I seen an Ambulance driver get out of his Ambulance and repeated SLAP/POUND the trunk of a car blocking the Ambulance. Almost sure that there were words spoken. All the car had to do was move forward and then right to make way.
I feel the german Rettungsgasse ist wildly misrepresented here on imgur. 7 out of 10 times, it's an utter failure with people not knowing what to do or knowing but deliberately not doing the right thing. Heres the perspective of first responders trying to get through (german audio) https://youtu.be/4IslVvltDqg?si=CPQEpJ07D9jeT-hx
why would they do that? they would end up at the accident site where they would be obligated to help people...also all the other people in the traffic jam wouldnt let them cut back into line so once the cops show up (if they arent already at the accident site) it would get expensive...
Moving to the outside and clearing the center makes a lot more sense than everyone to the right. But at the same time this also looks like they are going slower than the normal flow of traffic, so feels counterintuitive.
The key here is: everyone is a full car length away from the next car. In America, they're also a car length away, except it's a hot wheels car length away.
I got stuck in front of a police car with lights going, drove the speed limit till there was a gap on the left lane large enough to do a safe merge (two lane motorway, I was in the right/fast lane)
thats not the emergency lane, thats the standstreifen, the "standing strip", broken down vehicles stop there in case they cant make it to an exit, hence emergency vehicles shall avoid driving there...
I still remember my parents saying something about if the polizei shout stopping and shooting, everyone got down. Period. My German was never good enough to recognize much, but if everyone dropped, you dropped.
Second hand information, but according to a boss I once had that was Parisian from the beginning (Swede here) Parisians let the ambulances and firetrucks thru, but might not care as much about cops. Not sure if that's true.
Born in West Germany, but was too young to experience it myself. You are correct, it is a secondhand story in the sense that it is something my father had to tell army troops while he was stationed there.
They don't. If a German knows how to drive they will ALWAYS form a Rettungsgasse when the traffic comes to a stop on the Autobahn. If needed, it's there, if not, no harm done.
Depends, realy depends. On a Stadtautobahn. Good Luck. On a Overland Autobahn, 3 out of 4 times they work. Since the new laws more often. Before it was a 50% Chance. Now you can lose your driving license which is a great incentive... On Stadtautobahn often the Police drive in front of the Rescue nowadays. Which means 2 Points and 200€, when not forming it, and when not making way for rescue, 1 Month Pedastrian extra on it.
The point is Dashcams of firetrucks may be swatted by court, dashcams of Police Cars not. 8 Points and you lose your Driving license. So 2 Points is not light.
We make them very consistently in Slovenia. I'm actually very surprised, usually we're not ones to follow rules on the road (or elsewhere), but this is one area when we actually do the right thing.
Don't forget the work-in-progress induced creeping forward... Drove from Rotterdam to Venice and instead of getting a hotel along the way, we took a 2 hour nap in the mountains in Austria because Germany had wiped me out and eaten up all the extra time I thought I had... 600km Germany highway, where you can drive as fast as you want on parts of it, should have taken 5 hours. It took me 12 hours... 50km/h on average ON THE GERMAN AUTOBAHN FOR CHRIST SAKES.
I know this sounds wrong, but the car not jumping the lights is the correct response. You are not trained or insured and can actually end up with points on your licence for jumping the lights. In the UK people have gone to court for jumping the lights to let emergency vehicles past, they've lost. We wait, and then as soon as that light goes green floor it and pull over for the emergency services to pass.
At least in Germany you can and are required to jump red lights to make way for ambulances and the like (move safely forward into the intersection, common sense required tho).
This video is actually from my town. And there is a well known red light camera at that intersection, still no excuse not to move aside a bit to make room..
Possibly a British driver. In the UK making space for an emergency vehicle is not justification for breaking any traffic laws. You will be ticketed/prosecuted for entering an intersection against the light, for example. Emergency drivers are trained to switch off lights & siren and wait in such situations rather than attempt to push through. Having said that, this moron could have pulled forward without crossing the line.
