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The UK overplayed Ireland’s reliance on the UK land bridge between Ireland & mainland Europe. Priti Patel even threatened to starve the people of Ireland if Ireland didn’t drop the Backstop. Meanwhile, Ireland was busy making other plans… #brexit
Whoop! Front page!!!! Finally a Brexit Benefit!!
Roffotron
BuT sOvErIeGnTy!
Thorpington
best version of "hey... you wasn't supposed to notice that" iv ever seen.
Sm9yCg
https://imgur.com/fUJsx3o BBC has a better graphics
szepasszony
I love how it is an actual map of how BREXIT is repelling trade, commerce and opportunity from Brittan.
GlenL
Did . . . did the brexiters forget they're on an island?
ForgetMyFate
Revenge for the potato famine
KiwiGameDev
Lol imagine threatening to starve Irish and thinking that would go over well
Sm9yCg
interesting source: https://www.politico.eu/article/ferry-firms-avoid-britain-with-brexit-buster-services-from-ireland-to-eu/
hohohoooo
Idiot
torp
Tories = GOP, but with tea and silk tie.
N0S4A2
UpTheDubs
Never fuck with Ireland. H'on the lads!
DarkHourse
This is how imagine it will play out:
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SuperUpvote
I hate when the direct Ireland EU ferry doesn't just visit other countries first.
rossdonohue
1812 vibes intensify
Ploty
Great idea of British to threaten to starve the Irish. This arrogance has no borders
RadishIsAMeat
"it's just a rumour". Everyone in the comments "oh this is definitely fact lolololololol".
mormacil
https://portofzeebrugge.be/en/news-events/cldn-expands-short-sea-services-between-zeebrugge-and-ireland
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
The rumour is evening except the expansion of coastal shipping from Ireland to the continent. That has been spinning up
toralisasam
Classic imgur
arraitwillbegrand
Just to be pedantic it isn't an Ireland-EU route as Ireland is in the EU. It is an Ireland-continental Europe route
Sm9yCg
England and Wales were convenient land bridges for trade between Ireland and the Continent. Not anymore.
IdUpvoteYouButYoureAt69
VonFuriku
Brits starved them once already. Never forget. The fact that someone even threatened starving them in modern times is too much.
WanhaCettu
Just watched documentary about that.. The Trevalerier or what ever was real scumbag.
guigner
https://youtu.be/Zr1rzSSMsac
gallowglacht
Trevelyan. Sir Charles Edward Trevelyan. But, yeah, we still hate that guy.
xstickman
Brexit was ideology first, and an attempt to cram solutions into it afterwards. There was never proper thought put into it, just soundbites.
Yellowboy66
That was always going to be the way unfortunately, the people in charge of seeing it through didn't want it in the first place.
mithiwithi
That #borisborder hashtag on the map, tho
mormacil
It was his decision, he could've kept the customs union like other non-EU countries.
madjo
Well the Good Friday Agreement forbids an actual border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, or the Troubles start again
madjo
But with Brexit some border checks are needed. So they've basically put that border in the Irish sea.
lamontcranston
An Indian threatening the Irish to make them do what the English want.
SonderingStrike
I'm glad, as a Brit who voted remain, that they are doing this. I want to watch leavers squirm every time someone mentions Brexit
sjg1711350
I voted remain. Are you crazy? You're glad the ship you're on is sinking because you can watch others squirm? I hope the best for Brexit
ace5762
There's no 'best' to be had. It was all downsides. I want them to see the failure the tory government sold the country so they'll stop /
ace5762
Voting for the bastards.
ace5762
Maybe then with an actual representational government we'll salvage what's left from this nose dive into fascism.
sheep21
So, we got an, uh, source for the UK home Secretary threatening to starve the Irish?
Yellowboy66
No, because it's not what she said at all. But we shouldn't let a little thing like facts stand in the way of Imgur's anti-brexit mob.
irishsublime4
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46488479
lemmesmashplease
You are the real MVP
sheep21
So, she said there was a serious risk if there was a no deal brexit of a knockon effect to goods heading into the Republic via the UK....
sheep21
Not exactly what's in the picture posted by the OP then....
rossimus
Google "what is subtext?"
sheep21
The OPs post states the home secretary said something. They did not. Its debatable if she meant what is being inferred here.
guigner
You don’t know much about Priti Patel, then. It’s was a very thinly-veiled threat which she swiftly apologised for once she made it: .
sheep21
Warning that a dislocation of road haulage via uk ports to the continent may have a negative impact on IRE seems rather prudent tbh
gaffeg
Umm... drawing of ferry routes + idle assertion. Proves what?
