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crateo
Wait, it looks that one scientist is helping the police to drag a random guy and another is waiting in the cell for his "next experiment"...
masterfinch1
To be fair there are some $#!t journalists out there
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
DrEhrfurchtgebietend
Pretty sure the journalists are leading the charge of call out culture
lawideas
Liberalism is a much bigger threat to freedom than anything you're bitching about. We're basically going through a second McCarthyism phase
timxedge
First they put away the dealers.Keep our kids safe and off the streets.Then they put away the prostitutes.Keep married men cloistered athome
Then they shooed away the bums. Then they beat and bashed the queers. Turned away asylum-seekers. Fed us suspicions and fears
We didn't raise our voice. We didn't make a fuss. It's funny there was no one left to notice...When they came for us
alfmeister6227
How come the politicians are always left till last?
Neboskrebnut
Because invading army had to level most of the conscripts before it makes it to the government building
KibblesandBitchTits
Divide and conquer
patrickleodesign
Exactly. Neither side cares about us, and if they can keep us fighting each other, they reap the benefits. (Donations, fund raising, etc.)
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
If only there was a third side... one that didn’t completely suck. Or maybe one could be started for 2024.
JillOfAllTrades9000
Doomed to repeat. I understand removing historically negative images, statues, shows etc but I think they also serve a purpose in educating
missnye
Which is why you're supposed to update history books for school.... but you know....money.
Absolutely! For lack of a better word white washing history though doesn't help anyone. Learning from the past f-ups does.
DesirousYeti
This some Maurice Ogden, Hangman kinda shit?
nelsonrr
If they come for you in the night they'll come for me in the morning
A2DY79
And yet, Fauci admitted that they initially downplayed the efficacy of wearing masks, so the government/hospitals could hoard them first.
So it seems like blindly trusting journalists or self-proclaimed experts isn't always the best course of action.
OrionRed
Those were DIFFERERNT types of masks!!! Used for protecting the wearer. The masks now of to protect others. Geez I'm sick of this one.
OtterlyMagnificent
The problem is, between Fauci, the CDC, and WHO, they can't keep their facts straight, and keep making DRASTIC shifts to their instructions1
that effectively say 'We were 100% wrong before' like there's never been any sort of virus or airborne illness before in the history of the2
human race. And then they do it again. And again. It just doesn't add up.3/3
TheGrayBox
Oh no, almost like every other subject in medical research. Clearly all scientists are in on the conspiracy /s
But it does. You're just picking different aspects to compare. Also, the "story" changes as the evidence builds up. error bars reduce.
The problem is, if they were trying to guess a number (1-100) based on the given information, their first guess was 100, and their second1/
RoboCoonie
Fascist America starting.
Starting? They're quite a few strides into the race already.
Oh yes, but the two people that downvoted me don't want us to know that.
"but her emails!" - the fascists who downvoted you.
pppppppppppppppppp23
Then they came for the ignorant and they cheered because...well
Flodos
As the US eats itself, China wets itself laughing, Russia sighs in relief, and n. Korea continues its yapping.
crankyoldgeezer
*Russia rejoices.
drepark78
This administration labels science as non fact. Journalists as liars.Putin , Duerte, Kim,and every other " strong man" has said the same.
It’s funny bc they love simple sound bites, yet ignore: “If it quacks like a duck...”
craigskene
“Years ago they tried to...” “Years ago they tried to...” “Years ago they tried to....”
Ogri
Conspiracy theories exist to make dumb people feel smart.
kalka44
what? who is going after porn industry?
WE WILL STAND UNITED to save it! We just don't want to pay for it...
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Old farts who hate humans being humans.
madspinner
We cheered because they said "protests and riots make you immune from coronavirus so go ahead and gather by the thousands!"
dalaiyoda
I'm having some trouble with crows in my fields. Do you think you could come and build me a strawman to scare them off? Or are you too busy?
grhope
Literally no one said that...
ahhhhtomzilla
First they put away the dealers, keep our kids safe and off the street. Then they put away the prostitutes
Btw( former speaker of the house John Boehner is now partners in a huge pot company.)
keep married men cloistered at home. Then they shooed away the bums, then they beat and bashed the queers, turned away asylum-seekers,
fed us suspicions and fears. We didn't raise our voice, we didn't make a fuss.
It's funny there was no one left to notice when they came for us.
Well said
Nofx - regaining unconsciousness
zyxzevn
Check the scientists, doctors and journalists banned on youtube, because they exposed corruption.
RadicalLeftist
No, because they spread conspiracies. If one scientist says something its worthless without peer review or a consensus.
NegentropyX
Then they came for the opinionated who had mocked the other intellectuals, and the masses cried out, “What took you so long. Good riddance”
funknuckle
Sounds like trumps picks to lead the CDC
Artimak
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/
Given OAN's position as anything but the bottom-right of the chart, Imma have to call bullshit on this one.
5. though. Most people unhappy with this research are on the right. They hate seeing CNN (and even MSNBC) rated more reliably than Fox.
2. deservedly wallowing in the bottom right corner. That said, I'm not sure your call has validity without you having read the methodology
1. It's a little surprising that they're positioned around the same area as Fox. Breitbart is further down, naturally, and Info Wars is
6. Oh, and by "the source itself" I mean OAN. Now that they're on the Mango's radar, they're moving further & further right to please him.
4. further to that corner, as the source itself has skewed further into conspiracy theory garbage. It's interesting that's your entire focus
3. used for placement. The entire chart is also updated regularly as new stories are published. It wouldn't surprise me to see OAN shift
mektel
From what I could tell in 30 secs of searching they weren't blind evals. I'd have much preferred that, but good on them regardless.
