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https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-04-10/china-serbia-missiles
Apr 11, 2022 2:20 AM
IdontEatBooty
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https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-04-10/china-serbia-missiles
xprmnt2209
If US can. . .So is China.
Ig0rski
Whenever serbia is mensioned, the accordion starts playing in my head
qwertdeep
Not enough negative news about China recently so OP is showing that China keeps its end in trade deals?
JackSnare
China, feeling that they haven't directly murdered enough children, export the means to murder more.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
#2 this is false, they flew ibto Batajnica
MonsieurToastt
Which country are they going to start causing massacres in now?
Rugmier
Shhh ?, show don’t tell
PicassoCT
Selling arms to both sides.. Swiss of the east
polarbearbaby
China continues to be asshoe.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Honoring deals is ashole?
RElGNMAN
Serbia right now.
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Mikadomea
DerpMeister
FK-3, not HQ-22. The FK-3 is a downgraded export version of the HQ-22 (less range, probably less RADAR or ECM effectivness). The deal
DerpMeister
between China and Serbia was announced in August 2020, so no real suprise here anyway.
autodidacticcortex
It wasn’t nefarious or secret. Discrete might be a better word. And it was agreed on and scheduled long ago. Someone got cute w/ clickbait
brianbrian4566
Ww3 is coming, i cant wait for the memes!
IllegalAlienFromOuterSpace
China gives it to Serbia. Serbia gives it to Russia. Russia gives it to Ukraine. Ukraine gives it to the US and her allies. Its a win-win.
Corvidqueen
As an aside, I'm glad Nikola tesla has an airport.
Lordbeezlebub
"China makes a semisecret delivery! Read all about it! Read all about how China makes this secret delivery! RIGHT HERE ON THE LA TIMES!"
mondeca
walaishy
It would be easier on everyone if they just gave it directly to the Ukrainian army.
DukePhelan
Nothing secret about it. If its mulitary and flies in the air, over/under the sea or over the earth the US intelligence is always watching.
evawin
I can only imagine how Bosnia and Kosovo are feeling after this news.
Deadpoolisfunny
I dream of the world boycotting China. That would make me so happy.
Frozenspokes
If you are thinking that Chinese transport looks a LOT like a C-17. You would be correct. That wasn't an accident.
amomentarylapseofreason
Yup, they stole a lot of data for the c-17 and made a copy.
Vesane
Oh, I thought they literally were C17s rebranded. Are they actually pretending it's something different?
Frozenspokes
When you don't have the ability to design your own, lift somebody else's plans.
DarkSock
Is it just me or does that large aircraft look like a complete rip-off of the Boeing C-17 Globemaster?
iChase79
A military craft looking like a civilian craft.... could it be a tactical choice?
Vesane
Maybe an attempt to get access to civilian airspace like in Australia? (Jks)
Sixsystems
They also have a knockoff version of the UH-60 Blackhawk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin_Z-20
DarkSock
I mean, shit… If China ever defeats America, then who will their janky hack asses plagiarize from…?
qwertdeep
It’s ironic when you consider history and how the British literally stole and copied the tea trade from China and made a fortune off of it
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Why is this news?
somedeepshitgoeshere
Shitty timing, if anything
ExistentialDreadlocks
I wouldn't worry. They're made in China.
subrosaflorens
Is Serbia hoping to assassinate another Archduke?
BearUnhinged
Too soon ?
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
That happened in Austria.
subrosaflorens
It was done by Gavrilo Princip, an agent working for the Black Hand, which was the secret intelligence agency of Serbia.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Gavrilo Princip was a member of "Mlada Bosna", wich was an organization in Bosnia, part of the Auatrian relm.
subrosaflorens
And they worked for the Black Hand. They had to get permission from the Black Hand to do the hit. Gavrilo was a Serb, who was born in Bosnia
subrosaflorens
And it was annexed by Austria. It was not *part* of Austria. It was conquered by Austria.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Exactly, he was an A-H cityzen, living in A-H acting in A-H
subrosaflorens
And the murder happened in Sarajevo, which was ruled by the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, but was not part of Austria. That was the whole point
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
It was part of the Austrial relm inside the A-H
subrosaflorens
No, it was a land being dominated by a foreign empire. AH was a collection of places Austria had conquered. They were not *part* of Austria.
InTangier
What the fuck is China thinking? Escalating it further? Also, fuck Serbia for this.
Eidodk
Huh... Serbia is close partners with Nato. Members of the Partnership for Peace.
HeHulk
Serbia is a toxic wasteland of genocidal maniacs.
