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Isaypoopythingsbecausemostofyouannoyme
Buddy told you after Fast and Furious 1 came out. People putting Nos in their car without any other upgrade started coming in a lot
TheLastSonOfKrypton
Don't worry Fernando ... we'll get a Renault engine next year . McLaren shall rise again .
Thelema
Well, there's your problem.
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tangybreath
As far as i'm aware, 5k to 10k is fine.
Briicareful
Yikes
Chech
Just needs a little blue pill.
MikeyTheSurfer
kylo ??
Crushn8tor
10k changes with an excellent oil/filter is doable. Not with 18 lbs of boost though.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
shouldbestudying
puppyflips
straikychan
When ya dick slides out but she keep sittin down on it
servingmytimeinusersub
See kids, this is what happens when you don't keep your tires properly inflated.
DavelyGrave
Piston is where piston ought not be.
Robtri
European ... oil change between 10k and 30k, most models. No issues
demanu
looks expensieve
shimmernshine
total rebuild at the very least, and the block itself was probably stressed by the event, so better to just replace it.
lindabelchersfirstcousin
aye Dios mio!
ThatOtherGuyFromNorway
I have one and only one question. How?
battlepants
Looks like the bang rod slid out of the boom shaft, then by the power of the other bang rods, the hole thing fuckered off sideways.
Vexilaris
crank it up
bigbluewrangler
And that is the reason you should go with forged connecting rods instead of cast when running lots of boost
CodeChimpin
My CW Jetta maintenance schedule said oil changes were every 10k. My Passat is every 5k, but it's because it's turbo.
Err, VW
MisterOp
What am I looking at
DukePhelan
Something very expensive. Its a bent piston, engine is screwed and will required replacement of the piston at the very least.
copingcabana
From piston to pistoff on 2 seconds
ciaozzza
Could someone explain what is happening in this photo? Also how many miles should I be waiting between changes?
ORCNOTPORK
Depends, check your car's manual. Traditional oil = 3k miles/6 months (whichever comes first). Synthetic varies, mine's every 12k miles.
JamiesEPIRB
Follow your manufacturers guidance in the owners manual, maybe a little sooner depending on the driving conditions.
Ravenbreaker
They say every 3k, but thats for stop and go all day traffic. depending on year, you can probably go 5-6 as long as you change filter @ 3k
Assuming you're not leaking oil or anything like that. But if you're ever in doubt, just go every 3k, but dont be TOO worried if you go over
Lawlerer9999
No lube destroys internals. 5000 regular oil 10 to 15k full synthetic
KingOfCitrus
I have no former knowledge on this whatsoever, but it looks like the piston was somehow caught on the edge at high speed 1/2
2/2 and warped by high pressure.
alltheusernamesaretakenbacon
@ciaozzza this is mostly likely the result of a knock event (pre detonation of the fuel) which can happen when cars are running high boost.
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
And they didn't run race gas (very high octane gasoline, prevents detonation)
Asymmetrica
piston got bended. this kills the piston. also bt 3k and 10k miles you should change oil depending on how new ur car is
shroomigator
The bar that holds the piston while the piston goes up and down has been bent by the massive force of whatever was burned in that engine
UsernameTakenObviously
In the UK? Like 10 - 15k miles
Increased boost and didn't use race gas, had detonation. Cylinder go boom.
ChillWinstonCharlieKnewitwasme
http://www.tv2.no/a/6129523/ its Norwegian news but this guy ran his car 300 000km without oil/filterchange
crypticorb
I have a 2006 VW Jetta, TDI Diesel, and it takes 5W-40 synthetic, owners manual specifies every 10k miles, but I typically go 7-8k.
discollama
Wait...so I've been extra careful because I usually get mine changed every 2.5k miles? I thought I was reckless!
clutchthepearls
You're wasting money, not being reckless.
Why do all my cars break then? I must have really awful luck with cars. That's depressing.
LeDonoMkIV
Poor quality fuel can cause issues. Any alcohol contaminates in low grade fuel can change the properties of the oil.
IndefinetelyTired
I've been told changing it too much can damage the engine pretty well. No idea why. Internal parts are affected by it, not external btw.
