How Not To Roleplay (Tabletop gaming you heathens)

Sep 10, 2015 6:38 PM

Kavrae

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Ok people, I'm gonna learn you something today. Namely how to not suck at roleplaying and stop making your GM want to use his books as a bonfire for your all too timely end. Which is exactly what he wants to do every time he hears you say the words "mysterious backstory" or "amnesia".

First up is this obnoxious shit. "I'm a lawful good, I would NEVER ..." Just shut up now. Stop using these generic, oversimplified labels as a justification for your pathetic attempt at making a personality. They're no better than the astrological signs your platinum blonde vegan cousin uses to determine her next ex boyfriend.

You're a paladin and your class requires it? Fine. Pick one. That's step ONE. Now stop being lazy and actually make a personality that's more interesting than a piece of ketchup stained cardboard. You hate lying? GREAT! Did your parents lie to you about Santa Clause? I don't care! So long as you come up with something.

This will make your GM actually give two fucks about your character. He might think twice about killing them off. Then again, maybe not. Either way you might actually remember "Fred the Barbarian" as more than just a bundle of numbers this time.

Next we have the opposite side of this rust-stained coin. Mr "Tragic Backstory that takes up 30 pages". Notice how everyone is face down in their pizza with cartoon sleep bubbles? Of course not. You're too busy going over the fourth horrible thing to happen to your Ratfolk Bard during his first year of life.

The trick here is balance people. If I can sum up your character in fewer words than it takes to describe my favorite turkey sandwich, get your ass back to writing. If you've written the start of a short novel, break out the erasor, because no one cares.

On that note, if you wrote your sob story in ink or, gods forbid, printed it out? May Orcus have mercy on your soul.

Now that we've got all the boring stuff out of the way, lets get down to the fun part. Making shit happen! No, seriously. Do something. Anything! ARGH!!

I don't care how elaborate and perfectly crafted your Monk / Wizard / Rogue / Lord Gryffinder's personality is if you don't do a damn thing with it. If you're a kleptomaniac, start stealing shit! Hard-assed veteran from the 3rd regiment of the Dwarven infantry? Well then what the hell are you doing helping that elf rob his neighbor? Go start an epic quest for the king!

Short version - if you're going to write something about this persona, then live up to it. Make things happen that follows your half-assed background. Stop doing shit that they would never do just to follow along. You're playing the character, not duplicating your own pathetic life.

"I hit the dragon with my sword. It does 15 damage with 19 accuracy." Huh? Oh, I'm sorry was that it? That was fucking pathetic! We're here to roleplay an epic adventure, not throw numbers at each other until we get a tax return.

If you want that shiny loot, you've gotta work for it. Make me believe that you're actually fighting for your life with everything those scrawny gnomish arms have. Put some personality and creativity behind your fights. Or at the very least, giving me some cliche line about swinging your blood-stained sword with straining muscles and a loud grunt. Just don't be surprised if the next barmaid you encounter is carrying a concealed sword and a sleeping potion.

Did the neanderthal playing the Half Orc Fighter across the room just make fun of your fake accent? Well I applaud your efforts at actually giving a damn about the game! Now find the nearest solid object and throw it at his head. You don't need that shit. You're too busy fighting a god-damned dragon and collecting treasure.

Look up. You see the picture with the lines and the labels? Forget it. It doesn't mean a bloody thing to you. Tier lists and progression charts are for min-maxers that want to kill gods with their little toe; which you clearly aren't ready for if you can't so much as barter a beer off a bartender.

Wizards are tier 1 OP "kiss my ass or die" powerful? Who cares. A good player running a Dwarven Bard with one leg and no gear will run circles around your guide-created "god character".

Pick a class and race that you like. They don't have perfect synergy? Fuck it. Do it anyway. Give them an interesting personality. Something YOU want to play. Something that makes a good story. Now play it. Do things that aren't optimal. Make shit up and follow your "what if" crazy ideas. In short, stop being boring because a guide said so!

