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DonjuanV
Path of exile's reddit
TheSecondPiewackit
You play through the main story for fun. You put on TVHM and Mayhem III for the grind. Didn't respec until level 50.
MisterDonutVampire
I'm just waiting for it to release on PC....
numbonvalium
I am both, depending on the game and available difficulties. I am not above making meme RP builds and game breaking meta bullshit
MechaMan001
MR20 and higher warframe players to MRs below them basically
Magus25
Your build should match your playstyle and to hell with that last 2.74% damage boost.
Boxingbud
In videogames I get it (I'm usually the top frame mind you) but DnD/pencil and paper rpg session and min-maxing is a bad time.
SiriusCobra
this why i always run through such games solo on the first run
I only play with friend(s) for this reason.
RexNihil
Fuck, I just want 'em to fix the bug where your vehicle just derps back and forth in multiplayer. And voice chat so I can be like...
...hey my dude, I know you got a thing to do, but I reaaaaaally want the parts on that vehicle, mind helping a dude out instead of...
...KICKING ME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING GAME LIKE THE COCKBLOCKING FUCKMEAT YOU ARE?!
CAMcLeod
Second should be "Randy Pitchford"
Jinxis
Maybe some people have fun min/maxing and optimizing? I do... >.>
More power to you, but I don't want to be yelled at when I'm not.
arcenlapin
I just want the FUCKING LAG TO STOP. Holy shit.
haguard
Opening the fucking menu to view my items or skills or, god forbid, the fucking map! Lagocalypse. Srsly annoying.
I’m not good at playing to begin with, so it’s very frustrating to be trying and the lag literally kills me so much.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Enhance shaman back in WotLK on WoW. You could gear for haste (the more common build) or crit cap. Crit did WAY more damage, but was a pain
to gear for because you needed about 27% hit. "You have too much hit rating on your gear! You're not geared right!" clear the raid, "If I'm
playing my class wrong, why am I TOP DPS ALL THE FUCKING TIME?"
5uperu5er
When PC release?
Staddi
5 months on Steam, thanks to Epic for that
dontevenknowwhy
Honestly it's a blessing in disguise. Epic got the game in early access, Steam gets the full release
crypticreference
This is why co-op is so unappealing to a lot of folks. The kids who turn it into a job because their real life has no substance.
Bacxaber
git gud
Link01
Thats what turned me off of WoW, I dont want to run a bunch of programs to monitor my DPS and agro and macro all my moves to the millisecond
ElbowdeepinElmo
Don't have to do any of that, really...if you just play reasonably well, your DPS won't be bad enough to mention it, aggro isn't a big
deal if the tank isn't atrocious. Moves...well, bosses tend to use abilities you should avoid. Just don't join a raid guild & you're good
TheHappyMadman
WoW classic ?
Leeloothedog
"LFG ZF AOE MAGE FARM ONLY"
Exactly ?
yah. classic isnt all that great imo. too many meta slaves. plus everyone just wants to rush everything to get it done... to me thats like
eating a popsicle in one bite instead of enjoying it
MightyIink
Classic WoW Elitists: You have to play a warrior! (World first Ragnaros kill was a half full raid of all classes.)
Noobalott
More like: "If you play a warrior you need to be a tank, period." As a dps warrior who doesn't like to tank, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Frogapus
"Why don't you have mage armor up? You should be casting it at the start of every day!" My stage magician:
Locolarue
Uhhhhh...so what do you use instead of Mage Armor?
pancreas
(2)correction: not combat casting. the other one that I forget the name of, which lets you reduce arcane spell failure chance in armor.
maybe he's like my first pathfinder character (before I knew how to play) and uses leather armor + combat casting feat...+ mage armor...
IIRC Mage armor and armor don't stack. Then Shield for dangerous encounters. But yeah, not looking like a wizard is a good way to not die.
you are correct. this was my first character, and all of us including the GM were new to the game. also had Still Spell feat...so useful...
So...like...what?
Tentwen
Probably his 5,000$ suit. Come on.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
This sounds an awful lot like my Guild giving me shit for DPSing as Enh Shammy despite not letting me play Resto when I'm routinely >
creamyonions
I enjoy DPSing as an arms warrior instead of fury, and I don't like warrior tanking. Always getting shit but oh look, who is near top dps?
> parsing 95+ % for my ilvl as a Resto Shammy. ELE IS NOT FUN FOR ME. I'M SORRY I'M ONLY PULLING 25-30K DPS! LET ME HEAL INSTEAD!
