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KingDucklingIV
Male Cops by my highschool would stop girls walking home cuz “we saw you passing drugs” and would “search” them. Poor Latino neighborhood.
thiscommonbond
These are important stories.
Mexrose75
Brother (Latino) driving home from college pulled over for graduation tassel on mirror. Obstruction of view. Detained there until unit dogs
Mexrose75
came to “inspect” car. He was tired and angry. He knew the real reason he was targeted.
LizardEnterprises
DarkBusterBaron
I got pulled over because I had a headlight out i got a warning I'm white it pisses me off that black people are treated like this.
RisingPhoenix92
Had a cop tell me I was going too fast leaving the high school parking lot. Joke is I was the only one who pulled over out of a whole line
RisingPhoenix92
Cars all going the same speed (10 mph) because I had just did drivers Ed and saw his lights on (he was parked in a corner hidden)
CtrlAltDelusional
I was in a chemist with my friends one summer on the Gold Coast, Australia - about 15yrs old. We walked out with nothing. I was the only one
CtrlAltDelusional
not bag searched. I have blonde hair, blue eyes, pale skin. One of m friends were African and my other friend and her cousin were Latino.
CtrlAltDelusional
My friend had an OPEN bb cream, the took it and she had to go to the bank to get a transaction history to prove she paid for it weeks ago.
onikame
I got held at gunpoint by a cop in a parking lot for matching an armed robber. I'm white looking.
Cr4zyC4tLady
At 16, 2 weeks after getting my license, I was pulled over, cuffed, shoved in the ground, and 6 police cars needed. For expired tabs. Btw
Cr4zyC4tLady
I’m a tiny 5’nothing white girl, but I “seemed like trouble”. After that I called it “driving while poor”. They target that shit too :(
NotADutchman
“Land of the free and home of the brave”. A lot of posts make a case for why you need to be brave to live in the US.
wlfman
I think it's just what happens when people who on average aren't too bright, given authority, and assurances that they can sort of justify..
wlfman
... Any mistakes they make with trivial repercussions.
KeithSvenson
well yeah. that's what we've done. "here's a lethal weapon and a law that protects you from consequences, go out there and be an asshole."
Eaglemk4
I'm white and I got pulled over for Being a passenger, I get being black adds to it but there are a lot of shitbag cops
imadoctornotamechanic
youre just describing all cops
awesomecat42
I’m on the autism spectrum and terrified that one day I’ll be in trouble because a cop doesn’t understand a panic attack. I can’t...
awesomecat42
...imagine how scary it must be for people of color, knowing that stuff like this and much worst happens so often.
hydrophobicOtter
As an anecdotal example of the difference in treatment: I (a white woman) was stopped by police while walking home from the bar at 2am, >>
hydrophobicOtter
>> because I was carrying my shoes. But they just wanted to make sure I was safe. Hearing all the stories like in this post make me so >>
hydrophobicOtter
>> sad and make me legitimately worried about my black friends who might get stopped walking home from the bar but not for a positive reason
Ebo352
https://www.thedailybeast.com/he-was-the-neo-nazi-who-inspired-american-history-x-his-nazi-pals-are-now-cops
godwithashotgun
SecretlyASiberianHusky
So the best thing to change it is *checks notes* elect a guy whose been in the system for decades an an ex cop. Makes total sense
ropetopus
Nope, the best thing is to be pragmatic in this election and get more involved in grassroots efforts to fix shit so we're ready when 1/2
ropetopus
Better candidates run. Without the organizing, nothing will change. But if you give up, nothing *can* change 2/2
jormundr
Gf and I were pulled over, cop had me get out, frisked me, asked a bunch of leading questions, then asked my gf why I seemed nervous
Mexrose75
Drove through a posh area at 11 pm & cops pulled us over. Checked if we were not underage. Both 23. He had a beard. Hour later let go. Sure.
hattiesburglar
Being a black driver in America must be like being a teenage driver. I got pulled over constantly as a teen. Since I went bald, not once.
ButtmoTerror
Why don't you just try really hard to not be black it's so simple
Ryebread91
PeacefullyDejected
I’ve had some cops (of all shades) be fucking pricks to me for some bs reason or another... though I’ve had far more cops be decent to me.
