe.
taralanth
This so much. So many failed renagade mass effect runs lol
popebadass
I don’t believe that for a second. No one is all good or all evil. Evil is louder, more noticeable. It’s weakness personified. 1/
BlindGardener
If you're rich, either you're being evil or your recent ancestors were.
CyborggMonkey
So, possibly semantics but also possibly not... I believe everyone is selfish. That doesn't mean good or bad, it means we do what we do 1/
CyborggMonkey
Because we want to or have some sense of "needing" to do something. There's a whole spectrum of selfishness that everyone falls into imo 2/
CyborggMonkey
No one is truly selfless.
CyborggMonkey
And that's ok
popebadass
We’re fascinated by evil and seek it out, but the vast majority of us don’t want to be evil. Simple kindness is often overlooked 2/
popebadass
And almost all of us in our daily lives commit acts of simple kindness much more than acts of evil. 3/
fuckbeans
We seek out the evil to expose them, not to solidify them. We are inherently a social species and as such try to purge the worst so to say.
fuckbeans
I feel we seek out evil in an effort to quell its expansion. We dont WANT evil to be, but there it is, and we abhor it.
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Evil can be as simple as throwing a empty can of soda in the streets instead of being Good and keep it with you untill you see a trashcan.
popebadass
I think that’s a radical misrepresentation of evil.
ElynaerDeiros
When good is done it sends waves, but when evil is done it sends storms.
thudbutts
this seemed so edgy when I was 13 and now it makes me cringe
EntariAdun
It's definitely pretty edgy, but personally I like the message, even if it's a bit cliché.
PaintYourWagon
If a homeless guy tells you to shoot yourself in the head or he will blow up the earth (or something) to do it?
EntariAdun
The characters explicitly mention the message. It's about how we seem beyond redemption, yet are capable of selflessness. Cliché, but nice.
MindOfMobius
a demonstrably magic homeless man
DaveTheScientist
If a god does it, and you've seen his powers, you've gotta at least consider it.
PaintYourWagon
Oh consider it, sure. Never said you shouldnt consider it at least! Maybe even psyche him out by fake pulling the trigger a few times too.
Primary1
He could disintegrate a gun and cause people be mind controlled, you think you'd fool him?
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
As an auditor (who also writes processes for audits) that guy is a shit auditor
pseudopseudonym
Yeah I don't see any boilerplate about his audit responsibilities and the human species' responsibilities anywhere.
pseudopseudonym
Actually I strongly suspect he's not even submitting any kind of written report at all.
[deleted]
[deleted]
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
In Contamination Control when enforcing anti-microbial cleaning procedures? Yes.
SomebodyThatIsntMe
English isn't his first language
Bonsaipanda
I so want to upvote you but it's just so fitting
DoAllOfTheDrugs
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bax498
Maybe he's a really good auditor and you aren't. Tbf he has done a lot of audits and doesn't seem to have been promoted. Can't be that good.
DrewK98
After the gunshot he calls Earth a "condemned planet". This test happens after they've already done the statistical analysis. 1/x
DrewK98
This is more like the story of Sodom and "one righteous man". Different metric. 2/2
fuckbeans
I wont come across as stand-off-ish as Foxcross, if indeed that was their intention, but I would love to hear your opinion.
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
i tossed it into the response to Foxcross if you want to take a look. tough to do in 140 chars lol (and I failed at that)
noneofyournuts
All I do as an auditor is review ledgers
asianmilkspray
Well his definition of auditor probably is off. Really he is like the judge, jury and executioner.
Ikingg
Why do you think he audit the shit ?
OmnipotentBeing
PictureArchiver
You’re just jealous because you’re not a god!
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
well... yeah.. but that's beside the point
Foxcross
Explain?
mondeca
He didn't even look at our finances!
shortyjjp
Auditing is observation and providing corrections/improvements. This is more arbitration.
Ulthirm
Auditing is designed to be failed, you want to identify what it did best at and what it did worst at to make it better.
ThatWeirdoOverThere
While not an auditor, I would say that condemning all humans over a few seems wild. He didn't see any homeless shelters and charities?
RunsWithScizrs
I'm not saying you should kill off all humans, but there are far more shitty humans than homeless shelters and charities on this planet.
CAAFlo
Seems more like it was a test for our main character than humanity.
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
Simple answer: he's an "arbiter" not an auditor. Long answer: he goes to one city as and probes one life as a gauge of an entire planet(1/X)
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
Edit: should have said "longer answer" as opposed to "long" which implies my response was exhaustive.
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
Did he go to Finland as that person? No. Hell, did he even go to Utah? No. He provided a half-assed cursory audit of an issue and made (2/X)
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
a decision on the health of everyone's implementation of a process based on a single team, in a single department, in a single branch (3/X)
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
of a single company, to decide that the industry wasn't performing correctly. There's a reason he took the easy way out when it was his turn
uBooLian
"I've done this for thousands of years." This imprecisely defines his audit of Earth took thousands of years. So, you are wrong. Why else?
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
No. His complete statement defines him as an auditor amongst all civilizations for 1000s of years, also as evidenced by his previous (1/x)
naturehike
The purpose of auditing is to identify areas of strength or improvement. He offered none of this.
ronnyhugo
Then again, if you measure something that metric becomes useless as a metric.
TELunus
You're thinking of Goodhart's law, but that's not quite it. It's "once a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
HedonistBeard
That's one type of auditing. There's also the audit of accounts/finances/ethics/code/whatever where you're just checking for flaws.
nullbr
They are auditing for themselves, the civilization doesnt get the feedback, there 3 outcomes, you pass, are given more time, or destroyed.
Denim777
technically, the comic said "dealt with"... could just mean an exile on a galactic scale... like a cloak/veil of solitude that filters life
nullbr
South Park already did it with the galatic federation and Baby Fark Mcgeezax
IsometricExerciseCareToJoinMe
Yeah, I'd like to know as well
BlurpBleepBoopERRORERROR
tossed a response as a reply on Foxcross's question
Foxcross
A nice response as well.