I'm willing to bet at least 95% of those posts are foreign agents. Not saying we don't have violent whack jobs here, but people really underestimate just how much effort other countries are putting into destabilizing the US.
Unless this particular specimen believes the propaganda of Democrat-led cities being hellholes of crime and violence at the hands of illegal immigrants. In which case, s/h/it probably believes this is a perfectly likely scenario just from walking down the street in NYC.
This is all obvs true and on brand, but just saying don't just accept things as true if there is no link or even reference to where the article comes from or who wrote it. Be prepared for some serious disinfo coming our way to rile everybody up.
Yeah, I always call bullshit on any article posted here that crops out the website or authors name. Because 9 times out of 10 it’s some crap blog post that cites no references. “Trust me bro” is just as stupid no matter who does it.
I kind of hope many of them go for it, if they become violent, arrest them and throw them in jail too. Then they won't be able to vote for their master, in the same way that he can't vote now, too.
There were like 4 MAGAs protesting in front of the courthouse, tops. Maybe they should try another trucker convoy, that worked great the last few times
The delightful bit is rather than grumble quietly - they announce it online. In writing. Because the stupid motherfuckers think they're anonymous. Just in case anyone here doesn't know: you are not anonymous online. Pretty much ever. Not versus the nation-state you live in. Every single poster can be identified - easily - by their ISP. I know - I used to regularly get requests from law enforcement to do just that, including the Secret Service. It's not even difficult. It was routine.
Can you be anonymous? Yes - with non-trivial amounts of effort and skill. It requires knowledge of how the internet actually works and significant effort. A VPN alone is insufficient, despite what the ads would have you believe, against a nation-state. Compared to you, the US government has effectively unlimited resources, and law enforcement powers, and decades of experience. They can - and will - round up these bozos just like January 6th.
This is also true. It's also worth pointing out: identifying you online (and then selling that to advertisers) is google's business model. Unless you start out running a security-oriented OS and browser - google has already identified you, and a subpoena is easy to get.
What pisses me off more than anything is the ignorance with which they attack the justice system because it's not in their favor. Defending a rich, white man who's clearly too entitled to ever reap what he sows. Meanwhile, the legitimate injustices of our broken system that occur, these same idiots will justify or ignore. The justice system was just fine when it murdered Eric Garner, wasn't it? But your awful piss clown gets a slap on the wrist and you cry fowl?
I think you're missing the point. To them, the phrase "law and order" has only ever meant "enforce white supremacy" and so the idea of a rich white man facing any sort of punishment is beyond the pale, while a poor black man being murdered by police is completely fine and appropriate.
It is very telling that they never cared about horrible jail conditions until all the MAGAts got arrested for J6. It is absolutely a "It doesn't matter unless it happens to ME!" attitude that has been the common trope of the Republican for what seems like forever.
Thankfully, that can ended with a one year sentence - and it does sound absurd. However, the problem with that individual was he was a quad offender with prior felony, and continual repeat offender and a drug addict. That said, even the DA said the law was draconian.
Problem is, they apparently tried that - he had just...not gone. That's the hard question - how to get people to go to treatment if they think they don't need or want it.
On average addicts fail 7 times before they succeed. Changes in the approach to substance use disorder may help to continue to improve outcomes. One of the biggest barriers to success is a lack of access to realistic programs that treat the needs of the individual. I can promise you that a lot of programs law enforcement refers patients to are not accessible or tailored to the needs of the individual.
The central tenet of conservatism- there is an ingroup which the law protects but does not bind, and there is an outgroup which the law binds but does not protect.
They are fundamentally scared of everything. Like a dog, the ones that are scared will try and bite everything first. Look at Chihuahuas they are tiny and know they are in danger so they are huge assholes. Same for MAGA. They know they are the minority and they can't think of people treating them differently than they would treat other people so they are afraid and lash out. Trump lies to them and says he will keep them safe a common cult tactic. So they follow him without question.
They want an excuse to be violent. Enter trump. They like being angry. It can be an empowering feeling, especially to those with little or no self-awareness. Ultimately, it’s textbook projection. The things they despise are outlets for their rage at life or the universe or circumstance or whatever. They don’t know that it’s possible to control your own mind, choose what type of mood to be in. Zero emotional intelligence.
It is like babies throwing tantrums. They cannot get their way so they scream and yell and beat their fists on the floor. Kind of like Trump. The difference is that some of these babies have the ability to actually do harm. I think most of them just day dream about violence but just need a good nudge to push them over the line. There some though that are actively looking for a reason but for that group any reason would do.
