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Our 9 year old has always been very socially awkward, and really more than just that. Last spring he was diagnosed with Asperger's. It has been hard knowing our baby will always struggle, but it's been great getting him the services he needs both in and out of school to succeed. Yesterday I got an email from his teacher that he had been sucking ink out of markers at school. He told his teacher he wanted to be sick the next day.
Immediately I wanted to assess his physical health. Was it Crayola or Sharpie? They were the kid safe crayola markers. At most he'd have the stomach ache he was hoping for.
Unfortunately a high percentage of aspies struggle with depression. Though they don't express emotions in a way that society says is normal, they do experience emotions deeply. They are very intelligent (often extremely gifted in one or more subjects), and the fact that they don't fit in and may never feel connected or loved or worthwhile isn't lost on them. While his teacher, who has been great, was mostly concerned with the need for social coaching and why did he want to miss school, I knew there was a much bigger discussion that needed to happen.
When he got home, we went to a private space and began our talk. He didn't want to hurt himself other than to avoid school, but he did tell me he wants to be dead. After talking a bit more, he told me he thinks about it "all the time," but doesn't have a plan on doing it. We are fortunate to have a relationship with a counselor who met with him that afternoon. He told her the same things. He said he liked talking to her, and we set up an appointment to see her again tomorrow. In the meantime, he made a safety plan to get through the next two days.
I can't stress enough that those in your life with Asperger's, regardless of age, more likely than not struggle with depression. Many times their depression is masked, even to them, because the traits of Asperger's and the symptoms of depression overlap quite a bit. If you have concerns, for yourself or for someone you know, please reach out.
SSGBilko
My son was diagnosed with Asperger's when he was pretty young. At 19 he followed his dream and joined the Army. I am very proud of him.
rockhydra
Wholesome approach to the issue. Good work. I feel for you and him.
FungusForge
I'm high functioning and yeah. I'm actually seeing a therapist because thoughts of suicide are fucking concerning.
SuperTacticalSandwich
My brother is in his 20s and deals with his Aspergers by staying up all night drinking and smoking pot. or maybe he's just lazy
Bizarkly
Self-medication with weed is quite common with Asperger's, as it reliably spikes dopamine: people substitute being blissed for being happy.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Honestly, as someone with Aspergers, that sounds kinda like a cry for help to me.
PeterNormal
The best advice I wish I had received as a kid: It is A LOT harder to be a kid on the spectrum than an adult on the spectrum.
InkedInOttawa
My 10 yo aspie has been suicidal. We have the "I want to die" talk often
deadlyvenom354
I have Autism myself, and I can tell you now depression and anxiety will never go away best thing to do is help him find ways to manage it
AvielMenter
Same, but my anxiety and depression have substantially alleviated. They're not insurmountable.
deadlyvenom354
And support him no matter what, it’s a tough road I’ve attempted suicide a few times myself just do everything you can to help
SuperheroNamedTony
Shit :( Hope you all get the tools to handle the situation better
sretlaw29
I know people with aspergers and they're fascinated by death... he wants to be dead but doesn't want to die... if that makes sense
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OreoD
Used to do that, lol
stopitlucas
He's lucky to have your support
WannaHaveACatch
I have the burgers too. Felt this way when I was younger, but don’t feel that way as often anymore. 1/2
JefftheIntern
+1 for "the burgers." Wish I had another +1 to give for the good advice.
WannaHaveACatch
I like eating good food, playing video games, watching baseball, and drinking with friends too much to say goodbye. 2/2
Ithinkibrokesomething
Aspie that also enjoys good food, video games, drinking, and baseball too much...are you my twin?
WannaHaveACatch
Nope, they broke the mold when they made me
veilofanon
+1 for "the burgers"
IronicJeremyIrons
I wish I had half the family support you are giving to your son
PudgyPinkiePie
This. People don't realize that aspies feel the sting of being ostracized, especially with the fact that they don't understand /why/
Painteagle
I'm seeing these comments of people who are relating, and while I can't relate, I don't want any of you to die. Not even just as an idea,1/2
Painteagle
2/2 but individually, I want you all to live.