Part 1 (Players) - http://imgur.com/gallery/WbelP
Part 2 (GMs) - http://imgur.com/gallery/dEDJ8
Part 3 (Getting Started) - http://imgur.com/gallery/ROoqG
Part 4 (Systems) - http://imgur.com/gallery/qeqdl

Using amnesia or unknown parentage is a nono in any groups i play, cause the DM will fuck with your character, ours prefer an indepth story

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Amnesia can be done right but you have to expect shit to show up. Friends that you don't remember parents are both liches etc

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Eh. Everybody has their own way to play. Find what works for you and your group. Also there's nothing wrong with power gaming responsibly.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Next up, how not to DM: be helpful and not a judgmental fuck.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Coming up tomorrow!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Currently playing a 5e skeleton sorcerer that was brought back to life by accident. "I've got a bone to pick with you".

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

God the disguise checks but the hide checks. "you are exploring a dungeon there is a pile of bones that stands up and does a song and dance

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Lawful =/= "awful". If some savage law demanded a paladin to eat human flesh would he oblige? No! An alignment doesn't make you a bellend!

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

When people play paladins as "lawful stupid", I point out to them that John McLane from Diehard is 100% LG and an ideal paladin.>

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

>If you try to play your alignment, you're just gonna be a bore. Play your character, alignment is a flux (WORST case, paladins can atone).

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Had a chaotic neutral gnome geomancer that had leaves, a horn, and a camel hump on his body.....

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

I have a Gnome Barbarian that does three things; makes his friends' enemies bleed, makes everyone laugh, and feeds himself and his pony oats

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

also the occasional irresistible urge to have sex with animals... which led him to try to fuck a dragon once. He didn't make it.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

This is why you always ask first. And a healthy buff to Cha doesn't hurt either.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

It was a good time. and it was mid fight.... bad timing

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

On the other side of this, don't make a mechanically awful character. You can't have an adventure if you can't pass the first climb check.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This is true. While being a master of combat isn't necessary, you should at least bring one useful thing to the party that no one else has.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I agree with most of this. The creative fighting bit can seriously bog down a game though. Just a touch of flourish! Not an essay!

11 years ago | Likes 122 Dislikes 0

I agree with you but I think op meant say what your character does not just ''I rolled a 19''

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Unless you're playing Scion. If you're playing Scion, the creative fighting is practically mandatory.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

True, but also in Scion the more creative you are the better you do or some such. Its forum RP the tabletop game from how its been described

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

We would put it on the DM to determine how hits landed, generally, being the storyteller.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Agreed. Its tabletop, not an MMO.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

I know I could never play a tabletop because when I play video game RPGs, I try to accomplish everything possible, regardless of if it (1)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

would make sense for my character to do it. Am I playing an evil asshole who kills for fun? Well I better be nice to my party members, I (2)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

wouldn't want to upset them and miss out on any possible rewards. (3)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer. And if they are watching your back, better make sure they can.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can't never really get IMMERSED in a video game like I can with live people. I get bogged down in stats and points. Live is different

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm reminded of the tale of Sir Bearington.

11 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 1

Always upvote Sir Bearington.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ah, yes - Sir Bearington:

11 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

ROARS IN AGREEMENT

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

One of my favorite stories; second only to Jason Swift.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Don't forget about the Dread Gazebo!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It is long but seems similar in spirit to Jason Swift but not quite as epic. http://m.imgur.com/bAMtRin

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who's Jason Swift?

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I don't know much about DnD but the phrase "I charge the cliff" had me laughing.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Then I shall consider this a success!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He is the manliest of warriors to ever grace the top of the table.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Started a throwaway D&D game on a trip away,2 years later & it's still going. My psychotic gnome barbarian is even comin back from the dead!

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Gnome barbarians are the best!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2. Which effectively caused him to ascend to godhood and he now rules his own chaos realm. He's being brought back to save the mortal realm.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He was made as a joke but turned out really good, then died by being thrown by his best friend into pure chaos made real

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I made my barbarian about 7 years when i was 12. I was convinced by my older brother, turns out he was just messing with me.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is an impressively long game. Congrats.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

1/2 I am a part of a D&D that has multiple DMs who each control their own region. Each week is 1 year in game time and this has been going

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

2/2 for a couple years. Every NPC you encounter is actually an NPC or relative of a PC. It is also structured to allow you to miss "years"

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

One of the best moments was when we accidentally started a civil war & the DM just broke down laughing saying 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

"you guys have no idea just how far off script you are"

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

No good plan survives first contact with the players. Heheh

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I had a level 1 character charge a portal and end up in the far realm because a player dared him. It was only suppose to be open for 5 secs.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't make your quirks hold up the rest of the game though. If you're a klepto, don't halt the whole game for too long stealing EVERYTHING.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's RP not Skyrim

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"I'm gonna learn you something" *stopped reading*

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That's known as a "hook". It's intentional and gets far more people to notice than something more formal or "correct".

