That doesn't seem very accurate. It's more like being tied to a chair and watching a toddler playing with the safety controls of a factory as worker after worker gets eaten by machines.
Who knows, Trump could have a heart attack any time now. And with him gone, MAGA becomes an uncontrollable voter base. Because they only collectively listened to Trump. They have no loyalty to any of the other shits. And without that many of the GOP, who hated Trump but sucked up to him because they feared voter push back, might actually grow the tiniest backbone and stop being fascist bootlickers.
Have you seen Venezuela? After Hugo Chavez died, the vice president Nicolas Maduro just had to say Chavez trusted him with the nation in a dream and people bought that. I can see Musk doing the same if Trump dies.
See, the thing is, Musk and Vance aren't overly popular with all of MAGA. People find them off-putting, and they are both bad at public speaking and just acting like normal people. MAGA currently likes them because Trump currently likes them. But without Trump to shore up that acceptance, they will start to be swayed by others in the MAGA movement. If someone is going to take over the cult, they need to have the right level of charisma. And none of them have that.
Not really, some people just want to be a single term, or they just didn't work well together. Lots of reasons to change things up. Though in Pence's cases, nearly getting lynched likely acted as a good motivator.
Well, I'm convinced they never have to go out and vote again. So I hope for them they are super happy with what is going on because it'll only get worse.
Under Biden and the Democrats "the good guys", the wealth gap between the 1% and the working class grew even wider, Blackrock still buying up single family homes, still no healthcare, still insane student debt financially kneecapping generations, and we are all closer to being corporate slaves where our wages are being outpaced by the cost of living. What big picture problems did they solve? Please remind me, because I feel betrayed.
One of the big ones that I remember got ousted the second Trump came into office was capping insulin at like $35 or something. That was a big step in the right direction for healthcare. But obviosuly, within weeks of Trump taking office, that same insulin is now back up to like $500.
It seems like most people forget that the Dems are a pro-capitalist party. The types of things you are proposing will go against the capitalist system in the US. So when people say that the Dems are the good guys, it's more about being the better option in a country with shitty options. And it needs to be remembered that the US citizens are socially and religiously conservative while also being extremely capitalistic/individualistic in their economic views. Biden was as good as possible.
If the corporate dems were honest, they'd admit they only passed small tweaks to the system under Biden. And this will hold as long as the Democratic Party refuses to stop taking bribes. Types like Bernie and AOC who refuses corporate money are outliers. Groundbreaking transformative bills like Build Back Better Act were proposed. But since margins were thin, the rich just slap some democrat with a wad of cash, and they'd immediately water down or cripple such bills.
Well, the Chips act and Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act were both on track to bring back large amounts of work for the working class. Would have helped reshore large amounts of industrial jobs from overseas. Rebuilt the grid for clean renewable energy, which would have made thousands of new jobs. Helped to start fixing and replacing the USA's infrastructure such as bridges, which will save untold amounts of lives from them collapsing. ->
Biden's Government did a lot, the problem was they never talked about any of it. They did a lot of shit that people would be very happy to hear about, and they never brought it up. The biggest failing of his Government was in their communications department. As they didn't champion their wins.
Thank you for the reply, the chips act is a good point. I'm just getting very frustrated with our politicians and I'm lashing out, I think I need to go for a walk.
It's fair, Biden did a lot of good, but could have fought harder for more. And the current Government, if you can even call it a Government, is a shit show. Your frustrations are valid. But don't allow them to cloud your mind, that's part of what they want. For you to get so angry, you stop thinking clearly. And only by thinking clearly can they be properly countered.
They did talk about it as leftists either weren't paying attention or casually dismissed these legislative accomplishments under Biden. I've done my fair share of educating leftists on this and oh boy they do not like to hear good news. It gets in their way of virtue signaling if Democrats are capable of doing good and this is why Republicans keep winning so easily.
Left hating corporate dems don't want you to know that they let $15 minimum wage die because of a non-binding ruling by an unelected official they appointed. They killed bill that would've cemented voting rights federally because they didn't want to mark the bill as filibuster proof. They slowly destroyed a bill establishing paid family/medical leave, free community college, free pre-k, and more. And then they have to gall to brag about passing the shameful dregs of once transformative bills.
By they didn't really talk about it, even during the election when both Biden and Harris were running, neither really made big points about it. If it had been Trump, it would have been all he talked about. They seemed to get too distracted about countering Trump that they didn't properly sell what they had achieved while in government.
Biden fan here, and this is all wonderful, but where is the part where taxes on the rich were significantly increased? How is this stuff being paid for without that happening?