CreateYourOwnNormality
https://www.portofcork.ie/index.cfm/page/currentnews/id/275
CreateYourOwnNormality
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0703/1151216-dublin-port-redevelopment/
Yellowboy66
That people on the internet will believe anything if you put some pretty pictures with it.
CreateYourOwnNormality
https://www.portofcork.ie/index.cfm/page/currentnews/id/273
CreateYourOwnNormality
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-shipping-industry-booming-boats-14203479
CreateYourOwnNormality
https://portofzeebrugge.be/en/news-events/cldn-expands-short-sea-services-between-zeebrugge-and-ireland
ProppaGanda
That Brexit was a clusterfuck drawn by the most incompetent people who forgot the existence of fucking boats?
gaffeg
It proves that does it? Wow!
GnomeDeGuerre
And Ireland.
SolHSA
"People are tired of experts"
mikeymikec
It's amazing that quote didn't single-handedly sink the Leave campaign. Speaks volumes really
IKnowWhereSydBarrettLived
The Tories are dumber than a bag of hammers.
JadeNB1729
Psht, like they know how to make fire.
Rongeong
Conservatives are the same no matter what flag they fly. Hell they're even trying to privatize the NHS.
GlowstickJedi
There's no 'trying', it's happening: https://publicmatters.org.uk/2019/10/08/how-much-of-the-nhs-in-england-has-already-been-privatised/
zombiejedediah
A bag of hammers is at least occasionally useful.
TodayIsSlapANaziDay
They’re extremely useful. You can take the hammers out and hammer some Tories with them
AmArschdieRaeuber
Don't be fooled. They aren't dumb. Just maliciously opportunistic.
itsapirateslifeforme
Or just plain malicious.
KuldFyt
Not mutually exclusive...
RelevantImgurian
This is absolutely RIDICULOUS!! This not NOT representative of a MODERN BRITAIN and the fact that this NONSENSE would be made is UTTER...
RelevantImgurian
MADNESS!! Boris has blonde hair...
ElroydIsGone
And the man's hairdo in the pic is much too orderly. That ain't a Boris, that's for sure.
RelevantImgurian
Thing is, it’s meant to be? As in, you look at him and go “What a funny looking bloke” and not “Did he just call Muslim women postboxes??”
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
Not seeing any brighter buttons amongst the Labour Party or the Lib Dems. UK politics is a sea of sub-mediocre cunts
IKnowWhereSydBarrettLived
Sadly true.
GnomeDeGuerre
There's a lot invested into making people think that.'
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
Give me a single name that you would heartily recommend
GnomeDeGuerre
Good counter. I can't
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
I'm NOT saying that there any good in the shitshow that is the Tories just that everyone else is just a different flavour of shit
Bystandr
imakesoft
This is awesome!
natachan
Priti Patel is awful, she would oversee the Irish famine if she had the power
GuacamoleMoleMolester
Priti Pathetic
N0S4A2
Jip, she is the nastiest politician I have seen in a while.
aodhfin
As an American, "And she's not one of ours?! Hot damn."
N0S4A2
She seems to have modelled herself on the worst you've got. -sigh-
natachan
She really is. She's a nasty piece of work.
PicassoCT
Ouch. Starve me once, shame on you, starve me twice, shame on ..
Strostkovy
Still shame on you, actually
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SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Britain...
TotallyNotSarcastic
We… we can’t get starved again
mormacil
That's what the Dutch thought in WW2, ever since we make sure we grow enough domestically to never have that happen again.
Icanhearwhatyouresayingandtheanswerisno
Ummmm, it doesn’t matter how much you produce domestically if your neighbors just barge in and take everything for themselves
mormacil
It's a lot easier to hide what you produce then smuggle in imports. Only the regions that imported had a big famine.
VodkaReindeer
Dutch had a famine in ww2?
ironman3010
solsactual
Hehehe I saw your Bush Jr
unfortunategoose
The trouble with the EU is they have no word for Entrepreneur
KuldFyt
I dunno if that's trouble so much as it is problem solving...
mormacil
Then what do they call founders of Klarna, N26, Picnic, Wolt and Bolt?
unfortunategoose
Ceci n'est pas un Bushism
mormacil
I don't speak French, not among the languages I've mastered.
SecondAccountforDoingOtherShit
Just thought of the Who. "Yeeeeeeah! Wont get starved again!"
bilbobx1
The huge irony is some places in the UK have emptier shelves in the supermarket now because of all of this.
Yellowboy66
Has absolutely nothing to do with this.
penelopepissstop
The quality of fresh produce in the UK at present is abominable.