HolyHellJezebel
I hope you have a better day tomorrow.
SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
The first thing we were told when our 5 y/o was diagnosed, he has anxiety and self esteem issues. We practice healthy emotions and talking.
SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
He cries in class, and has "big emotions". We tell him to feel those emotions, everyone cries, but don't let them take over. And talk to us.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
You sound like the parents that I wish I had
SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
The world is hard enough on boys' emotions when they're neurotypical, he needs a strong base tempered with ability to let go healthily.
Kitbash
Sometimes you find something about yourself that you can't change. You end up thinking you're broken. The hard truth is we're all broken.
LegitNESSLmT
Thank you for passing on this story and info. So glad you and your son have good communication. Best wishes
Theazel
I'd be happy to write him a letter or two of encouragement, if you think it may help. A little love goes a long way <3
plasmamatters
That would be awesome. If you inbox me letters, I'll print it out and for him. That goes for any of you! 9 yr old appropriate of course.
Theazel
Can do! Does he like animals? I could include pictures of my pet rats as well.
plasmamatters
Very much so. He would love that!
TedCruzIsMyHero
As a fell aspie my best piece of advice when dealing with depression is have him engross himself with a past time he enjoys. /1
TedCruzIsMyHero
The distraction can keep his mind occupied and away from his darker thoughts. This works for me but may not for others. I have struggled /2
TedCruzIsMyHero
for as long as I can remember with depression and the one thing that I know is definitive is it does not go away. Talking about it /3
TedCruzIsMyHero
can help but there is no exact cure for it. I hope he finds something in his life to keep his mind away from his dark thoughts.
GodEmperorOfImgur
As someone who has aspergers as well, and who is 30. It never gets "easy" but it can get better. I feel so damn lucky that I can study 1/3
GodEmperorOfImgur
at university in a subject I find super interesting (Classical history). But... I remember trying to choke myself to death when I was 2/3
GodEmperorOfImgur
around 10 as well. Your son is lucky that he has a LOT of help and support, I got diagnosed when I was 21. Awesome you're there for him. 3/3
jayu
I'm in my early 30s and only found out that I have Asperger's 6 months ago. My entire life finally made sense. 1/?
jayu
I struggled with depression for the past 6-7 years and these are only the years that I actually realize I was depressed. 2/?
jayu
Not knowing about my depression cost me me first serious relationship. Untreated depression and not knowing about AS cost methe second. 3/?
jayu
While I was breaking up with my last girlfriend she came up with Asperger's and she was right. Diagnosis can make or break you. 4/?
jayu
Hopefully, it will make you stronger because knowing is half the battle. I am on meds now and feeling better. Diagnosis is key to living.5/5
shutupjennifer
How did you get diagnosed?
MatthewBpbuds
Aspie myself: "Though they don't express emotions in a way that society says is normal, they do experience emotions deeply." 1/2
MatthewBpbuds
2/2 more people need to understand htis.
MatthewBpbuds
this*
Jklmon
As an autistic, I advice you to not pity him because of his neurological wiring. Tell him that you love him for who he is and that you [1]
Jklmon
will never change his neurology if you had the chance. Also, ask if the teachers or students did anything to make him feel this way. [2]
Jklmon
He shouldn't feel he deserved to die because of how he was born. Or how the world is turning. Make sure everything is okay. I wouldn't [3]
Jklmon
want to feel alone and afraid either... [4]
Waitingforthedarknes
As one of the aspes I found getting a hobby is a good way to take my mind of my problems
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Seconded, for me it's Warhammer. Finding a certain interest they can go deep into helps too, always liked animals, became my username since
Jklmon
Just maintain your special interests to things you can afford. It's painful to have something that is part of your special interest to [1]
Jklmon
be out of your financial grasp. It's why I usually share what my parents use. Usually, it's Netflix since the family is subscribed to [2]
Jklmon
it. I mainly watch TV because that's what I have access to. [3]
LupusIgnis
Researchers are currently looking into "autistic burnout" which looks very much like depression but stems from too many impressions. It may>
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LupusIgnis
> be relevant to check out, as the treatment is a bit different. My wife has been dealing with her burnouts better since she identified them
plasmamatters
Thank you. I will.