This is the most thoroughly researched work I've seen on the subject, and I've been looking for years.
traumapatient
I didn’t know poste was French for fuck- but I guess you learn something new. Thank you imgur
theonewithadream
Underrated +1
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
The problem here is that it's not that they dislike evidence of their stupidity, it's that they don't understand how stupid they are, and -
willingly keep it that way. They are so dumb that they can't begin to comprehend the intellectual information given to them. However, -
their stupidty comes with arrogance and self confidence. So if they don't understand it, they think the intellectuals are the dumb ones.
By saying "they don't like evidence of their stupidity" you are giving them way too much credit and saying they are aware they are dumb.
Clarissimus
No one is coming for scientists or journalists. This isn't North Korea. This isn't even Red China.
jazzwicket
Doesn't mean literally locking them up. But scientists are routinely ignored in the US even at great risk & cost of life (ie. climate...
...change, COVID) and journalists have been targeted recently just for covering the protests.
Why hasnt the u.s acted on climte change?
BrilliantButCowardly
Because it’s a hoax /s
Haha. Everythings a hoax if you reject science for youtubers
jmonster2020
Journalists have been shot in the face with rubber bullets
Wasn't there a Trump supporter that attacked a news outlet?
And you think that's tantamount to Nazis rounding them up and putting them in death camps?
It isn't. I believe it's a start towards those kind of atrocities though.
Potatopeelerkind
Well, they didn't do that on day one. Even if it never gets that bad it's best not to head down that road.
CriticalCritic
...the fuck? No one said anything like that.
Are familiar with the "first they came for the X" format? It's not talking of collateral damage from riot control.
VitaminJay
Journos are being singled out in demonstrations and ?ARE? BEING?SHOT? IN ?THE ?FUCKING ?FACE, ?YOU?COLOSSAL? TOASTRACK!?
tenaciousjeebs
I don’t know what toastrack means but I love it and I’m adopting it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_rack
Right but to use it as an insult? That’s next-level
I thank you.
VarriksTheLoyal
Here, you gotta fill out some paperwork for adopting it
ZandarianBloodfang
The right and the left thinks this is the other.
bigsteve31sk8
There's the false equivalency again.
MIMIK128
And the middle just looks at them both like they're idiots.
UnitedGalactic
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
https://thr.cm/6cxEA41
LightningMcQueef
Christian Scientists don’t count bro.
Eh? Lots of religious scientists put "scientist" before their own personal beliefs. If they dont, they tend to get disproven for faking shit
Look up Christian Scientists
TrojanGiraffe
Do americans realize that most of the developed world thinks that the hard right of the US are insane ideological idiots?
armenite
So do a majority of Americans.
It's both, but I think more so on the right
Galk
oh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgAt-OuCU3E&t=7s
Give it some time and someone will comment that they think it's more on the left.
There are ignorant people on both sides, I think there may be more on the other side. My coworker thinks Trump is the second coming of Jesus
And he's 100% serious
Yeah.. That guy is not breeding with anyone, right?
DrLOAC
The thing about bothsiders (TM) is they think they are neutral because they think both sides are the same. The fun part is they objectively1
Have to downplay the positives and talk up the negatives of one side while downplaying the negatives and talking up the positives of the 2/
Other in order to make them “equal”. This makes them in fact horribly biased.
Thx! Well said!
In my opinion, you're all equally worthless..
HonestCommentFarmer
WorkerBey
Yeah i think thats their point
Well that’s why I try and avoid stereotypes and racism. There’s so many reasons to dislike someone on a personal level. No need for them
MasterOfTheUnoverse
You’re the problem. Just assuming everything wrong with the world is a republican. Think for yourself and not what your party wants.
mReid69
Independent here...and u rethuglicans *ARE* the problem.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
So independent
Very, tyvm. Seen very few on either side that could be trusted with a tin can, much less a political post, but *FUCK* those thuglicans SUCK
The elitist are the problem. Not left... not right... the people in charge
The rich who own the politicians are the problem bit face it one party is 100% owned by big biz.
They're both owned by "Big Biz." I'm far left, ut even I can realize that both sides are 100% owned. There is good on both sides
I do. I love Obamacare which has helped my small firm.
Me to! Except that it made it a requirement to have insurance so all insurance companies raised their prices and completely fucked small
Businesses!! I loved it too!!!
TeamSpicyTacos
Well, this is about scientists, where are most of those in your spectrum? Which party routinely ignores scientific facts?
7357
Exactly! There are only two sexes. The sexes are physically and psychologically different. Absent father more detrimental than poverty. etc.
Sensenotsocommon
Depends on the topic.
Used to be the right when they were all religious. But you see more and more lefty people going on about 1/
How sex does not matter and that biology does not matter. Saying that transexual men are literally men and that their biology does notmatter
Okay, let's pretend that's real and not make believe victimhood. Who got voted into office on such beliefs. (Hint, none.)
What are you even talking about?
I mean, I can go on, but I'm sure you get the point.
ThenWhatHappened
Lol you gave one example. And not a great one. There are many instances of all different kinds of animals displaying other-gender behavior
No, please go on about how there are only two biological sexes, and then anyone with a pulse can point you to the reasons why that is false
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
PrivateThrasher
First they came for the pixels in that picture.
Its just because its in a comment. If you click it the image is pretty good
They can have the commies and the unions. Let me know when they come for the jews and I'll grab my gun to fight back.
radioFREEmadras
Are you opposed to ALL unions?
Sorry he can only research unions on the weekend.
FourLegsGood
It's weird that right wingers hate democracy.
Because that's my democracy. And I don't care that I didn't learn actual definition on school.
Your democracy is to limit democracy? Are you genuinely retarded?
Celebrating your own ignorance is pretty pathetic my dude.
Was that too vague for sarcasm on internet? What the shit?