So like alternator, water pump, etc, those just...break over time. Besides that, you could just be running too hard on the cars.
I still do the factory recommend every 3k. But I drive maybe 4500 miles a year at present so it is mainly to keep the oil fresh.
LeadByBadExample
Do you ever feel not so fresh down there? Remember to change oil frequently.
Depends. On my 95 Blazer, i did 4k with a synthetic blend. On my 16 Charger, i plan 5-6k.
Guitarizard
5K on my '16 Challenger
DrkBluePenguin
01 Blazer I do mine every 3kish
FullSynth
I was never brave enough to do full. She had a verybslow leak that didn't show until 4k. About a quart dropped after that far on my blend
aevansk1177
Does your charger have the hemi or 3.6
Homie i wish i had a Hemi. SO said no. So I'm stuck with the 3.6.
Well if you ever get one make sure to only put premium gas in. With the 3.6 have your oil change done every 5k. Source I work for dodge
badmedic504
Wait! I have the 5.7 Hemi, why only premium fuel?
No shit? I was thinkin Plus grade at minimum. Thanks man.
gaugetx
Average oil change is around 3k miles. Some oils and newer cars can go longer. I seen some other day that said 5k mile oil.
fightinirish
There is 20k Mobil one at every store now
maxxjq
Our odyssey just did almost 10k before telling me to change. Full synthetic FTW.
marsgoose
This is actually a cultural thing in US, for instance in most of Europe 10k kilometers is considered the proper interval
You can find the actual interval in your cars manual or in oil spec, use the shorter of the two.
thoushaltnotpass
Mazda recommends 20K km on their recent cars. No way I'd do it every 3 months.
Norfolkanchancehere
My BMW will do 18 k between changes.
grenzdebil
So does mine. Can't understand a change every 3000 miles, that seems ridiculous.
dohcohv
Oil and filter are cheaper. My Miata is 3-4k but costs $4 for the filter and just over 3qts.
thecarace
Depends on how much u love your car. Standard conventional oil max life 3000 miles and filter, full synthetic max life 10k .
billison
Amsoil is 25k :P
Amsoil is good stuff but extremely expensive. I doubt this guy would buy it. There are many variables to your pil choices. Cast iron, alumin
Haha yeah it really is.. I only use their gear oil and then Mobil 1 for motor oil. Amsoil is so friggen hard to find where I live too..
Zinc or none. Still 25k is a lot on a filter, your choice my friend
Oil doesn't go bad it just gets contaminated. I recommend half of those numbers and never over fill.
PDXfishing
You can't blanket statement these things. My Merc is every 10k, my Yota is just fine at 7.5k with synthetic. Get you oil tested to be sure.
080080
found the penzoil employee
Over filling depends on the motor and what younare doing with it. 1 quart extra on track days for my LS2 is a MUST
I am pretty sure the guy asking about when to change his oil is not a racer hitting high g takeoffs and continued corners... lol
I was only giving general advice for average drivers, special driving requires different rules.
Schtayfe
3k for conventional, 5k for synthetic blend, 7.5k for full synthetic. But it also depends on your driving habits and filter choice.
Mobil has a synthetic oil that they claim lasts 20k or 1 year. But it's 60 bucks for 5 quarts.
JeffGodofBiscuits
After we got married, I gave my wife's CR-V it's first oil and filter change. The car had 30,000 miles. God Bless Honda.
Branch68
i bought an Elantra brand new and the first time i changed the was some time after the 60k mile mark, still ran great
Aracanus
It's sad that Honda don't have that kind of reliability in F1
FuckinDoneWithThisShit
she sure sounds like your average cr-v owner
cklepper
I drove my old piece of shit Ford Windstar for about 3 months without any antifreeze in it. That thing would not die.
Shabado
had a 96 aerostar. That thing was beast. Overheated to the point where it turned itself off. fired up a few hours later. would not die
schrodingersasymmetric12gauge
Some full synthetic oil (see Amsoil) is actually rated for 25,000 miles. You just need to change the filter to clean the carbon.
