Jan 12, 2019 12:38 AM
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Woo!
LesserEvils
They are real big in Holland, but that is about to change due to subsidie change. Wanna drive a 100k Tesla or a 100k BMW? I’d know.
GordonRamseysMidgetPornDouble
We've got 4 in our small neighborhood already..
TexxasTerror
On my last trip to S Korea I saw Tesla cars everywhere, my hotel even has a line of charging stations
memostothefuture
"invade"
nainogero
It’s a crisis, a national emergency - Cheetoh
Bentleyboys
One-we already have Tesla and Two- people are already buying something else that doesnt fall apart the moment it rains.
reineseele
As an EU citizen: We ain't all rich...
fluffypuff
or buy cars on credit
UnflippedCoin
Quick! To the lightening mobile!
TinkerThinker42
Not another Blitzkrieg!
RonBurgundyChannel4
Article on it https://electrek.co/2019/01/11/tesla-model-3-shipment-oversea-deliveries/
robocopvsninja
Been here for a while
slvrsaber
I was in Norway this summer and Teslas were everywhere.
risingjudaas
I-Pace came just right before summer and its already outclassed Tesla! Tesla is like Apple, nothing new, just design!
21viking
So it begings.
spazzysquirrel
Didn’t they break up back in the ‘90s?
JackieTreehornProductions
Changes always happen.
Daymanssky
They're just so expensive
ebonyfaery
There's already tesla here. In the UK at least.
Mikeldi
I live near Bilbao, Spain. I've only seen one tesla and it was a taxi
bidragskungen
European car brands can build better electric cars than Tesla but Tesla has undoubtedly the best battery infrastructure
ReichErruschach
Are they parked infront of IKEA?
fuselfluppe
that thing on the right is the ship that brought them there. seafarers often call them shoe carton (shoe box).
Namotatop
fuck yes
martinyver
China
szajba
Oh yes!
Tesla? I-Pace, Nissan Leaf, Kona already conquered Norway which got worlds largest ev owners! Tesa got good design but rubbish interior!
OptimistPrime69
Having driven plenty of Teslas and other EVs, this comment is spot on.
Seethreepeeoh
Why the downvotes?
It's okay, Tesla fanboys are a particularly sensitive bunch. Honestly, the Jag I-Pace just blows the Model X away in the areas that count.
theFinks
Are they ON the ship? If so that's a wide ass ship and why aren't they covered or strapped? I'm confused
JohnnyLawlessEsq
1) That’s the shipyard. The boxy blue + white thing is the car carrier. They’re called “RoRos.” Supposed to mean “Roll on, Roll-off,” but...
2) we like to say it means “Roll on, roll over,” because they are unusually prone to capsizing due to their very high center of gravity.
misteroldschool
They are actually pretty common to see here in the Netherlands
Paoloc0mments
HOLD...HOLD...CHAAAARGE!
2phukdup
... And then go
TheRicM
NeverEverWrong
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SayULuvCrepes
How long do they have to charger before they'll be ready to attack?
NapkinBob
Depends if it's a supercharger or not.
Euchre
Beat me to it, but - about 20 minutes, so as fast or faster than it would take to just start up an M1A1 and get it ready to roll
SecretImigurianLurkerAgent
A tactical start with a warm motor is a lot faster more like a car
I'm comparing charge from dead to cold start. Turbines take time to warm up.
DrDarkwing
Hopefully the invasion is complete before the Low Battery light comes on.
Itchy73
Dcdc kicks on if 12v gets low.
Well they should be able to make 400 miles before that happens, so they can take France at least, which isn't really saying much, granted...
BungusAmungus
Or 600 if these are the new models
600 is ideal conditions, which a blitz invasion wouldn't be. 1/3 loss of range is fair.
You gotta have the radio on, that's gonna take a couple miles off. Maybe a little temp adjustment. If it's not during the day, headlights...
SpaceGK
You're right. Gasoline could be replenished, but batteries can not be.
Well, if you gotta stop overnight to fill up it's not much of blitzkrieg, now is it?
Things tesla are: sexy. Things tesla are not: zero emissions, carbon neutral.
Davidnfilms
How are they not zero emission?
Its the fuel that creates the carbon emission. Electricity is not fuel. The fuel is used in the creation of the elect. Same as for
Your house, air con, your phone, industry etc. We don't tell ourselves these are zero emissions.
infernalcombustionengine
It's a step that way though, come the days of fusion then this shit already exists. That's where we need to be.