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

TL;DR games are awesome, play them and play them like the awesomest awesome that you can be.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

One thing to add, keep the story going. No single decision should talk more than half and hour. And no GM should allow it to stall like that

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Situational. If the party stops to talk for a half an hour in character then let them, as long as it is in character.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm talking about them unable to make a decision OOC

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh man let me tell you about that turkey sandwich. So I get it at Terri's in Kingston. The owner is a horse's ass and the deli staff (1/?)

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

runs from friendly to surly, but oh god its the tops. The turkey itself is regular Boarshead. Never dry and NEVER slimy like you get (2/?)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

with some of those cheaper brands. And you cut it really thin like a good New York Deli knows how to do. Ever since I moved to Boston (3/?)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I haven't found a place that knows how to slice turkey. The seem to think thickness should be measured in millimeters for some shit (4/?)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

reason. Like HELLO, micrometers. any way I never get lettuce. For some reason I hate lettuce. I love tomatoes though. When they're (5/?)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

real cold like they've been in a walk-in and the flesh is *just* right and the pulp is that perfect tomato jelly. The buns come from (6/?)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I get not min-maxing, but nobody is going to run circles around a wizard.

11 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

I would disagree about min-maxing. combat is the only thing relegated to mechanics, the system itself is telling you to be combat effecient

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Cleric is a contender. Artificer I might argue is better. It's a bit more bland and harder to pull off but you can make ANYTHING.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wizards can do a lot of damage but it's limited. A Cleric with LOT'S of turn attempts and meta-magic feats (Persistent Spell) rule the day.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I just finished playing a campaign as a super fun spear Cleric build :) Buffs for days

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A monk with higher initiative does.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Divination specialist wizard.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Contingency time stop shenanigans. Let me know how that goes for you.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Contingency time stop is useless. You can cast a spell as an interrupt to get a full action then 24-hour timestop and leave.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There you go. Haven't played a mage in years, I forget the cheese sometimes.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wizards are only great if they've given unlimited downtime, unlimited resources, and full foreknowledge. DM's can easily 'fix' that problem

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

I'd just implement a rest break requirement of like, 8 hours for a short rest, and 24 for a long rest. Make it a big decision to spellcast

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I made hit points combat-only, and the goal was to drop at least one character in every battle. Full HP after a minute, but not spells ...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yep someone was saying wizards are superior to rouges. yeah IF they happened to memorize all the spells that day and have time to cast them

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

People who say this shit have never played with me as Wizard, and I suspect haven't seen a competent one. It's easy to be decently-prepped

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I'd just implement a rest break requirement of like, 8 hours for a short rest, and 24 for a long rest. Make it a big decision to spellcast

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how so? the idea of exploring is you wont know whats in there. if you are taking multiple damage each round you need to make concentn-checks

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Exploring is almost never fully blind, and if it is, you're doing it wrong. Gather basic info about where you're going in town. (cont)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is what the contingency spell is for. Wizards are supposed to be prepared for everything if they're doing it right.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

you can only have one contingency spell at a time and you can only get it at lvl11. pit trap or arrow trap?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How are you triggering a trap as a wizard, unless you're wandering off on your own which you shouldn't do the other party members deal w/it

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Heh my friend had someone like that in one of her games. She stopped actively searching for traps. He stopped boasting pretty quickly.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Easy. Flood spell list with Summon Monster 1/Communal Mount and sent the animals down the maybe-trapped hallway.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This guy wasn't the smartest in the book and basically was trying to play Gromph without saying that's who he was. He quit, surpisingly. /s

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

at level 20 summon monster lasts for 2 mins, good luck keeping that up for a whole dungeon. also horses cant open doors.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

To be fair, min-maxing *is* a playstyle of 3.5, and it can be very rewarding, as long as that's what everyone at the table is playing.