Rettungswagen 🚑 Rettung is rescue Gasse is alley Rescue alley
Was introduced a couple of years ago, you must form it before the car comes to a standstill on the motorway; there are big banners on bridges to remind everyone
A few times a year I cross the border to Germany on the Autobahn. The simplicity and effectivity of the Rettungsgasse leaves me in awe every time and I can't for the love of it understand why we don't do this in the Netherlands as well.
"Today, this specific firetruck vehicle was exiting the apron of our firehouse with its red lights and siren activated. It was responding to potentially a serious emergency, an active natural gas leak in the Town of Monroe. Gas leaks can cause explosions. As our firetruck completed a right turn onto 17M exiting our firehouse a vehicle traveling toward it entered the safety zone in front of our firehouse and collided with our firetruck. Even after the collision, the other motorist involved...
extremely uncooperative and was what we would consider belligerent. The actions of the other motorist that continued after the collision prevented our apparatus and firefighters from responding to the emergency. Additional apparatus from our Department had to handle the emergency.
We believe our local police department took further action against the motorist that collided with our firetruck as a result of the other motorist’s behavior after the collision.
I see this on the freeway in the US, except they'll do it when the emergency vehicles are being forced to drive on the shoulder because traffic is blocked from the accident they're responding to.
Depends on the area maybe. Here in MZ I've seen it twice. What the average MZ German driver also does is take an exit into a fuel station to bypass a traffic jam. Don't get me started about German drivers...
Don't do it on the A2 at Hannover. The Police there has a habbit to drive on one of the Bridges over the A2 and start taking Pictures, especially in 2017 and 2018 they did it when the laws were new. Easy way to be demoted to Pedastrian. Was sitting in a Traffic Jam in 2017 after the new laws. They enforced them and got 8 flashes off on A***h*** at least 240€, 2 Points and 1 Month without driving license.
Just like the people I hear racing through my 'Tempo 30' street 24/7 with 60-70 kmh? Nah... the local police doesn't give a fuck. Who wants to fine his buddies from the carnaval club... right?
yoursexyneighbour
my shadenfreude wanted to see the accident
ThanksandStuff
Gold star?
Macetheace50
I seen an Ambulance driver get out of his Ambulance and repeated SLAP/POUND the trunk of a car blocking the Ambulance. Almost sure that there were words spoken. All the car had to do was move forward and then right to make way.
UsernameAlreadyTaken058
I feel the german Rettungsgasse ist wildly misrepresented here on imgur. 7 out of 10 times, it's an utter failure with people not knowing what to do or knowing but deliberately not doing the right thing. Heres the perspective of first responders trying to get through (german audio) https://youtu.be/4IslVvltDqg?si=CPQEpJ07D9jeT-hx
4sambucas
I have been in a Stau, in germany, never something like this
Detacheddavid
Where are all BMW drivers (in Germany, of all places) who are naturally inclined to use this amazing opportunity to speed and avoid a traffic jam?
RecurringNightmare
why would they do that? they would end up at the accident site where they would be obligated to help people...also all the other people in the traffic jam wouldnt let them cut back into line so once the cops show up (if they arent already at the accident site) it would get expensive...
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Moving to the outside and clearing the center makes a lot more sense than everyone to the right. But at the same time this also looks like they are going slower than the normal flow of traffic, so feels counterintuitive.
Kalamburas
When in Germany, do as Germans do, when in UK, do as brits do and good luck, when in Italy... Well it was nice knowing you
diezl97
Hey, fellow Americans here, how fucking hard is this? Move over for EVs. If you can't operate your vehicle correctly give up your license.
baldbear
Ha,those people are the same everywhere.
RichardHardley
go faster ffs
bnuihj
That's how it works in the civilized world, yes.
LetThemEatPie
No judgment, but kind of an odd time for them to be watching Asian porn
AtlasRook
The key here is: everyone is a full car length away from the next car. In America, they're also a car length away, except it's a hot wheels car length away.
frenofafren
Meanwhile in the UK I was behind a cop car with blue lights flashing as the vehicle in front drove on oblivious for more than 10 miles.