Infrastructure bill was a step in the right direction. But let's be clear the way government is structured if you play by it's rules solving big picture problems isn't a 4 or even 8 year process. And with half the country voting in "privatize everything no taxes for the rich candidates" getting anything done is impressive
yes, the USA was all sunshine and roses with 0 problems when senile biden was in charge lmfao. Trump is a first class clown, but let's not be delusional here. Oh wait, too late.
oh yah revival of the econowoe trolls! It is an old lie, but it was effective in its day. Give the GRU credit, they did manage to convince an awful lot of Americans that up was down.
Look, Biden wasn't perfect, his response to Gaza being the worst, but comparing him with either of Trump's administrations and yes, it was practically a utopia in comparison.
Now I may not have been paying close enough attention, but I just don't seem to recall Biden illegally kneecapping public institutions and handing off classified data to unelected billionaires
Under Biden and the Democrats "the good guys", the wealth gap between the 1% and the working class rapidly grew even wider, Blackrock still buying up single family homes, still no healthcare, still insane student debt financially kneecapping generations, and we are all closer to being corporate slaves where our wages are being outpaced by the cost of living.
He actually did alright with what was handed to em republicans have been systematically destroying the government since the 80s and dems have to roughly stich it back each time. The problem is in net everything gets worse
Really, I thought they would be more concerned about the fact Trump wants to ethnically cleanse them and take their land and occupie it for America. Which is what he said he wants to do.
The key is the technocrats and Libertarians talking about law exempt free towns/regions. They will literally start building cyberpunk company towns by then.
I said that when you guys voted for Mango Mussolini the first time around, and I thought it was bad back then already.. I was soo glad to be wrong, and thought it was getting better. Another 4 years, with how the last 3 months were going already? I'm expecting some kind of war or a major, national catastrophe until the end of the year. I'm feeling so bad for all the innocent people in the US though.
75 million fascist will not just disappear in 4 years and the rest of the world will remember and act accordingly for decades even if you don't elect another red in multiple consecutive elections.
That is not true. Germany survived 2 world wars and horrible things. The country is a name on a map. The question is how many PEOPLE will survive 4 years of this.
Yep. The intentional dissolution of our core institutions will destory this nation. And what's left will be ruled by oligarchs and policed by paramilitary jackboots
US elections have been flawed for a long time, e.g. gerrymandering, voter suppression, unrestricted privatized media, bribing (exacerbated by Citizens United), and the electoral, 'winner-takes-all' and two-party political systems.
Together these have made the US especially vulnerable for a authoritarian/fascist take-over.
Russia and China are already competing for the resources of Africa, and the EU also has to diversify its trade partners, now that USA joined the ugly authoritarian club
Utah makes me laugh, because they have no clue that they’re on the list for extermination like everyone else, and if they knew their own fucking history, it’d be really fucking obvious.
leviaton
Need some crashing airplanes
4thwalled
invokeme
i think author means something anti-democratic, or mb im wrong
Shawnofavitch
Somebody get a DeLorean quick, Trump's second term has us stuck in the second Arc of Biffs, "Back to the Future" timeline.
NoMoreMorons
TickTockDeadMan
And there are people who happily gave that toddler a gun, and will do so again.
Boksha
That doesn't seem very accurate. It's more like being tied to a chair and watching a toddler playing with the safety controls of a factory as worker after worker gets eaten by machines.
RobBobertyYT
A toddler would probably stop shooting people eventually.
IceWeaselX
A toddler would be shitting its pants and screaming after the first gunshot, dropping and possibly kicking the scary gun away.
IgnisInvictus
62 days. It took 62 days. We're in for a rough baby- zombie-esque time.
Targe0
Who knows, Trump could have a heart attack any time now. And with him gone, MAGA becomes an uncontrollable voter base. Because they only collectively listened to Trump. They have no loyalty to any of the other shits. And without that many of the GOP, who hated Trump but sucked up to him because they feared voter push back, might actually grow the tiniest backbone and stop being fascist bootlickers.
Wolfwod
Have you seen Venezuela? After Hugo Chavez died, the vice president Nicolas Maduro just had to say Chavez trusted him with the nation in a dream and people bought that. I can see Musk doing the same if Trump dies.
Targe0
See, the thing is, Musk and Vance aren't overly popular with all of MAGA. People find them off-putting, and they are both bad at public speaking and just acting like normal people. MAGA currently likes them because Trump currently likes them. But without Trump to shore up that acceptance, they will start to be swayed by others in the MAGA movement. If someone is going to take over the cult, they need to have the right level of charisma. And none of them have that.
greentights
Same with Pence arguably. Isn't it weird for presidents to pick a different VP at re-election?
Targe0
Not really, some people just want to be a single term, or they just didn't work well together. Lots of reasons to change things up. Though in Pence's cases, nearly getting lynched likely acted as a good motivator.
GrandmasterSpank
Just 12 weeks ago...
Yakuzi
ballsoutflyer
...when people could have gone and voted strategically. But it was too much of a bother.