Next time end it with an /s for sarcasm.
dashthefox
Then you have completely failed to understand what the poem is about
So you do know what mccarthyism was right? Anyones a commie if you want then to be. Funny how right wingers only care about freedom of 1/2
Their own ideologies. Yet they ban opposing parties. Funny how that works. 2/2
Burke616
Username relevant.
superkingthebestoneofthethree
punk rock version: First they put away the dealersKeep our kids safe and off the streetsThen they put away the prostitutes
Keep married men cloistered at homeThen they shooed away the bums Then they beat and bashed the queersTurned away asylum-seekers
Fed us suspicions and fearsWe didn't raise our voiceWe didn't make a fussIt's funny there was no one left to noticeWhen they came for us
Its weird that theres a growing group of revisionist historians who think Nazis were actually socialists.
Nuttsy
Nits: a) It's a science, it's meant to be revisionist! b) Not historians; propagandists. c) The advertising stuck to folk back then, too.
Isn't humanism was the origin of all main ideologies from past 200 years. And it's like religious branches interpreting same thing different
Fascism was a response to & rejection of the liberal democracies and communist revolutionaries. So technically yes, if you count that...
religion spawning an anti-theist movement, to continue your simile.
sykoticflaw
Wait does that mean that the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea isn't actually a Democratic Republic
Dasgovernator
They're socialists in the same sense that Muslims are Jews. Came from the same place, have a lot in common, but differences are key.
morelikeconsham
Fascists and socialists are opposites. One is the far right and one is the far left. One centralizes power in a dictator and one distributes
power to the working class.
only90skidswillgetthis
How would you describe libertarians?
Normal, not left-libertarian?
chiechien
"Fuck you I got mine"
Basically modern-day Laissez-Faire Mercantilists
Man, there's a ton of ignorance about Fascism's origins around this thread. I'll just leave this & go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Not you RadicalLeftist, you're good.
Hey buddy ive been called worse then ignorant and to be fair i'm not super informed about fascism and socialism I just look for 1/2
Expert consensus and then some broad explanations.
pakz
They were exactly what they were labeled...
Fascists, yes.
DangerTrain
Ignorance is a bullet shot at everything that gets in the way of what you believe.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
"Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have (1)
stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists." - Hitler, from a 1923 interview. (2)
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1
Sprixxen
Yeah, Hitler hated the international socialism of the time. He wanted to apply its principle to JUST Germans. Hence "National Socialism".
Type17
The Nazi's were socialists like the Democratic People's Republic of (north) Korea is a democracy because it's in the name
JustRegisteredToLeaveThisComment
facebook historians
TetsuoooKanedaaaTetsuoooKanedaaa
Like the people saying China is communist?
Yeah its kinda weird that. I stopped seeing china as communist when it opened its markets but i havent looked st it properly.
Ocek
People seem to forget that Nazis were parroting the very strong socialist movement that happened in Germany. Look up Rosa Luxembourg for
example. People see Germany and they only think Nazis, but in reality some of the most progressive, leftist thinkers of the time were there.
And then murdered so the nazi party could advance its agenda
It's purposeful. The right bought into the red scare so badly that they are attempting to equate any economic theory other than an
unregulated free market with dictatorships. Was hitler a dictator? He must have been a communist. Is Trump a communist? If not, he can't be
a dictator.
They actually were socialists. Nazism was a deeply collectivist ethos. It's why it appealed to naturally collectivist Germans.
Nazis/National Socialism was different from Mussolini and Franco's fascism in several important ways (Anti Church, Monarchy, etc).
To all the people downvoting me: I am NOT smearing social democrats/Christian socialists. But the Nazis WERE fundamentally collectivist.
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinreview/word-for-word-case-against-nazis-hitler-s-forces-planned-destroy-german.html
CyborgScribe
Of you can bring me proof that your stance is the general consensus of historians I'll admit you are right.
Also: The Nazis were anti-monarchy/anti-Church, which differed from Mussolini/Franco 'true' fascism.
Seeing as the difference between fascists and socialists was a major point in my college WW2 classes I have doubts.
Py0tr77
Night of the Long Knives (June 30 ,1934). They purged members of the leftist-leaning Strasserist faction of the Nazi Party and anti-Nazis.
Look. 'Socialists' come in far left (communist), far right (NAZIS, not so much fascists) and center (modern social demos, hated by both).
Youre simply wrong. No respectful historian comes to that conclusion
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
Why are you downvoting me? Just because they purged the left-most Nazis of the RIGHT-WING socialist group, doesn't make them less socialist.
Because youre incorrect https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
The people downvoting me are completely ignorant of history and equating all socialists with modern social democrats.
Or maybe they are downvoting you because you are wrong. My grandfather was a 17 y.o socialist when they invaded. Heard the stories 1st hand
I am not claiming your grandfather was a nazi. But there was more than one 'brand' of socialism in history. WW2 was partly fought over it.
You're being way too defensive about your father's Christian Socialism. I am NOT trying to smear social democrats. Don't be so defensive.
ElroydIsGone
If you also agree, that there are different kinds of democracy, and the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (aka north korea) is also >
I am not claiming that the Nazis practiced doctrinaire socialism. They perverted it as they perverted everything. But they were collectivist
a democracy, just a different one than our's (the west's), I might agree, that National Socialism is just a different form of socialism.
The mistake is claiming they were social democrats. Which they absolutely weren't. (modern 'socialist' euro parties are social democrats).
https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
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onlypetunia
No read about it , they removed the socialist factions of the party early on
A socialist has control of production for the people, Nazis controlled production for the state. Do you understand the difference?
DrMaggot
I mean they were but only for those they deemed acceptable. And even then, it only worked for a short time thanks to militaristic industry.
And to fund it they stole and enslaved people
Seru666
GooteMoo
Holy Christ people are fucking stupid. Who helps these people tie their shoes in the morning? Someone must.