Honestly, reporting on anonymous internet posts is the lowest form of "journalism" and the AP should be embarassed for signal boosting it. Treating interweb trolls as important public voices is clickbait and it's irresponsible.
It is literally a cult. It's why you can't debate them. They believe in a different reality with different rules and values. They need to be deprogrammed first, which usually starts with blocking their access to brainwashing-for-profit services that use the visual language of legitimate news to trick them into believing what they are being told is objective truth (OAN, Fox News, anything with the word "Patriot" in it, etc.).
Aren't threats of violence like this, against govt officials and such, supposed to be taken seriously? Like our freedom of speech only goes so far when ppl are threatening actual violence on person's on a social media? Surely it at least puts them on a watch list?
Technically, yes, actually threatening someone is against the law. That said, there's unlikely to be any consequences for most of these people given 1) the difficulty of having a law enforcement agency track them down, which for most of these sites is going to require a warrant, and 2) the fact that bringing charges based strictly on unfulfilled threats is going to take a lot of time and effort for a DA who might not want to risk losing.
They are. These bozos get identified and triaged and the ones deemed serious threats (priors or such) get handled. They're not anonymous by a longshot.
Exactly, its gotta be hilarious to be serving a warrant on the morons. Just the look on their stupid faces when they realize they don't have the $$$ to exist above the law and unlike their idol can't just go around threatening judges and politicians all willy nilly.
Thatd be funny, but the cops would have to actually be arresting the idiots. And to be perfectly honest, they're probably some of the ones posting this crap.
This is exactly what the supposed lefty pro violence types sound like too. The language is so close to identical it seems hard to reject the possibility that both the right wing violent agitators and the left wing violent agitators are the same people. наше здоровье? 干杯?
If you're trying to say that a massive campaign of threats, violence and harassment is equivalent to punching a nazi, then you're simply trying to excuse what is show above via a False Equivalence... if you DON'T think they are equivalent, then everything you've said is a lie, and does nothing except excuse the campaign of threats, violence and harassment shown above.
Either way, you're doing nothing but excusing what is shown above... which, contrary to what you might think, is just making it so those people feel that doing what they are doing is perfectly fine. Or, in other words.... "BotH SiDeS!!1!"
It is defensible to prepare for violence, especially when the right is calling for it, but indefensible to call for violence until voting is exhausted and violence is inescapable. Yes, I get "punch a nazi" but that's still vigilantism and while satisfying, even that is fraught. The problem is that the angry righteous types never consider the cost to the masses and insist they would embrace the same anger if they only knew. Instead they drive the masses to embrace "law and order" for survival.
Absolutely, an entirely valid and relevant comparison. Be ready, I said. Wanna look at Syria or Iraq or Libya or Somalia or... (too long a list to enumerate) and then come back to encouraging civil war? The people who suffer most have no involvement. War is a catastrophic last resort and while the left must be prepared if it comes to it and a show of strength is a valid deterrent to be guilty of inflicting it on society is unforgivable.
Laws are changed all the time and order is enforced by people who’s value can be questioned. What I was trying to say was, it’s more important to understand what you value and what’s worth fighting for.
I understand better what you meant, thanks. I agree it is important to understand what is worth fighting for, why a fight might be worth it, and to be clear eyed about what the costs will be.
Subtilico
Good. Lock them all up, so they can't vote.
DHTs
I'm willing to bet at least 95% of those posts are foreign agents. Not saying we don't have violent whack jobs here, but people really underestimate just how much effort other countries are putting into destabilizing the US.
Sullivanish
I wish every single one of these posters A Very Happy FBI and/or Secret Service Visit!
lackinglife
Well considering the turnout he has been having at his trial I'm sure they are all going to get off their couches and get right on it.
Seanspeed
Yea, they're pretty much just as feckless as Imgurians talking about 'eating the rich' and starting a revolution. lol
kamosey
FOX News. Russias greatest asset.
pothocket
Bring it on you stupid fucks.
savagesong
lol big mad.
RooGryphon
Go ahead... FAFO I will enjoy sering you magats all carted off in cuffs or carried out in a bag
georgejimmydoodle
Put me down for team bag.
Illithidbane
"Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete"? The irony of hating illegal immigrants/refugees, but defending an illegal fraud.