JonSnowNotedWindmillExpert
My Mitsubishi once went 40,000km without any maintenance or breakdowns. Then I sold it to some guy on Craigslist.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
I wonder how that worked out for him...
cantbeasadmuffin
Ok but many girls take care of our cars, we're broke af can't afford the consequences of no upkeep
ElbowDeepInMythicalCreatures
I know girls who are way worse with cars at upkeep than my redneck friends who treat theirs like it's their entirety, even when broke to hel
Yea my point was you take care of your car if you're too broke to buy another one did you not get it?
I did not.
I gave my wife's 4runner first spark plug, gear oil and fuel filter change at 270k. Turns out it can go faster than 60 without a misfire
She did bring it in for service every 6 months, they just didn't do shit.
SuperLuminalMan
Got my first scooter... 34,000Km on the clock, last service was at 180
thevortexmaster
I had my Ford Ranger for 12 years never broke down once with minimal upkeep. I think I changed the oil twice
iMaySayWhatever
I knew a guy that did that, Is your last name stanaland?
Hahaha no
He worked with me, probably had 100-120k miles on his Ranger on original oil. No joke. He told us and we were like GO GET IT CHANGED NOW.
Hahaha crazy!
twolflouie
My old ranger ran better without oil.. oil just made it smoke and sputter. Ran fine without. Lol
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
I once went to change a Toyota trucks oil, the dipstick was completely dry, no one had even checked in years.
LordMagnus
God Bless Toyota. i had a 1995 Camry I bought used in 2007 w 40K miles on it. Put 300K miles on it for work before it was impounded.
She would add a quart when the light came on, but that was all the love it got
HitlersClonedButthole
Bought a 87 toyota 4x4 (hilux) with 250k miles. Oil games out like cold syrup and super burnt. Ran fine until I sold it at 350k miles.
edmundo47
I once checked the stick in our Fiat Punto that my brother drives. Bone dry...
Of course, the light wasn't on for some italian reason.
all that oil is heavy, just slows the car down
HandoB4Javert
Not the worst maintenance. Does she do the same for you?
Sadly, I don't seem to leak much
MitchBeaucannon
You just wait a few years.
Zippla
Step 1... get a light.
garmagor
You are a good man, Jeff.
morgan0073
That looks like hydro lock. Water doesn't compress very well.
OhSpartacus
Hydrolock is exactly what I was thinking
Nope. Increased boost and didn't use race gas, had detonation.
mistermichigan
That's what I was thinking as well.
Backstagepimp
Sounds like jay Leno any time he talks about his steam cars.
CandyVanMan
It's probably more like a knock knock joke, if it was running big boost.
Higher boost would result in a knock event especially if they were running pump gas.
dystopunk
Water is just incomprehensible
Nelan2010
Technically not, but without going to extremes then basically it is
xRoyalWolfx
Whoosh
Typo or not, I'm gonna upvote that. And use it as a motto.
charlie2979
Na. Water as well as everything else is compressible. Just takes alot of energy for minimal compression.
Looks like me and about 4 other people misread that. Incomprehensible. Funny.
MarkHughes
Yea, my first thought too, In my experience more boost will blow holes in pistons and headgaskets not bend conrods.
At the shop a bad coolant leak will destroy a power assembly like that.
Bob570
Depends on the engine. A VW 1.8T will bend the stock rods around 300 wtq, but everything else is good for a lot more.
I main experience is with Nissan engines, So the first job with the 1.8T is a set of rods then ? How far will they go after ?
Metriixx
Rods and bearings can get you to 500ish. If you do pistons too, sky is the limit on that crank and block.
Yup, rods are always first if you plan on breaking 300 wtq. I haven't been into modding VWs in a while so my recollection is hazy, but I 1/2
want to say everything else is good for 500+ whp with around 400 wtq.
Isaypoopythingsbecausemostofyouannoyme
Buddy told you after Fast and Furious 1 came out. People putting Nos in their car without any other upgrade started coming in a lot
TheLastSonOfKrypton
Don't worry Fernando ... we'll get a Renault engine next year . McLaren shall rise again .
Thelema
Well, there's your problem.
[deleted]
[deleted]
tangybreath
As far as i'm aware, 5k to 10k is fine.
