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Feb 18, 2017 7:45 PM
TheChosonJuan
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CredibleInformant
FirstDagger
Actual footage from WW2
Swedish007
What "people" believe that..?
Swedish007
Muricans?
Generalfertileloins
+ 1 for chicken
SweatyYeti420
I've never heard someone say that the United States was the only allied force
catcherintherye
Nice, but an under-representation. USSR - 27 million dead. US+UK dead - only 1/2 million.
USD1
I was always under the impression that Japan put up much more of a fight than the size of its dinosaur would indicate.
USD1
Also this is the weirdest thing I ever wrote.
beefcurtain
There's a reason the US had to drop a couple meteors
USD1
fucking lol
CarllJohnson
How ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ americans think WWII was
MidlandRedux
Evidence, please?
MRSPRINKLZZZ
I wish people would stop repeating this. Only horribly misinformed people think this.
Grogisgood
Lol very very little people here think that.
lb01
Is that Mexico in the corner
MajesticIguana
I think it is. We sent a few planes, squad 201 was its name i think.
MetalSkeletal
Colorized footage
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hellsummon
Our technology sucked compared to Germany's. We just had the mass production advantage.
RozzAMcGee
That chicken tho
petety
Facts? Does OP have any idea the sheer scale of the D-Day invasion? Then add in fighting Japan after Pearl Harbor losses.
CootNasty
Imgur-where hating America is cool
Thechoochooman
Actual WW2 footage.
Mehhhhh69
But would the soviet union be able to push into germany without U.S and british support?
TheWoodpeckerSighed
Pretty sure most educated people know that americans came in late to both wars
FreddyBarnsniffer
The nazi's had no problems with the Russians until the allies opened a second front. Also halting Japan from attacking Russia.
smaug777000
Until Hitler attacked russia?
mikage
Nazis were stopped at Moscow before any meaningful western support. Resources started to flow only in late 1942. Nazis were aready retreatin
PenileErection
Nazis had no problems until the winter came
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Well they also had a big problem fighting a two front war
MrBlondeDanceOff
I feel much better now that Poland is included.
zutaramyotp
how people think Americans think it was
BananaJack
The French resistance was fucking awesome, I see shit like this and realize you have no clue what you are talking about.
ncsio
LOL
JohnnyTitelips
So was the Yugoslavian resistance but neither was critical to the Allied victory.
ErebusTheSonOfChaos
Actually Yugoslavia & Greece are the reason Hitler waited to invade Russia & that delay cost him dearly. Fighting through Russian winter.
JohnnyTitelips
More Greece than Yugoslavia, and that hypothetical is still a hypothetical. +1 though because I don't know why people downvoted you.
smaug777000
total lack of communication on the axis powers, and lack of trust
MidlandRedux
Why do people keep posting this same bogus meme every few weeks? It's bad history and insults every nation that fought in the war.
Zellacat
It is useful propaganda if you are paying attention to where it is all leading.
MidlandRedux
The Russians are helping to spread it around these days.
Zellacat
And their minions who may not even realize who is manipulating their 'beliefs" & cult-like activities.
TradingCats4Nudes
that chicken tho
NuclearMonk
I honestly didn't know so many dinosaurs were involved.
waltjrimmer
The truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxln3a7GyfI
RealScienceMan
Have you not experienced the interactive documentary Dino-D-Day?
dathj
Why not just Dino-Day?
RealScienceMan
Hey I didn't name it.
Spkch
Thanks, my screen is now covered in coffee.
AnExcellentRectangle
I up voted this post because of this comment.
snowpig
If there was dinosaurs in world war 2 then how are they extinct? Wake up america
BababaMoooya1
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whalewatchers
That's why OP made this graphic!
flippingbear
Jurassic Park is actually a WW2 epic
iDontWantMyUsernameToBeMyRealNameAnymore
france is a chicken facing the wrong way lol
vliegtuig
France: "nope nope nope nope..."
RobertEmmet
What about the Japanese invasion of China through Mongolia?
YourBossAndLandlordLikePolitics
3 But Truman and his advisors (who were all staunchly anti-communist) wanted to show off our nukes to the Soviets.
Arsikere
*cough* NANJING *cough*
jucyblucy
That's why there are so many Dino fossils in Mongolia
YourBossAndLandlordLikePolitics
15-20 million Chinese died. 26-27 million Russians, 6 million Poles, 7 million Germans, 3 million Japanese, 400k Americans. Stalin won WW2.
YourBossAndLandlordLikePolitics
2 Also it's theorized that we didn't need to drop the bomb on the Japanese, that they would have surrendered once Stalin entered the fight.
uzerok
That doesn't fit into the Eurocentric view of WW2.
tomhark
* how americans think ww2 was.