Duckris
It's weird a guild that let's you play enhance would care about you playing enhance, hopefully they're not too mean about it
They're playful about giving me shit, but I'm Primal Primer build n it doesn't seem to be working for me. Also, I'm strong as fuck on the >
> Resto parses. But still, fuck playing literally the same spec as every other shammy, especially when I don't enjoy it.
SoraHjort
Played Exalted a while back. Three of us had characters built for social and fighting. The fourth... had a screen nuke...
ShiraZen
It's almost as if the franchise has always had a hardcore raiding/grinding scene. Who'da'thunk?
docpalindrome
I have played TTRPGs for over 35 years. Never before has a meme more spoken to my soul.
It's not mine either but I don't know that I've seen a better meme(personally.) It resonates so deep inside.
Bearnaked247
So you DM around here often?
Muttons1337
What's the TT?
Table top games like Dungeons and Dragons
UnvisibleFixer
Table top
T. Hanks
Kividoyx1
I love my goblin eldritch knight with the archaeologist background.
PostNutDepression
My favorite DND character I've made was a dragonborn courtier barbarian who worked as a bodyguard for her employer's favorite hooker.
krugle
Played with a few friends and a couple just wanted to use the money grenade and rerun bosses over and over again.
Hambongler
Probably because of the bank space mechanic. Though once you get to mayhem you can make millions from vending machines with v little effort
SabonVous
money grenade and the smg that uses money as ammo? that was a fun combo
Greymalum
I know like what two of those things are, but what's the money grenade?
There are a lot of them actually, it's just a matter of finding them. Hyperion and Atlas seem to be the most common.
The grenade mod will have "CASH" in the description. It's just an added effect that makes enemies spew cash upon the explosion. Very handy.
The money grenade explodes and showers money everywhere, some of the better ones if used right can net like 2+ million a run.
Neat, thank you.
FullMonty001
Where to find it? :V
NoGodsNoHeroes
Looks for double money mods and use Moze easy money.
JustinArnold
You can find them in the ammo shops. They have the 'money' tag as one of their modifyers (minimum 1, i have one with 3) or the prorder one
And if you preordered the game, the Cheddar Shredder grenade mod makes enemies drop even more.
Jenthar
With the preorder bonuses, do you only get them once or do you get them on every character?
Every character it looks like.
Seems like its every char. Ive made 5 so far (one is a coop) and have gotten the same preorder mail every time
cathicklesquall
Every character
I get bored of that routine real quick.
It was fun in the "let's see what the most we can get in a single run" kind of way but that only goes so far.
How much did you end up with?
I did it for an hour and ended up with 8 ish million I think, enough that I felt that cash wise there was no challenge anymore.
iluvdis
After you beat the game and set it to mayhem 3 you can easily make 10 to 20 mil an hour. It's pointless because money has no value.
CaptainQuarkk
I know some people hate grinding in games, but this is why i like at least some. it keeps the game economy running for longer.
Once you max out the SDUs cash pretty much loses all value
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
I have a bad reputation for falling into repetitive grinds and doing them for a long time. 4000 hours in warframe and most of it was
Ulthirm
The grind in that game is probably one of the few times my habit of grinding hypnosis actually had real consequences mentally.
That said, damned if I didnt have every damn weapon in that game (at the time) in my inventory and maxed out. frames too.
Now I have to really regulate myself because if I go too far its more than just social life that suffers.
Solo farming Mods and rare pieces of gear in the void ever since open beta. Never spent money on it once, had over 30k plat when I quit.
AntonioAdorno
Shame, and right when we’re getting close to the Kuva Lich Update. Essentially like the “Shadow of” game series nemesis system.
Like it is impressive, very impressive, but we got some cool stuff on the way. Well technically we always do it seems.
volcanoduck
Can't be as bad as the leveling system from Oblivion
RedRoverRedRoverSendZombiesOnOver
Yeah, I got sick of that shit real quick. It's what got me started using Cheat Engine.
NotaCPA
OH LORD THAT WAS BAD. horror stories of hundreds of hours spent to just hit a wall
Lol, I recently found a big notepad I was using to keep track of leveled skills so I didn't nerf my own character while leveling up
I think everyone did this, you're definitely not alone.
I never gave the game the proper playtime, unfortunately.
Woolytop
I couldn't explain it if I had a hundred 140 character posts. Basically, the game actively punishes you for using the skills you're good at.
