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littlemorte
Most illegal immigrants come to the country legally as tourists and never renew their visas and become illegal. Just FYI
Shephed
So? Why not legalize them?
TakWriterOfWorlds
There really isn't much of this that's correct, but thanks for trying.
IWishIHadASoul
Almost not totally dumb
Guampudo
Do not support services for illegals, but do support making it easier for people to enter legally. Obviously there is a need for their work.
haltwenty13
No state tax and sales tax fixes this.
IUpvoteScience
People must really enjoy things explained to them like they're 5. Third time I see this in 2 days.
GeezMawrice214
All the whites in my neighborhood have food stamps and government support. The Mexicans are working their asses off to skip that shit.
ShowMeYoKitties
Drosophilamelanobastard
"slaves got free room and board while white laborers had to pay rent AND taxes, sound's like a pretty kushy gig"
armitagecasemolly
Except this scenario doesn't represent the fact that most illegal immigrants pay taxes. Quit making up BS to justify your opinion.
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
Okay this has been debunked a thousand times since it emerged in 2009. You're a stupid cunt for posting it again.
majesticogopogo
Question from non-American- you need your green card to register for Medicaid etc In Arizona So wouldnt this person be just a legal asshole?
MuttonChopsMcLamb
This is ridiculous.
TheLeftPocket
You are telling me its more profitable to be an illegal immigrant? Makes me wonder why they live with 40 people in a 1 bedroom apartment.
TakWriterOfWorlds
You're saying there are holes in this shitty stick figure cartoon. Say it ain't so.
Chemdog500
Real quick. I was illegal for 14 years paid taxes and was not alowed tp collect medicaid or social welfare. I only went to the hospita
Chemdog500
And property tax is where the schools get the miney so wtf are you talking about juans kids went to school for free
Chemdog500
When my apendix broke. You guys think illegal immigrants dont want insurance? You think hospitals just give out free care. Fucking joke
Chemdog500
Im just saying you have no protection you're alone and left to your witts. Also I paid property tax everyone does.
Chemdog500
One more thing. We could never call the cops because we where scared of being deported. They stole my bike and we couldn't call.
Chemdog500
They robbed our house and we didnt calm. It was hell
teamsatyrboom
While I get your point, I don't think this takes into account the likelihood of Juan getting such a job to being with. Please give stats.
SocialGadfly
All of this, fucking yes. As a legal immigrant, fuck the illegals and deport them all.
KvatchGuard
As someone whose father came from lebanon as a refugee legally, this guy gets it^^^
JMaxGarage
EXACTLY! I came here legally as well and I get to pay taxes out my ass for these fuckers to have it easy and carry more cash than me. (1/2)
JMaxGarage
(2/2) Then they have the audacity of crying over this. I make 80K on paper & I know illegal masons making 47K pocketing more cash than me.
WakaFlakka
:( this comment has more gross upvotes than the post does
darkskymatters
Deport it! Rahhhhh!
AlabasterSexington
Oyyou
It's not about the points. It's about the message.
KvatchGuard
Because waka flaka is a shit rapper
tryingtochangeourplanet
Gonna need some sources on that
1sneakymidget
How are illegals eligible for food stamps and welfare benefits? I've heard people argue this but I never see evidence.
kcufuck
If you have to stretch 52000 a year then you are living way above your means.
TakWriterOfWorlds
waterworldisthebest
Someone is going to say this is wrong. I will say you can twist the numbers how ever you like.
TheLeftPocket
Yes illegal immigrants also get a free blowjob from god himself and 10 million dollars in cash. They have everything better all the time.
jakkejakke22
Or maybe the problem is the companies who hire people "under the table"?
Pullout69
Wouldn't be an issue without illegals.
Flopolopagus
They are sometimes pretty big companies, too. Ones that like this to get around offering benefits.
greydays
By that analogy, instead of having cops do their jobs and enforce laws ... you believe criminals should stop committing crime.
jakkejakke22
Unreported employment is a crime and requires officials to deal with it.
Kidiri
The obvious solution is that Joe Legal gets paid under the table as well.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
As someone who has to deal with this, it's next to impossible to actually vet people for legal status without being at risk of lawsuits. 1/2
PirateRubberDuck
We need proof of identity and address for everything here. Also an national insurance number to get a job.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Basically unless they're dumb enough to tell us we can't even report our suspicions.