Briicareful
Yikes
Chech
Just needs a little blue pill.
MikeyTheSurfer
kylo ??
Crushn8tor
10k changes with an excellent oil/filter is doable. Not with 18 lbs of boost though.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
shouldbestudying
puppyflips
straikychan
When ya dick slides out but she keep sittin down on it
servingmytimeinusersub
See kids, this is what happens when you don't keep your tires properly inflated.
DavelyGrave
Piston is where piston ought not be.
Robtri
European ... oil change between 10k and 30k, most models. No issues
demanu
looks expensieve
shimmernshine
total rebuild at the very least, and the block itself was probably stressed by the event, so better to just replace it.
lindabelchersfirstcousin
aye Dios mio!
ThatOtherGuyFromNorway
I have one and only one question. How?
battlepants
Looks like the bang rod slid out of the boom shaft, then by the power of the other bang rods, the hole thing fuckered off sideways.
Vexilaris
crank it up
bigbluewrangler
And that is the reason you should go with forged connecting rods instead of cast when running lots of boost
CodeChimpin
My CW Jetta maintenance schedule said oil changes were every 10k. My Passat is every 5k, but it's because it's turbo.
CodeChimpin
Err, VW
MisterOp
What am I looking at
DukePhelan
Something very expensive. Its a bent piston, engine is screwed and will required replacement of the piston at the very least.
copingcabana
From piston to pistoff on 2 seconds
ciaozzza
Could someone explain what is happening in this photo? Also how many miles should I be waiting between changes?
ORCNOTPORK
Depends, check your car's manual. Traditional oil = 3k miles/6 months (whichever comes first). Synthetic varies, mine's every 12k miles.
JamiesEPIRB
Follow your manufacturers guidance in the owners manual, maybe a little sooner depending on the driving conditions.
Ravenbreaker
They say every 3k, but thats for stop and go all day traffic. depending on year, you can probably go 5-6 as long as you change filter @ 3k
Ravenbreaker
Assuming you're not leaking oil or anything like that. But if you're ever in doubt, just go every 3k, but dont be TOO worried if you go over
Lawlerer9999
No lube destroys internals. 5000 regular oil 10 to 15k full synthetic
KingOfCitrus
I have no former knowledge on this whatsoever, but it looks like the piston was somehow caught on the edge at high speed 1/2
KingOfCitrus
2/2 and warped by high pressure.
alltheusernamesaretakenbacon
@ciaozzza this is mostly likely the result of a knock event (pre detonation of the fuel) which can happen when cars are running high boost.
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
And they didn't run race gas (very high octane gasoline, prevents detonation)
Asymmetrica
piston got bended. this kills the piston. also bt 3k and 10k miles you should change oil depending on how new ur car is
shroomigator
The bar that holds the piston while the piston goes up and down has been bent by the massive force of whatever was burned in that engine
UsernameTakenObviously
In the UK? Like 10 - 15k miles
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
Increased boost and didn't use race gas, had detonation. Cylinder go boom.
ChillWinstonCharlieKnewitwasme
http://www.tv2.no/a/6129523/ its Norwegian news but this guy ran his car 300 000km without oil/filterchange
crypticorb
I have a 2006 VW Jetta, TDI Diesel, and it takes 5W-40 synthetic, owners manual specifies every 10k miles, but I typically go 7-8k.
discollama
Wait...so I've been extra careful because I usually get mine changed every 2.5k miles? I thought I was reckless!
clutchthepearls
You're wasting money, not being reckless.
discollama
Why do all my cars break then? I must have really awful luck with cars. That's depressing.
LeDonoMkIV
Poor quality fuel can cause issues. Any alcohol contaminates in low grade fuel can change the properties of the oil.
IndefinetelyTired
I've been told changing it too much can damage the engine pretty well. No idea why. Internal parts are affected by it, not external btw.
IndefinetelyTired
So like alternator, water pump, etc, those just...break over time. Besides that, you could just be running too hard on the cars.
DukePhelan
I still do the factory recommend every 3k. But I drive maybe 4500 miles a year at present so it is mainly to keep the oil fresh.
