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Jan 12, 2018 10:54 PM
whatwhatinthebuttt
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Science Bitch
hralpha88
Prinzka
"We think"
sensoryte
if someone here can prove the existence of black holes they could be really really rich, highly endowed prizes available and nobel laureate
AreYouFuckinSorryIsAStupidComment
Anyone want to see my black hole?
SquawkBoxIT
I literally just read a thing about Mike Rowe narrating a thing about scientists not knowing if black holes exits. I don't know what reality
Jupman
Did you steal my post from a comment inside a post.
Jaxx421
Alfredo sauce?
oskiodo
I too would like to know.
TheDeadRabbits1846
It deeply saddens me that in my lifetime, I will never truly know the mysteries space has to offer.
UhhhhhNick
You never know, In the next couple decades we might figure out immortality. Or even become cyborgs
TheOnlySedail
Squee9
Alleged black hole. -mike Rowe
dumpmemesnotdreams
Mhm, mhm. Davis could we enhance around perceived entity #3? Gottchya!
ChiefDancingMonkey
If you zoom in far enough you can probably see my ex...... or so she believed.
anitabieror6
ok wait I thought we just learned from mike rowe theres no proof of black holes. is this some ground breaking new clue or what?
UhhhhhNick
Why would you take the word of a tv show host over 99% of Astrophysics experts?
swisstraeng
no that’s why we think there are black holes in the first place.
LongGreasyDick
That username +1
LiberalismIsaDisease2020
Says @LongGreasyDick +1
Brocktooon
Black holes are fake. The guy from Dirty Jobs said so.
angrysharks
Necron space...
gestermods
Universe shithole
Lemonself
I like light days
SciaticNerd
Before the dark days... Before the Empire (Crap, the line was, “before the dark times,” but still!
kohrah
1 is a bit over 25 billion kilometers.
LadiesPleaseDontPmMeYourNudes
Not as messy as heavy flow days.
thegonzoesquire
Maybe...could be a mass of dark matter....or yo momma...
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
idk if you’re half serious but dark matter/energy isn’t dense enough to create this type of gravitational pull.
insegrevious
Typical science. Can’t explain the gravitational effects of your momma.
FilthyFrankAnimeHunter
You know what is dense enough to create this type of gravitational pull?... yo momma
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hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
thegonzoesquire
Blecki
Also since dark matter is matter we can't see... and we can't see black holes... and they are made of matter...
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
wow. profound.
strangerthanfiction1
Black holes matter
definitelyNotTheIRS
You are a moron
Blecki
Okay nice try tax-man.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
a lot of astrophysics experts in the comments that seem to think black holes aren’t real. i did not expect that one.
GoddammitMrNoodle
Hmm.. wonder if they think the earth is flat also.
JaquestheRipper
Yeah! It's incredibly fascinating; black holes haven't been proven, they're just one explanation for some crazy space physics.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
that’s just not true.
JaquestheRipper
Regardless, there's still incredible debate about it in the scientific community.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
there is debate on specific details. not whether or not they exist.
JaquestheRipper
Shit, you're right; I just went back to a few papers. Thanks for the correction.
TeamSpicyTacos
But Mike Rowe said they weren't real tho
TeamSpicyTacos
So, point here is that it is a bit odd to have Rowe host. Post on fp defended a position making it seem like it's a huge question still/
TeamSpicyTacos
But it sounds to close to deniers who give large weight to a small amount of sceptics, similar to my dealings with Evo deniers, etc./
TeamSpicyTacos
The evidence is so strong for singularities that the null is now what phenomenon would cause stars to behave this way if not for black holes
erbiumyttriumytterbium
He's opinionated. Fine by me, he's not forcing me to agree with him. I agree about the skepticism; always start by being skeptical.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
TIL astrophysics is a dirty job.
TeamSpicyTacos
Lol
TeamSpicyTacos
Excellent discussion all!
damien309
they may or may not exist!
BeragondGreatstride
He said their existence is probable but not proven
ChilledOutEntertainer
Strange thing to say given there's no such thing as a scientific proof.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
he’s the host of a show where he digs through shit. and got his job on a whim. he’s not exactly an intellectual.
Azmoten
Not a fan of the guy, but he only said that they MIGHT not be real. Why you gotta misrepresent it?
QueenAmy
I understood that you were joking
TeamSpicyTacos
Thank you for getting it ;)
QueenAmy
There seem to be some people who left their sense of humor at the door
Bisppdx9
He said they were theoretical. That is a big difference.
Un0riginalComment
Rowe Rowe fight the powah
elephantocetomachia
Yeah so is heliocentricity and the fact that our bodies are made of cells.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
still wrong.
LtKifKroker
How so?
iPostReactionMemes
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
because they are very much real... not just some mathematical “theoretical” construct. does this really need to be defended?
ChilledOutEntertainer
They are the most probable explanations, but there are alternatives e.g. gravastar. So while they are probably real, still theoretical.
FaceBookAI
Absolutely because a theory is always up for change or revision. There might be a black hole, or it might be something else we weren't aware
StephanieWasTheTrueVillainOfLazyTown
Mike Rowe doesn't have the qualifications to make such a claim credible.
whitefijian
I'm pretty sure he was narrating aka reading a script. Not making the claims himself.
