Big budget VFX breakdowns

Dec 6, 2019 6:42 PM

Spicymeataball

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Spider-Man: Far From Home

John Wick: Chapter 3

Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them

Captain America: Civil War

A Monster Calls

Good Omens

1922

The Terror

Thor: Ragnarok

The Umbrella Academy

Game of Thrones

The Walking Dead

Avengers: Endgame

In case you didn’t catch why end game composited wardrobes in post: https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/avengers-endgame-cgi-overuse-rushed/amp/

Did those white avengers outfits ever exist practically?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Or, y'know, just find a corn field.

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Thx been looking for this

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Far From Home was probably the best use of canon CGI I've seen in a while. That movie was fun to watch.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thor Ragnarok. Fucking masterpiece.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It must be cheaper than building entire sets

6 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 1

It blows my mind that some of the costumes weren't even real. (Like the time travel suits in endgame)

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*then, no oh wait

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I feel like modern movies are basically just cgi movies with live actors sometimes.

6 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

It’s way cheaper bc VFX artists are over worked and underpaid. Often burnt out and thrown away.

6 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

That, and outsourcing to "poorer" countries, resulting in lowered cost all round, and a de-valuation of the skills involved.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That, plus if you need to change something it can be done in post instead of rebuilding and reshooting.

6 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 0

Yeah I think that was the thing with the suits in endgame, they hadn't decided on the concept for it so cgi baybee

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Much cheaper. Epic games engine can be used even to use a tablet to view the scene in a demo like version for the director too. UE4 rocks

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

True real time is the future specifically with rtx

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So they can get a real train but they can't get real fucking corn? (1922)

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Movies aren't movies anymore.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Please tell me they didn't spend a lot for the dog in Good Omens.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Remember you knew what was animated vs background by the different color style back in the day

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Corridor Crew on YouTube is an interesting watch

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

This. Their reaction videos are great, it really gives you a new appreciation for SFX and stuntwork.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Ok. Looks like I need to look into A Monster Calls, 1922, and The Terror. Didn't even know about those.

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Monster calls is just a super duper sad escapism story.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's super well done though I loved it

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh I loved it too it just kinda guy punches you because I didn't feel like that's how it presented itself initially.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

True I got bridge of terabithia vibes at first, I need to watch this movie again.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Vouching for A Monster Calls. Be ready for a sad one, though.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is why I preferred acting in theatre. I can't imagine the skills this takes to stay in character.

6 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 2

As opposed to see a dark sea of people in one direction and stagehands and props in two?

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

You don't look at the people, you look above them. And I don't know, it's just easier for me. I can't imagine this.

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Dont worry, even Sir Ian Mckellen himself struggled with green screen acting.

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Awesome.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I now have more questions

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Computers

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Digital artists.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

While I appreciate the beauty of modern cgi and recognize the skill involved, I can’t imagine this is much fun for the actors.

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Probably as fun as standing on a stage looking at props for the second act in the wings.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Its not fun for the CG Artists half the time.

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Why do they even put real people or real shit in movies anymore?

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Costs a lot more money

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Because we aren't quite past the uncanny valley yet

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Here's the non-AMP link: https://screenrant.com/avengers-endgame-cgi-overuse-rushed/

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Thank you

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I prefer this version.

6 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

Obligatory: this is from SNL

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...I wanna see this scene animated T.T

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Well being an actor must be harder and more boring than before.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Have you heard of mimes?

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It's amazing that now that they can literally put anything you can imagine on the screen, that movies are still generally shit.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Do go see general movies then.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Mary Jane was so fucking boring and irritating in this movie

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Filmed on location ... j/k it's all done with computers! LOL!"

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Filmed in a location.

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Imagine if they put that much effort into the script

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CG isn't easy but it's relatively straightforward. You just need to know enough about physics to mimic real life. Writing is more nebulous.

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Still so happy I got to see that Mysterio scene. Never thought I'd see a badass version of him in the movies.

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I never thought I’d see him in a movie at all

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I liked that Beck's costume was a mocap suit.

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I'd like to see the scenes from outside of Peter's perspective. Just to see how the hell those even would be possible with just drones.

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Same, like if the Extras had the scenes redone sans holograms.

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Remember all the OUTRAGE about Adam and Eve being black?

6 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 3

Wait until they find out Jesus was probably dark skinned as well

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Olive skinned ♂️ ♂️

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I do, but I’d ragnarok discuss it

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That wasn't the issue, was it? Wasn't it the whole demon protagonist?

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I'm really glad Netflix canceled this show. I can watch Sabrina in piece knowing this this terrible show isn't on Netflix. /s

6 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 3

OH FFS peace... I ruined the joke. No one would be dumb enough to not know which streaming service a show was on AND misspell peace.

6 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Points for effort

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Nope, but then again, I didn't care. I'm here for the stories

6 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 4

[Quickly checks your comment history to find you actively debating religion and politics]

6 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 3

I never saw any outrage over that.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yup. it passed though.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No I remember the outrage. They had a whole list of dumb complaints but the portrayal of Adam and Eve was never one of them afaik.

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I hope it doesn't get to the point of just replacing actor's

6 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Also in Gemini Man they used cgi young Will Smith that apparrently costes more than what they paid Will Smith and it's goos but not perfect

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have you not heard that James Dean is back to acting, 60 years after his death?

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fewer celebrities to worship... I might be okay with that.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's extremely hard to do face expressions so they always need an actor even if they don't use their liking they need their acting.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The plus to this is even ugly actors can do CGI motion capture, it's all about the talent.

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It will. And then we'll hate it after a while and it will revert. Just like 3D

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

If it's not an actor doing it, it's an animator. Either way it's an artist crafting a performance.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

CGI characters (realistic humanoids, at least) start with an actor is a motion capture suit. So no, you don't need to worry.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

They do for the moment.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Changing that would require levels of AI that could replace pretty much every human job.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How many man hours per movie minute goes into this level of stuff?

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I imagine, as pros, they would have a huge amount of tools to make this process faster & easier

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Varies wildly and hard to quantify exactly. One minute vfx heavy shot could cost 100k or millions even. There are elements that are used in

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...many shots so the cost should be divided per shot, like a character. Should the shot cost include compositing and grading and sounds etc.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just pulling a figure out of my ass: 10 000 work hours for one minute final vfx heavy shot.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Holy shit bro as someone who works in movies one action scene that ends up being about 2 minutes is a good 12 hour day bare minimum.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A twelve hour day of how many people?

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

X Doubt

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean, how many sets have you worked on?

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Couple vfx credits, left movies after that. My doubt was because of your answer: 12h day minimum... For how long? How many people?

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Look above for my more professional answer on the op's question.

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