ShiftingPattern
George de Mestral.
magicrhombus
PVTdumpsterbandit
"NaTiOnAl SoCIaLiStS"
tanebot
You know the rule about countries with "democratic" or "republic" in the name...
mrui
And, not or. The more the better, "Peoples Republic" or "Democratic Republic" or the best. "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
mto96
Germany is actually called federal republic Germany in german mother language
Best are the "people's democracies" in name, like, the people's rule of the people, yeah, that's even double peopley, so it must be good.
Like the Popular Peoples' Front of Judea!
The exception is The Most Serene Republic of San Marino. They're actually pretty chill.
StopCallingMeIAmNotYourBrother
Went there as part of my honeymoon, awesome place.
WhiteVanNoChildrenAllowed
I mean, if they fucking rejected Napoleon's offer of growth & access to the sea, you know they're fucking serious about their serenity.
BetYouWontBanMeAgain
Or "united"
GamingMule
United Kingdom seems to be bucking that trend.
The Split Down The Middle States of America just doesn't have the same ring to it
"The People's United Democratic Republic of Kingdoms"
Doing the upper lower thing makes you look like a retard.
AreYouMyGuppy
That’s... that’s the point.
sockshoesockshoe
Um. See any picture of Spongebob captioned in that style...
DoInG tHe UpPeR lOwEr ThInG mAkEs YoU lOoK lIkE a ReTaRd.
zeethenomad
It's literally supposed to be "dumb guy voice."
Calling people the "R-word" makes you an actual peice of shit.
"R-word" you're a child
"i can't be the bad guy because I call myself the good guy"
TisIChenoir
I call myself the "True Freedom Bringer Party". Sure I exterminated everyone but me, but I'm free now.
LuminousExpanse
it's an oversimplification of what fascism was. fascism inspired by communism as they first guy who developed the idea was an understudy 1/
of Marx. but he thought the idea would be better within an identitarian, national setting instead of a raceless, borderless one. hence the2/
term "Nationalist Socialist." Socialism within nationalism. that's why every fascist state thus far has been race-oriented focusing on 3.
the "purity" of their national identity.
jlinks87
If you want to get technical, the fascist economic model is neither strictly capitalist or socialist. It espouses corporatism, which 1/?
is similar to socialism in that it involves the creation of a sort of upgraded trade union system, where aspects of the economy are 2/?
divided into key industries each controlled by a syndicate of employers, workers, and government ministers. Essentially the economy is 3/?
under the direct control of the state a la (kind of) socialism. Of course the nationalistic element predominates, and fascist economies 4/?
I mean, they were. It just was socialism for one particular race. In stark comparison to the international socialism of the time.
If you want to be disturbed and get into the philosophy of Hitler, read Mein Kampf. He uses socialist rhetoric all the time.
He was basically an ultra-pragmatist who combined elements of socialism, militarism, fascism, and race theory to take over.
TLDR for Mein Kampf: He defends trade unions, talks about German bourgeois excess, promotes social welfare programs, etc.
alchaeus12
There was socialist rhetoric and some Socialist paramilitary w/ the fascists but was phased out well before they came to national power
And by "phased out" we mean they were all killed in the Night of the Long Knives.
imgonnahurtu
Hitler actually inserted himself into the socialist party, even though he hated socialism. He then took it over, but kept the followers.
This isn't true and it's been disproven by dispassionate historians. The Nazis were the definition of far right socialists.
Don't confuse socialists with social democrats, which is what modern European social parties are. The Nazis weren't social democrats.
everydayrobot
Socialism is a very broad term. Technically a Social Democrat falls under that umbrella
The Nazi 'social justice' program was a deeply collectivist one with no private life allowed. Everything was in the public sphere.
It appealed to many Germans, who are a naturally collectivist-leaning people. The error is confusing socialists with social democrats.
The Nazis were DEFINITELY not social democrats, and modern 'socialist' parties are social democrats, not true socialists.
ApplebottomGene
tHeY hAd SoCiAliSt RiGhT tHeRe iN tHe NaMe! Fucking idiots.
Thanks, im off to vote in the republic of north korea
^democratic peoples can't forget that part they can't be there bad guys cause obviously they call themselves the good guys duh
LordSmokedMeatsAndFishes
Not just the republic, the DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S Republic of North Korea.
Good point. It's like I was only viewing it from one specific perspective
crateo
Wait, it looks that one scientist is helping the police to drag a random guy and another is waiting in the cell for his "next experiment"...
masterfinch1
To be fair there are some $#!t journalists out there
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
DrEhrfurchtgebietend
Pretty sure the journalists are leading the charge of call out culture
lawideas
Liberalism is a much bigger threat to freedom than anything you're bitching about. We're basically going through a second McCarthyism phase
timxedge
First they put away the dealers.Keep our kids safe and off the streets.Then they put away the prostitutes.Keep married men cloistered athome
timxedge
Then they shooed away the bums. Then they beat and bashed the queers. Turned away asylum-seekers. Fed us suspicions and fears
timxedge
We didn't raise our voice. We didn't make a fuss. It's funny there was no one left to notice...When they came for us
alfmeister6227
How come the politicians are always left till last?
Neboskrebnut
Because invading army had to level most of the conscripts before it makes it to the government building
KibblesandBitchTits
Divide and conquer
patrickleodesign
Exactly. Neither side cares about us, and if they can keep us fighting each other, they reap the benefits. (Donations, fund raising, etc.)
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
If only there was a third side... one that didn’t completely suck. Or maybe one could be started for 2024.
JillOfAllTrades9000
Doomed to repeat. I understand removing historically negative images, statues, shows etc but I think they also serve a purpose in educating
missnye
Which is why you're supposed to update history books for school.... but you know....money.
JillOfAllTrades9000
Absolutely! For lack of a better word white washing history though doesn't help anyone. Learning from the past f-ups does.
DesirousYeti
This some Maurice Ogden, Hangman kinda shit?
nelsonrr
If they come for you in the night they'll come for me in the morning
A2DY79
And yet, Fauci admitted that they initially downplayed the efficacy of wearing masks, so the government/hospitals could hoard them first.