Leprechaunballsaregold
Uk here. Majority of time we get out of the way, sometimes you just cant. Then theres the idiots who panic
DragoWhooves
I got stuck in front of a police car with lights going, drove the speed limit till there was a gap on the left lane large enough to do a safe merge (two lane motorway, I was in the right/fast lane)
DecapodianSaysWoopWoopWoopWoop
Known as 'life corridor' in Poland.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
This is how we do it in nz also
MoeMoep
While this is a nice, wide avenue, shouldn't you keep the emergency lane on the right clear as well?
RecurringNightmare
thats not the emergency lane, thats the standstreifen, the "standing strip", broken down vehicles stop there in case they cant make it to an exit, hence emergency vehicles shall avoid driving there...
gemaeuer
Actually yes. Forming a Rettungsgasse should not block the emergency lane (Standstreifen).
Audasity
in germany, they actually teach people how to drive. in usa, they do not.
UncleMartha
I was in one of the last classes to have a Driver's Education class in high school (1989, in Colorado, anyway). Now it's all private instruction.
Audasity
my kid was able to take drivers ed as a high school class a couple years ago in minnesota
UncleMartha
Good, it hasn't been totally abandoned!
Hellstorm99
I still remember my parents saying something about if the polizei shout stopping and shooting, everyone got down. Period. My German was never good enough to recognize much, but if everyone dropped, you dropped.
Avilan1972
Second hand information, but according to a boss I once had that was Parisian from the beginning (Swede here) Parisians let the ambulances and firetrucks thru, but might not care as much about cops. Not sure if that's true.
baldbear
You have to be rather old or from the former GDR to have experienced this kind of police.
Hellstorm99
Born in West Germany, but was too young to experience it myself. You are correct, it is a secondhand story in the sense that it is something my father had to tell army troops while he was stationed there.
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
That's in the movie "the Great Escape"
Geezard12
they all pull over, and then Stop!?
RecurringNightmare
if traffic stops its supposed to stop in this way so emergency vehicles can still get through...
ADDGirl
How do the trucks super far ahead know that an emergency vehicle is coming?
Dracon27
I would assume, if slow traffic like the other comments, the truckers probably pass it along their radios.
Mithi
They don't. If a German knows how to drive they will ALWAYS form a Rettungsgasse when the traffic comes to a stop on the Autobahn. If needed, it's there, if not, no harm done.
gemaeuer
You need to form the Rettungsgasse as soon as traffic slows down to a stop-and-go. Regardless if there is an emergency vehicle approaching or not.
peterbozeman
Ah, society. Sometimes, we all just get our shit together and make some stuff happen.
5tradivariuS
I think it mostly is hard repercussions, innit?
derzoomer
A working emergency lane? In germany? Am I dreaming? o_O
Tigersterne
I've driven in Germany one time. And this happened without a hitch. Therefore it clearly occurs 100% of the time
Elkarlo77
Depends, realy depends. On a Stadtautobahn. Good Luck. On a Overland Autobahn, 3 out of 4 times they work. Since the new laws more often. Before it was a 50% Chance. Now you can lose your driving license which is a great incentive... On Stadtautobahn often the Police drive in front of the Rescue nowadays. Which means 2 Points and 200€, when not forming it, and when not making way for rescue, 1 Month Pedastrian extra on it.
Elkarlo77
The point is Dashcams of firetrucks may be swatted by court, dashcams of Police Cars not. 8 Points and you lose your Driving license. So 2 Points is not light.
Noughmad
We make them very consistently in Slovenia. I'm actually very surprised, usually we're not ones to follow rules on the road (or elsewhere), but this is one area when we actually do the right thing.