Grendus
I think most cops are genuinely good, but the good ones let the shitty ones get away with shit. That makes them just as guilty.
PeacefullyDejected
I fully agree good ones covering are just as guilty as the shit cops, and all shitty cops should be prosecuted for their wrong doing/s.
theDogter
Cops aggressively u-turned sped down the street and used the car to cut me off. I crossed at the xwalk early in the morning. (White punk)
KillerTofu615
After getting two friends off shit tickets for smoking in court I had several cops harass me for months. Eventually got a restraining order
BlackWingPhoenix
It’s anyone who fits the “troublemaker” profile. They won’t fix the problems. “Meet me in the middle says the unjust man” as he steps back
chinaPieCreator
Being a White Long Haired Acid Head in England in the late 60s and through the 70s brought me to their attention many, many times
00LimaRomeo
This is so apt. Is this your quote? Can I use it?
Zyrixion
The fuller quote is, "meet me in the middle", says the unjust man. The just man takes a step forward, the unjust man takes a step back. 1/
Zyrixion
2/ "meet me in the middle", says the unjust man, again. It's not really attributed to anyone afaik.
Monka42
I was wearing a lifeguard uniform on my way to work and got stopped for fitting the description of someone who committed an armed robbery...
Monka42
In a fucking lifeguard uniform? Red shirts white shirt with a red Cross? Really? Bright red hat? Come the fuck on.
spacepandas
My husband who always goes the speed limit was pulled over because his license plate looked "loose" and got a ticket for unsafe driving.
spacepandas
One of many horrible stories he has shared with me, there's some he can't even talk about. People suck so much. He's amazing though
ABirdWalkedOnMyPillow
My bf (his 5 year old child w/ autism in the car) was pulled over, 9 cops, 20 hours in police car>van>station>jail, for a suspended license.
Grenateh
Driving under suspension is a jailable offense, though. I've spent 5+ days in jail for it.
Camelspotting
The reasons for suspending a license are usually pretty serious.
SteveTheEgg
Mine got suspended for no insurance.
BobbieNell
Its usually a misdemeanor. And licenses can be suspended for a variety of minor reasons.
ABirdWalkedOnMyPillow
Well it was illegal here to run his plates without suspicion, and it was suspended bc he couldn’t afford to pay back some tickets.
TargunYssboern
Like overdue traffic tickets?
moop2000
Mind was suspended without me realizing it cause I missed a court date over a speeding ticket. It can happen by accident easily.
XOccamsChainsawX
The times in my life where I have come the closest to getting killed was by the police...for absolutely no reason.
SomeLostMexican
Same. Pulled over an immediate guns drawn told step out an lay down. I was 19 in my first decent car driving in a rich white neighborhood.
SomeLostMexican
Surprise. I fit a description. Friend I was visiting saw this an convinced cops i was with him all day.
UsersubPoetLaureate
Yup. 30 years old. A cop is the only person who has ever struck me - put me in the hospital. They’re the only people I’m scared of.
UsersubPoetLaureate
Ended up going through law school and now work as a criminal defender to ‘fight’ back.
Corrodias
fuck yeah
combatforest
I am an infantry combat veteran and I feel like I was closer to being killed when cops drew guns on me and fiends when we were 17
FatForYou
My dad is in his 60s, white, served in the air force, trying to fix an atm at a bank after hours he triggered a silent alarm. Cops, guns.
FatForYou
No shots fired. Still more dangerous than his 6 years in the air force. If he was black? Idk man.
godsSlayer
One time i had to stop entering My home just because, the cop asked who was i and where he had seen me , the exact thing happened to My dad
godsSlayer
I didnt answer anything just said i live here to him repeating the same questions until he left
wolfcunt
Cop once illegally decided not to charge me with mj intent to sell at 16 bc of my appearance. Evidence was "tossed". :/
Camelspotting
Well that was nice of him.
49erdoucheman
Had a buddy with a similar story, except judge saw weighed amount and charged anyway.
pharmie01
That’s one of my biggest issues. Police officers can choose whether or not to enforce the rules. Like a bad relationship,
pharmie01
are they in a good mood or bad mood today? Will they let me go or shoot me?