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Agreed. Only dude in our group that was willing to DM was a notorious min-maxer, so he tended to throw absurd things our way expecting us to

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Breeze through.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh I definitely agree. It has to be something that is agreed upon, and generally only works when the players have a bit of experience.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I did a campaign like this. The infamous Age of Worms pre-written adventure that kills something like 90% of parties that attempt it.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think writing a long backstory should be fine, make a 50 page story. But don't hoist it on the others, summarize and play as that person.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I wanted to play DnD, but it seems like too much work just to be able to enjoy.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Just need the right people that will help you understand the game and make it fun

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My favorite character I ever played was ex-pro basketball player gnome.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

This guy I used to play with played a retired amateur baseball player with a god complex. It was the greatest thing ever.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You know.... I don't generally think about sports in my games. I should add that in at some point.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-01-25.jpg

11 years ago | Likes 101 Dislikes 0

I love these, I've got a player like this, he keeps making useless characters and they keep dying

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I have one too and I do my best not to kill him but... "The house is burning, but the front door is open" "Okay, we run outside" says the 1/

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

2/ Fighter and sprints "I go upstairs" says Always Dying Guy. "What?" I ask. "I run upstairs and start climbing onto the roof, I want a 2/

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

2/ better vantage point to shoot them" and he stays there until the house burns down. Or "I go into the forest" he says "Into the dark 3/

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

3/, werewolf infested forest, without any light, without any of your friends, to hunt food, despite you having been given free food at 4/

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Please tell me there's more of these.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Sorry no. More of the comic, but not more of the D&D D:

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Manly guys doing manly things http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/ it's a fantastic comic

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not the same, but ties in well: http://dndorks.com/images/comics/11012006_750.jpg

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Well of course a Dwarven Bard with only one leg would run in circles.

11 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

hop*

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like you sir

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm unused to hearing that.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I want to GM but dont know how any suggestions?

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Play a lot and read/re-read all the source material. After you do that accept that you don't know everything and that you will make mistakes

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Have you played in any games yet as a player? That's always the first step.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

No never played. One of my dads colleagues leads a D&D group. Kinda interested in that

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Some folks record their sessions & put them on twitch.tv or youtube, you could watch a few for ideas. Or just hit up roll20.net & play some!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Step 1: don't follow some random internet dude's interpretation of the "right" way to play. Find a playstile that fits you/your players.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Check out Geek and Sundry's Critical Role on YouTube (or Twitch). Fantastic example of roleplaying done well.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can either play "live" on something like roll20 OR (my preference) play by post somewhere like rpgcrossing.net Forum based.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

rule one: make it up.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I would suggest starting as a player, not as a GM. As it will allow you to learn the rules without the headache of leading others.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Ok so i started with rpgcrossing, but ifk if i have the right idea, i mean i went to this one thread and it was like a story

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you would like some more, I would be happy to help. Also, roll20.net

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Send me a private message as a reminder and I'll see what I can do to help after this league match or in the morning.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you would like some more, I would be happy to help. Also, roll20.net

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Get a low level prefab and run it.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yes and no. There are unfortunately some out there that are complete snot. Find the one in the back of the Ebberron book, that one works

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Be the opposite of this guy, because he sounds like the least fun GM ever.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't take your games too seriously. If everyone is having fun, it's ok. There's no right or wrong way to play it.

11 years ago | Likes 96 Dislikes 2

Came to say this, know your group, know the people in it, ask what's okay and what isn't okay. This post is just a GM power trip.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

If there is a specific point you disagree with please say so. This is not a power trip. It's an entertaining writing style for generic RP.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I used to game a while back and I completely agree. Never got into any args with friends. Now, cue all the angry nerds to downvote you. :D

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

But there IS a right or wrong way to play with each group. I hate the guy who plays casual and complains we take the game too serious.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Indeed. It's all about knowing your group's expectations and acting accordingly.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I once played a mentally challenged, hammer throwing dwarf who had a strange affinity for chairs. My DM made me kill him because 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

he wanted his campaign to be "more serious, like game of thrones." It was the most disappointing point in my pen and paper life. 2/2

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*thankyou.gif I am too lazy to find.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Started playing with froends for the first time and we're all noobs not taking it too seriously, having a blast.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Froends are the best.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

It should be noted that the advice above is all from the amateur-thespian school of tabletop RPGs. Not all referees play this way.