JohnnyTitelips
We really don't think that.
YouSeemLikeAVeryCleverPerson
"the earth is 6000yo" only comes from USA
MidlandRedux
That is remarkably pointless.
Stopsquattinginthecurlrack
What does this have to do with anything?
phallicies
well, it comes from religion. and religion is silly regardless
WatcherNotCreeper
A religion based in Italy
scrottymcboogerballs7
Yeah i dont think so man. Most are just about we killed the japs and suhm nashzees
tomhark
would have been impossible without john wayne, and audi murphy.
CarmeloDynamite
Half the Russian dinosaurs didn't have teeth, if America didn't enter the war there would be no UK, France or Russia.
helgur
P. much false. The USSR would have beat Germany without US involvement. Lend lease only constituted only 2 and 14 percent in 41 and 42 of
helgur
the total aid. Not before 1943 the lend lease really started to kick in, by that time Germany had lost initiative. They would have beat them
helgur
albeit they wouldn't have ended up in Berlin in 1945, much later
CarmeloDynamite
After Germany pushed Brits into the Channel, at Dunkirk, Germany would only had USSR to deal with, if US didn't join in.
helgur
So? US didn't join in to the war almost a half a year after the invasion of USSR. And they didn't land in normandy before '44
CarmeloDynamite
Russia would had 2 fronts, Germany on the west side and Japan on the east side. I doubt Russia could have overcome that. But maybe.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Maybe
Dremulf
Im american. I know for a fact the war would have been lost without our lord and savior Cthulu!
Stopsquattinginthecurlrack
*some americans
Bobwithglasses
America funded the Brits and gave them weapons. The US and Winston Churchill not surrendering is what kept the Nazi's at bay. 1/
Bobwithglasses
Also the US had to deal with Japan first because of Pearl Harbor (which at the time was to weaken our navy so we didn't get in their way).
Macross2020
*uneducated americans
thesixthcourier
Yeah it really depends on where you go to school. I was taught that the US acted as relief, and Europe/Soviets absorbed most of the cost >
thesixthcourier
(both in lives and resources). My cousins were basically taught "Fuck yeah! Meric are the world police! Doing it all on our own!!" =/
user563235
*a great portion of americans
SpecimenSpiff
Haha, you got downvoted for provided a more accurate correction. The majority of people think that the US won the war single-handed.
BillyMaysHereWithOxiClean
You say 'more accurate' but neither of you provided proof to your claim.
user563235
:sigh: indeed. I've experienced this before,in person,several times. Most americans even believe USA defeated Russia.
Antihero13
Nah. I assumed the Russians sent bears on unicycles while we sent cowboys riding nukes painted like bald eagles.
cbp123
American here...we all know Russia didn't have dinosaurs
TheRadbeard
Actually, due to the lend-lease agreement the Russians utilised lots of American Dinos before creating their own, often superior Dinos
EggMarbles
Yeah, we all know the dinosaurs died out during the flood.
tomhark
america has the best dinosaurs, believe me, the best, everybody knows that.
NeverDunNuffin
They were YUGE.
liesuponlies
Besides some vets and some people from the South that can't let things go I don't think most Americans care what happened in WW2.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Not really it's one of the most well known wars due to the holocaust
liesuponlies
Didn't say they didn't know about the war. Said they didn't care as in not caring about all the parties involved and who pulled what weight
OlMuskyTheMartian
The fuck? This is by far one of our most interesting moments in recent history. How dark humanity became was insane.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
What do you mean by care? Because it's just common knowledge or learned in school what parties were involved. I can see what you mean tho
liesuponlies
I mean once the test is completed that info is generally purged as useless
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Because we didn't have any conflict on our soil except Pearl Harbor. So prob most Europeans "care" more because it happened where they are.
xenburnn
it was more like a continent wide pincer with a western anvil and an eastern hammer... the pacific was naval dotted with island battles
xenburnn
i mean at the end.
MidlandRedux
Any evidence for this asinine slur?
SacreDoom
'Cuz the Americans just swooped in when they were sure who'd win and tried to take the credit? It's not a big part of WW2 history in Europe.
MidlandRedux
Okay, any evidence for this even more ridiculous slur? What do you think happened between 1935 and 1945?
ImSoHM02
4 theater, however I think most Europeans forget we also fought in the Japanese theater, we lost a massive amount of military members, and
ImSoHM02
3 was because after WWI the public refused to enter another war, it was only til American Civilians got killed that we stepped into that
ImSoHM02
5 we were more focused on the Japanese theater and Northern Africa, although the war wouldn't have been won without everyone involved
SacreDoom
Sure, I'm not here to discredit the US, I just think, as you said, many Americans overestimate their involvement in the European scene.