Nacon
lol a bunch of snowflakes.
mardukkur
Cry more, assholes.
brianglass10
Sounds criminal.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Nonono. They're WHITE AMERICAN CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES (WACCOS). They aren't criminal. They can't be.
DrPepper523
Nationalist Christians or Nat C's
FallingStar7669
"Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete" ... uh ... why would illegal immigrants support T****? Doin' me a heckin' confuse...
jimicus
Unless this particular specimen believes the propaganda of Democrat-led cities being hellholes of crime and violence at the hands of illegal immigrants. In which case, s/h/it probably believes this is a perfectly likely scenario just from walking down the street in NYC.
BlueCoyote42
Don't try to logic, my friend. Theirs is a Gordian Knot of stupid.
glovelyday
kittyfajitas
This is all obvs true and on brand, but just saying don't just accept things as true if there is no link or even reference to where the article comes from or who wrote it. Be prepared for some serious disinfo coming our way to rile everybody up.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/
SirKaill
That's what I was thinking, this seems like an outside influence using accounts to stir shit up.
SalmonMax
Thanks for this.
noReallyIamPrincessBob
daojones75
Yeah, I always call bullshit on any article posted here that crops out the website or authors name. Because 9 times out of 10 it’s some crap blog post that cites no references. “Trust me bro” is just as stupid no matter who does it.
BreakingHeadlines
They do that every time he loses.
upsidedownyhead
Fuxk them. Let them riot. They'll get rekt
Wardonk3y
They don't even realize that they are just proving the point that he absolutely should NOT be president.
cabalin
My MAGA neighbor has been feverishly working on finishing his battle couch. You should see it. Thing must have at least a dozen cup holders!
LuminoZero
Bring it on, you fascist shit stains.
sadurdaynight
Russian bots posing as republicans online stir civil war pot. Film at 11
mageninja
hmmmfascinating
cepacolusmaximus
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀
stoots24
Lol that kinda looks like the gif of Trump dancing!
weidermeijer
WE WANT IT NOW too, daddy. But Judge Cannon and the illegitimate Supreme Court are stopping us.
languex
tRump supporters:
jillofmanytrades
I kind of hope many of them go for it, if they become violent, arrest them and throw them in jail too. Then they won't be able to vote for their master, in the same way that he can't vote now, too.
KrebstarCorporation
There were like 4 MAGAs protesting in front of the courthouse, tops. Maybe they should try another trucker convoy, that worked great the last few times
swedeonamoose
How is that trucker boycott of NY going btw ? havent heard anything about it for ages
DumpsterSauce
There wasn't a trucker boycott, it was just that one guy that said he wasn't gonna go there. So obviously the whole city collapsed
mardukkur
It may surprise you to learn that I see many trucks here in NY. Curious.
swedeonamoose
Really shows how united the Trumper truckers are huh xD
duoplicity
Does the government put the right-wing nutsos on watch-lists, or only those on the left?
HtNrN
your left is my right :D
savagesong
I need to marry outside this country.
SmashySashimi
They used to, but at this point it might be easier to keep track of the harmless ones.
evilspock
The delightful bit is rather than grumble quietly - they announce it online. In writing. Because the stupid motherfuckers think they're anonymous. Just in case anyone here doesn't know: you are not anonymous online. Pretty much ever. Not versus the nation-state you live in. Every single poster can be identified - easily - by their ISP. I know - I used to regularly get requests from law enforcement to do just that, including the Secret Service. It's not even difficult. It was routine.
evilspock
Can you be anonymous? Yes - with non-trivial amounts of effort and skill. It requires knowledge of how the internet actually works and significant effort. A VPN alone is insufficient, despite what the ads would have you believe, against a nation-state. Compared to you, the US government has effectively unlimited resources, and law enforcement powers, and decades of experience. They can - and will - round up these bozos just like January 6th.
evilspock
Point being - if you must shit post: maybe nothing legally actionable, ok?
Hogwaller
Exactly!
Hogwaller
Seriously non-trivial amount of effort. The hellava thing is that level of anonymity stands out, and gets people interested in you.
evilspock
This is also true. It's also worth pointing out: identifying you online (and then selling that to advertisers) is google's business model. Unless you start out running a security-oriented OS and browser - google has already identified you, and a subpoena is easy to get.
mrmartini
What pisses me off more than anything is the ignorance with which they attack the justice system because it's not in their favor. Defending a rich, white man who's clearly too entitled to ever reap what he sows. Meanwhile, the legitimate injustices of our broken system that occur, these same idiots will justify or ignore. The justice system was just fine when it murdered Eric Garner, wasn't it? But your awful piss clown gets a slap on the wrist and you cry fowl?
naught101
That's not ignorance, my dude...