GrandmasterSpank
Well, I'm convinced they never have to go out and vote again. So I hope for them they are super happy with what is going on because it'll only get worse.
MrBitches
Under Biden and the Democrats "the good guys", the wealth gap between the 1% and the working class grew even wider, Blackrock still buying up single family homes, still no healthcare, still insane student debt financially kneecapping generations, and we are all closer to being corporate slaves where our wages are being outpaced by the cost of living. What big picture problems did they solve? Please remind me, because I feel betrayed.
Zalm
One of the big ones that I remember got ousted the second Trump came into office was capping insulin at like $35 or something. That was a big step in the right direction for healthcare. But obviosuly, within weeks of Trump taking office, that same insulin is now back up to like $500.
freshthrowaway1138
It seems like most people forget that the Dems are a pro-capitalist party. The types of things you are proposing will go against the capitalist system in the US. So when people say that the Dems are the good guys, it's more about being the better option in a country with shitty options. And it needs to be remembered that the US citizens are socially and religiously conservative while also being extremely capitalistic/individualistic in their economic views. Biden was as good as possible.
neutronparticle
If the corporate dems were honest, they'd admit they only passed small tweaks to the system under Biden. And this will hold as long as the Democratic Party refuses to stop taking bribes. Types like Bernie and AOC who refuses corporate money are outliers. Groundbreaking transformative bills like Build Back Better Act were proposed. But since margins were thin, the rich just slap some democrat with a wad of cash, and they'd immediately water down or cripple such bills.
Targe0
Well, the Chips act and Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act were both on track to bring back large amounts of work for the working class. Would have helped reshore large amounts of industrial jobs from overseas. Rebuilt the grid for clean renewable energy, which would have made thousands of new jobs. Helped to start fixing and replacing the USA's infrastructure such as bridges, which will save untold amounts of lives from them collapsing. ->
Targe0
Biden's Government did a lot, the problem was they never talked about any of it. They did a lot of shit that people would be very happy to hear about, and they never brought it up. The biggest failing of his Government was in their communications department. As they didn't champion their wins.
MrBitches
Thank you for the reply, the chips act is a good point. I'm just getting very frustrated with our politicians and I'm lashing out, I think I need to go for a walk.
Targe0
It's fair, Biden did a lot of good, but could have fought harder for more. And the current Government, if you can even call it a Government, is a shit show. Your frustrations are valid. But don't allow them to cloud your mind, that's part of what they want. For you to get so angry, you stop thinking clearly. And only by thinking clearly can they be properly countered.
Zeddicuszull
They did talk about it as leftists either weren't paying attention or casually dismissed these legislative accomplishments under Biden. I've done my fair share of educating leftists on this and oh boy they do not like to hear good news. It gets in their way of virtue signaling if Democrats are capable of doing good and this is why Republicans keep winning so easily.
neutronparticle
Left hating corporate dems don't want you to know that they let $15 minimum wage die because of a non-binding ruling by an unelected official they appointed. They killed bill that would've cemented voting rights federally because they didn't want to mark the bill as filibuster proof. They slowly destroyed a bill establishing paid family/medical leave, free community college, free pre-k, and more. And then they have to gall to brag about passing the shameful dregs of once transformative bills.
Targe0
By they didn't really talk about it, even during the election when both Biden and Harris were running, neither really made big points about it. If it had been Trump, it would have been all he talked about. They seemed to get too distracted about countering Trump that they didn't properly sell what they had achieved while in government.
Zeddicuszull
But they did talk about it. Constantly. You and other leftists were just not listening.
MrPoopcicle
From a couple months before the election
Theslipofashipcansinkalip
Biden fan here, and this is all wonderful, but where is the part where taxes on the rich were significantly increased? How is this stuff being paid for without that happening?
mostlyrottenadvice
Never got a chance to change the tax plan Trumps expires this year if it hasn't already
mostlyrottenadvice
Infrastructure bill was a step in the right direction. But let's be clear the way government is structured if you play by it's rules solving big picture problems isn't a 4 or even 8 year process. And with half the country voting in "privatize everything no taxes for the rich candidates" getting anything done is impressive
MrBitches
Thank you for your reply
NuggetThief
yes, the USA was all sunshine and roses with 0 problems when senile biden was in charge lmfao. Trump is a first class clown, but let's not be delusional here. Oh wait, too late.
gesel
oh yah revival of the econowoe trolls! It is an old lie, but it was effective in its day. Give the GRU credit, they did manage to convince an awful lot of Americans that up was down.
dontrike
Look, Biden wasn't perfect, his response to Gaza being the worst, but comparing him with either of Trump's administrations and yes, it was practically a utopia in comparison.