LeadByBadExample
Do you ever feel not so fresh down there? Remember to change oil frequently.
IndefinetelyTired
Depends. On my 95 Blazer, i did 4k with a synthetic blend. On my 16 Charger, i plan 5-6k.
Guitarizard
5K on my '16 Challenger
DrkBluePenguin
01 Blazer I do mine every 3kish
DrkBluePenguin
FullSynth
IndefinetelyTired
I was never brave enough to do full. She had a verybslow leak that didn't show until 4k. About a quart dropped after that far on my blend
aevansk1177
Does your charger have the hemi or 3.6
IndefinetelyTired
Homie i wish i had a Hemi. SO said no. So I'm stuck with the 3.6.
aevansk1177
Well if you ever get one make sure to only put premium gas in. With the 3.6 have your oil change done every 5k. Source I work for dodge
badmedic504
Wait! I have the 5.7 Hemi, why only premium fuel?
IndefinetelyTired
No shit? I was thinkin Plus grade at minimum. Thanks man.
gaugetx
Average oil change is around 3k miles. Some oils and newer cars can go longer. I seen some other day that said 5k mile oil.
fightinirish
There is 20k Mobil one at every store now
maxxjq
Our odyssey just did almost 10k before telling me to change. Full synthetic FTW.
marsgoose
This is actually a cultural thing in US, for instance in most of Europe 10k kilometers is considered the proper interval
marsgoose
You can find the actual interval in your cars manual or in oil spec, use the shorter of the two.
thoushaltnotpass
Mazda recommends 20K km on their recent cars. No way I'd do it every 3 months.
Norfolkanchancehere
My BMW will do 18 k between changes.
grenzdebil
So does mine. Can't understand a change every 3000 miles, that seems ridiculous.
dohcohv
Oil and filter are cheaper. My Miata is 3-4k but costs $4 for the filter and just over 3qts.
thecarace
Depends on how much u love your car. Standard conventional oil max life 3000 miles and filter, full synthetic max life 10k .
billison
Amsoil is 25k :P
thecarace
Amsoil is good stuff but extremely expensive. I doubt this guy would buy it. There are many variables to your pil choices. Cast iron, alumin
billison
Haha yeah it really is.. I only use their gear oil and then Mobil 1 for motor oil. Amsoil is so friggen hard to find where I live too..
thecarace
Zinc or none. Still 25k is a lot on a filter, your choice my friend
thecarace
Oil doesn't go bad it just gets contaminated. I recommend half of those numbers and never over fill.
PDXfishing
You can't blanket statement these things. My Merc is every 10k, my Yota is just fine at 7.5k with synthetic. Get you oil tested to be sure.
080080
found the penzoil employee
PDXfishing
Over filling depends on the motor and what younare doing with it. 1 quart extra on track days for my LS2 is a MUST
thecarace
I am pretty sure the guy asking about when to change his oil is not a racer hitting high g takeoffs and continued corners... lol
thecarace
I was only giving general advice for average drivers, special driving requires different rules.
Schtayfe
3k for conventional, 5k for synthetic blend, 7.5k for full synthetic. But it also depends on your driving habits and filter choice.
Schtayfe
Mobil has a synthetic oil that they claim lasts 20k or 1 year. But it's 60 bucks for 5 quarts.
JeffGodofBiscuits
After we got married, I gave my wife's CR-V it's first oil and filter change. The car had 30,000 miles. God Bless Honda.
Branch68
i bought an Elantra brand new and the first time i changed the was some time after the 60k mile mark, still ran great
Aracanus
It's sad that Honda don't have that kind of reliability in F1
FuckinDoneWithThisShit
she sure sounds like your average cr-v owner
cklepper
I drove my old piece of shit Ford Windstar for about 3 months without any antifreeze in it. That thing would not die.
Shabado
had a 96 aerostar. That thing was beast. Overheated to the point where it turned itself off. fired up a few hours later. would not die
schrodingersasymmetric12gauge
Some full synthetic oil (see Amsoil) is actually rated for 25,000 miles. You just need to change the filter to clean the carbon.