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hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
uh... what?
StephanieWasTheTrueVillainOfLazyTown
Non sequitur. Black holes exist, so say the people with relevant backgrounds. Mike Rowe does not have a background relevant to astrophysics.
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TeamSpicyTacos
Proof is a huge concept not compatible with science. But there is lots of evidence they exist
inkpod
No proof? Did you see the GIF above?
JubJub897
The evidence that supports the existence of black holes are only theories that attempt to explain why occurrences like this take place.
Jupman
No, black hole is the name if occurrence that is happening.
TeamSpicyTacos
pretty good ones though
ughthatguyagain
We directly detected them though. There was a Nobel prize for that last year. Your statement is not valid.
Crazynastyasshoneybadger
The prize was awarded for the detection of gravitational waves in 2015 believed to be caused by colliding black holes. That doesn't mean
Crazynastyasshoneybadger
Prize was awarded in 2017 for detection made in 2015*
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
do you know how science works? just curious... have you seen an electron? but your tv and phone and computer work because of them. hm.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
my point is... science makes inferences based upon massive amounts of data/observation. when those inferences then give us the exact
Crazynastyasshoneybadger
That black holes are what we think they are. All we know about them for suris there is some sort of extreme gravity anomaly within galaxies.
purpurguin
I mean, the core of the earth is just something that supports the weight of the rest of the earth, but does it really exist? I cant see it..
ughthatguyagain
That’s an understatement of our knowledge of black holes. You would be surprised if you read more. And yes, I happen to work on that field.
stormegedendarklordofall
With that thinking, we know nothing... one could say we don't know how Stars form...
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
that’s a MASSIVE understatement of our knowledge of black holes. your ignorance is not a good reason to doubt something.
ThatsNoMoonItsaSpaceStation
Stars orbiting around Sagittarius A*, the Milky Way’s central black hole
LeroyShabazAli
Fuck ‘em up fam!
kah929
Aka my ex gf
Chpgmr
pff, I dont see anything there.
ElGalloDeOro
I thought it was a supermassive one? With the bright star matter circling it?
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LazyJones1
No, that's something else. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor
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ChilledOutEntertainer
no, that's something else.
Bisppdx9
Maybe black hole.
qussow
Maybe your mom.
PaintedSlate
So legit question. Is the doubt focused on what a black hole is, exactly, or on whether something with similar properties exists at all?
BrofessorMegan
Easy there Mike Rowe
thecolonels
Its like a 99.9% maybe.
NeoAcario
Isn't it's mass estimated at something like 4 million solar masses?
Spunkdust
Still no bigger than yo' mama!
ThatsNoMoonItsaSpaceStation
Yes. Upvote for you.
Paasimus
The mass can be fairly precisely calculated just from that one orbit around it.
satyroffrost
... if you know the mass and plain of orbit of the star orbiting. Not sure we know this parameters.
Paasimus
The mass can be calculated from it's orbit using Kepler's Laws. That compact star, i think, is Sagittarius A*, so the ref star is S2... /1
Paasimus
Now check wiki to confirm results... ~4 million solar masses, so within the error range. That's the short of it. /4
Paasimus
(a=year), and now we apply Keppler's 3rd law to calculate the total mass of SgrA* and S2, which is 3,3*10^6 (+-1,0*10^6) solar masses. /3
Paasimus
Which has semi-major axis of ~5,4 (+-0,4) light days. From that you calculate the period (P), by dA=(dt/P)*A_ell, making P=15,7 (+-0,7) a /2
eviscera
...the one we're orbiting. The one we are *currently* inside of its gravity well. Sleep tight kids!
chardlz
Our children to thousands of degrees won't have to worry about that. Probably
eviscera
Still tho. :) Cool spoopy science fact! Feels pretty cool to picture yourself within the gravitational field of something so massive.
Troldann
Well, we’re within the gravitational field of literally everything in the universe. At least the observable universe. Or is it in our field?
chardlz
Or horrifying depending on how close you are :P
TehBubblez
Black holes terrify me on an existential level
TeamSpicyTacos
Me too
anonwhymouse
Im more scared of Gamma Ray Bursts
Shoelebubba
No real point of being afraid. Their influence is only as fast as the speed of light and you'd be dead way before.
IDidntThinkItWouldBeThisHard
Just remember thatthere are stray ones shooting through the galaxy like bullets swallowing anything unfortunate enough 2 be in de wey brudda
Galactasaur
Can you explain that to me? I’ve heard other people say that and I can’t relate. I hope to study them in graduate school.
Techpriest93
It's one of the few things that if you stick your sick in your never getting it back because the suction is so strong.
Galactasaur
It’s not suction but I get what your point is. To me, it’s why I like them. If I could travel to one that’s how I’d want to die.
DrDoALittleMoreThanBareMinimum
*gravitational pull ... no fluid (air or otherwise) for suction to happen. Right idea though.
TehBubblez
Cosmic events like black holes are things that could wipe us out in an instant, and there is nothing we could do about it. And they're just>
TehBubblez
Galactasaur
You don’t have to worry about a black hole killing us. Plus it would be the coolest way to die imo
Daemon7777
But plz dont let it be one of the small ones. I want it to be a super massive one at least or a quasar. That would be awesome!