Character with level once 10 skill levels were achieved. You had to be careful which skills you leveled or ...
... your character got weaker and weaker as the world auto leveled around you
kookyabird
Spend a long time running everywhere? WELL GUESS WHAT THATS YOUR SPECIALTY NOW! BETTER RUN FROM THE HIGH LEVEL ENEMIES!!!
FitzFarseer
...are we talking about TES: Oblivion? Because if so I am very confused
TheHumanCentipanzer
Yes, it didnt matter what skill you leveled, the enemies would scale to your overall level, so in one instance i leveled to 100 alteration 1
moonsaves
Just don't sleep
Isn't that the whole thing about beating it while keeping your character at level one?
Relicanth
After I found that stuff out, I downloaded the mod that gives you 5's in every category. Still have to pick which 3 to max, but it helps.
I'd play that game again with that mod. It was one of the better elder scrolls
ForgeGoremann
Ugh, ty for heads up
OppoQuinn
It's easily fixed with any of the balance mods floating around out there, though. I'd recommend looking into those (and the fan-made patch).
It wasn't a super bad issue. You can easily finish every faction quest and main story without leveling.
But iirc you could beat the game with a lvl 1 char wearing rags and swinging a club. xD
TheRealAethrys
If you pick skills you never use you can abuse the hell out of it, though that's not fun for the opposite reason.
SyeedAli
With the new 2.0 armor you can't have fun unless you're min/maxing because you're wearing candy floss.
EthioSalvator
Uh, this is Borderlands not that other game
GadenKerensky
What do you mean?
schmittyboss
Destiny 2 maybe?
Oh god I was so mad I mixed up games.
I'm trying to work out the Candy Floss part.
ElynaerDeiros
As in the armor is like physically wearing candy floss, utterly useless in every way as armor.
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
Ok, I understand what the metaphor is trying to *say*... but... candy floss? Like you floss your teeth with candy? What?
UniqueUsernamesWhatIsThis2005
Armor 2.0 added stats that effect ability cooldowns. It's not so bad in PvE, but it's pretty noticeable in PvP. Thats my best guess at least
DickMercenary
PVP has always been an unbalanced shit show in Destiny 2. Whole game would be better off if Bungie removed it and Gambit.
SoftcoreFavorites
Molten Core at the moment.. basically...
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
I miss that Taco Bell burrito honestly...
apneax3n0n
Ahhaha you don't say
ASettlementNeedsUpvotes
Wait?! An MMORPG is hardcore in its end game content a month in?!?! This is news!
villlllle
Hard core? =D We run it with 24, of which four were 55-59 as of last clear =D
juanswansong
Yea classic raids are a joke the hardest part is getting your 40 together
TheOneFreiman
I'm a bit sad none again will experience the sheer chaos of those raids as they were back when everyone was a noob. I feel special, but old.
And that's not a brag, it's meant to say you can clear it easy with 40 even if you have noobspecs and gear. The fights are extremely easy.
More so referring to the original comment that MC groups are being demanding rn when the game has been out for a handful of weeks.
They aren't, though. Only thing that's marginally "difficult" is Rag. And that's more of a gear/consumable issue.
It amazed me that a group of 58-59s murdered 40m Rag a week into Classic. Ony, too.
TheGreatAku
That group of players has played on several private servers before and knew exactly what to do to speed through leveling and get a kill.
I'm aware of that, but it's still mind boggling.
TheSwedishCryptid
Now people been able to do it with just 20 BIS people, so needing bis is complete horse-shit.
PoppinLochNessHopster
People got much much better at the game with a literal decade of practice, bananas.
Sassy. I never played in Vanilla, but everyone made it seem like it was impossible.
There's no need to research the fights or have trial and error, everything is familiar, and most of MC is just pure tanknspank.
Right. I never raided in Vanilla/BC, but yeah. WAIT FOR ME TO GET MY SUNDER STACKS, PEOPLE!!1!
DonjuanV
Path of exile's reddit
TheSecondPiewackit
You play through the main story for fun. You put on TVHM and Mayhem III for the grind. Didn't respec until level 50.
MisterDonutVampire
I'm just waiting for it to release on PC....
numbonvalium
I am both, depending on the game and available difficulties. I am not above making meme RP builds and game breaking meta bullshit
MechaMan001
MR20 and higher warframe players to MRs below them basically
Magus25
Your build should match your playstyle and to hell with that last 2.74% damage boost.