A2DY79
So it seems like blindly trusting journalists or self-proclaimed experts isn't always the best course of action.
OrionRed
Those were DIFFERERNT types of masks!!! Used for protecting the wearer. The masks now of to protect others. Geez I'm sick of this one.
OtterlyMagnificent
The problem is, between Fauci, the CDC, and WHO, they can't keep their facts straight, and keep making DRASTIC shifts to their instructions1
OtterlyMagnificent
that effectively say 'We were 100% wrong before' like there's never been any sort of virus or airborne illness before in the history of the2
OtterlyMagnificent
human race. And then they do it again. And again. It just doesn't add up.3/3
TheGrayBox
Oh no, almost like every other subject in medical research. Clearly all scientists are in on the conspiracy /s
OrionRed
But it does. You're just picking different aspects to compare. Also, the "story" changes as the evidence builds up. error bars reduce.
OtterlyMagnificent
The problem is, if they were trying to guess a number (1-100) based on the given information, their first guess was 100, and their second1/
RoboCoonie
Fascist America starting.
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Starting? They're quite a few strides into the race already.
RoboCoonie
Oh yes, but the two people that downvoted me don't want us to know that.
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
"but her emails!" - the fascists who downvoted you.
pppppppppppppppppp23
Then they came for the ignorant and they cheered because...well
Flodos
As the US eats itself, China wets itself laughing, Russia sighs in relief, and n. Korea continues its yapping.
crankyoldgeezer
*Russia rejoices.
drepark78
This administration labels science as non fact. Journalists as liars.Putin , Duerte, Kim,and every other " strong man" has said the same.
crankyoldgeezer
It’s funny bc they love simple sound bites, yet ignore: “If it quacks like a duck...”
craigskene
“Years ago they tried to...” “Years ago they tried to...” “Years ago they tried to....”
Ogri
Conspiracy theories exist to make dumb people feel smart.
kalka44
what? who is going after porn industry?
Neboskrebnut
WE WILL STAND UNITED to save it! We just don't want to pay for it...
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Old farts who hate humans being humans.
madspinner
We cheered because they said "protests and riots make you immune from coronavirus so go ahead and gather by the thousands!"
dalaiyoda
I'm having some trouble with crows in my fields. Do you think you could come and build me a strawman to scare them off? Or are you too busy?
grhope
Literally no one said that...
ahhhhtomzilla
First they put away the dealers, keep our kids safe and off the street. Then they put away the prostitutes
crankyoldgeezer
Btw( former speaker of the house John Boehner is now partners in a huge pot company.)
ahhhhtomzilla
keep married men cloistered at home. Then they shooed away the bums, then they beat and bashed the queers, turned away asylum-seekers,
ahhhhtomzilla
fed us suspicions and fears. We didn't raise our voice, we didn't make a fuss.
ahhhhtomzilla
It's funny there was no one left to notice when they came for us.
crankyoldgeezer
Well said
ahhhhtomzilla
Nofx - regaining unconsciousness
zyxzevn
Check the scientists, doctors and journalists banned on youtube, because they exposed corruption.
RadicalLeftist
No, because they spread conspiracies. If one scientist says something its worthless without peer review or a consensus.
NegentropyX
Then they came for the opinionated who had mocked the other intellectuals, and the masses cried out, “What took you so long. Good riddance”
funknuckle
Sounds like trumps picks to lead the CDC
Artimak
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Given OAN's position as anything but the bottom-right of the chart, Imma have to call bullshit on this one.
Artimak
5. though. Most people unhappy with this research are on the right. They hate seeing CNN (and even MSNBC) rated more reliably than Fox.
Artimak
2. deservedly wallowing in the bottom right corner. That said, I'm not sure your call has validity without you having read the methodology
Artimak
1. It's a little surprising that they're positioned around the same area as Fox. Breitbart is further down, naturally, and Info Wars is
Artimak
6. Oh, and by "the source itself" I mean OAN. Now that they're on the Mango's radar, they're moving further & further right to please him.
Artimak
4. further to that corner, as the source itself has skewed further into conspiracy theory garbage. It's interesting that's your entire focus
Artimak
3. used for placement. The entire chart is also updated regularly as new stories are published. It wouldn't surprise me to see OAN shift
mektel
From what I could tell in 30 secs of searching they weren't blind evals. I'd have much preferred that, but good on them regardless.
Artimak
This is the most thoroughly researched work I've seen on the subject, and I've been looking for years.
traumapatient
I didn’t know poste was French for fuck- but I guess you learn something new. Thank you imgur
theonewithadream
Underrated +1
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
The problem here is that it's not that they dislike evidence of their stupidity, it's that they don't understand how stupid they are, and -
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
willingly keep it that way. They are so dumb that they can't begin to comprehend the intellectual information given to them. However, -
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
their stupidty comes with arrogance and self confidence. So if they don't understand it, they think the intellectuals are the dumb ones.
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
By saying "they don't like evidence of their stupidity" you are giving them way too much credit and saying they are aware they are dumb.
Clarissimus
No one is coming for scientists or journalists. This isn't North Korea. This isn't even Red China.
jazzwicket
Doesn't mean literally locking them up. But scientists are routinely ignored in the US even at great risk & cost of life (ie. climate...
jazzwicket
...change, COVID) and journalists have been targeted recently just for covering the protests.
RadicalLeftist
Why hasnt the u.s acted on climte change?
BrilliantButCowardly
Because it’s a hoax /s
RadicalLeftist
Haha. Everythings a hoax if you reject science for youtubers
jmonster2020
Journalists have been shot in the face with rubber bullets
Jepalaudsadsin
Wasn't there a Trump supporter that attacked a news outlet?
Clarissimus
And you think that's tantamount to Nazis rounding them up and putting them in death camps?