Kuvajainen
Get him some aspie friends with matching energy levels and common interests. You can find tons of aspie kids if you just reach out.
Kuvajainen
He doesn't need to fit in with everyone "normal", there are people alike to him, his own "tribe". Make him feel like he belongs.
Slapthefatcat
I have several aspie friends, though not aspie myself. I can agree, they have a hard time finding friends by themselves with exceptions 1/
Slapthefatcat
of finding people with similar interests. My interest is anime, which happens to be a common interest.
Slapthefatcat
*I apologize if aspie is not the correct term, I am just following the terms of the comment thread.
OreoD
Yea, as an autistic guy I really don't have that many friends, which may have to do w/ the fact that I really don't care about the /1
YouSmellDifferentWhenYoureAwake
In my 30’s and literally last week got diagnosed with autism. Suffered with anxiety for years. Hope he gets all the support. 1/2
rimisa
where does one get evaluated? i am hoping to get some answers
YouSmellDifferentWhenYoureAwake
If you’re in the UK there’s the autism society which have a great site http://www.autism.org.uk/ lots of information and help.
rimisa
i am in the us :(
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Welcome to the club, it isn't always easy, but know you're not alone, there's plenty of us out there who understand the struggle
fructoric
Same age. Going in for eval next week...
YouSmellDifferentWhenYoureAwake
2/2 great that he can have help in his youth to help him grow to his full potential whatever that will be.
shutupjennifer
How did you get the diagnosis? What were you experiencing?
YouSmellDifferentWhenYoureAwake
Had anxiety for years through not understanding social interactions. Thought it was normal. Wife (GF @ time) asked me if anyone
YouSmellDifferentWhenYoureAwake
Had mentioned about me being autistic as I had loads of traits. Routines, not very talkative unless it was something I was really in to
YouSmellDifferentWhenYoureAwake
Was referred through NHS by my doctor and then a mental health team referred me for an assessment. It’s taken almost 2 years.
SerMorgenstern
I’ve got Aspergers and while I’ve never wanted to die, I’ve felt like he does. Best I can recommend is finding a hobby that be enjoys 1/?
FriendlyNeighborhoodLoner
Same. I shoot shit. And sail. And occasionally fly a plane.
SerMorgenstern
For me, I had no real friends outside of my Xbox for years, which sucked, but spontaneously I went to a hobby/game store and started 2/?
SerMorgenstern
Playing Magic, the Gathering. Now I know it’s weird, but part of me loves meeting the people playing there, and another part loves 3/?
SerMorgenstern
Seeing how the cards in the game interact with one another, and honestly it’s really calming. I know that’s just my case, but try to 4/?
SerMorgenstern
Find something like that your son will enjoy. 5/5
GodEmperorOfImgur
For me, it was Roleplaying in general. Like Pen and Paper and LARP, it really helped me open up a LOT.
PoultryInMotion
I wish I liked games to make gaming friends haha people in the real world are tough to connect with especially with all of the predators
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Gonna throw my hat in the ring here, have aspergers, collecting Warhammer and similar model kits helped me enormously with managing 1/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Being a part of the community was great, seeing my skills in painting and modelling gave me a boost in confidence and 2/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
The assembly and painting in of itself felt really good, given that I like having things ordered and under control. 3/3
IronHawkGaming
So as someone with Aspbergers as well we mostly all enjoy hobby games like MTG and warhammer and D&D which I play all
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
As an "aspie" myself, this sounds about right. Warning you now, it'll never go away. But he can learn to work with it
DylanMorrison
Agree on all points.
Allofyoush
I'm an Aspie too, and I can say that for me depression shows itself mainly as just a critical apathy. It doesn't really SHOW itself besides.