NM156
Why are they watching porn?
c64masterrace
The dispatcher asked them to come quick
koops
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
Ah, the sights, smells, and the staus of germany
ricpaul
Don't forget the work-in-progress induced creeping forward... Drove from Rotterdam to Venice and instead of getting a hotel along the way, we took a 2 hour nap in the mountains in Austria because Germany had wiped me out and eaten up all the extra time I thought I had... 600km Germany highway, where you can drive as fast as you want on parts of it, should have taken 5 hours. It took me 12 hours... 50km/h on average ON THE GERMAN AUTOBAHN FOR CHRIST SAKES.
Niagaran
I lived in Germany briefly in the 90s. Stau is still one word that is just perfect for its use.
acinonyxjubatus
The French do have better sirens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGSNxkCIln0
Cutwail
https://youtu.be/mk81Q1Drw3M?feature=shared
GoodGuyGonzo
Tatütata
Vergenbuurg
Oh no... not this one... *eye twitches*
melni
I know this sounds wrong, but the car not jumping the lights is the correct response. You are not trained or insured and can actually end up with points on your licence for jumping the lights.
In the UK people have gone to court for jumping the lights to let emergency vehicles past, they've lost. We wait, and then as soon as that light goes green floor it and pull over for the emergency services to pass.
lawislife
At least in Germany you can and are required to jump red lights to make way for ambulances and the like (move safely forward into the intersection, common sense required tho).
MadeAnAccountJustToFavouriteThis
This video is actually from my town. And there is a well known red light camera at that intersection, still no excuse not to move aside a bit to make room..
Avilan1972
In the very unlikely scenario of a stalled engine, at least communicate it somehow.
Teledabby
maybe worried to drive over red light. Wrong decision but maybe he had bad experiences with the traffic guys (Ordnunsgamt dont know in english)
pockpock
There is half a car length till that stopping line, which would have given enough clearance for the truck to pass
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
ohboy.gif
VibratingNipples
ignorant or deaf
somethingsomethingwittyhere
..or Helen Keller?
Mithi
It is not a BMW
diezl97
No excuse. Check your mirrors and be aware of your surroundings, or surrender your license and get off the road.
NorwegianSheepknuller
Could be he figured he fucked up and was paralyzed because they didn't know what to do without worsening the situation.
thelatebillstickers
Possibly a British driver. In the UK making space for an emergency vehicle is not justification for breaking any traffic laws. You will be ticketed/prosecuted for entering an intersection against the light, for example. Emergency drivers are trained to switch off lights & siren and wait in such situations rather than attempt to push through. Having said that, this moron could have pulled forward without crossing the line.
Randomice
Rettungsgasse loosely translates to 'First Responders Alley'.
Tigersterne
Note: this is what you're supposed to do in the US, but Americans are selfish obvious fuckwads.
woozle
pareidoliaperson
What's the word for ambulance?
LittleBuddyBeni
I looked on the german wikipage for ambulance and they have like 4 different ones with differing names and abbreviations. Germans dont fuck around.
egoAristippos
Rettungswagen 🚑
Rettung is rescue
Gasse is alley
Rescue alley
Was introduced a couple of years ago, you must form it before the car comes to a standstill on the motorway; there are big banners on bridges to remind everyone
MediocreExtremist
this. It is mandatory in any traffic jam. Not only when first responders approach
holtsjoe
A few times a year I cross the border to Germany on the Autobahn. The simplicity and effectivity of the Rettungsgasse leaves me in awe every time and I can't for the love of it understand why we don't do this in the Netherlands as well.
iprettymuchhateyouall
Krankenwagen
iHATEcAPSlOCK
Well, still used a lot but not officially in use any more since decades. More common is Rettungswagen (Rescue car) or just Ambulanz.
Bratini1235
Krankenwagen = ambulance, Rettung = Rescue, Gasse = (literaly) alley, in context Lane would be more on point.
PuckerScream
Amateurs. We do it like this in the US!
https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/v31hm7/idiot_blocks_fire_truck_because_he_thinks_he_has/
Teledabby
are cars allowed to be on the yellow markings?
BossVarriack
Isn't that the guy that is one of those sovereign citizens? might be mixing up my idiots though
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
I have never been so enraged
Tigersterne
I'm not a proponent of summary execution. But....