11 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 3

Every now and then it is fun to play a one-off hack-and-slash or other genre. But that's more of an exception than the norm.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 9

No one I play with really likes to roll play but watching them use their in game skills to solve problems is still great

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No, this has has nothing to do with hack-n-slash. @linkskywalker14 is absolutely right. OP needs to learn how to balance player needs.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But OP is getting there. He's matured to like stage 2 of 5. Keep developing your GMing craft.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For you, perhaps. For most people I know it's a game about overcoming challenges via creative thinking, not a game about acting.

11 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 2

Tis both. Pure roleplay without a decent challenge gets a bit taxing. Whereas nothing but puzzles and battles feels a bit shallow.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 8

This should be in your post, somewhere. The intro to "everyone does this differently, and you will fight about it sometimes"

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I will include something about this in the GM post later.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not every game is the same, not every gm is the same, not every group is the same. I play 8 unique* games and some are laborious at times.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shut up you pretentious twat. You play role playing games to role play.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 29

The thespian aspects of role playing games are a later invention.They're not badwrongfun, but they're also not the One True Path.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Can't speak for anyone else but I play roll playing games to have fun, most people I play with don't have a backstory for their people.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

That's great, as long as you don't join groups of RPers and complain. I've seen far too much of that.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh no, I only play games like this with close friends I can't imagine doing this sort of thing with an outer group

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Awesome! I'm glad you are having fun playing the games.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't understand criticizing a long backstory. I could write books on characters' backstories, but it's not like you get it all at once1/2

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

My character's backstory isn't known to other characters and often not even other players, only through interaction is it learned.2/2

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That is excellent. Unfortunately, some (many) feel the need to make sure everyone knows everything about their character from the get-go.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And then the damn rogue gets you killed before you can put any of it to use, frigging cheapskate didn't even need that potion!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Joke's on you: I am the rogue.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As someone who GM's all the time, love this love everything about it

11 years ago | Likes 192 Dislikes 3

I started playing d&d a little over a year ago. We finished 2 campaigns and now I'm the next dm. I'm very excited.

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I miss it so much! its been like 2 years

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago (deleted Sep 11, 2015 3:40 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

It's healthy to realize when you're roleplaying as an asshole and to change that character for the better

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Always a GM, never a PC. I want a print-out to hand out on the first night of each campaign I do.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I GM almost every week, and although I agree with some of it, frankly a lot of this is just obnoxious.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

What is obnoxious about it? (I'm new to D&D and don't really know all the ins and outs yet so the more insight / knowledge the better)

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

(2/2) usually deal with it. There's tons of different ways that players AND GMs do things, you can't just funnel that into a formula.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This person has a very specific view of how a player should act. Let people play how they want and if it doesn't work the GROUP will (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

For example, the 'I do X damage' thing. When they fight, depending on how they do something, I'll describe what happens based on the result.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's all apples and oranges, and is too large of a thing to bottle up into a list of do's and don't's. Just let people play, I say.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Good stuff, thanks!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I agree whenever I see a list like this it's clear that this guy needs to talk to his own party instead of strangers on the net.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah, it just sounds like passive-aggressive venting.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Another tip, try other games besides D&D. Not that it is bad. Just expand your horizons.

11 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

Play anything. Cloak and dagger, super heroes, gritty reality, horror, comedy. You'll have fun.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm ashamed by the lack of warhammer here, both classic and 40k

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've tried out Call of Cthulhu, and want to do GURPS.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This, especially if you have a particular genre you're going for other than "fantasy adventure". RPGs can be surprisingly specific; 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In fact, for almost any large-ish book/movie franchise (Harry Potter, Evangelion, Star Wars), there's an RPG of it, fanmade or official.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you splice in the backstory and rename a few things, Don't Rest Your Head would make the perfect Madoka Magica RPG.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Definitely. Another two of my favorites are Exalted (for political games) and Shadowrun, for modern cloak and dagger.

11 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

I fuckin' love Shadowrun. Finishing up my shaman-face for 5E right now. He uses a spraypaint canister as his fetish and is a street artist.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I am down to play Exalted (and run it) under pretty much any circumstances at any time. And I prefer Earthdawn to Shadowrun (RIP FASA).

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shadowrun is a grossly under appreciated scenario.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I also have a home made Fallout game using the World of Darkness D10 system.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I love this one: http://eclipsephase.com/resources And of course there is also Pathfinder, Mutants and Masterminds, World of Darkness...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Unhallowed Metropolis, sukkah!!!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My friends don't give a shit about the role playing. We just play Munchkin, but in such a manner it drags on for hours.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dark Heresy, talk about background potential!

