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Nov 28, 2017 5:34 PM

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Our 9 year old has always been very socially awkward, and really more than just that. Last spring he was diagnosed with Asperger's. It has been hard knowing our baby will always struggle, but it's been great getting him the services he needs both in and out of school to succeed. Yesterday I got an email from his teacher that he had been sucking ink out of markers at school. He told his teacher he wanted to be sick the next day.

Immediately I wanted to assess his physical health. Was it Crayola or Sharpie? They were the kid safe crayola markers. At most he'd have the stomach ache he was hoping for.

Unfortunately a high percentage of aspies struggle with depression. Though they don't express emotions in a way that society says is normal, they do experience emotions deeply. They are very intelligent (often extremely gifted in one or more subjects), and the fact that they don't fit in and may never feel connected or loved or worthwhile isn't lost on them. While his teacher, who has been great, was mostly concerned with the need for social coaching and why did he want to miss school, I knew there was a much bigger discussion that needed to happen.

When he got home, we went to a private space and began our talk. He didn't want to hurt himself other than to avoid school, but he did tell me he wants to be dead. After talking a bit more, he told me he thinks about it "all the time," but doesn't have a plan on doing it. We are fortunate to have a relationship with a counselor who met with him that afternoon. He told her the same things. He said he liked talking to her, and we set up an appointment to see her again tomorrow. In the meantime, he made a safety plan to get through the next two days.

I can't stress enough that those in your life with Asperger's, regardless of age, more likely than not struggle with depression. Many times their depression is masked, even to them, because the traits of Asperger's and the symptoms of depression overlap quite a bit. If you have concerns, for yourself or for someone you know, please reach out.

My son was diagnosed with Asperger's when he was pretty young. At 19 he followed his dream and joined the Army. I am very proud of him.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Wholesome approach to the issue. Good work. I feel for you and him.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm high functioning and yeah. I'm actually seeing a therapist because thoughts of suicide are fucking concerning.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My brother is in his 20s and deals with his Aspergers by staying up all night drinking and smoking pot. or maybe he's just lazy

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Self-medication with weed is quite common with Asperger's, as it reliably spikes dopamine: people substitute being blissed for being happy.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Honestly, as someone with Aspergers, that sounds kinda like a cry for help to me.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The best advice I wish I had received as a kid: It is A LOT harder to be a kid on the spectrum than an adult on the spectrum.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

My 10 yo aspie has been suicidal. We have the "I want to die" talk often

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I have Autism myself, and I can tell you now depression and anxiety will never go away best thing to do is help him find ways to manage it

8 years ago | Likes 201 Dislikes 2

Same, but my anxiety and depression have substantially alleviated. They're not insurmountable.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And support him no matter what, it’s a tough road I’ve attempted suicide a few times myself just do everything you can to help

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Shit :( Hope you all get the tools to handle the situation better

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I know people with aspergers and they're fascinated by death... he wants to be dead but doesn't want to die... if that makes sense

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Dec 4, 2017 11:32 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Used to do that, lol

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He's lucky to have your support

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I have the burgers too. Felt this way when I was younger, but don’t feel that way as often anymore. 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 3

+1 for "the burgers." Wish I had another +1 to give for the good advice.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I like eating good food, playing video games, watching baseball, and drinking with friends too much to say goodbye. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 1

Aspie that also enjoys good food, video games, drinking, and baseball too much...are you my twin?

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Nope, they broke the mold when they made me

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

+1 for "the burgers"

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I wish I had half the family support you are giving to your son

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This. People don't realize that aspies feel the sting of being ostracized, especially with the fact that they don't understand /why/

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I'm seeing these comments of people who are relating, and while I can't relate, I don't want any of you to die. Not even just as an idea,1/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/2 but individually, I want you all to live.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hope you have a better day tomorrow.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

The first thing we were told when our 5 y/o was diagnosed, he has anxiety and self esteem issues. We practice healthy emotions and talking.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

He cries in class, and has "big emotions". We tell him to feel those emotions, everyone cries, but don't let them take over. And talk to us.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

You sound like the parents that I wish I had

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The world is hard enough on boys' emotions when they're neurotypical, he needs a strong base tempered with ability to let go healthily.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Sometimes you find something about yourself that you can't change. You end up thinking you're broken. The hard truth is we're all broken.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thank you for passing on this story and info. So glad you and your son have good communication. Best wishes

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'd be happy to write him a letter or two of encouragement, if you think it may help. A little love goes a long way <3