Cucumberclouds
Where are you? I’m in the Midlands and it’s fine. There’s a few things I can’t get from week to week but it’s largely fine.
penelopepissstop
Bristol! Shortages are fairly minor. You can just see the fruit and veg has longer in transit and gone a bit mank compared to before.
penelopepissstop
Where in the Midlands? I'm from nottz and lived In matlock for years.
Cucumberclouds
Outside Birmingham
tumppu
As a major seagoing power historically, the idea that they did not think of this is just astounding.
CandidGamera
Hey, the song says "Britannia rule the waves". You can forgive the Limeys for assuming that meant only they had long-range ships.
lamontcranston
modern conservatism rejects history, learning, and thinking of consequences.
Asteriacites
Oh I mean come on now. It's very easy to forget about a little thing like 'the sea'.
gallowglacht
The UK awarded a £14 million shipping contract to a company with no ships, and a terms and conditions page taken from a takeaway (1/x)
gallowglacht
They then spoke to an Irish shipping company about the contract, but signed no contract and then claimed the company backed out (2/3)
gallowglacht
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-shipping-company-had-no-contract-with-uk-no-deal-brexit-firm-1.3789647
gallowglacht
The whole thing was utterly bizarre from the country that once "ruled the waves" (4/3) - the link was too big...
Metalsmith21
"did not think" - exactly.
jeroen94704
Governments seem to have difficulty with the concept of "going around". Just read up on the French Maginot line.
iusedtodream
These are not their best years.
WrongUn
Seens to be going around atm unfortunately
imemmental
I mean, ffs, we are an island… a small one at that… how did the tories not think ‘gee, maybe Ireland and EU might just go around us?’
mormacil
It's the 9th largest island in the world. Tories are morons but Great Britain is pretty large.
cdlong
How did they do it before? I assume they're talking about land shipping through the channel and across England.
cdlong
And then to ships to get to Ireland? Why didn't they realize going to ships earlier was an option? Why wasn't it always done this way?
FoamingToad
Basically road haul all the way to Anglesey (NW tip of Wales) and then a short hop to Dublin, quite a bit faster. JIT efficiencies.
cdlong
Thanks for the info. Now I know infinitely more about shipping practices between Ireland and mainland Europe than I ever thought I would.
vegivamp
The idea that they are unimportant, inconsequential and just plain incompetent is impossible to hold for Tories.
stja
You have an interesting definition of "small island" if one of world's ten largest islands qualifies.
malkavian3str
Especially since their plan is to just trade with Australia instead of Europe.
StonesOnTheHill
Probably because they just assumed they could sink any trade they don't like as they did back in the day, when Britannia ruled the waves.
BrendonDugan
Thinking isn't big with BoJo the Clown
satanslittleposter
I wish people would stop calling him things like this. The man isn't an idiot, which makes everything he does SO much worse.
soyouwanttobeapirate
haha, they voted for brexit - I'm not surprised that these people have problems with thinking things through...
Amythas
49% voted against it, it wasn't meant to be a legal binding vote, a Election with a 49/51 split would been recounted twice. many changed.
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
It's all born of conservatism and nationalism. A lot of Brits still haven't realised that the world doesn't actually need us for anything.
Plaird
Kinda like the person at every job who's been there 30 years and thinks they're the best employee and irreplaceable
UKMonkey
It's kinda the same story as why people vote for trump really. Misinformation. Lies. Hope to return to a great past.
Syovere
One that never really existed in the way they think it did.
BoredAccountant
See Dominic Raabs' comments regarding Dover. AFTER the Brexit vote. While leading the trade talks....
BigSouthernJesse
What an asshole... and still at it now. Wankers the lot of them!
TeamSpicyTacos
He assumed stuff just showed up on his table my magic
dyxj
OGymruOGymro
One of the best clips from this entire shit show - DR expressing his surprise and expecting it to be met with agreement rather than a 1/2
OGymruOGymro
Horrified, astounded silence. Bizarrely, look at the idiot's spectacular CV, it's like he killed the real DR and stole his identity.
OGymruOGymro
2/2
akspartankiiier
I still dont understand brexit.
Wholivesinapineappleunderthetree
A corrupted political class convinced its populace that foreign people were coming for them and the best course of action was self-sabotage
FrolickingFrolicking
Corrupted political class COMBINED with massive Russian disinformation social media campaign, just like trump in USA at the time
SassySailor
Conservatives fuck everyone on both sides of the Atlantic.
mormacil
UK government blamed the UK for all bad things for decades. Enough some people believed it was better to get rid of the EU.
cakeface2016
Kind of, but it was more the media than the government. UK governments were pro-EU before Boris Johnson. Even Theresa May was a remainer.
mikeymikec
Well you have to start off with a entitled mindset. We're not ruling the EU, therefore it must be ruling us. Agreements and unions are >
mikeymikec
for pansies. Case in point: devolution of the UK. The English government does not play well with others.