TheWholeBlueberryExperience
That makes no sense. Any job I've ever got, I had to have a social security number and background check.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
The problem is that if anything is sketchy and we report it and it turns out the person could work here legally the liability is on us. 1/2
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
So we really have no incentive to look at things any more then we are required to, and a huge incentive not to look more then we have to.
TheWholeBlueberryExperience
I just don't see how that would be a negative thing for HR services to report anything as sketchy. Literally why it's there.
misterbookman
I would love to hear some solutions for fixing this is a manner that all sides will be happy with. We can't just deport illegals, right?
enzymaticrxn
These combined add thousands of new people into the tax base and is a significantly less expensive option than deportation
misterbookman
That's not a bad list of things. What do we do with existing illegals?
enzymaticrxn
3) Reform immigration policy to allow for a fast and streamlined path to citizenship
enzymaticrxn
1) Enforce penalties against employers to discourage the hiring of illegal immigrants
DamascusDan
Why not?
misterbookman
Because a lot of them have families, have made lives, are actually contributing to society. It's easy on paper but harder in real life.
enzymaticrxn
2) Create policies to make government assistance programs require proof of citizenship
kamosey
Was this posted on some Breitbart facebook page? It's the third time I've seen it reposted here in the last couple of hours.
TranceEnding
It's the first time I've seen it because I go on imgur at different times of the say.
JMaxGarage
But its true though. I came here legally & became a legal citizen in 2008. It's not that hard but people are lazy to do it the right way.
shirtlessjeffgoldblum
Must have been. It's been on the internet since at least 2009 and has been debunked numerous times.
chrisnumbers
got a link to a debunking of this? I'm interested
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
Oh god here we go, it's been posted once now we'll never see it even though it has no sources, no siting, nothing useful besides insults 1/2
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
we'll never see it end*
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
and treating the opposition like a bunch of idiots while oversimplifying a ridiculously complex issue with multiple options. 2/2
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Iamblaine
But whyuse facts when strawmen generate so much hate?
JMaxGarage
This strawman representation is one of the best representations. I am in AZ and have illegal friends pocketing more cash than me. 1/2
JMaxGarage
2/2 - I make 80K on paper, they make about 45K cash. They get insurance & a tax return, I have to pay for my shit. It's fucking terrible.
Pullout69
Yup, and if your income isn't taxed but you still get a tax return, where is that money coming from?
ChickenChickenBurningBright
It's still a fiction. The shit at the end about the kids is just ludicrous. Real cases, real statistics are needed to sway opinion.
JMaxGarage
LOL where do you live? This is exactly what is happening in AZ. I am in AZ. I have illegal friends. This is very accurate. BUT... (1/2)
JMaxGarage
2/2 - I honestly think its not their fault. The system needs a douche. I understand their position & I would take help as well if available.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Do you not understand that I'm not addressing the content at all? I'm addressing the use of a logical fallacy in trying to prove a point.
JMaxGarage
The only fallacy is the looking for jobs one. But the college and school benefits is very fucking real cause I lived it.
Lexotron
Why doesn't the 30% tax cover healthcare? Cone on, USA.
Chzncrackers
Our Military budget is #1 healthcare priority! Still #1 though
HickLife
Because shit like that would be too simple and not make our shithead politicians enough slightly legal money. This countries run by cunts.
FabulousBadass
It does for Medicare and Medicaid.
ThatMomentWhenTheUsernamesPerfectlyDescribeWhatYouNeed
Because according to a lot of my fellow Americans universal healthcare is stealing from people.
ThatsEnoughInternet
That money funds the military of course.
HaydenBrooks
You're actually right.
FabulousBadass
The military spending is far less then entitlements like Medicare and SS.
Monochromatism
Because if healthcare providers got money from taxes, they wouldn't have any incentive to do well since their money is constant.
FabulousBadass
This is true. Much medical innovation occurs because of r&d spending by pruvate companies looking to turn a profit.
loopyloopus
Because it wouldn't, we would have to have tax like France does. Plus allow more govt control, which the US resists.
Lexotron
I live in Canada. I pay, like, 30-35% income tax.
loopyloopus
So, what kind of wait time do you have to get medical care? And is the wait worse for non-emergency?
Lexotron
It's not bad at all. I think Americans have this really distorted view of things. If other countries do things better, there must be a catch
Lexotron
(there's not)
loopyloopus
Possibly, but I got that question from my own experience last time I was in canada. Plus from all the people who also say how bad it is.
loopyloopus
I think other countries might also have a distorted view of the US, after all there is way more good here than bad.