JonSnowNotedWindmillExpert
My Mitsubishi once went 40,000km without any maintenance or breakdowns. Then I sold it to some guy on Craigslist.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
I wonder how that worked out for him...
cantbeasadmuffin
Ok but many girls take care of our cars, we're broke af can't afford the consequences of no upkeep
ElbowDeepInMythicalCreatures
I know girls who are way worse with cars at upkeep than my redneck friends who treat theirs like it's their entirety, even when broke to hel
cantbeasadmuffin
Yea my point was you take care of your car if you're too broke to buy another one did you not get it?
ElbowDeepInMythicalCreatures
I did not.
marsgoose
I gave my wife's 4runner first spark plug, gear oil and fuel filter change at 270k. Turns out it can go faster than 60 without a misfire
marsgoose
She did bring it in for service every 6 months, they just didn't do shit.
SuperLuminalMan
Got my first scooter... 34,000Km on the clock, last service was at 180
thevortexmaster
I had my Ford Ranger for 12 years never broke down once with minimal upkeep. I think I changed the oil twice
iMaySayWhatever
I knew a guy that did that, Is your last name stanaland?
thevortexmaster
Hahaha no
iMaySayWhatever
He worked with me, probably had 100-120k miles on his Ranger on original oil. No joke. He told us and we were like GO GET IT CHANGED NOW.
thevortexmaster
Hahaha crazy!
twolflouie
My old ranger ran better without oil.. oil just made it smoke and sputter. Ran fine without. Lol
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
I once went to change a Toyota trucks oil, the dipstick was completely dry, no one had even checked in years.
LordMagnus
God Bless Toyota. i had a 1995 Camry I bought used in 2007 w 40K miles on it. Put 300K miles on it for work before it was impounded.
JeffGodofBiscuits
She would add a quart when the light came on, but that was all the love it got
HitlersClonedButthole
Bought a 87 toyota 4x4 (hilux) with 250k miles. Oil games out like cold syrup and super burnt. Ran fine until I sold it at 350k miles.
edmundo47
I once checked the stick in our Fiat Punto that my brother drives. Bone dry...
edmundo47
Of course, the light wasn't on for some italian reason.
JeffGodofBiscuits
all that oil is heavy, just slows the car down
HandoB4Javert
Not the worst maintenance. Does she do the same for you?
JeffGodofBiscuits
Sadly, I don't seem to leak much
MitchBeaucannon
You just wait a few years.
Zippla
Step 1... get a light.
garmagor
You are a good man, Jeff.
morgan0073
That looks like hydro lock. Water doesn't compress very well.
OhSpartacus
Hydrolock is exactly what I was thinking
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
Nope. Increased boost and didn't use race gas, had detonation.
mistermichigan
That's what I was thinking as well.
Backstagepimp
Sounds like jay Leno any time he talks about his steam cars.
CandyVanMan
It's probably more like a knock knock joke, if it was running big boost.
alltheusernamesaretakenbacon
Higher boost would result in a knock event especially if they were running pump gas.
dystopunk
Water is just incomprehensible
Nelan2010
Technically not, but without going to extremes then basically it is
xRoyalWolfx
Whoosh
Thelema
Typo or not, I'm gonna upvote that. And use it as a motto.
charlie2979
Na. Water as well as everything else is compressible. Just takes alot of energy for minimal compression.
xRoyalWolfx
Whoosh
charlie2979
Looks like me and about 4 other people misread that. Incomprehensible. Funny.
MarkHughes
Yea, my first thought too, In my experience more boost will blow holes in pistons and headgaskets not bend conrods.
morgan0073
At the shop a bad coolant leak will destroy a power assembly like that.
Bob570
Depends on the engine. A VW 1.8T will bend the stock rods around 300 wtq, but everything else is good for a lot more.
MarkHughes
I main experience is with Nissan engines, So the first job with the 1.8T is a set of rods then ? How far will they go after ?
Metriixx
Rods and bearings can get you to 500ish. If you do pistons too, sky is the limit on that crank and block.
Bob570
Yup, rods are always first if you plan on breaking 300 wtq. I haven't been into modding VWs in a while so my recollection is hazy, but I 1/2
Bob570
want to say everything else is good for 500+ whp with around 400 wtq.