Jepalaudsadsin
It isn't. I believe it's a start towards those kind of atrocities though.
Potatopeelerkind
Well, they didn't do that on day one. Even if it never gets that bad it's best not to head down that road.
CriticalCritic
...the fuck? No one said anything like that.
Clarissimus
Are familiar with the "first they came for the X" format? It's not talking of collateral damage from riot control.
VitaminJay
Journos are being singled out in demonstrations and ?ARE? BEING?SHOT? IN ?THE ?FUCKING ?FACE, ?YOU?COLOSSAL? TOASTRACK!?
tenaciousjeebs
I don’t know what toastrack means but I love it and I’m adopting it.
VitaminJay
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_rack
tenaciousjeebs
Right but to use it as an insult? That’s next-level
VitaminJay
I thank you.
VarriksTheLoyal
Here, you gotta fill out some paperwork for adopting it
ZandarianBloodfang
The right and the left thinks this is the other.
bigsteve31sk8
There's the false equivalency again.
MIMIK128
OtterlyMagnificent
And the middle just looks at them both like they're idiots.
UnitedGalactic
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
https://thr.cm/6cxEA41
LightningMcQueef
Christian Scientists don’t count bro.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Eh? Lots of religious scientists put "scientist" before their own personal beliefs. If they dont, they tend to get disproven for faking shit
LightningMcQueef
Look up Christian Scientists
TrojanGiraffe
Do americans realize that most of the developed world thinks that the hard right of the US are insane ideological idiots?
armenite
So do a majority of Americans.
Jepalaudsadsin
It's both, but I think more so on the right
Galk
oh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgAt-OuCU3E&t=7s
ZandarianBloodfang
Give it some time and someone will comment that they think it's more on the left.
Jepalaudsadsin
There are ignorant people on both sides, I think there may be more on the other side. My coworker thinks Trump is the second coming of Jesus
Jepalaudsadsin
And he's 100% serious
ZandarianBloodfang
Yeah.. That guy is not breeding with anyone, right?
DrLOAC
The thing about bothsiders (TM) is they think they are neutral because they think both sides are the same. The fun part is they objectively1
DrLOAC
Have to downplay the positives and talk up the negatives of one side while downplaying the negatives and talking up the positives of the 2/
DrLOAC
Other in order to make them “equal”. This makes them in fact horribly biased.
crankyoldgeezer
Thx! Well said!
ZandarianBloodfang
In my opinion, you're all equally worthless..
HonestCommentFarmer
WorkerBey
Yeah i think thats their point
DrLOAC
Well that’s why I try and avoid stereotypes and racism. There’s so many reasons to dislike someone on a personal level. No need for them
crankyoldgeezer
MasterOfTheUnoverse
You’re the problem. Just assuming everything wrong with the world is a republican. Think for yourself and not what your party wants.
mReid69
Independent here...and u rethuglicans *ARE* the problem.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
So independent
mReid69
Very, tyvm. Seen very few on either side that could be trusted with a tin can, much less a political post, but *FUCK* those thuglicans SUCK
MasterOfTheUnoverse
The elitist are the problem. Not left... not right... the people in charge
crankyoldgeezer
The rich who own the politicians are the problem bit face it one party is 100% owned by big biz.
Jepalaudsadsin
They're both owned by "Big Biz." I'm far left, ut even I can realize that both sides are 100% owned. There is good on both sides
crankyoldgeezer
I do. I love Obamacare which has helped my small firm.
MasterOfTheUnoverse
Me to! Except that it made it a requirement to have insurance so all insurance companies raised their prices and completely fucked small
MasterOfTheUnoverse
Businesses!! I loved it too!!!
TeamSpicyTacos
Well, this is about scientists, where are most of those in your spectrum? Which party routinely ignores scientific facts?
7357
Exactly! There are only two sexes. The sexes are physically and psychologically different. Absent father more detrimental than poverty. etc.
Sensenotsocommon
Depends on the topic.
ZandarianBloodfang
Used to be the right when they were all religious. But you see more and more lefty people going on about 1/
ZandarianBloodfang
How sex does not matter and that biology does not matter. Saying that transexual men are literally men and that their biology does notmatter
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Okay, let's pretend that's real and not make believe victimhood. Who got voted into office on such beliefs. (Hint, none.)
ZandarianBloodfang
What are you even talking about?
ZandarianBloodfang
I mean, I can go on, but I'm sure you get the point.
ThenWhatHappened
Lol you gave one example. And not a great one. There are many instances of all different kinds of animals displaying other-gender behavior
tenaciousjeebs
No, please go on about how there are only two biological sexes, and then anyone with a pulse can point you to the reasons why that is false
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
PrivateThrasher
First they came for the pixels in that picture.
RadicalLeftist
Its just because its in a comment. If you click it the image is pretty good
madspinner
They can have the commies and the unions. Let me know when they come for the jews and I'll grab my gun to fight back.
radioFREEmadras
Are you opposed to ALL unions?
RadicalLeftist
Sorry he can only research unions on the weekend.
FourLegsGood
It's weird that right wingers hate democracy.
Neboskrebnut
Because that's my democracy. And I don't care that I didn't learn actual definition on school.
FourLegsGood
Your democracy is to limit democracy? Are you genuinely retarded?
RadicalLeftist
Celebrating your own ignorance is pretty pathetic my dude.
Neboskrebnut
Was that too vague for sarcasm on internet? What the shit?