Geogur
Who is this person, or where did it happen? I am trying to find out what happened to this driver.
MostLikelyNotWearingPants
"Today, this specific firetruck vehicle was exiting the apron of our firehouse with its red lights and siren activated. It was responding to potentially a serious emergency, an active natural gas leak in the Town of Monroe. Gas leaks can cause explosions.
As our firetruck completed a right turn onto 17M exiting our firehouse a vehicle traveling toward it entered the safety zone in front of our firehouse and collided with our firetruck.
Even after the collision, the other motorist involved...
MostLikelyNotWearingPants
extremely uncooperative and was what we would consider belligerent.
The actions of the other motorist that continued after the collision prevented our apparatus and firefighters from responding to the emergency. Additional apparatus from our Department had to handle the emergency.
We believe our local police department took further action against the motorist that collided with our firetruck as a result of the other motorist’s behavior after the collision.
cellfreeDNA
Uhm people might be dying because you’re too stupid to recognize big flashy lights and a fucking huge blaring horn. Goddammit.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
I would be more ok if it was a problem with stupid. This is a clear-cut case of being an asshole. No one who can breathe on their own is this stupid.
VodkaReindeer
How did he end up uploading that video?
dmd3eorg
He seriously thought he was the good guy in the situation
girthwindandfire02
He posted it asking for advice on whether he could take legal action. Embarrassing to say the least
FeminineBeeOnslaught
spitfires2000
I've also seen Germans following the ambulance/firetruck to bypass everyone.
BenWyattCalzoneKingandIceTownClown
Im a EMT state side and this happens at least once a day
10000Bees
I see this on the freeway in the US, except they'll do it when the emergency vehicles are being forced to drive on the shoulder because traffic is blocked from the accident they're responding to.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
I've been driving in Germany for 16 years and I've literally never seen that. Could totally imagine some BMW bro doing it though.
spitfires2000
Depends on the area maybe. Here in MZ I've seen it twice. What the average MZ German driver also does is take an exit into a fuel station to bypass a traffic jam. Don't get me started about German drivers...
saucenes5
Google maps has suggested this as an optimal route to me before
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
MZ as in Mainz? Or Mozambique?
spitfires2000
Yes.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
assholes are all over the world
isthisusernametakenquestionmark
That's pretty rare and will most certainly result in a ticket
TackerTacker
Sure fire way to lose your license
derzoomer
we call them assholes
Mechwarrior719
Hey, we have those where I live, too!
MickeyCallahan
I tried to find a place to live without any assholes, but they kicked me out.
CaptAlbertAlexander
Or BMW drivers. Same difference honestly
spitfires2000
There are LOTS of those in Germany.
Elkarlo77
Don't do it on the A2 at Hannover. The Police there has a habbit to drive on one of the Bridges over the A2 and start taking Pictures, especially in 2017 and 2018 they did it when the laws were new. Easy way to be demoted to Pedastrian. Was sitting in a Traffic Jam in 2017 after the new laws. They enforced them and got 8 flashes off on A***h*** at least 240€, 2 Points and 1 Month without driving license.
FeminineBeeOnslaught
Maybe they're out to stop Simon Gruber
kohrah
Yippee-ki-yay
Mithi
240 € fine, 2 demerit points and 1 month license suspension. It ain't cheap to be dumb
Ayemconfoozed
Still too cheap if you ask me :)
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
I've seen Germans deliberately blocking them at a red light. I also saw Germans who beat up first responders.
TanithRosenbaum
Really? When and where?
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
In Germany. 2019 and 2021.
dreikommavierzehn
yeah the person you saw doing that, definitely had their license suspended for it
spitfires2000
Just like the people I hear racing through my 'Tempo 30' street 24/7 with 60-70 kmh? Nah... the local police doesn't give a fuck. Who wants to fine his buddies from the carnaval club... right?
dreikommavierzehn
unlike those tempo30 racers, the people following an emergency vehicle are on camera and the drivers note the license plate