Ricobe9
And that's even though the UK got a lot of special benefits as a member
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
The UK was in a big trading bloc with the EU to the benefit of all. Now it isn't, and is realising that the EU didn't need them at all. 1/?
akspartankiiier
So whats the deal Ireland? I keep seeing that
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
We left because the UK has become increasingly right wing and Americanised, and the left leaning EU wasn't a good fit from a right wing 2/3
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
perspective. Long story short, Brits identify more with Americans than we do with our own neighbors, and now we're alone. 3/3
7hatsBollocks
The part I love is that the UK already had special treatment by maintaining the pound while still in the EU trade block.
unfortunategoose
All the more so because the current US president identifies more with the Republic of Ireland than he does the UK. Apart from the 1/2
unfortunategoose
huge economic and cultural damage, it's actually pretty hilarious 2/2
TheAngryMarineBiologist
It's supporters don't either
DustInComp
Neither do they.
cakeface2016
Start with the fact that the UK paid more into the EU than it got out. Then it's a struggle to convince someone the benefits are worth it.
Gorgrim
when you factor in the trade benefits, and not just the direct payments from the EU, we were better off in than out.
MarioBoon
racism. That's all it is, really.
GnomeDeGuerre
And housing prices, a lack of future, centralization of power, wealth, culture, relevance, youth and so forth. Future was made exclusive.
MarioBoon
All caused by foreigners, they say.
GnomeDeGuerre
Have a look at the economic maps of the UK 10-20-30-40-50 years ago. It makes perfect sense.
FritztheBunn
50 years ago? for trade economics? should we include Yugoslavia and the USSR in those economic models? which Germany are we counting?
GnomeDeGuerre
My claim is that the voters behaved in a predictable manner in the brexit vote. That their dissatisfaction was obvious.
Ricobe9
The UK was actually struggling economically before they initially joined. Being a member boosted the English economy massively
GnomeDeGuerre
The overall economy yes, but look at the distribution of it. Housing prices. Employment. The "rebellion" was under way for a long time.
Ricobe9
But most of that is due to the UKs own government. The EU doesn't dictate everything. They are sometimes used as a scapegoat
Ricobe9
And to be clear, I'm not saying the EU is perfect. There's a lot i would fix. But there's far more pros than cons
FEMAcampsarereal
The UK got the deal of the century to join the EU. But they thought that deal was crap, so they left thinking they could get a better deal.
FEMAcampsarereal
They were wrong.
sewrowhaywaythebeginning
Imagine Texas but smarter, now imagine Washington but dumber. Now imagine Texans being fed up with Washington.
jaakkopaakkonen
It sounds incredible British politicians would be smarter than Texans
CreateYourOwnNormality
Tories shut down every major industry in the left-wing voting, unionised North, and provided no support to recover. Then settled immigrants
CreateYourOwnNormality
into these already deprived areas, allowing the competition for jobs to cause hatred and racism. This swung the voters to the right.
CreateYourOwnNormality
Meanwhile, the EU would take the UK's dues, and distribute directly to the most deprived UK areas, ruining the plan. So the Govt used a
CreateYourOwnNormality
compliant racist press to blame the North's issues on immigrants and the EU. Once the swing was done, a vote to leave the EU was run, which
CreateYourOwnNormality
through the Leave campaign illegally spending more foreign money than allowed just about won, by a few %. Now the govt keeps the dues and
MC2018MC2018
EU: Undemocratic & racist political union & trade cartel that imposes 14% tariffs on poor African farmers. UK wanted out, even if painful.
parrais
African tariffs have always been nonsense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_but_Arms
ProppaGanda
lol I'm SURE that was the reason. Sure.
mikeymikec
The EU is as undemocratic as the UK is. Nor did Brexiteers vote for "poor African farmers". "Racism", LOL, just Brexiteers projecting.
DeborahMullen
LMAO. Is the House Of Lords democratically elected? ?
guigner
Lord Frost (Brexit negotiator) is an unelected member of cabinet. UK has no constitution, just an oath to dynastic monarchy. Democracy? Haha
toralisasam
Glad we left. Remain can only point to short-term economic pain - and their lack of access to Polish nannies - as reasons not to have left.
guigner
Point me towards one benefit arising from Brexit.
GnomeDeGuerre
...... Are you claiming that there will only be short-term economic pain or that nannies will be the only workers missing?
