Sep 24, 2016 1:06 PM
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LowlevelRebel
It just doesn't feel right without a triggered gif.
dialysisinflictor
Speed limit laws are unjust.
DungeonMaster69
There is this unjust law in Finland, and it makes it illegal for me to kill people that annoy me. But i guess i'm obligated to disobey it
CreamAndShit
I reckon this argument can be exploited any number of ways.
Jorsturi
That would entirely depend on one's interpretation of justice, wouldn't it. This is an anti-abortion argument I hear all the time.
ANewBearANewWay
"The only just transfer of property is voluntary"
Spaid47Trey57
I just can't live in this country anymore.
nohman64
The problem is that "unjust" is a political concept on its own, and is open to interpretation.
superafleck
this is why I support what snowden did. including that he refuse to come back for trial. since that trial will 99% use an unjust law
maboes
If Mr. Jefferson would like to help me with legal fees I'll gladly take his advice.
Bennings
I THINK you MAY need TO pick A FONT size AND stick TO it.
thelyzardiam
Glad to know I wasn't the only one irked. I could feel my brains confusion.
I didn't make this. But SeE YoUr PoInT.
ExpectedDickbuttGotDickbutt
ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᵈᵒ you mean?
StinyZ
Preach
themilkmancometh
Honest question to any Americans but do you think your founding fathers would be happy with what the US has become today ?
firestorme
Best guess they've been shooting by now!
bctycho
Yes.
IvanTheTesticleVI
They certainly wouldn't like income tax
hal0405
No
flarflarf
I don't actually think it matters what some long-dead people would have wanted. The question is are WE happy with it?
Are you happy with it ?
eh. it has it's ups & downs. Not as nice as some, better than most.
Branmaster4
Our most sacred liberties (for which they fought and died) have been completely subverted by a monolithic, militarist, collectivist-state...
...once sound economics have given way to central banking and massive deficits. A once well-informed, rational populace has given way to...
...been replaced by those (employer and employee alike) who wish to impose unfair wages or want something for nothing...
The system they designed was meant to insulate the people from a tyrannical gov't like they saw in England. They didn't count on the fact...
...uninformed, heavily propagandized, apathetic degenerates. Where we once had the most disciplined, innovative, and fair workforce has...
..that the people are often tyrannical. Whether through ignorance or apathy, they have become willing participants in their own displacement
The founding fathers are rolling in their graves, and their children have awoke as slaves on the continent their fathers conquered.
TojS
Those in control are still extremely powerful and insanely wealthy. So yes, they would be very proud.
Monochromatism
No, they wanted the exact opposite of that. So they'd be displeased.
the American Revolution was a very complex thing with many motivations, many of them profit-driven.
mmmmm I don't really know so much about that
but from an outside perspective i feel the principles the US was founded on don't exist today. Would you agree ?
LETHARGICpancake
To an extent, but the founders envisioned it to change with the times. In many ways we've gotten better. Others worse.
Yeah, makes sense i guess.
You're entirely correct, they exist in name or on paper, but in reality they have been completely undermined, basically since WW1.
TheOneTrueNerd
AHAHAHAHAHAHA! What do YOU think?
My opinion doesn't count as a Brit, i'd have been happier if you stayed with the family hahaha
I'm allowed to pursue happiness if I give 30% of my income to a government that makes decisions solely based on how much lobbyists donate.
Dictated democracy then.
Probably more like an elected oligarchy.
GatDangHippies
We ended slavery and our greatest ally is England. So probably not. For many, many other reasons too, I'm sure.
Redbrickadam
They would probably be mad that more than white male landowners can vote.
You must not know much about the founding fathers of you think they were pro-slavery.
The loopholes that evaporated the 4th amendment would probably piss them off, and the war machine...
Phixik
Actually they didn't agree with slavery...
Yes, I'm sure Thomas Jefferson felt terrible about having all those slaves...
He wrote a section to dismiss it I believe but even they knew it was easier said than done...
Because one man is representative of all of the founding fathers... Let alone Thomas Jefferson's extensive discourses on slavery.
He actually did. Maybe read a book before you spout ignorant trash.
They'd be unhappy with us because we have a two party system and we fucked the economy, not because of our labor and allies.
jpmon3y3
They invented our 2 party system. Jefferson's Democratic Republicans vs Hamilton's Federalists.
The only one who didn't like the two party system was the one who wasn't a career politician funny enough.
Yeah GW wasn't a career politician? Served 15 years in Va house of burgesses, delegate at 1st and 2nd continental congress
LowlevelRebel
It just doesn't feel right without a triggered gif.
dialysisinflictor
Speed limit laws are unjust.
DungeonMaster69
There is this unjust law in Finland, and it makes it illegal for me to kill people that annoy me. But i guess i'm obligated to disobey it
CreamAndShit
I reckon this argument can be exploited any number of ways.