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Best part of 40k barely makes it to the tabletop.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Rifts is always fun and Shadowrun is amazing :D

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Rifts and Harnmaster are my favorites.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I really need to start playing Rifts again. So many games, so little time :(

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you're into tabletops and you've never played Paranoia, you're missing out.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Shadowrun is an excellent game that melds fantasy and scifi. Black Crusade is a great game if everyone wants to be the biggest dicks ever

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I will always be here recommending the Fate system. Just finished an awesome, 3 year campaign in the Dresden Files RPG

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I've played a Dresden LARP using fate, worked out really well.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love Fate! I have GM'd a Harry Potter themed game and I'm planning to try Fate Accelerated for some one-shots for tabletop beginners.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Heyyy!!! I had great fun with this system, except the DM let one player make a character who was basically a knight of the cross with guns..

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We had a weredragon, a Tengu monk with a Denarius, and a naagloshii scion. We were cool with pretty much whatever.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hi, big Dresden fan here. Is the Dresden Files RPG pretty good? I don't know much about it

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's great. Much bigger focus on telling the story and creating interesting characters. Pretty good about not letting rules bog down play

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How is DFRPG? I love the books and have always wanted to try it, just wasn't sure how good it was compared to, say, D&D.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's different. Much more accessible and it keeps the action quick. Very rules-light in comparison, but still models the world really well

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's good; sometimes rules-light can be better. Dread gets by with "just pull a Jenga block out instead of rolling dice" and is awesome

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah I love all the different systems people come up with. Fate gets by with the same four dice with every roll.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I second this. As a GM I love running GURPS. It gives me so much more flexibility than what D&D offered me.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Personally, GURPS is my favorite, mainly for the reason OP made this: less numbers, more roleplaying

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yay GURPS!! Love the quirks and dis/advantages options.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Gurps is great if you have seasoned players who can understand what the numbers in the books mean but it is definitely not a starting system

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sounds Like its time to break out.....another Tabletop Post. Also; Never trust White Wolf Indexes

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ha, oh man. I love WW games and hate all their players.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dungeon World, yo.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Anything with the Apocalypse World engine. Every indy game maker at Gencon and Origins is using Apocalypse World, and I'm loving it.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I picked up the book last month and have been waiting to run it.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This, a thousand times THIS!

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

FATE, Monster Hearts, Dark Heresy 2E, nWoD.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Reign is an excellent RPG, so excellent in fact that i will link to the FREE DOWNLOAD:http://gregstolze.com/features-tag/reign/ (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Download that shit, and even if you don't play it read his summary on the effects of magic in a world, it highlights everything (2/3)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wrong with DnD magic. (3/3)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Used to play a halfling who had won a war elephant in a poker game and insisted on carrying his ladder around with him so he could ride it.

11 years ago | Likes 705 Dislikes 1

I have a character who is a Dwarf with crippling student debt and turns into a werewolf whenever he drinks.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Hey man, in EQOA I made a halfling warrior. People used to laugh at me, but I knew something they didn't..

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Im playing an M&M game as a guy with luck powers. But nobody believes Im doing anything. They just think I'm walking around pointing at shit

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

HumanFighter who got failed every perception check and missed an entire battle because he was too distracted by the one bandit he killed.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I had a beguiler with a very low strength but a lot of gear for skillmonkey things. So I had a donkey named Flapjack who was my best friend

11 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

and the party bard and I would make up songs about him and he helped me carry my forgery equipment and other such things. Best donkey ever

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I used to play an Orc Druid who threw his pet bear at people and couldn't read. He was fun...

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I play the straight man, or Arthur Dent would be more accurate. Mostly because I feel like someone should point out the oddity of sitting /1

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

On top of three horses stacked on top of each other, on a floating disc, dragging an orcish throne behind, with four people poking out. /end

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I also like to imagine they smile slightly and enjoy the absolute absurdity that is their life. /real end

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Had a friend with a dwarven warrior who used tavern chairs as his main weapon. They would explode when 20 was rolled.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was playing the other day, nothing really unusual until he stated vomiting celestial lions.... I love this game

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I played a halfling druid who was short for his race - he had to be carried around everywhere before he got his war dog mount.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

15 ft base run speed? Aint nobody got time for that shit. We're carrying your 25 lb ass.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Exactly - but I made up for it with insane spell luck and damage...and I never met a kobold I couldn't kill...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Exactly - but I made up for it with insane spell luck and damage...and I never met a kobold I couldn't kill...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fucking brilliant.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Favorite character: Useless bard/fighter, self-appointed leader. Took credit for everything. Took a large gold reward meant for the party.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why we play this game. Also, what did you name your War Elephant?

