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Crazy to think that this man had 27 years of his life robbed from him. Sad stuff
Sep 1, 2016 3:08 PM
KingPhTr
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Crazy to think that this man had 27 years of his life robbed from him. Sad stuff
JinxiaoKlauz
that so frakking sad...????...one mil can't bring the life he had before...
Hyperbutterfly420
No amount of money could ever make up for that loss.
wileycoyote25
Red Foreman was his lawyer?
ManOverthrown
He deserves a huge settlement. He should live out the rest of his days a wealthy man.
grandpadoug63
27 years! This is so wrong, I can't imagine spending 27 yrs of my life doing time for some I didn't do. I hope he gets his money Ohio!
jj1520
Even with the money it won't be easy to assimilate back into society.
Blastergv9
Semi-related: Steve Avery's (Making a Murderer) lawyer just filed a motion to have new testing done for his case
andwhyisthecarpetallwetTodd
This man deserves a fucking 1,000,000,000 dollar apology for his whole family- he shouldnt have a fucking stress or care forever
ImgurBannedMeWtf
Yes you can. It's exactly how brenden Dassey must feel sitting on his sofa watching wrestle mania.
everyoneiskungfufighting
This is why we need to be VERY CAREFUL about capital punishment.
thisismyvietnam
"Your honor why's he crying if he's innocent?" -sleazy prosecutor
gavinj1999
Yeah, but tank top though.
MapToTheCrunch
"You're free. You can buy all the sweater vests in the world."
shaggykx
Uncle Phil?
ViruSoul
Ohh! So this is where suites got their idea for new season.
Stamacy
I want to cry tears of both sadness and joy for this man. ♡
lurkingfrom9to5
And this is the reason why death sentences are retarded af. Mistakes can be made.
schaft
Same thing happened to Nick Yarris. Watch "The Fear of 13" on Netflix.
shadowbanmeagain
The US Government owes him 1 free murder.
upindat
JerodH
For something that he never done. Put in a prison cell but one time he coulda been a champion of the world
oneoftheworldsleadingclimatescientists
Meanwhile far away, in another part of town
Zoodpy
After 27 years i might just a smidge angry
rpgaff2
Agree that its depressing, but I am really impressed by his outfit. Sweater vest is great.
Bizabi
and thats why you can't have the death penalty.... cause cops, prosecutors, judges can really suck.
Feanor19
Soooo your not a fan of Judge Dredd?
mynamesbryson
I used to be pro-death penalty but after learning about The Innocence Project in one of my criminal law classes, I have completely changed.
SombreroWieldingLawmaker
The Innocence Project?
FluidMagyck
1/2 They focus on getting the innocent exonerated using DNA evidence. The ones they work with
FluidMagyck
2/2 were put in jail because of faulty circumstantial evidence. It's a really awesome group.
mynamesbryson
Not only that, but they are all pro bono.
borderlinetrainwreck
This should be my post... word for word. I was prelaw and in those same classes. Walk out of those really thinking about stuff.
flarflarf
aaaand this is why I'm opposed to the death penalty.
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flarflarf
that's an awfully easy thing to say.
ThoraxeTheImpalerAndSteveTheVagina
So all those people who deserve it should get to live off tax money until they die? Wasting space and resources?
flarflarf
how many innocent people's lives is that space and those resources worth?
willowed
Yes.
Riddiculous
What about inmates that want to kill themselves? Surely it'd be better to let them be euthanised instead of raped or something
flarflarf
or do you think we never execute innocent people?
ThoraxeTheImpalerAndSteveTheVagina
im not saying its never happened, but appeals can last decades, and it is extremely long process for that reason
flarflarf
so, again, how much money is it worth to not execute an innocent man?
bak1984
So because it's a time consuming and costly process, you're ok with a few innocents slipping through the cracks and being executed.
ThoraxeTheImpalerAndSteveTheVagina
I see this going in a very CNN direction where I said one thing and now all anyone wants to do is say I am okay with innocent people being -
yourcalllightisalreadyinyourhand
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/#79ac6eea17f0
ThoraxeTheImpalerAndSteveTheVagina
that was actually pretty eye opening on the costs of it all, I am by no means educated on these matters.
DarkSock
Good thing he wasn't in a death penalty state…
Feanor19
I'm like 50/50 would it be better to be on DR and in segregated or to be with the shit in gen pop but have regular social interaction?
CigaretteMan
If I'm remembering the right case, this guy was on death row for several years.
captrayholt
I imagine 27 years in prison might make death look pretty good at times
reineseele
What does he get from the state as compensation ???