Jorsturi
That would entirely depend on one's interpretation of justice, wouldn't it. This is an anti-abortion argument I hear all the time.
ANewBearANewWay
"The only just transfer of property is voluntary"
Spaid47Trey57
I just can't live in this country anymore.
nohman64
The problem is that "unjust" is a political concept on its own, and is open to interpretation.
superafleck
this is why I support what snowden did. including that he refuse to come back for trial. since that trial will 99% use an unjust law
maboes
If Mr. Jefferson would like to help me with legal fees I'll gladly take his advice.
Bennings
I THINK you MAY need TO pick A FONT size AND stick TO it.
thelyzardiam
Glad to know I wasn't the only one irked. I could feel my brains confusion.
SciFiWordSlinger
I didn't make this. But SeE YoUr PoInT.
ExpectedDickbuttGotDickbutt
ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᵈᵒ you mean?
StinyZ
Preach
themilkmancometh
Honest question to any Americans but do you think your founding fathers would be happy with what the US has become today ?
firestorme
Best guess they've been shooting by now!
bctycho
Yes.
IvanTheTesticleVI
They certainly wouldn't like income tax
hal0405
No
flarflarf
I don't actually think it matters what some long-dead people would have wanted. The question is are WE happy with it?
themilkmancometh
Are you happy with it ?
flarflarf
eh. it has it's ups & downs. Not as nice as some, better than most.
Branmaster4
Our most sacred liberties (for which they fought and died) have been completely subverted by a monolithic, militarist, collectivist-state...
Branmaster4
...once sound economics have given way to central banking and massive deficits. A once well-informed, rational populace has given way to...
Branmaster4
...been replaced by those (employer and employee alike) who wish to impose unfair wages or want something for nothing...
Branmaster4
The system they designed was meant to insulate the people from a tyrannical gov't like they saw in England. They didn't count on the fact...
Branmaster4
...uninformed, heavily propagandized, apathetic degenerates. Where we once had the most disciplined, innovative, and fair workforce has...
Branmaster4
..that the people are often tyrannical. Whether through ignorance or apathy, they have become willing participants in their own displacement
Branmaster4
The founding fathers are rolling in their graves, and their children have awoke as slaves on the continent their fathers conquered.
TojS
Those in control are still extremely powerful and insanely wealthy. So yes, they would be very proud.
Monochromatism
No, they wanted the exact opposite of that. So they'd be displeased.
flarflarf
the American Revolution was a very complex thing with many motivations, many of them profit-driven.
flarflarf
mmmmm I don't really know so much about that
themilkmancometh
but from an outside perspective i feel the principles the US was founded on don't exist today. Would you agree ?
LETHARGICpancake
To an extent, but the founders envisioned it to change with the times. In many ways we've gotten better. Others worse.
themilkmancometh
Yeah, makes sense i guess.
Branmaster4
You're entirely correct, they exist in name or on paper, but in reality they have been completely undermined, basically since WW1.
TheOneTrueNerd
AHAHAHAHAHAHA! What do YOU think?
themilkmancometh
My opinion doesn't count as a Brit, i'd have been happier if you stayed with the family hahaha
TheOneTrueNerd
I'm allowed to pursue happiness if I give 30% of my income to a government that makes decisions solely based on how much lobbyists donate.
themilkmancometh
Dictated democracy then.
TheOneTrueNerd
Probably more like an elected oligarchy.
GatDangHippies
We ended slavery and our greatest ally is England. So probably not. For many, many other reasons too, I'm sure.
Redbrickadam
They would probably be mad that more than white male landowners can vote.
IvanTheTesticleVI
You must not know much about the founding fathers of you think they were pro-slavery.
LETHARGICpancake
The loopholes that evaporated the 4th amendment would probably piss them off, and the war machine...
Phixik
Actually they didn't agree with slavery...
GatDangHippies
Yes, I'm sure Thomas Jefferson felt terrible about having all those slaves...
Phixik
He wrote a section to dismiss it I believe but even they knew it was easier said than done...
Branmaster4
Because one man is representative of all of the founding fathers... Let alone Thomas Jefferson's extensive discourses on slavery.
IvanTheTesticleVI
He actually did. Maybe read a book before you spout ignorant trash.
Monochromatism
They'd be unhappy with us because we have a two party system and we fucked the economy, not because of our labor and allies.
jpmon3y3
They invented our 2 party system. Jefferson's Democratic Republicans vs Hamilton's Federalists.
Redbrickadam
The only one who didn't like the two party system was the one who wasn't a career politician funny enough.
jpmon3y3
Yeah GW wasn't a career politician? Served 15 years in Va house of burgesses, delegate at 1st and 2nd continental congress