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Sep 10, 2018 7:59 PM
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robrudewastaken
Sounds a bit hack-ish
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NapoleonTrousersnakeBonaparte
InfocalypseRising
Yeah, we're already past this point but we're too busy calling everything racist to notice.
BeenThereSeenThat
Dont forget to vote on Tuesday, November 6, 2018... If you want HIM out!
Normalface
But that's not what happened is it? That's what the Democrats are doing right now. Socialism and destroying the electorial college.
InvasiveSpecious
When logic and proportion have fallen, softly dead, and the white knight is talking backwards, and the red queen's off with her head...
DavidCowie
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch - Ben Franklin. Well,that escalated quickly.
teadsa
Wonder if it's because the US isn't a democracy
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Plutocratic oligarchy. The policy wishes of the average American have zero statistical weight on policy direction. Studies prove this.
elcee50
William F. Buckley (who called Trump a narcissist and demagogue) is probably turning in his grave at what his movement has become
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Buckley would literally, no exaggeration, shoot himself in the fucking face. But to be fair the modern GOP would be an unthinkable
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Embarrassment to anyone even 6 years ago.
PutThePRNDLinD
When you've already tossed civility and reality, this isn't too big a leap...
bartybastly
How have they tossed civility?
69thStPepper
I like that reality didn't come up in the objection
bartybastly
Because it's out of the question. Go on, give an example
ScrewYouAndTheDildoYouRodeInOn
just think.... when was the last time they won the popular vote? 20 years? 30?
NoGiraffeHero
Just think, when was the last time Democrats complained about the system when they won?
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
14 years ago
ForRohan
Yeah, Kerry was a Clinton like candidate. Competent, experienced and completely uninspiring.
StarvingGarbage
Clinton was bad all around.
NoGiraffeHero
Then why is it the left that complains about how our election system works whenever it doesn't work out in their favor?
SteveMND
As if the Right doesn't also bitch when things don't match what they want.
NoGiraffeHero
Sure, but shouldn't you be concerned about it regardless of who wins? Unless you're suggesting the left never circumvents democracy.
SteveMND
I am; I've never thought the EC nor most-popular is the best way to handle US elections. I'm far more in favor of some sort of Single /1
SteveMND
2/ Transferable Vote system than the one we have currently.
NoGiraffeHero
That works when you're trying to fill multiple positions at once, but really wouldn't work for heads of state (no nation use it for that)
NoGiraffeHero
Also is this why the left was so happy to have the issue of gay marriage decided by appointed judges instead by popular vote of the people?
DeadVogonPoetsSociety
I forgotten, when was hetero-marriage voted in?
NoGiraffeHero
And therefore what? You're still more than happy to circumvent democratic systems when it works in your favor.
DeadVogonPoetsSociety
Being a giraffe, I guess it's easier to get your head up your ass.
NoGiraffeHero
Well, I guess you've convinced me with your dazzling intellect, and wit.
DeadVogonPoetsSociety
Vidikron
Well, since close to 70% approve now, up from 52% in 2014. Looks like the judges paid attention to the popular views.
NoGiraffeHero
So, you would disagree with the assertion that the circumvention of democratic processes is a conservative mode of operation?
Vidikron
My assertion is that the ruling of marriage equality coincides with the popular opinion.
NoGiraffeHero
So? It was being voted on state by state through majority vote, but in the end only 9 out of 325 million people's votes counted.
NoGiraffeHero
You can talk about popular opinion all you want, still wasn't a democratic decision.
Vidikron
I didn't get to vote to allow corporations to be considered as people and contribute unlimited to campaigns, but here we are.
MadCat221
Aww, are you upset that you aren't allowed to impose backwards morals on those who don't want to subscribe to them?
NoGiraffeHero
No, but thank you for helping to illustrate that the circumvention of democracy isn't a conservative issue.
MadCat221
So denial of rights based on religiously based moralities codified into law ( which is unconstitutional BTW) should be decided by votes?
NoGiraffeHero
It wouldn't be democratic if it wasn't would it?
MadCat221
New laws were not made by the court. Unconstutional laws were struck down and their prohibitions were instead explicltly made permitted.>
MadCat221
Or laws that deprive the Equal Protection Under Law clauses also in the COTUS? These were happening. Every time they were challenged in a>
MadCat221
>State-level court, they fell based on unconstutionality of the laws. SCOTUS decided once and for all nation-wide. So yeah, your grievance>