11 years ago | Likes 371 Dislikes 1

Bulbous of the long Penis. Could steal anything. Con? Guilt complex. Had to give it back. Stole a female's panties. "You dropped 'em" 1h l8r

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(1/?) I had an elven sorcerer. Who died. And become a flesh golem. With a giant stone chest piece. And a glowing red soul Crystal.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In a DnD game one of our science teachers hosted in high-school my friend was a dark knight who carried a chicken. The chicken was the 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/2 one that really possessed the knights soul. Everyone thought it was a pet.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I created a murderous jester (chaotic neutral)whos been banned in almost every kingdom so far and found a sword that possess the power of -

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Power of Edon (lawful good) the jesters body becomes possed by Edon and Edon only atays with him because 1 he thinks he can make the jester

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A good guy and 2 its one of the only bodys that can hold his energy

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The jester also juggles grenades and collectively has killed 56 kings and an estimated 3000 people though he claims more

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Im a half-elf weretiger ranger who has a penchant for whiskey and i like to collect enchanted items for the honor of my clan.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I made a thief once. Who was like Barney Stinson. And had a rulebook about the thieves. Rule Numbero Uno: Don't steal from the thieves guild

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Rule Numbero Dunno?: Learn Spanish." He was actually more of a combo of Barney and Johnny Bravo & Joey From friends. And called Joey Bravo

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And always did references to the Rules. But I didn't track which rule was which. So at one point, my friend said But that's rule Number 11!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not rule number 45! and then I countered by "Well it's so important it was mentioned twice. That's rule number 46!"

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I named it Jumper, because I wanted to train it to jump fences like the Cavalier's war horse. I was not the brightest halfling. (8 INT)

11 years ago | Likes 326 Dislikes 0

I would give you so much bonus xp for that.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

hated her but also loved using her as a distraction.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I had a premade dwarf fighter with 7 WIS one time. I played Leeroy Jenkins style. I also a human rogue in the same party I was playing. He

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

*also had a

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

As a GM. Can you play in my games? I have a Half-Orc Barbarian, Human Fighter, Elven Ranger and Elven Druid...They are not creative.

11 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 1

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You can indeed. Same with the rest of the cast. Just this group in particular go for tropes over anything imaginative.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was a half orc barb in my first campaign, with 4 INT. Sentences and polysyllabic words were unknown concepts to Grar

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Can my Gnome Bard-Barian join? His name is Hugh Morris, and he beats the fun into people with his own fighting style called Guffaw-Fu.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm making a gnome necromancer, mostly because he wanted to make new friends

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Awwww, he just wants friends! <3

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

my half pixie half dragon ran around naked to be invisible...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What do you want? I have a halfling bard who cant make a roll to hit the broad side of a church, a human Warlock(insert wacky powers here),

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And a Pixie. No class to speak of. Just a Pixie with a Rod of Wonder. Fear for your life.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'd vounteer as tribute becaues my current character is Zealous Eunich war priest who's soul mission is to get a super-weapon to wipe 1/?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

out an entire race. Even he doesn't think it'll work. He does have knowledge on a place to look, it'll take some effort though. 2/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can I play in your games? I once played a lunatic warrior who was "delusional" about being a prince, which he was, but after [1]

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

being imprisioned for some dacades/centuries, the small kingdom was long gone and the land was ridden with goblinoids, and the worst was [2]

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Could you use a dragon aspect with bulemia?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had a Rouge that was obsessed with having the most powerful weapons possible. This led to me stealing a catapult and horses.