USSBigBooty
In their eyes anything short of nuclear war (literal fallout) in Europe benefits them. Right now by sending supplies and saying nothing...
DairyCat
How does it it benefit them for their 2nd largest trade market to be at war?
MrHailstone
It does not but some people still want make the ukraine war bigger then it is
MrHailstone
Thats just wrong. Europe and China have healthy trade relations and China is always going for the money.
USSBigBooty
They can play both sides against the middle.
SoberAndBored
The entire West: "HEY! That's OUR gig!"
svamenzi
Serbia neither supports Russia nor its 'military operation' in Ukraine. You can check the sanctions list to see which countries have 1/2
svamenzi
2/2 supported them.
MrHailstone
This is an old arms deal, whats wrong with you people.
Krakencrotch
An arms deal that Serbia has been repeatedly warned not to go through with, both then and now.
plutonium
Then again, they are an independent nation with the sovereign right to choose their own security arrangements.
Krakencrotch
They also have the right to kiss their EU membership goodbye, because ditching the rockets was a clear condition.
plutonium
Certainly. Sovereignty does not remove consequences from actions.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Fuck Serbia for buying a deffense system?
friendsofsandwiches
shit be ramping up, yo.
Cilvaa
WWIII here we come ladies and gents!!
DaddyRobotBeepBoop
M4Firefly
and on fire yo
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
No. No it don’t be.
DavidBrooker
I'd not sure I'd frame it that way. Despite Chinese military systems being technologically on-par (and often superior) to Russian 1/2
DavidBrooker
equipment, they've struggled to find foreign customers aside from, like, just Pakistan. Although sales like this don't happen overnight, 2/3
DavidBrooker
and probably wasn't directly influenced by the invasion of Ukraine, it does point to people looking for alternatives to Russia. France 3/4
DavidBrooker
has historically filled the need of people seeking equipment both "not Russian" and "not American", but China hopes to as well. 4/4
CleverGroom
That's how shit be ramping up, yo: More and more regimes are finding that China is a serviceable alternative to the democratic world.
Murderface828
Very informative, thank you. Seriously ?
Cheomesh
Serbia paid for these in 2020.
ageek3000
No one said the ramp up happened overnight. For example, Russia's invasion of Ukraine started in 2014. They took a break under Trump... 1/2
ageek3000
while they almost convinced him to remove the US from NATO. That was unsuccessful and now the ramping continues. 2/2
wargames
these were bought years ago and are just now being delivered. It doesn't have to do with russia being a shitlord.
theyar
It really doesn't matter that they were ordered three years ago and it does have to do with it.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Plus an anti-air weapon doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would help Russia much in Ukraine right now.
DaveSamsonite
The timing is very suspicious and Russia under Putin destroying Ukraine w/o provocation is not just “being a shitlord.”
BigBloop
Correction: They can still be delivered to Russia. Time of the trade does not remove that possibility.
dmarting
THIS!!! While this is definitely shit timing, these were purchased in 2019 and are being delivered on time and in the open
MAN9000
Russia started invading Ukraine in 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
VirtualNaut
On time delivery?! It just sounds like normal delivery. You ever bought something from AliExpress?
sas1946botwolf
Lmao as an AliExpress user this comment is underrated, however, I'm fortunate somehow to always have my stuff within 2 weeks, 3 max somehow.
monkeymuffins
But then how will you experience the joy of ordering something and then having it turn up months later, after you've forgotten all about it?
Neednoggle
I prefer to buy my surface to air missiles from McMaster Carr. Their website is just so much more user friendly.
khora
Perhaps the delivery was sped up.
MajorasTerribleFate
I haven't verified anything, but dmarting said in a response to the same comment you responded to that the delivery was "on time".
varonicaED
Since when does a military contract ever get delivered "on time", that alone makes it suspect!
MAN9000
Russia started invading Ukraine in 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
LovelyMover
The reason for most of these endless conflicts, & there are a few atm, was to block countries joining NATO. Its fing horrific
Shineupordown
yeah don't see where is the news.. countries buy military equipment/missiles/ammo every week it seems like it
TheKoolAidMans
it probably is related to Russia being a shitlord in some way its not like its new. probably stocking up incase they are the next target.
LovelyMover
Only an issue if they turn up in Ukraine
DaveSamsonite
They will get shipped to Russia
LovelyMover
Serbia being their door dash...fuckers.
stinkonamonkey
Doubtful. Russia has equal or better systems of their own.