Already exists? Electric motors predate internal combustion. All that's happening here is greenwashing
I know but electric motors from the 1800s probably won't cut it these days though lol
MissingImage
I don't think anyone is saying they are either of those things. They say stuff like "low emissions" and "low carbon footprint" all the time.
In the small print yes. In the pitch and advertising, constantly.
Agisek
You morons forget that electricity can be made with zero emissions, while burning gasoline can't
And you soundbite zealot morons don't know the difference between "can be" and "is" ... and "electricity" "isn't" and "wont be"
GODSIWASSTRONGTHEN
You have no idea how much pollution is made from the battery production is and how little electric power is non renewable
etcnotect
In Europe 29% was renewable and 26% was nuclear. Also the big thing about electric it improves city air quality.
That's true. It doesn't change the fact that the vehicle has to be driven over 100,000 miles or 160,000km to even break even on pollution
https://blog.ucsusa.org/rachael-nealer/gasoline-vs-electric-global-warming-emissions-953
Also you meant to say renewable not nonrenewable
But you're an idiot and couldn't work that out?
HairytheSheep
Talked to a few owners, dont seem to reliable. Nevertheless, hopefully Tesla will encourage other automakers to produce more full electrics
Some predictions say that last year was the peak of ICE car sales
Fiss
They're getting some of the best cost-per-year maintenance figures, so it might just be skewed expectations. They're still cars, not magic.
the main issue is not having shops to work on them, they all get sent to the factory for any work
Very true. A little lube and software updates are one thing, but major repairs are still $$$$
OdinYggd
Full electrics are garbage. They're good for commuting and nothing else, you can't road trip with them because they need to charge up.
They have a 300 mile range, which means i can go over a week without recharging. Thats also a 6 hour road trip
Every year I make multiple road trips to the tune of 300 miles one-way. I'd have to recharge before I could come home. Nowhere to charge at.
For my daily commute it would be fine, but for road trips it is entirely unsuitable because I can't just pump gas into it.
I wish the automakers would put more effort into making plug-in hybrids that don't suck. The plug-in hybrid is the real winner here.
I can use a plug-in hybrid as an electric on my daily commute, but if I need to travel I can run it on gas beyond its home range.
thechelonianshelmet
Imagine taxi firms using Teslas, every firm with it's own chargers, after seeing them use it, they'd probably catch on even quicker
GuW69
We actually have a taxi company that only drive Teslas here
That's good to know, I wonder if they do or have considered offering a charging service for other Tesla drivers
They don't have a charger, they are constantly hogging the superchargers at the mall
Wow that's bad, they're setting a poor example. Maybe Tesla or the mall could do something about that. Maybe force firm to install their own
echonite
Tesla is already popular in Europe. Didn't Tom Scott do a video on a city there with a shit ton of electric cars?
StorellaDeville
Is that a metric shit-tonne?
oldshot
Or shite-tonne ?
totallynotthefbibro
Norway I guess...https://youtu.be/zSjYra7cYqY
ZombieZooZombieZoo
Yup, first time I rode in a Tesla was in an Uber in Madrid
TheRealFireFrenzy
I see quite a few of them driving about the place, i mean it isnt like VW golf big but you do see them places
died0
I'm guessing this is the model 3 finally being shipped?
ekiwok
In Norway is super popular because more powerful emission cars have much higher taxes. In continental Europe we just stop buying diesels.
MrE158
Except in France, where if you try to put extra taxes on diesels they spend months making a mess of Paris.
MushroomFiend
That was Norway I believe. Their biggest export is natural gas. Government counter acts with huge subsidies for electric vehicles.
schlummi
Norway is like 95% hydropower. They got tons of electricity. They also use electricity to heat their houses.
princessswan
And Tesla still cost a fortune here.
misho
Everything costs a fortune there.
True that! At least school doesn't.
guyfromdenmark
Yeah, in Norway over 60% of the cars are electric
PedroBenecol
For a country that's made out of oil money they don't like to get high on your own supply. Directly, at least.
rezpawner
I'm fairly certain that the number is 60% of cars being sold, not 60% of cars in general.
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsTheBabyAteMyDingo
True
Did you just assume my facts?
LesserEvils
They are real big in Holland, but that is about to change due to subsidie change. Wanna drive a 100k Tesla or a 100k BMW? I’d know.
GordonRamseysMidgetPornDouble
We've got 4 in our small neighborhood already..