LtRooney
I think you're missing the point. To them, the phrase "law and order" has only ever meant "enforce white supremacy" and so the idea of a rich white man facing any sort of punishment is beyond the pale, while a poor black man being murdered by police is completely fine and appropriate.
NappaTheFriendlyGhost
They are trying to make it illegal in my state to be within 25 feet of a police officer. Fuck all this bullshit.
circlebreaker
TippLite
It is very telling that they never cared about horrible jail conditions until all the MAGAts got arrested for J6. It is absolutely a "It doesn't matter unless it happens to ME!" attitude that has been the common trope of the Republican for what seems like forever.
whitegirlcanteven
Surely, the leopards will never eat MY face!
RueandWoe
Thankfully, that can ended with a one year sentence - and it does sound absurd. However, the problem with that individual was he was a quad offender with prior felony, and continual repeat offender and a drug addict. That said, even the DA said the law was draconian.
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/candy-thief-jacobia-grimes-gets-1-year-sentence-more-prison-time-looms/article_1332457b-bee3-5078-8e8a-648602d7cb82.html
dogedogegiraffedoge
Yep. Drug addiction should not warrant prison time or consideration for prison time ever. It should be treated as the medical condition it is.
RueandWoe
Problem is, they apparently tried that - he had just...not gone. That's the hard question - how to get people to go to treatment if they think they don't need or want it.
dogedogegiraffedoge
On average addicts fail 7 times before they succeed. Changes in the approach to substance use disorder may help to continue to improve outcomes. One of the biggest barriers to success is a lack of access to realistic programs that treat the needs of the individual. I can promise you that a lot of programs law enforcement refers patients to are not accessible or tailored to the needs of the individual.
RueandWoe
I buy that consideration - we need more resources that can adapt in that area.
PhloydPhan
But I thought Republicans always talked about being the party of law and order? /s
Munchman347
Rep-Cons, 'Our right to make the laws and give you orders...'
METROlD
Yeah, orderly raping everyone's daughters.
KuldFyt
The central tenet of conservatism- there is an ingroup which the law protects but does not bind, and there is an outgroup which the law binds but does not protect.
CeterumCenseo
Not that law and order!
AeonQuasars
Only when it benefit them
orp0piru
They've been the soft-on-crime party for quite a while now.
Sebastopol140
Hahaha no.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
tHe LeFt ArE tHe ViOlEnT oNeS!!1!~
johnnyhandbags
They are only the party of order, as defined and enforced by them. They don't give a shit about laws.
sadurdaynight
Hey, if he did nothing wrong he's got nothing to fear, right? Why is he resisting? Only guilty people plead the 5th
GreatOdinsTaint
They are a party with one value - power. "Law and order" is just a smoke screen phrase that's slightly more socially acceptable.
historycat
Law for others, Order for them.
houghten
"talked about" is the key phrase there.
ThatRaccoonGuy
What doesn't enrage them to violence? It's almost like something is wrong with these people
Nikolai5
Yeah these nutters are really missing out on the wonder of being content with life.
Schitzoflink
They are fundamentally scared of everything. Like a dog, the ones that are scared will try and bite everything first. Look at Chihuahuas they are tiny and know they are in danger so they are huge assholes. Same for MAGA. They know they are the minority and they can't think of people treating them differently than they would treat other people so they are afraid and lash out. Trump lies to them and says he will keep them safe a common cult tactic. So they follow him without question.
MissSiesta
Good comparison
graehall
Seriously, is it a day that ends with y? Someone being treated fairly and with equality causes them to be outraged and call for violence ffs
CallMeMcGyver
Milk and cookies would probably enrage these motherfuckers… anger is the air they breathe.
FillMyPrescriptions
They want an excuse to be violent. Enter trump. They like being angry. It can be an empowering feeling, especially to those with little or no self-awareness. Ultimately, it’s textbook projection. The things they despise are outlets for their rage at life or the universe or circumstance or whatever. They don’t know that it’s possible to control your own mind, choose what type of mood to be in. Zero emotional intelligence.
AMercer
It is like babies throwing tantrums. They cannot get their way so they scream and yell and beat their fists on the floor. Kind of like Trump. The difference is that some of these babies have the ability to actually do harm. I think most of them just day dream about violence but just need a good nudge to push them over the line. There some though that are actively looking for a reason but for that group any reason would do.