2674E6J
Agreed. Officer discretion should be revoked and all persons arrested and tried. First time? 2 mph over? No record? Not anymore. No mercy.
ropetopus
Cops don't make charging decisions, though…
tootsie87
Good one
Rodrodington1
I live in tv land from pleasantville too!
Rhianmnop
No. I was arrested for possession of pills once, unknown at the time but they were loose tylenol, once discovered they changed the charge
Rhianmnop
To possession of marijuana and paraphernalia despite my ex stating I was asleep and it was his.
SadToSay
I think he means arrest. But you get the idea. Also, yeah right...
Rodrodington1
Exactly, the other side of the coin. Cops are more likely to sleep with hookers than arrest them.
SmutGrrrl
Iiiiiii mean..... hooking shouldn’t be illegal anyway, but I think I see your point
junkgoof
It's only sort of illegal here in Canada but they still get raped by police.
junkgoof
It's not "sleeping with" it's rape. Same here in Canada. They should protect protestors and hookers and everyone not abuse them.
Rodrodington1
Shit, it's the very definition of rape, but the prosecutor world be like... "Boys will be boys."
junkgoof
And some people are not people so we can violate their rights with impunity. A supreme court justice said that according to "I am MLK."
junkgoof
Self-contradictory but very much what a third of Americans think.
springelmogizmo
magila
Diversity cf THOT
CrazyMrowLady
"I don't see colour". Well then you certainly don't see how people of colour are treated then.
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
If anyone doesn't see color, they only see how people are treated. Makes sense?
orangemarmaladesky
CrazyMrowLady
This is literally the only acceptable response lol
CAAFlo
Yeah. I've come to learn that I don't see color means 'i ignore POC' not 'im all about equality'
DevonGronka
There's a great article floating around called "if you don't see color, then you don't see me"
chunkblaster
Thats the same argument white people use to bitch about black lives matter you do realize that right?
DevonGronka
...wut? The whole point of the article is that the "colorblind" mantra just allows privileged people to ignore race and thus discrimination.
chunkblaster
Ok and some racists use pepe the frog, are we gona give that to them? I think its kinda fucked to just say we're not allowed to say that now
Enoan
I discovered that I judge people much more by accent then skin color. I try to treat all people well but bias always exists.
Enoan
I, a white man in the suburbs, found I am untrusting of the urban accent, but have no issue with my African Immigrant co-workers
CrazyMrowLady
Why accent? And what accents do you deem lesser/superior? Not trying to pick a fight, just genuinely curious.
Enoan
You caught me as I was elaborating, but I love in the suburbs and am wary of people with the city accent. I have caught myself “manspaining”
Enoan
To people with various foreign accents, as I seem to associate it with a lack of education, especially on more local matters.
CrazyMrowLady
I am not from the US, but I imagine that a "city" accent varies in all 50 states. Which city do you find more wary? And you are not 1/2
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
My non-american friend still doesn't get how treating everyone equally regardless of their race is racism.
malbec
Treating everyone “equally” negates the struggles that individuals of any specific demographic have had to live with as their premise
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
No it doesn't. My friend is totally against racism and supports victims of racial crimes, which are by the way only performed by people --
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
--who do see colour.
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
*committed, not performed.
GrazedDisgrace
So we should presume what struggles they faced based on race?
LurkerOfDarkness
And that's how you really build up a racist mindset from the bottom and still make yourself look good.
GrazedDisgrace
I know, right? It's mind boggling. It suggests people to treat all members of a race a specific way for a specific issue they share. Now 1/2
IDownvoteUnsaucedPosts
"I don't see color" is just an excuse in my experience.
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
Excuse for what?
clucja1
Racism. They say it as a means to not be held accountable. If you claim to not see color but vote for openly racist people, you're racist.
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
So the problem is voting for racists and not the phrase itself?
TheFatherMind
There is this really great meme that explains this with a baseball field, a fence, and different sized people.
2674E6J
True. NONE of them bought a ticket.
TheFatherMind
LOL
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
Exactly: to achieve equal opportunities, every person should receive help based on their needs, not on their demographics or anything.