TexxasTerror
On my last trip to S Korea I saw Tesla cars everywhere, my hotel even has a line of charging stations
memostothefuture
"invade"
nainogero
It’s a crisis, a national emergency - Cheetoh
Bentleyboys
One-we already have Tesla and Two- people are already buying something else that doesnt fall apart the moment it rains.
reineseele
As an EU citizen: We ain't all rich...
fluffypuff
or buy cars on credit
UnflippedCoin
Quick! To the lightening mobile!
TinkerThinker42
Not another Blitzkrieg!
RonBurgundyChannel4
Article on it https://electrek.co/2019/01/11/tesla-model-3-shipment-oversea-deliveries/
robocopvsninja
Been here for a while
slvrsaber
I was in Norway this summer and Teslas were everywhere.
risingjudaas
I-Pace came just right before summer and its already outclassed Tesla! Tesla is like Apple, nothing new, just design!
21viking
So it begings.
spazzysquirrel
Didn’t they break up back in the ‘90s?
JackieTreehornProductions
Changes always happen.
Daymanssky
They're just so expensive
ebonyfaery
There's already tesla here. In the UK at least.
Mikeldi
I live near Bilbao, Spain. I've only seen one tesla and it was a taxi
bidragskungen
European car brands can build better electric cars than Tesla but Tesla has undoubtedly the best battery infrastructure
ReichErruschach
Are they parked infront of IKEA?
fuselfluppe
that thing on the right is the ship that brought them there. seafarers often call them shoe carton (shoe box).
Namotatop
fuck yes
martinyver
China
szajba
Oh yes!
risingjudaas
Tesla? I-Pace, Nissan Leaf, Kona already conquered Norway which got worlds largest ev owners! Tesa got good design but rubbish interior!
OptimistPrime69
Having driven plenty of Teslas and other EVs, this comment is spot on.
Seethreepeeoh
Why the downvotes?
OptimistPrime69
It's okay, Tesla fanboys are a particularly sensitive bunch. Honestly, the Jag I-Pace just blows the Model X away in the areas that count.
theFinks
Are they ON the ship? If so that's a wide ass ship and why aren't they covered or strapped? I'm confused
JohnnyLawlessEsq
1) That’s the shipyard. The boxy blue + white thing is the car carrier. They’re called “RoRos.” Supposed to mean “Roll on, Roll-off,” but...
JohnnyLawlessEsq
2) we like to say it means “Roll on, roll over,” because they are unusually prone to capsizing due to their very high center of gravity.
misteroldschool
They are actually pretty common to see here in the Netherlands
Paoloc0mments
HOLD...HOLD...CHAAAARGE!
2phukdup
... And then go
TheRicM
NeverEverWrong
SayULuvCrepes
How long do they have to charger before they'll be ready to attack?
NapkinBob
Depends if it's a supercharger or not.
Euchre
Beat me to it, but - about 20 minutes, so as fast or faster than it would take to just start up an M1A1 and get it ready to roll
SecretImigurianLurkerAgent
A tactical start with a warm motor is a lot faster more like a car
Euchre
I'm comparing charge from dead to cold start. Turbines take time to warm up.
DrDarkwing
Hopefully the invasion is complete before the Low Battery light comes on.
Itchy73
Dcdc kicks on if 12v gets low.
Euchre
Well they should be able to make 400 miles before that happens, so they can take France at least, which isn't really saying much, granted...
BungusAmungus
Or 600 if these are the new models
Euchre
600 is ideal conditions, which a blitz invasion wouldn't be. 1/3 loss of range is fair.
DrDarkwing
You gotta have the radio on, that's gonna take a couple miles off. Maybe a little temp adjustment. If it's not during the day, headlights...
SpaceGK
You're right. Gasoline could be replenished, but batteries can not be.
DrDarkwing
Well, if you gotta stop overnight to fill up it's not much of blitzkrieg, now is it?
Seethreepeeoh
Things tesla are: sexy. Things tesla are not: zero emissions, carbon neutral.
Davidnfilms
How are they not zero emission?
Seethreepeeoh
Its the fuel that creates the carbon emission. Electricity is not fuel. The fuel is used in the creation of the elect. Same as for
Seethreepeeoh
Your house, air con, your phone, industry etc. We don't tell ourselves these are zero emissions.
infernalcombustionengine
It's a step that way though, come the days of fusion then this shit already exists. That's where we need to be.