AgainstMethod
Honestly, reporting on anonymous internet posts is the lowest form of "journalism" and the AP should be embarassed for signal boosting it. Treating interweb trolls as important public voices is clickbait and it's irresponsible.
VikingsAreNinjaPirates
It is literally a cult. It's why you can't debate them. They believe in a different reality with different rules and values. They need to be deprogrammed first, which usually starts with blocking their access to brainwashing-for-profit services that use the visual language of legitimate news to trick them into believing what they are being told is objective truth (OAN, Fox News, anything with the word "Patriot" in it, etc.).
guitarfourtysix
well said
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
The Patriot missile system does not do that
MadamPuddifoot
They need a patriot missile to the face
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Why use expensive missile when cheap fist does trick
SrPootStank
They're not gonna do anything. After seeing all the Jan 6 people go to prison, they are just talk now. Most of them anyways.
Redshadow09
to much ingesting lead and or mercury in the water
DrPepper523
Aren't threats of violence like this, against govt officials and such, supposed to be taken seriously? Like our freedom of speech only goes so far when ppl are threatening actual violence on person's on a social media? Surely it at least puts them on a watch list?
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Technically, yes, actually threatening someone is against the law. That said, there's unlikely to be any consequences for most of these people given 1) the difficulty of having a law enforcement agency track them down, which for most of these sites is going to require a warrant, and 2) the fact that bringing charges based strictly on unfulfilled threats is going to take a lot of time and effort for a DA who might not want to risk losing.
RadioactiveNerfDart
You can be very sure that law enforcement is very busy today making arrangements to contact the people who posted those threats.
Callynd
They are, but they're going to be asking how they can help. Some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses and all.
evilspock
They are. These bozos get identified and triaged and the ones deemed serious threats (priors or such) get handled. They're not anonymous by a longshot.
kickahippie
Exactly, its gotta be hilarious to be serving a warrant on the morons. Just the look on their stupid faces when they realize they don't have the $$$ to exist above the law and unlike their idol can't just go around threatening judges and politicians all willy nilly.
faeros
That's gonna be a tv series within 2 years
bolshevikmuppet
Thatd be funny, but the cops would have to actually be arresting the idiots. And to be perfectly honest, they're probably some of the ones posting this crap.
gesel
This is exactly what the supposed lefty pro violence types sound like too. The language is so close to identical it seems hard to reject the possibility that both the right wing violent agitators and the left wing violent agitators are the same people. наше здоровье? 干杯?
crazaProblemStar
"Both Sides!!1!"
gesel
Don't be like them, then it is only them. Act like them, fail like them.
crazaProblemStar
If you're trying to say that a massive campaign of threats, violence and harassment is equivalent to punching a nazi, then you're simply trying to excuse what is show above via a False Equivalence... if you DON'T think they are equivalent, then everything you've said is a lie, and does nothing except excuse the campaign of threats, violence and harassment shown above.
crazaProblemStar
Either way, you're doing nothing but excusing what is shown above... which, contrary to what you might think, is just making it so those people feel that doing what they are doing is perfectly fine. Or, in other words.... "BotH SiDeS!!1!"
nsJunkspace
Could be but sometimes it is not hard to see what’s right and wrong. Just a matter of picking your values.
gesel
It is defensible to prepare for violence, especially when the right is calling for it, but indefensible to call for violence until voting is exhausted and violence is inescapable. Yes, I get "punch a nazi" but that's still vigilantism and while satisfying, even that is fraught. The problem is that the angry righteous types never consider the cost to the masses and insist they would embrace the same anger if they only knew. Instead they drive the masses to embrace "law and order" for survival.
JustAlex94
Wanna look at Germany's history and then come back to your post?
gesel
Absolutely, an entirely valid and relevant comparison. Be ready, I said. Wanna look at Syria or Iraq or Libya or Somalia or... (too long a list to enumerate) and then come back to encouraging civil war? The people who suffer most have no involvement. War is a catastrophic last resort and while the left must be prepared if it comes to it and a show of strength is a valid deterrent to be guilty of inflicting it on society is unforgivable.
nsJunkspace
Laws are changed all the time and order is enforced by people who’s value can be questioned. What I was trying to say was, it’s more important to understand what you value and what’s worth fighting for.
gesel
I understand better what you meant, thanks. I agree it is important to understand what is worth fighting for, why a fight might be worth it, and to be clear eyed about what the costs will be.