SoGrosslyIncandescent
Now I may not have been paying close enough attention, but I just don't seem to recall Biden illegally kneecapping public institutions and handing off classified data to unelected billionaires
MrBitches
Under Biden and the Democrats "the good guys", the wealth gap between the 1% and the working class rapidly grew even wider, Blackrock still buying up single family homes, still no healthcare, still insane student debt financially kneecapping generations, and we are all closer to being corporate slaves where our wages are being outpaced by the cost of living.
Batman1702
So "rapidly" under Biden, what is it now "Ludacris speed" go!?!
mostlyrottenadvice
He actually did alright with what was handed to em republicans have been systematically destroying the government since the 80s and dems have to roughly stich it back each time. The problem is in net everything gets worse
iceburglettuceinsea
Palestians want a word with you
Targe0
Really, I thought they would be more concerned about the fact Trump wants to ethnically cleanse them and take their land and occupie it for America. Which is what he said he wants to do.
dontrike
Yeah guys, "Palestians" really are doing better now with Trump at the helm.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
The US will not survive 4 years of this.
HandoB4Javert
battery1979
At this rate, I'm not sure we'll survive one.
zFUBARz
The key is the technocrats and Libertarians talking about law exempt free towns/regions. They will literally start building cyberpunk company towns by then.
PhobianDarkmoon
Oh it'll survive. It'll just be a democracy in name only and a blight upon the world, unless we get very lucky.
jbrightmans
Said someone since Thomas Jefferson's first term starting in 1801.
sothisishowashitpostfeelslike
I'm hoping humanity will.
Eucrow
I would argue that the US has not survived.
ForCryingOutLoud
I mean... even if it does it will continue exactly the same after 4 years. Your dictator won't give the power away ever again.
michiyl
"UINO" - united in name only
khora
Not _exactly_ the same. As the country disintegrates his options for what to do narrows.
GuyFromDeathValley
I said that when you guys voted for Mango Mussolini the first time around, and I thought it was bad back then already.. I was soo glad to be wrong, and thought it was getting better.
Another 4 years, with how the last 3 months were going already? I'm expecting some kind of war or a major, national catastrophe until the end of the year. I'm feeling so bad for all the innocent people in the US though.
pumper
75 million fascist will not just disappear in 4 years and the rest of the world will remember and act accordingly for decades even if you don't elect another red in multiple consecutive elections.
monkeyman512
That is not true. Germany survived 2 world wars and horrible things. The country is a name on a map. The question is how many PEOPLE will survive 4 years of this.
Ffudmethen
The fires have only happened to Tesla vehicles
So far, gigafactories, SpaceX and everything else needs to burn as well
Mxlespxles
Yep. The intentional dissolution of our core institutions will destory this nation. And what's left will be ruled by oligarchs and policed by paramilitary jackboots
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
Four years? Try last -week-.
DVSBSTrD
Only the Confederacy.
RadishIsAMeat
The fact people think this ends in 4 years is laughable, you've seen your last fair election in our lifetime.
SuperLuminalMan
Nah, you'll see fair elections... on TV, from real countries.
Leithoa
The US as we know it is definitely collapsing. Whatever exists in 4 years will be a different country(ies)
mckjm2
Yep, Trump outright said 'You'll never have to vote again'
WhyDontYouMakeMe
There's still time to change it, but the opportunity to change without violence is rapidly passing
Yakuzi
* the last 'fair-ish' election.
US elections have been flawed for a long time, e.g. gerrymandering, voter suppression, unrestricted privatized media, bribing (exacerbated by Citizens United), and the electoral, 'winner-takes-all' and two-party political systems.
Together these have made the US especially vulnerable for a authoritarian/fascist take-over.
phisteen
I have hope that I will survive to see the next fair election in 30 to 40 years
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
The election was rigged.
khora
Even if the country is saved, the empire is lost.
michiyl
Russia and China are already competing for the resources of Africa, and the EU also has to diversify its trade partners, now that USA joined the ugly authoritarian club
Leithoa
*have been for decades & USAID had been holding them back (not that the US was doing it out of benevolence)
khora
The American population won't stay passive as the Russians or the Chinese. Will they fight others or themselves is the question?
Subtilico
To me it seems more likely that after a final trigger point, 1 or more states secede, than that the central power falls.
GenStrike
That much we can be thankful for. The USA was not a force for good in the world.
DVSBSTrD
sharK11
North East is Poland?
OhIfIMust
South Canada
OhIfIMust
Utah makes me laugh, because they have no clue that they’re on the list for extermination like everyone else, and if they knew their own fucking history, it’d be really fucking obvious.
eathotdog
Mormonism being basically a us centric Christian Fanfic, its surprising that more american Christian nutjobs aren't on board with it
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Image needs updating. NV, AZ, WI, MI, and PA decided to join the Republican shit show.