ImSoHM02
2 by ourselves when we in fact didn't enter the euro theater into late in the game, this isn't because waited to see who would win tho it
MidlandRedux
Americans were fighting in the European theater before we ever entered the war. The US navy was escorting convoys from January 1941 . . .
ImSoHM02
American here: most Americans have a very strong view of WWII, however most Europeans are salty because we make it sound like we won the war
MidlandRedux
What I am trying to determine is WHY people think this. What do Americans do that makes European think we believe "we won the war?"
MidlandRedux
. . . It's one of those things that everyone seems to believe but no once can say exactly how or why it happens.
GoodNewsCigaretteJuice
Eh, lots of us know that we used Russia as hitler-fodder
MidlandRedux
No, Stalin used Russians as Hitler fodder. The rest of us were trying to win a world war without getting millions of our people killed.
GoodNewsCigaretteJuice
Lets not pretend we didn't let the eastern front drag on longer than we could have before intervening
MidlandRedux
There's no need for pretending. That quite definitely never happened. The Western allies fought the Germans from 1939 on, the United . . .
MidlandRedux
. . . States began supplying the British in June of 1940, at the same time the Russians were supplying the Nazis . . .
smaug777000
The American GDP surpassed Russia's in terms of production several times over. England produced more planes and tanks than Germany (1/2)
smaug777000
Every single year except one. Japan's navy was the second largest in the world and had the best torpedo. These dinosaurs are inaccurate(2/2)
smaug777000
Unless you're going by casualties, in which case you need to include upwards of 10-20 million Chinese casualties
smaug777000
I mean, Japan killed 7x as many people as it lost, Hitler had almost the entire european union on his side or had conquered it except for
smaug777000
England, and King Edward was a fucking Nazi sympathiser. If it wasn't for Winston Churchill, Hitler may have been unchecked in Europe
smaug777000
I could go on forever, but let's just say I hate this portrayal even though the basic idea that the Eastern front was a major battleground-
ImToxxiic
I am certain that stalin was worse than hitler the only reason he's not shunned like he should be is that he helped win.
Nightmarespawnx
"History is written by the victors. "
zipfel73m
once you make it to the top 5 of world's biggest assholes, ranking is not that important anymore.
Rifneno
1-At least he IS portrayed as a monster. I still wanna know why Leopold II of Belgium is basically unknown by the average joe rather than
Rifneno
2-being portrayed as the absolute evil he was. Probably quite a few more examples that I don't know because I'm an average joe. We only
Rifneno
3-demonize Hitler and Stalin because we were at odds with them. How many unrecognized monsters weren't we at odds with?
IUpvoteBoxes
Not an evil we fought or even really dealt with. Same reason why people dont know kublai.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
It's because Hitler's method appears more calculated. Something about the widespread use of human gas chambers is sickening.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Not "something", everything
SonOfOden
Sure more humane way than Stalin just starving people to death purposefully. Not any less calculated just different methods.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
It also probably has to do with Hitler looking like a psycho and Stalin looking like an uncle
smaug777000
The only thing the Allied powers had in common was that they were attacked (USA, USSR) or an ally (Poland) was attacked (bring in the UKetc)
MixMasterPants
There is plenty of criticism of Stalin in the history books. The man was a ruthless totalitarian. Takes a lunatic to beat a lunatic?
SprinklesMckitten
Stalin had his own game and if he wasn't such a bad leader, operation barbarossa would never have reached Volgagrad
DelightLlama
https://vimeo.com/128373915
Leinkugel
"History is written by the winners."
AnPeople
*victors. But close one
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
It's because Hitler's method appears more calculated. Something about the widespread use of human gas chambers is sickening.
Zellacat
Yes taking their food or marooning them on islands, so they starve to death, is a lot more cost effective.
Zellacat
Yes taking their food or marooning them on islands, so they starve to death, is a lot more cost effective.
mikage
"I am certain that stalin was worse than hitler " then you doesn't know history
ICanCookReallyGoodScrambledEggs
That and a lack of ethnic cleansing
RapeAllPedophiles
Soviets cleansed a lot more ethnicities than Hitler. please don't spread such lies. I know jews are special snowflakes but still...
ICanCookReallyGoodScrambledEggs
enlighten me. As far as I know they only deported certain races.
ICanCookReallyGoodScrambledEggs
enlighten me. As far as I know they only deported certain races.