Boxingbud
In videogames I get it (I'm usually the top frame mind you) but DnD/pencil and paper rpg session and min-maxing is a bad time.
SiriusCobra
this why i always run through such games solo on the first run
rowspacer
I only play with friend(s) for this reason.
RexNihil
Fuck, I just want 'em to fix the bug where your vehicle just derps back and forth in multiplayer. And voice chat so I can be like...
RexNihil
...hey my dude, I know you got a thing to do, but I reaaaaaally want the parts on that vehicle, mind helping a dude out instead of...
RexNihil
...KICKING ME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING GAME LIKE THE COCKBLOCKING FUCKMEAT YOU ARE?!
CAMcLeod
Second should be "Randy Pitchford"
Jinxis
Maybe some people have fun min/maxing and optimizing? I do... >.>
rowspacer
More power to you, but I don't want to be yelled at when I'm not.
arcenlapin
I just want the FUCKING LAG TO STOP. Holy shit.
haguard
Opening the fucking menu to view my items or skills or, god forbid, the fucking map! Lagocalypse. Srsly annoying.
arcenlapin
I’m not good at playing to begin with, so it’s very frustrating to be trying and the lag literally kills me so much.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Enhance shaman back in WotLK on WoW. You could gear for haste (the more common build) or crit cap. Crit did WAY more damage, but was a pain
NotMyUsualOnlineName
to gear for because you needed about 27% hit. "You have too much hit rating on your gear! You're not geared right!" clear the raid, "If I'm
NotMyUsualOnlineName
playing my class wrong, why am I TOP DPS ALL THE FUCKING TIME?"
5uperu5er
When PC release?
Staddi
5 months on Steam, thanks to Epic for that
dontevenknowwhy
Honestly it's a blessing in disguise. Epic got the game in early access, Steam gets the full release
crypticreference
This is why co-op is so unappealing to a lot of folks. The kids who turn it into a job because their real life has no substance.
Bacxaber
git gud
Link01
Thats what turned me off of WoW, I dont want to run a bunch of programs to monitor my DPS and agro and macro all my moves to the millisecond
ElbowdeepinElmo
Don't have to do any of that, really...if you just play reasonably well, your DPS won't be bad enough to mention it, aggro isn't a big
ElbowdeepinElmo
deal if the tank isn't atrocious. Moves...well, bosses tend to use abilities you should avoid. Just don't join a raid guild & you're good
TheHappyMadman
WoW classic ?
Leeloothedog
"LFG ZF AOE MAGE FARM ONLY"
TheHappyMadman
Exactly ?
Leeloothedog
yah. classic isnt all that great imo. too many meta slaves. plus everyone just wants to rush everything to get it done... to me thats like
Leeloothedog
eating a popsicle in one bite instead of enjoying it
MightyIink
Classic WoW Elitists: You have to play a warrior! (World first Ragnaros kill was a half full raid of all classes.)
Noobalott
More like: "If you play a warrior you need to be a tank, period." As a dps warrior who doesn't like to tank, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Frogapus
"Why don't you have mage armor up? You should be casting it at the start of every day!" My stage magician:
Locolarue
Uhhhhh...so what do you use instead of Mage Armor?
pancreas
(2)correction: not combat casting. the other one that I forget the name of, which lets you reduce arcane spell failure chance in armor.
pancreas
maybe he's like my first pathfinder character (before I knew how to play) and uses leather armor + combat casting feat...+ mage armor...
Locolarue
IIRC Mage armor and armor don't stack. Then Shield for dangerous encounters. But yeah, not looking like a wizard is a good way to not die.
pancreas
you are correct. this was my first character, and all of us including the GM were new to the game. also had Still Spell feat...so useful...
Frogapus
Locolarue
So...like...what?
Tentwen
Probably his 5,000$ suit. Come on.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
This sounds an awful lot like my Guild giving me shit for DPSing as Enh Shammy despite not letting me play Resto when I'm routinely >
creamyonions
I enjoy DPSing as an arms warrior instead of fury, and I don't like warrior tanking. Always getting shit but oh look, who is near top dps?
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
> parsing 95+ % for my ilvl as a Resto Shammy. ELE IS NOT FUN FOR ME. I'M SORRY I'M ONLY PULLING 25-30K DPS! LET ME HEAL INSTEAD!