TheFatherMind
And if you cannot see color how could you possibly know their needs... As that is a factor.
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
By their income, family size, education level, health state, history of injustices they suffered and so on
SocialHumbuggery
This was a running gag on the Colbert Report, nice to see it in reality :|
AlmostScientist
"I don't see color" then you should be very aware about how police are treating PEOPLE in general.
blastedsteak
This. It doesn’t matter what color they are. If police are mistreating Americans there is a problem that requires addressing.
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
I don't know the context of the picture but that's what normal "colorblind" people mean by that phrase.
SephReed
Both? Like maybe we can both recognize racial disadvantage and acknowledge that mental diversity is also important and real.
Hammertulski
I’d like to know what “mental diversity” is supposed to mean in this context.
SephReed
You ever met a wierd artist type? Or an aspy super genius? That type of human diversity.
GSCultist
Psst, when you say mental diversity in the context of a race discussion it sounds like you will start talking Victorian Era race "science".
SephReed
No. I just feel like there's a lot of focus on skin, but conformity is also very scary.
CAAFlo
But mental and racial diversity are inherently linked. Having different racial experiences leads to a different mental experience
PubstarHero
You're not getting it if you think that this is what the statement was about. Its about how hive-mind people can get on the left >
PubstarHero
> And having a different opinion from the group makes you persona non grata.
PubstarHero
Ironically this is what happened with my mom when she started going to church. She went from Dem to Repub really fast due to the hivemind
PubstarHero
The irony that through the 80s and 90s we were taught to be colorblind and judge the person, not the race. Now identity is the key factor >
PubstarHero
> And its all about race again. That is all that matters. 200+ years of oppression aren't going to vanish overnight, but I do find it >
PubstarHero
> rather interesting that the polarization in the US started happening around the same time as Intersectionality took off.
InoffensivePablum
Polarization took off with the Southern Strategy and culminated in the conservative resurgence of the 70s. Reagan was the start of the fall.
NoNameFred
So you're saying that this "polarization" started happening as it became illegal and socially unacceptable to treat Black people as subhuman
NoNameFred
Almost as though the cause of this "polarization" is really just people seeing awful behaviour, and finally saying "wait, that's wrong"
boshbashbish
Wouldn’t this be a good thing still? If people saw everyone as the same colour, or just the thought of someones skin colour doesnt even /1
clucja1
Sure? But here is the thing, it's ok to see color. Its one thing that makes us different. Which is ok. The key is to not ignore oppression
boshbashbish
enter into their mind, racism would decline over time surely? /2
ZashchishchayushchiysyaOsushchestvitelLzhesvidetelstva
Right? If all US policemen wouldn't see colour, this post wouldn't even exist.
TheFatherMind
Yes, but if you've watched her enough. You know that she actually does see color. And she comments on it.
LurkerOfDarkness
It is too engrained in US society. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ayep0SWcN7c watch and be horrified at what is considered normal in the US.
Raxiel
If everyone did, sure, but they don't. It's not helpful to say "I don't discriminate, I just turn a blind eye to those that do".
boshbashbish
Generations that genuinely have no racist inclinations move past this when they keep getting reminded and perhaps blamed for racism that /2
boshbashbish
Ok but maybe they aren’t discriminating, and genuinely don’t see any problem/difference in their mind with PoC. How do the younger /1
boshbashbish
Occured well before their time. You are vilified for even considering alternate reasons or solutions. /3
UpvoteFairyCakes
Actions speak louder than words. In this specific instance it was a woman who denies systemic racism’s existence saying she doesn’t see 1/2
Fravash
I've never once had a positive interaction with a cop, even when I was the one that needed help. ACAB.
Takethejump
Me either. I guess I've seen them directing traffic a few times, but that's not an interaction.
imadoctornotamechanic
dealing with cops when you need help us the worst, getting told to go fuck yourself when you have been grossly wronged, ACAB no exceptions
sykotic1189
I've had it range from violations of my rights to escorting me home after an accident. Not all cops are bad, shouldn't write them all off
Crippling
where are those good cops now?
supertrouperlightsaregonnafindme
Any cop that sits by in a bastardized system while personally "not doing anything bad" is a bad cop.