Seethreepeeoh
Already exists? Electric motors predate internal combustion. All that's happening here is greenwashing
infernalcombustionengine
I know but electric motors from the 1800s probably won't cut it these days though lol
MissingImage
I don't think anyone is saying they are either of those things. They say stuff like "low emissions" and "low carbon footprint" all the time.
Seethreepeeoh
In the small print yes. In the pitch and advertising, constantly.
Agisek
You morons forget that electricity can be made with zero emissions, while burning gasoline can't
Seethreepeeoh
And you soundbite zealot morons don't know the difference between "can be" and "is" ... and "electricity" "isn't" and "wont be"
GODSIWASSTRONGTHEN
You have no idea how much pollution is made from the battery production is and how little electric power is non renewable
etcnotect
In Europe 29% was renewable and 26% was nuclear. Also the big thing about electric it improves city air quality.
GODSIWASSTRONGTHEN
That's true. It doesn't change the fact that the vehicle has to be driven over 100,000 miles or 160,000km to even break even on pollution
etcnotect
https://blog.ucsusa.org/rachael-nealer/gasoline-vs-electric-global-warming-emissions-953
etcnotect
Also you meant to say renewable not nonrenewable
Seethreepeeoh
But you're an idiot and couldn't work that out?
HairytheSheep
Talked to a few owners, dont seem to reliable. Nevertheless, hopefully Tesla will encourage other automakers to produce more full electrics
etcnotect
Some predictions say that last year was the peak of ICE car sales
Fiss
They're getting some of the best cost-per-year maintenance figures, so it might just be skewed expectations. They're still cars, not magic.
HairytheSheep
the main issue is not having shops to work on them, they all get sent to the factory for any work
Fiss
Very true. A little lube and software updates are one thing, but major repairs are still $$$$
OdinYggd
Full electrics are garbage. They're good for commuting and nothing else, you can't road trip with them because they need to charge up.
HairytheSheep
They have a 300 mile range, which means i can go over a week without recharging. Thats also a 6 hour road trip
OdinYggd
Every year I make multiple road trips to the tune of 300 miles one-way. I'd have to recharge before I could come home. Nowhere to charge at.
OdinYggd
For my daily commute it would be fine, but for road trips it is entirely unsuitable because I can't just pump gas into it.
OdinYggd
I wish the automakers would put more effort into making plug-in hybrids that don't suck. The plug-in hybrid is the real winner here.
OdinYggd
I can use a plug-in hybrid as an electric on my daily commute, but if I need to travel I can run it on gas beyond its home range.
thechelonianshelmet
Imagine taxi firms using Teslas, every firm with it's own chargers, after seeing them use it, they'd probably catch on even quicker
GuW69
We actually have a taxi company that only drive Teslas here
thechelonianshelmet
That's good to know, I wonder if they do or have considered offering a charging service for other Tesla drivers
GuW69
They don't have a charger, they are constantly hogging the superchargers at the mall
thechelonianshelmet
Wow that's bad, they're setting a poor example. Maybe Tesla or the mall could do something about that. Maybe force firm to install their own
echonite
Tesla is already popular in Europe. Didn't Tom Scott do a video on a city there with a shit ton of electric cars?
StorellaDeville
Is that a metric shit-tonne?
oldshot
Or shite-tonne ?
totallynotthefbibro
Norway I guess...https://youtu.be/zSjYra7cYqY
ZombieZooZombieZoo
Yup, first time I rode in a Tesla was in an Uber in Madrid
TheRealFireFrenzy
I see quite a few of them driving about the place, i mean it isnt like VW golf big but you do see them places
died0
I'm guessing this is the model 3 finally being shipped?
ekiwok
In Norway is super popular because more powerful emission cars have much higher taxes. In continental Europe we just stop buying diesels.
MrE158
Except in France, where if you try to put extra taxes on diesels they spend months making a mess of Paris.
MushroomFiend
That was Norway I believe. Their biggest export is natural gas. Government counter acts with huge subsidies for electric vehicles.
schlummi
Norway is like 95% hydropower. They got tons of electricity. They also use electricity to heat their houses.
princessswan
And Tesla still cost a fortune here.
misho
Everything costs a fortune there.
princessswan
True that! At least school doesn't.
guyfromdenmark
Yeah, in Norway over 60% of the cars are electric
PedroBenecol
For a country that's made out of oil money they don't like to get high on your own supply. Directly, at least.
rezpawner
I'm fairly certain that the number is 60% of cars being sold, not 60% of cars in general.
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsTheBabyAteMyDingo
True
guyfromdenmark
Did you just assume my facts?