GnomeDeGuerre
lol
guigner
The UK cut its overseas aid this year. The only country to do so.
TheMagnificentSpud
Trade>Aid
guigner
Absolutely. Nowhere near the % as suggested. https://fullfact.org/economy/george-freeman-africa-eu-tariffs/
ProppaGanda
So it was just lies from Tories and UKIP? I'M SCHOCKED!
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Nanuek
Ha! I've heard of moving the goalposts, but half a century is quite a punt. I guess it's a neat way to avoid having to produce any evidence
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Mithi
Holy hell, that is a delusional take.
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toralisasam
The UK paid *vast* sums of money to be a member of a undemocratic stagnating trade bloc which bailed out corrupt members and flooded us 1/
MarioBoon
"undemocratic"? Mate, "House of Lords" tells you the mind your hypocrisy.
toralisasam
with unskilled labour, whilst also imposing strict rules and regs on us without us being given a proper vote. So we left.
WrongUn
My old man voted leave. His nursing home business of 30yrs got shut down because of EU regs so i understand his feelings. I didnt vote...
WrongUn
Leave, and I'm frustrated that my dad voted the future of the nation based on anti-reg reasons. That said its vital to remember that not...
WrongUn
Every leaver is a racist. We have family all over France and labeling everyone who voted leave automatically as racist is only as...
Eramik
Which runles and regs did you have an issue with?
superbadonkey
Paying staff a minimum wage and providing a reasonable standard of living for the elderly.
captainhappen
yeah how's that working out so far
Simonator
Even as someone who voted remain i have to admit i haven't personally noticed a difference.
Ricobe9
Sounds like you actually fell for Farage's nonsense
toralisasam
I worked in Brussels for two years, and the UK Parliament for one - I know plenty about how the EU *doesn't* work. I loathe it.
TheMagnificentSpud
And whose bullshit did you buy? David Cameron? JP Morgan? Goldman Sachs? Bob fucking Geldof?
Kakeukh
So did most who voted for it, so... You're not alone.
toralisasam
And remainers did? Half of Remain voters voted for it because they were lied to about WW3 and *millions* of job losses.
Gorgrim
Most of the leavers voted for it because they were lied to about all the benefits we'd suddenly have, which have yet to emerge.
parrais
WW3 claim was made up by Johnson and the tabloids
toralisasam
Oh honey: https://www.politico.eu/article/david-cameron-war-brexit-jean-claude-juncker-news-unforeseeable-consequences/
parrais
No mention of WW3 by Cameron there, honey.
ProppaGanda
Nobody does, especially those responsible for it.
GnomeDeGuerre
It was the inevitable rebellon of those not at the top of the pyramid.
ProppaGanda
Rebellion against what? Free trade? Or, heavens no, immigrants?
GnomeDeGuerre
Against sentiments shared in tabloids, a battery of negative emotions and the consequences of centralizing all wealth and power.
ProppaGanda
Shouldn't then they vote for Labour? Aren't the leaders of Brexit literally those who centralise all wealth and power?
Nanuek
Only those at the top will ever see any benefit from it
GnomeDeGuerre
Talking about it classwise yeah. If the "rebellion" emotions don't go further than this.
Ricobe9
It was certain people at the top that exploited the ignorance of those at the bottom to get them to vote leave
GnomeDeGuerre
Yep, but it wasn't a manipulation or circumstance that just happened.
Ricobe9
But they lied over and over. Even admitted some of the lies just an hour after the vote was over. And some people now learn of the benefits
DonalDangerMaher
If she said that she's even more of an insensitive bitch than the media were suggesting. I live in the UK but am willing to suffer if it 1/2
DonalDangerMaher
means I get to watch the dozy cunts who voted for brexit sitting slack jawed wondering the milk and honey went. Operation clusterfuck. 2/2
ApparentlyIcantcomeupwithavalidusername
The cunt said it
DonalDangerMaher
Fucking hell. Some piece of work. In an unrelated matter, does anyone have wood chipper with vertical feed hopper and a gantry/chain block?
Yellowboy66
She clearly didn't say it. It's mad that people are posting sources that they're not even bothering to read, as they just prove she didn't.
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DonalDangerMaher
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46488479 not verbatim perhaps, but still caused a shitstorm. Insensitive at the very least.
Yellowboy66
Caused a shit storm because that's literally these people's jobs. Make the most outrageous headlines possible to get the clicks.
DonalDangerMaher
BBC doesn't have adverts so doesn't benefit from clicks.
Yellowboy66
And the BBC doesn't claim anywhere that she threatened to starve the Irish.