Duckris
It's weird a guild that let's you play enhance would care about you playing enhance, hopefully they're not too mean about it
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
They're playful about giving me shit, but I'm Primal Primer build n it doesn't seem to be working for me. Also, I'm strong as fuck on the >
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
> Resto parses. But still, fuck playing literally the same spec as every other shammy, especially when I don't enjoy it.
SoraHjort
Played Exalted a while back. Three of us had characters built for social and fighting. The fourth... had a screen nuke...
ShiraZen
It's almost as if the franchise has always had a hardcore raiding/grinding scene. Who'da'thunk?
docpalindrome
I have played TTRPGs for over 35 years. Never before has a meme more spoken to my soul.
rowspacer
It's not mine either but I don't know that I've seen a better meme(personally.) It resonates so deep inside.
Bearnaked247
So you DM around here often?
Muttons1337
What's the TT?
Bearnaked247
Table top games like Dungeons and Dragons
UnvisibleFixer
Table top
Muttons1337
T. Hanks
Kividoyx1
I love my goblin eldritch knight with the archaeologist background.
PostNutDepression
My favorite DND character I've made was a dragonborn courtier barbarian who worked as a bodyguard for her employer's favorite hooker.
krugle
Played with a few friends and a couple just wanted to use the money grenade and rerun bosses over and over again.
Hambongler
Probably because of the bank space mechanic. Though once you get to mayhem you can make millions from vending machines with v little effort
SabonVous
money grenade and the smg that uses money as ammo? that was a fun combo
Greymalum
I know like what two of those things are, but what's the money grenade?
rowspacer
There are a lot of them actually, it's just a matter of finding them. Hyperion and Atlas seem to be the most common.
rowspacer
The grenade mod will have "CASH" in the description. It's just an added effect that makes enemies spew cash upon the explosion. Very handy.
krugle
The money grenade explodes and showers money everywhere, some of the better ones if used right can net like 2+ million a run.
Greymalum
Neat, thank you.
FullMonty001
Where to find it? :V
NoGodsNoHeroes
Looks for double money mods and use Moze easy money.
JustinArnold
You can find them in the ammo shops. They have the 'money' tag as one of their modifyers (minimum 1, i have one with 3) or the prorder one
rowspacer
And if you preordered the game, the Cheddar Shredder grenade mod makes enemies drop even more.
Jenthar
With the preorder bonuses, do you only get them once or do you get them on every character?
rowspacer
Every character it looks like.
JustinArnold
Seems like its every char. Ive made 5 so far (one is a coop) and have gotten the same preorder mail every time
cathicklesquall
Every character
rowspacer
I get bored of that routine real quick.
krugle
It was fun in the "let's see what the most we can get in a single run" kind of way but that only goes so far.
rowspacer
How much did you end up with?
krugle
I did it for an hour and ended up with 8 ish million I think, enough that I felt that cash wise there was no challenge anymore.
iluvdis
After you beat the game and set it to mayhem 3 you can easily make 10 to 20 mil an hour. It's pointless because money has no value.
CaptainQuarkk
I know some people hate grinding in games, but this is why i like at least some. it keeps the game economy running for longer.
JustinArnold
Once you max out the SDUs cash pretty much loses all value
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
I have a bad reputation for falling into repetitive grinds and doing them for a long time. 4000 hours in warframe and most of it was
Ulthirm
The grind in that game is probably one of the few times my habit of grinding hypnosis actually had real consequences mentally.
Ulthirm
That said, damned if I didnt have every damn weapon in that game (at the time) in my inventory and maxed out. frames too.
Ulthirm
Now I have to really regulate myself because if I go too far its more than just social life that suffers.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Solo farming Mods and rare pieces of gear in the void ever since open beta. Never spent money on it once, had over 30k plat when I quit.
AntonioAdorno
Shame, and right when we’re getting close to the Kuva Lich Update. Essentially like the “Shadow of” game series nemesis system.
AntonioAdorno
Like it is impressive, very impressive, but we got some cool stuff on the way. Well technically we always do it seems.
volcanoduck
Can't be as bad as the leveling system from Oblivion
RedRoverRedRoverSendZombiesOnOver
Yeah, I got sick of that shit real quick. It's what got me started using Cheat Engine.
NotaCPA
OH LORD THAT WAS BAD. horror stories of hundreds of hours spent to just hit a wall
volcanoduck
Lol, I recently found a big notepad I was using to keep track of leveled skills so I didn't nerf my own character while leveling up
NotaCPA
I think everyone did this, you're definitely not alone.
rowspacer
I never gave the game the proper playtime, unfortunately.