RadicalLeftist
Next time end it with an /s for sarcasm.
dashthefox
Then you have completely failed to understand what the poem is about
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
So you do know what mccarthyism was right? Anyones a commie if you want then to be. Funny how right wingers only care about freedom of 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Their own ideologies. Yet they ban opposing parties. Funny how that works. 2/2
Burke616
Username relevant.
superkingthebestoneofthethree
punk rock version: First they put away the dealers
Keep our kids safe and off the streets
Then they put away the prostitutes
superkingthebestoneofthethree
Keep married men cloistered at home
Then they shooed away the bums Then they beat and bashed the queers
Turned away asylum-seekers
superkingthebestoneofthethree
Fed us suspicions and fears
We didn't raise our voice
We didn't make a fuss
It's funny there was no one left to notice
When they came for us
RadicalLeftist
Its weird that theres a growing group of revisionist historians who think Nazis were actually socialists.
Nuttsy
Nits: a) It's a science, it's meant to be revisionist! b) Not historians; propagandists. c) The advertising stuck to folk back then, too.
Neboskrebnut
Isn't humanism was the origin of all main ideologies from past 200 years. And it's like religious branches interpreting same thing different
HonestCommentFarmer
Fascism was a response to & rejection of the liberal democracies and communist revolutionaries. So technically yes, if you count that...
HonestCommentFarmer
religion spawning an anti-theist movement, to continue your simile.
sykoticflaw
Wait does that mean that the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea isn't actually a Democratic Republic
Dasgovernator
They're socialists in the same sense that Muslims are Jews. Came from the same place, have a lot in common, but differences are key.
morelikeconsham
Fascists and socialists are opposites. One is the far right and one is the far left. One centralizes power in a dictator and one distributes
morelikeconsham
power to the working class.
only90skidswillgetthis
How would you describe libertarians?
morelikeconsham
Normal, not left-libertarian?
chiechien
"Fuck you I got mine"
HonestCommentFarmer
Basically modern-day Laissez-Faire Mercantilists
HonestCommentFarmer
Man, there's a ton of ignorance about Fascism's origins around this thread. I'll just leave this & go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
HonestCommentFarmer
Not you RadicalLeftist, you're good.
RadicalLeftist
Hey buddy ive been called worse then ignorant and to be fair i'm not super informed about fascism and socialism I just look for 1/2
RadicalLeftist
Expert consensus and then some broad explanations.
pakz
They were exactly what they were labeled...
RadicalLeftist
Fascists, yes.
DangerTrain
Ignorance is a bullet shot at everything that gets in the way of what you believe.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
"Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have (1)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists." - Hitler, from a 1923 interview. (2)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1
Sprixxen
Yeah, Hitler hated the international socialism of the time. He wanted to apply its principle to JUST Germans. Hence "National Socialism".
Type17
The Nazi's were socialists like the Democratic People's Republic of (north) Korea is a democracy because it's in the name
JustRegisteredToLeaveThisComment
facebook historians
TetsuoooKanedaaaTetsuoooKanedaaa
Like the people saying China is communist?
RadicalLeftist
Yeah its kinda weird that. I stopped seeing china as communist when it opened its markets but i havent looked st it properly.
Ocek
People seem to forget that Nazis were parroting the very strong socialist movement that happened in Germany. Look up Rosa Luxembourg for
Ocek
example. People see Germany and they only think Nazis, but in reality some of the most progressive, leftist thinkers of the time were there.
RadicalLeftist
And then murdered so the nazi party could advance its agenda
morelikeconsham
It's purposeful. The right bought into the red scare so badly that they are attempting to equate any economic theory other than an
morelikeconsham
unregulated free market with dictatorships. Was hitler a dictator? He must have been a communist. Is Trump a communist? If not, he can't be
morelikeconsham
a dictator.
A2DY79
They actually were socialists. Nazism was a deeply collectivist ethos. It's why it appealed to naturally collectivist Germans.
A2DY79
Nazis/National Socialism was different from Mussolini and Franco's fascism in several important ways (Anti Church, Monarchy, etc).
A2DY79
To all the people downvoting me: I am NOT smearing social democrats/Christian socialists. But the Nazis WERE fundamentally collectivist.
A2DY79
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinreview/word-for-word-case-against-nazis-hitler-s-forces-planned-destroy-german.html
CyborgScribe
Of you can bring me proof that your stance is the general consensus of historians I'll admit you are right.
A2DY79
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinreview/word-for-word-case-against-nazis-hitler-s-forces-planned-destroy-german.html
A2DY79
Also: The Nazis were anti-monarchy/anti-Church, which differed from Mussolini/Franco 'true' fascism.
CyborgScribe
Seeing as the difference between fascists and socialists was a major point in my college WW2 classes I have doubts.
Py0tr77
Night of the Long Knives (June 30 ,1934). They purged members of the leftist-leaning Strasserist faction of the Nazi Party and anti-Nazis.
A2DY79
Look. 'Socialists' come in far left (communist), far right (NAZIS, not so much fascists) and center (modern social demos, hated by both).
RadicalLeftist
Youre simply wrong. No respectful historian comes to that conclusion
A2DY79
Nazis/National Socialism was different from Mussolini and Franco's fascism in several important ways (Anti Church, Monarchy, etc).
RadicalLeftist
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
A2DY79
Why are you downvoting me? Just because they purged the left-most Nazis of the RIGHT-WING socialist group, doesn't make them less socialist.
RadicalLeftist
Because youre incorrect https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
A2DY79
The people downvoting me are completely ignorant of history and equating all socialists with modern social democrats.
Py0tr77
Or maybe they are downvoting you because you are wrong. My grandfather was a 17 y.o socialist when they invaded. Heard the stories 1st hand
A2DY79
I am not claiming your grandfather was a nazi. But there was more than one 'brand' of socialism in history. WW2 was partly fought over it.
A2DY79
You're being way too defensive about your father's Christian Socialism. I am NOT trying to smear social democrats. Don't be so defensive.
ElroydIsGone
If you also agree, that there are different kinds of democracy, and the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (aka north korea) is also >
A2DY79
I am not claiming that the Nazis practiced doctrinaire socialism. They perverted it as they perverted everything. But they were collectivist
ElroydIsGone
a democracy, just a different one than our's (the west's), I might agree, that National Socialism is just a different form of socialism.