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

That would be awesome. If you inbox me letters, I'll print it out and for him. That goes for any of you! 9 yr old appropriate of course.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Can do! Does he like animals? I could include pictures of my pet rats as well.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Very much so. He would love that!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a fell aspie my best piece of advice when dealing with depression is have him engross himself with a past time he enjoys. /1

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The distraction can keep his mind occupied and away from his darker thoughts. This works for me but may not for others. I have struggled /2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

for as long as I can remember with depression and the one thing that I know is definitive is it does not go away. Talking about it /3

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

can help but there is no exact cure for it. I hope he finds something in his life to keep his mind away from his dark thoughts.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As someone who has aspergers as well, and who is 30. It never gets "easy" but it can get better. I feel so damn lucky that I can study 1/3

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

at university in a subject I find super interesting (Classical history). But... I remember trying to choke myself to death when I was 2/3

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

around 10 as well. Your son is lucky that he has a LOT of help and support, I got diagnosed when I was 21. Awesome you're there for him. 3/3

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm in my early 30s and only found out that I have Asperger's 6 months ago. My entire life finally made sense. 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

I struggled with depression for the past 6-7 years and these are only the years that I actually realize I was depressed. 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Not knowing about my depression cost me me first serious relationship. Untreated depression and not knowing about AS cost methe second. 3/?

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

While I was breaking up with my last girlfriend she came up with Asperger's and she was right. Diagnosis can make or break you. 4/?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Hopefully, it will make you stronger because knowing is half the battle. I am on meds now and feeling better. Diagnosis is key to living.5/5

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

How did you get diagnosed?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Aspie myself: "Though they don't express emotions in a way that society says is normal, they do experience emotions deeply." 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2/2 more people need to understand htis.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

this*

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an autistic, I advice you to not pity him because of his neurological wiring. Tell him that you love him for who he is and that you [1]

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

will never change his neurology if you had the chance. Also, ask if the teachers or students did anything to make him feel this way. [2]

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He shouldn't feel he deserved to die because of how he was born. Or how the world is turning. Make sure everything is okay. I wouldn't [3]

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

want to feel alone and afraid either... [4]

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As one of the aspes I found getting a hobby is a good way to take my mind of my problems

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Seconded, for me it's Warhammer. Finding a certain interest they can go deep into helps too, always liked animals, became my username since

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just maintain your special interests to things you can afford. It's painful to have something that is part of your special interest to [1]

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

be out of your financial grasp. It's why I usually share what my parents use. Usually, it's Netflix since the family is subscribed to [2]

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

it. I mainly watch TV because that's what I have access to. [3]

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Researchers are currently looking into "autistic burnout" which looks very much like depression but stems from too many impressions. It may>

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Dot

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

> be relevant to check out, as the treatment is a bit different. My wife has been dealing with her burnouts better since she identified them

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Thank you. I will.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Get him some aspie friends with matching energy levels and common interests. You can find tons of aspie kids if you just reach out.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He doesn't need to fit in with everyone "normal", there are people alike to him, his own "tribe". Make him feel like he belongs.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I have several aspie friends, though not aspie myself. I can agree, they have a hard time finding friends by themselves with exceptions 1/

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

of finding people with similar interests. My interest is anime, which happens to be a common interest.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*I apologize if aspie is not the correct term, I am just following the terms of the comment thread.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yea, as an autistic guy I really don't have that many friends, which may have to do w/ the fact that I really don't care about the /1

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In my 30’s and literally last week got diagnosed with autism. Suffered with anxiety for years. Hope he gets all the support. 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 2

where does one get evaluated? i am hoping to get some answers

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you’re in the UK there’s the autism society which have a great site http://www.autism.org.uk/ lots of information and help.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i am in the us :(

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Welcome to the club, it isn't always easy, but know you're not alone, there's plenty of us out there who understand the struggle

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same age. Going in for eval next week...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/2 great that he can have help in his youth to help him grow to his full potential whatever that will be.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

How did you get the diagnosis? What were you experiencing?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Had anxiety for years through not understanding social interactions. Thought it was normal. Wife (GF @ time) asked me if anyone

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Had mentioned about me being autistic as I had loads of traits. Routines, not very talkative unless it was something I was really in to

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was referred through NHS by my doctor and then a mental health team referred me for an assessment. It’s taken almost 2 years.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’ve got Aspergers and while I’ve never wanted to die, I’ve felt like he does. Best I can recommend is finding a hobby that be enjoys 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 114 Dislikes 3

Same. I shoot shit. And sail. And occasionally fly a plane.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For me, I had no real friends outside of my Xbox for years, which sucked, but spontaneously I went to a hobby/game store and started 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 0

Playing Magic, the Gathering. Now I know it’s weird, but part of me loves meeting the people playing there, and another part loves 3/?