TheNoblePizzaDragonWhoLivesInYourFridge
Wait I've got Aspergers and despite my shit childhood, shit health, and shit finances I never felt like that... good thing I guess,
TheNoblePizzaDragonWhoLivesInYourFridge
Because if I did I would have ended it all over a decade ago
CrimsonGypsy
Who the hell had the balls to downvote this!? Sorry for your struggles. Keep fighting the good fight!
Ettesb
As an Aspie who was diagnosed late (22/23) I pretty much agree this sounds about right. Its going to take time and social adaption to cope.
Kitlia
Age 4 here. Lived with it my whole life, but I learned it's best to make use of what you have and make best of that
WoTLert
22/23, huh ... I was diagnosed at 36. Am 41 now. Been slooooooowly rebuilding my life. Still a long way to go.
Ettesb
That must of been hard, having a big knock in your way of life at that point.
WoTLert
Very hard in some respects. Finally some answers, things starting to make sense and doors opening in other respects. Best thing that 1/2
WoTLert
ever happened to me for sure, but also the hardest step I ever made. All in all, life-changing.
SpiritoftheSands
Yeah same here, i want to die but i dont really want to kill myself
whiskeytangofoxtrot1
As an aspie I found sports to help when I was young, and routine
YouShouldSeeItWhenitsAngry
UrsaPsi
It can. Im fixated on system analysis, and I manifest it through cell phone repair. Its a way to use my unique modus to actually help people
NothingIsWrong
(Aspie) you're telling me I'm going to feel like this for the rest of my life? Fuck man, why even bother?
elderlyechbert
will become able to identify and isolate the depressed feelings, as such negative swings become less intense.allowing you to exp life again
Zyrixion
That's the hard part, man. Gotta find your own reasons. I still struggle with it at almost-28 myself, it never gets easier.
FlightRisk3154
For those times when you are genuinely happy? even if you know 2 hours later it will be gone?
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
Here's the thing: Everyone feels like this at some points in their lives. We just feel it more intensely. But that means we feel the good1/2
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
stuff more intensely as well! It's a balancing act, and you just have to learn to work with the bad and ride the good. 2/2
Caspooky
Can confirm. As an auti, everybody in my home group thinks about about dying. You'll just learn to appreciate things you like better. :)
Jklmon
You have been told you've been inferior since childhood. Even if you know it's a load of bull, it really cuts deep. Make no mistake. [1]
Jklmon
Does a world where a angry troll with no qualifications is elected in office seem like a normal world to you? Just wanted to bring it up [2]
Jklmon
because the people who tell you that you need to be fixed can't ever seem to set any standards for themselves... [3]
Caspooky
How did you even get to Trump? O_o I'm not even American and have 0% affliction of him. It's all them vaccinations which gave me the auti...
Svartlebee
I haven't been tested Yet, but it sounds like how I feel a lot of the time. I don't want to die but I don't really want to live either.
GodEmperorOfImgur
It's not just "not really wanting to live, but not wanting to die". That said, yeah, counselling will do you good, it's not bad to have 1/2
GodEmperorOfImgur
someone to talk to about your issues. 2/2
plasmamatters
Looking into counselling almost feels like failing at life; or at least it did for me in my 20s. Just do it. It helps. If you (1/2)
plasmamatters
need meds too, do it. Chemical imbalances in the brain is no different than needing meds for other things. Life can be good.
Svartlebee
I already have an appointment for the 12th to see if I can get tested and get some help with it.
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
Too bad there is no test for it that exists whaysoever
plasmamatters
Super glad to hear it! Mental health is a lot of trial and error, so keep at it. I hope you find better times.
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
Except there is zero way to measure those imbalances or to precisely know what impact the medicine has on brain chemicals
HalfMouse
Just because the imbalance can't be measured doesn't mean medication isn't useful. That's what different doses and prescriptions are for.
Evolutionist
This is my son to a t, starting at 11. He is now 20 and finally finding meds that help. Get government assistance too early for therapy.
Evolutionist
The school won't tell you because some of this comes out of their budget. Ask any questions to a parent who went through all of this.
Svartlebee
My parents were likely not even aware. To them I was this bookish, self-contained child who got hyper occasionally.