Spectre32115
Today I had to call a sheriff to the scene of an accident I caused at a boat ramp, zero issues at all. That said I've also been pulled 1/x
Spectre32115
Over for being parked in front of a known meth trafficking trailer house. I don't think all cops are bad. They're people, no different in 2/
Spectre32115
Experience than me or anyone else. It's up to you, on a personal level IMO, to make the outcome of the interaction positive, regardless 3/x
Spectre32115
Of what they may approach the situation with. Every contact they have is a fresh one, so I'm my eyes they get treated no different than 4/x
transientmind
Even handing in money I found was a pain in the ass. It's like they wished I'd just keep it instead of making them do paperwork.
KeithSvenson
oh the AUDACITY. just imagine for a second... having to do WORK while at work.
JayEnfield
As a Canadian, it wasn't until very recently that I properly understood why all my American friends hated police so much. For many years >
JayEnfield
I wrote it off as young-adult "fuck the system" edgyness. But it very much isn't that... USA police interactions are VERY different from >
JayEnfield
my own experiences north of the border. From the police I know, from the attitudes and standards they hold up here. I had no idea. >
JayEnfield
I really hope you guys get the much-needed reform to the police and criminal justice system that you deserve.
mynameisporkchop
ghoulee
everydayvirgo
SpanishInquisitioner
That
zolitzar
#ALM. No to any other race specific matters
Antelino
Tell me when white lives in specific did not matter for the sole fact they were white. I’ll wait. Till then you’re a dog whistling racist.
zolitzar
That’s racist in itself. I’m not white or black so I’m not being biased
TheMasterDB8er
Its not about biased, its about being an ignorant, blind piece of shit. Which you are proudly displaying to this public forum.
zolitzar
And how am I a piece of shit when I’m being anti racist in general? Black ppl aren’t exactly innocent in racist acts so we gunna ignore it?
zolitzar
Just because some criminal died everyone’s lost their shit and thrown intelligence out the window. While I’m for all lives. I don’t get
zolitzar
I’m not ignorant at all it’s you ppl that are
BaelKor
And yet here you are whistling that racist noise.
zolitzar
Cute that ur using the other guys wording
zolitzar
All the downvoters are racist
TheMasterDB8er
You’re an absolute dipshit. I hope you get arrested and given the same beatings by cops that black people have to deal with regularly.
zolitzar
You’re part of the problem
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
#BLM2
zolitzar
ALM is all lives not just race specific. BLM is too close to/is racist
BaelKor
Except that all lives don't matter. Because society has deemed that black lives don't matter.
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
Doesn't look like the system is set up to fuck up all lives, just those poor or of a darker complexion, often both... always both
aTallIrishman
Objectively false but ok
backrideup9
You're not helping the "Irish are racist" stereotype.
aTallIrishman
You're not helping the "facts matter" view of reality
mynameisporkchop
I can see how you would say “objectively”, perhaps because you don’t believe there are numbers or stats attached to these statements. -
mynameisporkchop
- but there have been studies and research papers written. It’s basically the longest marketing campaign ever done. The war on drugs alone -
WaveMotionGum
Re-watching media from it's height in the 80s and 90s feels insane...It depicts such an unrecognizable race driven crime world.
mynameisporkchop
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/crime/the-war-on-drugs
beclamide
Interesting. Which part is objectively false?
FEMAcampsarereal
The part where it hurt his feelings.
aTallIrishman
"After Civil rights we whites portrayed blacks as evil" etc. There is literally no better or more free place for blacks than America.
stevencloser
Anywhere in Europe.
Mimsey
Literally any nordic country?
Jetda
Canada?
mynameisporkchop
This is a nice thought and it’s probably better than the US, but I’ve read some racist ass shit happen up there, too
MiniMegaOfParagonCity
That is one of the most absolutely stupid comments I have ever seen on the internet. Congratulations, your IQ is on par with that of a slug.
aTallIrishman
If you truly believe that, I feel sorry for you. It must be difficult to be so blinded by irrational thought.
TheGratch8390
England, Canada
antigiraffe
Literally Africa
aTallIrishman
Median US black income: $58,985.00. South Africa as one example? $7,000. Which would you rather have?