DaveSamsonite
Very doubtful. There have been sanctions on them for years and China has leading companies in every single field, Russia has lost so much
Redisia
They already shot down a civilian plane years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
kittybuttwiggle
or if it winds up covering another round of ethnic cleansing of bosnians
LovelyMover
Ethnic cleansing means moving people from one place to another. What's happening in Ukraine is on a whole other level, its more genocidal.
kittybuttwiggle
Call it what you will, Bosnian war, genocide, "remove kebab", the point is there are still things to worry about other than Ukraine.
LovelyMover
Bosnia war dead 100k in almost 4 years, Ukraine is at half that in WEEKS. THATS THE DIFFERENCE
kittybuttwiggle
Well this genius replied and then blocked me before I had a chance to find out what the hell argument they think they're even making. Nuts.
BushDidWolf359
What exactly is semisecret?
madeejit
It was a secret. And now it isn't.
zenoshogun
When they don't put out a press release.
FlyingButtPliers
Russian military communication appears transparent to Western military at this point. We're just broadcasting their moves to demonstrate?
Sooner70
Any questions get, "I can neither confirm nor deny...."
GNiko
They didn't bang about it on Twitter, but the purchase was a matter of public record. Seems that's what it means nowadays.
thatguyisreallydeep
Merriam-Webster's definition seems quite apt: "not publicly announced but widely known nevertheless".
harthram
A discreet eighteen-wheeler?
FellaWithUmbrella
Not the one yelling about ”MuH fReEdUmS!”
3Davideo
More sugar than bittersecret but no added dairy products like milk secret.
kanemano
didn't send out a press release in triplicate
therealalansmithee
In triplate. How old are you?
JiggleboobMcSugartit
the opposite of secret
khora
They didn't tell anyone and everyone figured it out.
Lostedge
Who goes around telling we are going to transport missiles now.
Rockdusty
North Korea
zombiebatman
I’m transporting a missile right now
zombiebatman
Ask my wife
Rockdusty
That’s disgusting leave it in the loo god sake
DavidBrooker
That six PLA cargo aircraft flew to Serbia is public knowledge, but their cargo is officially secret. The HQ-22 missile system is the 1/2
DavidBrooker
only logical cargo they could have been carrying, but neither China nor Serbia has confirmed this. 2/2
BushDidWolf359
Ahh that makes sense, never heard the term before. Thanks!
ALifeMosaicSoProsaic
Awesome User Name btw!
BushDidWolf359
Thanks…I’m just asking questions!
sorosfieldops
It's a thing the US does all the time but when the chinese do it they call it semisecret to make it sound menacing
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
This ^^^^
AnEngineerWithNoFriends
A boner flipped up into your waistband.
readbackmonkey
It’s like a secret you tell Trump, so he can tell everyone else
Babomonkey
Apparently the front page of imgur.
CanadaDryGingerMale
Not sure but maybe this Sam guy they’re talking about can comment
cobacalao
Topless Victoria's Secret
PalaverQuader
half open? in german there is a "offenes geheimnis" .. "open secret" stuff that is supposedly secret but everyone knows about.
rumandbass
Low percentage of cocoa.
OverthoughtUnderedited
Delicious
Gayforbae
Its a type of chocolate chips. Like semisweet.
SJSHARPei
Between top and bottom secret. Idk.
Ratiofarming
Not officially announcing, but not making effort to conceal it.
stereomiljac8888
They know Croatia is buying planes from France.
davernow
The purchase was public record. The delivery wasn’t.
auldsong
No bragging rights
mondeca
I could tell you, but I'd have to kick you in the shins really hard.
OverthoughtUnderedited
It's like semisweet chocolate. Or inflammable materials. Semipermeable membranes. Etc etc. Et.cetera.
CgnCalling
They are mounted on a semi. And it’s a secret.
TheWorldAccordingToAtlas
Half the plane was stealth.
BaahPMunnie
A newer longer lasting deodorant for women.
BushDidWolf359
But you only apply it to one arm
IusallypoopwhileImonhere
Strong enough for a man made for amputee
PalaverQuader
nah thats the new Gùessìt: which arm is it under? u never know.
madeejit
But which one? That's my secret...
ElbowdeepinAgony
Works as a great snack on the go as well. Lasts 48 hours
HandoB4Javert
Like a semitrailer?
OverthoughtUnderedited
Semitrucktractortrailereighteenwheeler truck
PrincipalVaginaHereNoRelation
If it’s semi, you would think shorter lasting
VirtualNaut
Shhh… that’s the secret.
PalaverQuader
ohhhh!