SummerOfBees
A million or so dollars if the comment above this is to be believed
LariCheltsy
An ankle bracelet
neurosuspension
Anal reconstruction surgury
controversialcomment
Oh that's dark lol
ianbopno
Tree-fiddy
rovertbiggs
David Milgaard in Canada got $10million after being exonerated. He spent 22 years behind bars.
Gutinator
Steven Trusscott (Canadian) did 18 years I think and got 6 million. Arrested at 15 I'm pretty sure, for rape. Sentenced to hang.
voldemortisafish
He was arrested for rape and murder.
DougForcett
In Ohio (where this happened) he is entitled to $40,330 for each year he was wrongfully incarcerated http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2743.48
xRoyalWolfx
You're mistaken. It's that figure plus a lot more. Might want to reread.
MechaNinja
That's almost like good news. I assume it is pro-rated so he won't get $40,330 for the last year, but it'll be ballpark $1 million.
furrynoodles
Minus attorney fees
xRoyalWolfx
xRoyalWolfx
I think you mean PLUS. Might want to reread.
xRoyalWolfx
RogueLanguageModel
good
HomeostasisAtWork
not good. I make more than that and I only work 40ish hours a week. He should be compensated for more than ~$4.60 an hour
KaleAddAnO
......40k is 3x what i make....so yes....good.
MyFavoritesAreNice
You cant really put a price on life or years lost. After all they are priceless. But at least he'd be getting 1 million to make thingsEasier
RogueLanguageModel
you totally can, dude, dont be naive
TheSideQuestsOfZelda
am I missing something? 40 grand equates to just shy of $20 an hour. assuming a 40 hour work week.
HomeostasisAtWork
He's not spending his 40 hours than going home. He has lost every hour in a week. I would want to be compensated for every hour lost, not 40
Katalliaan
Looks like they were going per hour he was incarcerated rather than comparing it to the standard 40-hour work week.
JohnJacobJingleHeimerSmitt
40k or some shit
SmokeyDragon
Uh no.. 10 million dollars, a bit more than 40k
JohnJacobJingleHeimerSmitt
Nuh-uh! Common core taught me its about the same!
Scordare
I did the math ghost statement is accurate
SmokeyDragon
I mean... I guess he's not fully wrong, 40k is part of 10 mill... Damm!
LiteralZachary
Not a whole lot. But either way, that's 27 years of people believing you did a crime you never did. 27 years not spent with loved ones.
DankS0uls
He got over a million dollars.
controversialcomment
Woop!
NoMrBondIExpectYouToDie
Glad he got something at least. But no amount is worth 27 lost years we need serious reform
DankS0uls
Agreed. That doesn't make up for the lost time, but it is good that he got something.
controversialcomment
Well 27 years ago science wasn't what it is today, we need to put more money into organizations that investigate old crimes,
NoMrBondIExpectYouToDie
Agreed
controversialcomment
Its likely that he was put in jail because of shitty old forensic evidence, not just cause the government and prison system are crap.
NoMrBondIExpectYouToDie
I mean if he was innocent though something did go terribly wrong. But I know what you mean, old evidence needs to be relooked at
TheDino
Tree fiddy.
slasher88bravo
He can file an appeal to get restitution through his states Victim compensation fund.
slasher88bravo
In CA, I think it's close to $100 per each day of his wrongful conviction depending on the evidence of the trial that convicted him.
WhatAWildRide
So it's just shy of 1 million. Do they tax the crap out of that or would he get it in full?
cleavergrill
Since you already did the time, you get to do a crime that would have that sentence.
justyourfriendlyneighborhoodimgurian
I feel bad for those who wrongly accused a rape.
HaveYouSeenMyLSD
Pirate a porn movie, 10 years
cleavergrill
Oh man, he could get like...two and a half movies...#worthit
FailFish
Does two and a half man count as one?
controversialcomment
No. You can commit the exact same crime and only go to prison for the remainder of your sentence, or not at all if you finished your sentenc
3clectic84
Double jeopardy
controversialcomment
Double jeopardy would only apply if he commuted that crime after his sentence and they were trying to put him away for that same crime again
DougForcett
This happened in Cleveland. Ohio law states that they are entitled to $40,000 per year they were wrongly incarcerated so $1,080,000 or so.
ButterfaceTaintClown
Totally worth it.
cousteau
That's a decent salary. I would definitely NOT spend 24/7 in a cage treated like shit and surrounded by murderers for "a decent salary".
twfeline
Of which, the taxes amount to 85% of it.
imnicetopeopleontheinternet
Fuck. I hope that guy gets some good tips on what to do with that money...
OthortheCute
You're a goddamn hero posting sources
OGshogun
He deserves way more than just 1mil for 27 years. Apparently human years are less valuable than money according to govt.
eclect0
In other states it would be a fraction of even that
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
Sadly, no amount of money can ever bring that time back to him.
mormacil
Quite a few of these guys either go back to jail or kill themselves. They can't handle outside life anymore.