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

This is not the proper method of making ground meat. It is, however, the proper way to demotivate a rival army.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

The horses was because it was too big for me to move. It took 4 horses to move it. It was ment to attack castles.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I cried when I couldn't get it across a bridge to escape from the army I stole it from. I tried to talk my party into rescuing Sasha.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

See the game sounds like fun but is it just make up things and the dm decides how things play out? I wish you could play online with people

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Yeah I could never really grasp it. Just making stuff up. Like what?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You can. Via skype (or similar) or play by post. There's a system of rules (some are quite loose) that helps keep things in line.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Some one should make like a game where you can play online and visualize it all unless thats what you mean lol

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That would literally end up as a RPG... That's what RPGS were made for. It's impossibly really to do anything else.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're actually describing RP communities in SL (Second Life) make a character, make any damn thing you want, find a good RP sim, and go!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

you should try boardgame my friend, it might just be what youre looking for.. http://www.boardgame-online.com/

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Roll20 allows for sharing maps, videos, music, etc with the players. Though the game IS primarily played in the theater of the mind.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

As a DM I agree with all but the creative fighting. To me that should be saved for crits and special moments cause it drags out fight

11 years ago | Likes 381 Dislikes 4

This becomes more relevant the bigger the group. If your in a toe to toe slug fest between fighters, just roll it.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

My DM railroads like fucking crazy. He does all the creative fighting bits. Also, good luck doing your own thing related to your backstory.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

As a DM, I did all the rolls 4 both sides behind curtain and added modifiers +/- based on the plan a player had and narrated the effect.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Don't dicemonger. Rolling dice is a huge part of the experience.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

depends on the people. I gave them options. They picked this one.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What this person said. Relevant: http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1098.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a DM I awarded bonuses for actually cool, FEASIBLE stunts as long as they had the rolls to match. Plus, double the fumbles if they fail.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Same, crits, finishing blows, and any kind of daily-use ability call for a little RP, but doing that for every attack drags things out.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

In all my games, you declare attack with a touch of flavour, I give the details when I calculate damage.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

To say nothing of it is usually...not very good. Non-professional writers describing the same thing hundreds of times is boring, not fun.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah true

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As DM I like to describe what happens when the player attacks

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Agreed, I only allow "creative control" when a party member can wipe out more than half the monster's health at once.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A brief sentence describing the action would still be fun. If it starts to drag too much, have the DM do it.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

DM doing it makes sense. If you declare some epic hit that gets DRed down to less than a tenth of their HP, it gives a feeling of disconnect

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yea in 3.5 when you hit that level 15 mark our combats started to take an entire 3-4 hour session in and of themselves.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can't stand DMing my friends because I have to tell them to do things. "Fucking talk to each other" and they just kinda sit there.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had a player who tried to do creative fighting a bit too hard .. you do not have two weapon fighting, describing it better is still -6/-8

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think it's a system/genre/tone issue. If you're playing apocalypse world narration is basically mandatory. Pathfinder? Not so much.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My friends and I did a ridiculous Star Wars RPG campaign. One battle, we were on a small vessel with our ship tailing us. Droids were over 1

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Over what?!?!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's fair. Depending on the party's playstyle and group size, it can certainly drag things out too much.

11 years ago | Likes 125 Dislikes 2

Very much depends on your group. Players that think out their turns during other turns are God's.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I can't believe I missed this! This is amazing point that comes up all too often.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Had a DM describe fights in too much detail, took forever. Made me just say "Fireball. Save DC 27. 38 damage" so we could actually progress.

11 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

This goes further still in 4th edition. there's enough detail to the combat in just the mechanics, no time to write novels each attack.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

We had one guy who, every damn turn, wanted to do something memorable, his turn took a legit full 2 or 3 minutes. Jackass...

11 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

I fucking hate when people agonize over every detail just to come up with a stupid move!!! Ruins the game for everyone

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I find that that is usually the same guy who is playing standard protagonist #3

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Unless it's their first time, then love and forgiveness abounds

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

He had played enough times. It wasn't that he was figuring out how to do something as much as what dumbass thing was possible to do.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"I grab the rope, cut it, fly up, somersault, fire my crossbow in midair, swing with my sword as I land, then try to intimidate them." UGH.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Pathfinder. Gunslinger using a double hackbut and the Leaping Shot feet. Simple maneuver, but you always feel like an action hero.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i love my musket master! lol

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Sure, but it will take you six turns to do it."

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"Hold on, I can spend an action point, and I have this ability, and this other thing, and lemme look for the rule in this, no, that book."

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0