8 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 0

Seeing how the cards in the game interact with one another, and honestly it’s really calming. I know that’s just my case, but try to 4/?

8 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 0

Find something like that your son will enjoy. 5/5

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

For me, it was Roleplaying in general. Like Pen and Paper and LARP, it really helped me open up a LOT.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I wish I liked games to make gaming friends haha people in the real world are tough to connect with especially with all of the predators

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Gonna throw my hat in the ring here, have aspergers, collecting Warhammer and similar model kits helped me enormously with managing 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Being a part of the community was great, seeing my skills in painting and modelling gave me a boost in confidence and 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The assembly and painting in of itself felt really good, given that I like having things ordered and under control. 3/3

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So as someone with Aspbergers as well we mostly all enjoy hobby games like MTG and warhammer and D&D which I play all

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As an "aspie" myself, this sounds about right. Warning you now, it'll never go away. But he can learn to work with it

8 years ago | Likes 692 Dislikes 7

Agree on all points.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm an Aspie too, and I can say that for me depression shows itself mainly as just a critical apathy. It doesn't really SHOW itself besides.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Wait I've got Aspergers and despite my shit childhood, shit health, and shit finances I never felt like that... good thing I guess,

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Because if I did I would have ended it all over a decade ago

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who the hell had the balls to downvote this!? Sorry for your struggles. Keep fighting the good fight!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

As an Aspie who was diagnosed late (22/23) I pretty much agree this sounds about right. Its going to take time and social adaption to cope.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Age 4 here. Lived with it my whole life, but I learned it's best to make use of what you have and make best of that

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

22/23, huh ... I was diagnosed at 36. Am 41 now. Been slooooooowly rebuilding my life. Still a long way to go.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That must of been hard, having a big knock in your way of life at that point.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Very hard in some respects. Finally some answers, things starting to make sense and doors opening in other respects. Best thing that 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ever happened to me for sure, but also the hardest step I ever made. All in all, life-changing.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah same here, i want to die but i dont really want to kill myself

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an aspie I found sports to help when I was young, and routine

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It can. Im fixated on system analysis, and I manifest it through cell phone repair. Its a way to use my unique modus to actually help people

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(Aspie) you're telling me I'm going to feel like this for the rest of my life? Fuck man, why even bother?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

will become able to identify and isolate the depressed feelings, as such negative swings become less intense.allowing you to exp life again

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's the hard part, man. Gotta find your own reasons. I still struggle with it at almost-28 myself, it never gets easier.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For those times when you are genuinely happy? even if you know 2 hours later it will be gone?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Here's the thing: Everyone feels like this at some points in their lives. We just feel it more intensely. But that means we feel the good1/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

stuff more intensely as well! It's a balancing act, and you just have to learn to work with the bad and ride the good. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Can confirm. As an auti, everybody in my home group thinks about about dying. You'll just learn to appreciate things you like better. :)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You have been told you've been inferior since childhood. Even if you know it's a load of bull, it really cuts deep. Make no mistake. [1]

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Does a world where a angry troll with no qualifications is elected in office seem like a normal world to you? Just wanted to bring it up [2]

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

because the people who tell you that you need to be fixed can't ever seem to set any standards for themselves... [3]

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

How did you even get to Trump? O_o I'm not even American and have 0% affliction of him. It's all them vaccinations which gave me the auti...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I haven't been tested Yet, but it sounds like how I feel a lot of the time. I don't want to die but I don't really want to live either.

8 years ago | Likes 88 Dislikes 5

It's not just "not really wanting to live, but not wanting to die". That said, yeah, counselling will do you good, it's not bad to have 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

someone to talk to about your issues. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Looking into counselling almost feels like failing at life; or at least it did for me in my 20s. Just do it. It helps. If you (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

need meds too, do it. Chemical imbalances in the brain is no different than needing meds for other things. Life can be good.

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 0

I already have an appointment for the 12th to see if I can get tested and get some help with it.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Too bad there is no test for it that exists whaysoever

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Super glad to hear it! Mental health is a lot of trial and error, so keep at it. I hope you find better times.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Except there is zero way to measure those imbalances or to precisely know what impact the medicine has on brain chemicals

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Just because the imbalance can't be measured doesn't mean medication isn't useful. That's what different doses and prescriptions are for.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is my son to a t, starting at 11. He is now 20 and finally finding meds that help. Get government assistance too early for therapy.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The school won't tell you because some of this comes out of their budget. Ask any questions to a parent who went through all of this.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My parents were likely not even aware. To them I was this bookish, self-contained child who got hyper occasionally.

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