Mushroombadger
Yeah I would count deporting people based on race to Siberia where about 48% of the people sent there died as cleansing.
kunilingas
You could look at the Holodomor for example, but it's just one thing of many
apercent
To say Stalin is worse than Hitler is like saying A man who hit two people on the road by accident is worse than a rapist
BrofessorDumbleBro
6 Million to 25 Million. Stalin has him beat in numbers and maliciousness.
apercent
Numbers I agree, but maliciousness? Genocide ousts starvation any day
BrofessorDumbleBro
He did a ton of genocide based off race and religion. More so than Hitler.
apercent
Source? I say he didn't do as much genocide as Hitler.
FirstEdition
6 million was only the Jews. An estimated 11 million total non-combatants were killed by the Hitler regime.
ImToxxiic
Thats still a ridiculous difference in numbers alone
FirstEdition
Sure, but the number includes deaths due to starvation etc. Estimated 1.5 million executed by Stalin regime pales in comparison to HItler
fnordgasm5
Did your teachers not cover the cold war during history class?
Drakhma
Cold war in high school history?! Wow that sounds interesting tell you what invent a time machine and tell my history teacher about that 1/2
apercent
I had a year of the cold war in both the states I took school in... but that's none of my business
Drakhma
2/2 because she only taught us about ancient china, ancient china, little tid bits about the revolution and more ancient china
ImToxxiic
Since Im german, no not really all we ever talked about when it came to those years how evil hitler and how good the others were until DDR.
ImToxxiic
Then we talke about communism being bad and then it was all about the wall. Barely anything else. And if I said shit like this out in the
ImToxxiic
Open i'd be fucking lynched and called a nazi, racist, sexist, homophope you get what I mean.
lurkinginthecorner
He certainly killed more people, but it was less targeted by ethnic group etc. More keeping everyone poor and starving, and controlled.
AreYouGonnaBuySomethingNoImJustDancingToTheHumOfYourFridge
Tfw you killed three times more than the nazis but you didn't do it because of race so people think you're a good guy
lurkinginthecorner
Definitely not a good guy. I'm just pointing out differences of approach.
17arkOracle
The Ukrainians might disagree.
Dsoir
Ukrainians didnt get it any worse than some other ethnic groups Tattars ocetians and on and on. Russians bellorussians ukrainians are slavs
mikage
He didn't. Stop repeating this myth.
lurkinginthecorner
Er...he did. Many millions more.
mikage
Even with holodomor you will get 17mil for Stalin, 27 for Hitler. And that is only because Hitler had no chance to execute general plan ost
lurkinginthecorner
Persecution wise it's widely believed to be 6-7mil under Hitler, whilst a conservative estimate is 20mil under Stalin!
lurkinginthecorner
WW2 wise it's considered roughly even with around 20mil on each side, but again could range much higher.
Cadifohuli
So instead of mainly targeting 1 group of people, he killed all groups of people... And this is better?
lurkinginthecorner
Never said better. Just pointing out the differences. Horribly oversimplified differences, but still generally correct.
oheeohahahtingtangwallawallabingbang
It's called equality you bigot
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
And because he didn't have racist intentions.
RapeAllPedophiles
Serious? damn your american education is shite. Stalin purged and/or dislocated dozens of ethnicities and cultures and religions.....
mikage
Yes, but not because he was racist. It was a way to consolidate power/country. Only groups opposing communist rule were prosecuted.
FindYourChillMate
Yeh but he never threatened the nice friendly western european countries. Only the weird eastern ones
RapeAllPedophiles
Hitler was wannabe racist small fish compared to likes of Stalin and Mao who in name of Atheism killed many millions.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Okay first y do you instantly go after me having a bad education? You don't know where or how I got mine so please back off. And I didn't
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Know that and now I do. You didn't have to be a dick.
apercent
I'm a stop you right there. American schools would LOVE to teach us that Stalin was worse than Hitler.
apercent
However, Stalin killed about 20 million people by accident and neglect. Not the same as straight war mongering and genocide
nelshai
Many former Soviet nations would disagree with you on the genocide part. And as for the war mongering... Read about the Molotov pact or-
nelshai
(3) Mao Zedong can be said to be neglectful. Stalin, however, was a cold, calculating and malicious individual who hated the world.
nelshai
The Finnish war. Voluntary forces in Spain, Indochinese/Korean wars as well as the numerous wars in China and attempted coups on nations.
apercent
You can say that Stalin is a bigger murderer, but Hitler is eviler, there is no question
nelshai
American schools teach that people are eviler than others? No wonder media from the USA has such a black and white view on morality at times