DDPB9k5G
source?
DanDanDaaaaannnnn
He won't have to adjust as rapidly though. Doesn't need a job so he can shut himself in if he needs to.
DougForcett
sauce: Ohio Revised Code 2743.48 (E)(b) http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2743.48
Aerata
Can I get a tldr?
Bomchickawahwah
Read E - 2 - a,b,c,d. Lazy little...
Noblert
Having spent so many years in jail, will be know how to appropriately administer his new cash?
realmdweller
Can that be taxed? And if so, how much would he have to hand back to the same people who wrongfully incarcerated him?
DougForcett
It used to vary by state. Some did some didn't. Wrongful Convictions Tax Relief Act of 2015 made it illegal to collect taxes on these.
Silliosophical
Are you a lawyer? Social justice person? Just curious how you have such a handle on all of this. Thnx for contributing :)
ManualWindowedSubmarine
A well informed citizen of the United States.*
LookingCaliforniaFeelingMinnesota
Taxing it seems awfully dishonourable. It'd be like invalidating 5 of the 27 years he was behind!
KingChadawg
That's bullshit when some people could be making much more than that in a year if they were out working and not locked up
DougForcett
It is but sadly, Ohio is one of the better states. Some don't offer anything but an apology. Some only give $15k per year. Etc.
xRoyalWolfx
More than 40,000.
gprogri
Wait, it says the deduct for the housing, and services provided to him while in the prison or I'm reading it wrong.
xRoyalWolfx
You're reading it wrong.
DougForcett
Some private jails charge the inmates lodging and food cost while they're locked up. This says they are reimbursed those also if applicable.
gprogri
got it thanks.
Zevz2990
So if he had a job that he lost as a result of going to jail he would get money=27 years of wages aswell?
ChillWinstonCharlieKnewitwasme
x 10 and your getting close to what he deserves, if you ask me
LtHawkie
I don't think any amount of money could equal the experiences he lost.
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DougForcett
I read an article about this. Both him and his brother were locked up and recently freed. He says his biggest regret is that because he (1)
DougForcett
and his brother are too old now, the family line will end with them. So he doesn't have any children. It was very sad. (2)
ChillWinstonCharlieKnewitwasme
:-(
Demonicjapsel
thats rather low, the Dutch pay 250 euro's per day wrongfully imprisoned.
knightswhosayekkiekkiekkiPTANGzoomboingznourrigmNI
While it's a nice gesture, it's hardly recompense for stealing 27 years of a man's life...
StooperDave
yeah, i would use that 1 mil to get a lawyer and get me a couple hundred mil.
DougForcett
When you take the compensation deal they make you sign a waiver releasing them from any future liability.
StooperDave
then dont sign it, sue their asses. every laywer in the city will be lining up to get a piece of that action.
Dangerneck
Better a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent man be imprisoned.
oumajgad
Recipe for crime infested country is complete.
saucefornoreason
Unfortunately our legal system has become guilty until proven innocent instead of the other way around.
comacomacomacomachameleon
1/2: The real problem is how overburdened the court systems are. They don't have the time required for a proper hearing most of the time, so
comacomacomacomachameleon
2/2: the lawyer for the accused (often public defenders) convinces them to plea down the charges to just get it over with.
johnvictor
Much like the death penalty. One innocent person killed by it is one too many and shouldn't be used.
everyoneiskungfufighting
Nice platitude. Guarantee your sentiment changes when you become a victim of one or more of those guilty men.
ihaveweirdfetishes
Not according to Dwight Shrute
DoctorPitt
idk about that, depends on what they're guilty of.
Dangerneck
Not my quote. Paraphrased from Benji Franklin. Generally approved long standing maxim of law.
Flixster
I agree with old Ben. But it doesn't seem like we follow that rule, rather we usually err on the side of over-punishment. Maybe I'm wrong.
insertsupercoolusernamehere
No, Walter, you're not wrong... Seriously, though, the poorer and darker you are the more fucked you get in court.
DoctorPitt
To those people who downvoted me, read this because this train of thought bothers me. Yes an innocent man going to prison is horrible 1/2
DoctorPitt
But do you honestly think that it is better to say have 1,000 child molesters or killers, go free is better? 2/2
aceebro
Yup.
Dangerneck
Sage wisdom, until it's you who spends 3 decades imprisoned for something you didn't do. That's not justice.
DoctorPitt
I never claimed it was justice. that man was wronged and no one can deny that.
creepwood
You're one of the things that is wrong with this world.
DoctorPitt
Because I chose to look at a statement and question it?