Woolytop
I couldn't explain it if I had a hundred 140 character posts. Basically, the game actively punishes you for using the skills you're good at.
volcanoduck
Character with level once 10 skill levels were achieved. You had to be careful which skills you leveled or ...
volcanoduck
... your character got weaker and weaker as the world auto leveled around you
kookyabird
Spend a long time running everywhere? WELL GUESS WHAT THATS YOUR SPECIALTY NOW! BETTER RUN FROM THE HIGH LEVEL ENEMIES!!!
FitzFarseer
...are we talking about TES: Oblivion? Because if so I am very confused
TheHumanCentipanzer
Yes, it didnt matter what skill you leveled, the enemies would scale to your overall level, so in one instance i leveled to 100 alteration 1
moonsaves
Just don't sleep
volcanoduck
Isn't that the whole thing about beating it while keeping your character at level one?
Relicanth
After I found that stuff out, I downloaded the mod that gives you 5's in every category. Still have to pick which 3 to max, but it helps.
volcanoduck
I'd play that game again with that mod. It was one of the better elder scrolls
ForgeGoremann
Ugh, ty for heads up
OppoQuinn
It's easily fixed with any of the balance mods floating around out there, though. I'd recommend looking into those (and the fan-made patch).
ShiraZen
It wasn't a super bad issue. You can easily finish every faction quest and main story without leveling.
volcanoduck
But iirc you could beat the game with a lvl 1 char wearing rags and swinging a club. xD
TheRealAethrys
If you pick skills you never use you can abuse the hell out of it, though that's not fun for the opposite reason.
SyeedAli
With the new 2.0 armor you can't have fun unless you're min/maxing because you're wearing candy floss.
EthioSalvator
Uh, this is Borderlands not that other game
GadenKerensky
What do you mean?
schmittyboss
Destiny 2 maybe?
SyeedAli
Oh god I was so mad I mixed up games.
GadenKerensky
I'm trying to work out the Candy Floss part.
ElynaerDeiros
As in the armor is like physically wearing candy floss, utterly useless in every way as armor.
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
Ok, I understand what the metaphor is trying to *say*... but... candy floss? Like you floss your teeth with candy? What?
UniqueUsernamesWhatIsThis2005
Armor 2.0 added stats that effect ability cooldowns. It's not so bad in PvE, but it's pretty noticeable in PvP. Thats my best guess at least
DickMercenary
PVP has always been an unbalanced shit show in Destiny 2. Whole game would be better off if Bungie removed it and Gambit.
SoftcoreFavorites
Molten Core at the moment.. basically...
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
I miss that Taco Bell burrito honestly...
apneax3n0n
Ahhaha you don't say
ASettlementNeedsUpvotes
Wait?! An MMORPG is hardcore in its end game content a month in?!?! This is news!
villlllle
Hard core? =D We run it with 24, of which four were 55-59 as of last clear =D
juanswansong
Yea classic raids are a joke the hardest part is getting your 40 together
TheOneFreiman
I'm a bit sad none again will experience the sheer chaos of those raids as they were back when everyone was a noob. I feel special, but old.
villlllle
And that's not a brag, it's meant to say you can clear it easy with 40 even if you have noobspecs and gear. The fights are extremely easy.
ASettlementNeedsUpvotes
More so referring to the original comment that MC groups are being demanding rn when the game has been out for a handful of weeks.
villlllle
They aren't, though. Only thing that's marginally "difficult" is Rag. And that's more of a gear/consumable issue.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
It amazed me that a group of 58-59s murdered 40m Rag a week into Classic. Ony, too.
TheGreatAku
That group of players has played on several private servers before and knew exactly what to do to speed through leveling and get a kill.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
I'm aware of that, but it's still mind boggling.
TheSwedishCryptid
Now people been able to do it with just 20 BIS people, so needing bis is complete horse-shit.
PoppinLochNessHopster
People got much much better at the game with a literal decade of practice, bananas.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Sassy. I never played in Vanilla, but everyone made it seem like it was impossible.
villlllle
There's no need to research the fights or have trial and error, everything is familiar, and most of MC is just pure tanknspank.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Right. I never raided in Vanilla/BC, but yeah. WAIT FOR ME TO GET MY SUNDER STACKS, PEOPLE!!1!