A2DY79
The mistake is claiming they were social democrats. Which they absolutely weren't. (modern 'socialist' euro parties are social democrats).
RadicalLeftist
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
A2DY79
https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
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A2DY79
To all the people downvoting me: I am NOT smearing social democrats/Christian socialists. But the Nazis WERE fundamentally collectivist.
onlypetunia
No read about it , they removed the socialist factions of the party early on
RadicalLeftist
A socialist has control of production for the people, Nazis controlled production for the state. Do you understand the difference?
RadicalLeftist
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
DrMaggot
I mean they were but only for those they deemed acceptable. And even then, it only worked for a short time thanks to militaristic industry.
RadicalLeftist
And to fund it they stole and enslaved people
Seru666
CriticalCritic
GooteMoo
Holy Christ people are fucking stupid. Who helps these people tie their shoes in the morning? Someone must.
ShiftingPattern
George de Mestral.
magicrhombus
PVTdumpsterbandit
"NaTiOnAl SoCIaLiStS"
tanebot
You know the rule about countries with "democratic" or "republic" in the name...
mrui
And, not or. The more the better, "Peoples Republic" or "Democratic Republic" or the best. "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
mto96
Germany is actually called federal republic Germany in german mother language
ElroydIsGone
Best are the "people's democracies" in name, like, the people's rule of the people, yeah, that's even double peopley, so it must be good.
tanebot
Like the Popular Peoples' Front of Judea!
HonestCommentFarmer
The exception is The Most Serene Republic of San Marino. They're actually pretty chill.
StopCallingMeIAmNotYourBrother
Went there as part of my honeymoon, awesome place.
WhiteVanNoChildrenAllowed
I mean, if they fucking rejected Napoleon's offer of growth & access to the sea, you know they're fucking serious about their serenity.
BetYouWontBanMeAgain
Or "united"
GamingMule
United Kingdom seems to be bucking that trend.
BetYouWontBanMeAgain
The Split Down The Middle States of America just doesn't have the same ring to it
PVTdumpsterbandit
"The People's United Democratic Republic of Kingdoms"
madspinner
Doing the upper lower thing makes you look like a retard.
AreYouMyGuppy
That’s... that’s the point.
sockshoesockshoe
Um. See any picture of Spongebob captioned in that style...
HonestCommentFarmer
DoInG tHe UpPeR lOwEr ThInG mAkEs YoU lOoK lIkE a ReTaRd.
zeethenomad
It's literally supposed to be "dumb guy voice."
PVTdumpsterbandit
Calling people the "R-word" makes you an actual peice of shit.
madspinner
"R-word" you're a child
BetYouWontBanMeAgain
"i can't be the bad guy because I call myself the good guy"
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
TisIChenoir
I call myself the "True Freedom Bringer Party". Sure I exterminated everyone but me, but I'm free now.
LuminousExpanse
it's an oversimplification of what fascism was. fascism inspired by communism as they first guy who developed the idea was an understudy 1/
LuminousExpanse
of Marx. but he thought the idea would be better within an identitarian, national setting instead of a raceless, borderless one. hence the2/
LuminousExpanse
term "Nationalist Socialist." Socialism within nationalism. that's why every fascist state thus far has been race-oriented focusing on 3.
LuminousExpanse
the "purity" of their national identity.
jlinks87
If you want to get technical, the fascist economic model is neither strictly capitalist or socialist. It espouses corporatism, which 1/?
jlinks87
is similar to socialism in that it involves the creation of a sort of upgraded trade union system, where aspects of the economy are 2/?
jlinks87
divided into key industries each controlled by a syndicate of employers, workers, and government ministers. Essentially the economy is 3/?
jlinks87
under the direct control of the state a la (kind of) socialism. Of course the nationalistic element predominates, and fascist economies 4/?
Sprixxen
I mean, they were. It just was socialism for one particular race. In stark comparison to the international socialism of the time.
Sprixxen
If you want to be disturbed and get into the philosophy of Hitler, read Mein Kampf. He uses socialist rhetoric all the time.
Sprixxen
He was basically an ultra-pragmatist who combined elements of socialism, militarism, fascism, and race theory to take over.
Sprixxen
TLDR for Mein Kampf: He defends trade unions, talks about German bourgeois excess, promotes social welfare programs, etc.
alchaeus12
There was socialist rhetoric and some Socialist paramilitary w/ the fascists but was phased out well before they came to national power
HonestCommentFarmer
And by "phased out" we mean they were all killed in the Night of the Long Knives.
imgonnahurtu
Hitler actually inserted himself into the socialist party, even though he hated socialism. He then took it over, but kept the followers.
A2DY79
This isn't true and it's been disproven by dispassionate historians. The Nazis were the definition of far right socialists.
A2DY79
Don't confuse socialists with social democrats, which is what modern European social parties are. The Nazis weren't social democrats.
everydayrobot
Socialism is a very broad term. Technically a Social Democrat falls under that umbrella
A2DY79
The Nazi 'social justice' program was a deeply collectivist one with no private life allowed. Everything was in the public sphere.
A2DY79
It appealed to many Germans, who are a naturally collectivist-leaning people. The error is confusing socialists with social democrats.
A2DY79
The Nazis were DEFINITELY not social democrats, and modern 'socialist' parties are social democrats, not true socialists.
ApplebottomGene
tHeY hAd SoCiAliSt RiGhT tHeRe iN tHe NaMe! Fucking idiots.
RadicalLeftist
Thanks, im off to vote in the republic of north korea
BetYouWontBanMeAgain
^democratic peoples can't forget that part they can't be there bad guys cause obviously they call themselves the good guys duh
LordSmokedMeatsAndFishes
Not just the republic, the DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S Republic of North Korea.
Neboskrebnut
Good point. It's like I was only viewing it from one specific perspective