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"Joaquin Phoenix’s Commodus in Gladiator was certainly an inspiration for my characterization of Joffrey, that had a big impact, the smirk. It’s interesting sometimes when an audience can empathize with a villain. But to get completely lost in it, it’s exciting just to be intrinsically evil and not to have a speck of good or humanity in their bones."- Jack Gleeson
KingTopher
Most "Gladiator" movies got this wrong, but thumbs up meant to kill them, and thumbs down mean to let them live... DO YOUR RESEARCH!
repsac
Could we get a movie where Joaquin is the villian and Jack is his sidekick? Oh I'm sorry, let's just have more reboots...
Ryott
Someone needs to make his thumb movements into a downvote gif.
grimol
I'm glad we can like this guy now.
unknownuser0
Spoiler.
unknownuser0
I may be the only one upset about Sunday's episode. I'll really miss his acting.
Jackospade
I WANT TO SEE THE BAD MAN FLY!
valanthos
That image as he kills his father and you see the shadow fall upon Aristotle the face of reason. Excellent.
lokihasanarmy
Saw Gladiator for the first time yesterday; that scene was powerful.
jsktrogdor
I always assumed that was a bust of his father.
Toomuchinternet33
"We've had vicious kings, and we've had idiot kings, but I don't we've ever been cursed with a vicious idiot one!"
fluger
Now THAT is fascinating. I was just commenting to someone how both of these guys did a great job of making us hate them.
Gravityxii
Any man that has to say "I am the King" is no true king.
secondcityguitars
Joffrey didn't die horribly enough.
ThisAwesome
And his death didnt give anyone the opportunity of a revenge. That's sad
PettyThiefLout
I dunno, did you see that colour he turned?? The books explain his pain is more excruciating detail.
boom4real
Phoenix should have been the oscar winner in that film. F'n brilliant performance!
Ifyoutypegoogleintogoogleyoucanbreaktheinternet
I love me some Joaquin Phoenix...
Ovalprocess
Should have won best actor for The Master tbh; Day-Lewis already had enough
Ifyoutypegoogleintogoogleyoucanbreaktheinternet
I agree.I think he's terribly underrated...
SquirrellyWhirly
Man, I love Joaquin Phoenix, and I wanted to like that movie, but I just hated it.
JustKroepos
Actually, it sucks to see him die, he was a really good actor in GoT
icelandicsealbear
Spoiler alert... /:
milk72
insert cliché "HE'S ACTUALLY A NICE GUY IN REAL LIFE" comment
Mooxim
fuck! I knew I shouldn't have been looking at these GOT posts. I'd avoided spoilers so well.
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
It's bittersweet for me. I've been wanting him to die since season 1 but at the same time I'll miss the character I loved to hate.
DeadGirlSuperstar
Now, we can all collectively hate Ramsey.
g011um
That guy is a fucking piece of work. wow.
Greeneyeddevil
Fucking hell, Phoenix was so good in Gladiator it makes me fucking angry.
darxide
Such a shame Jack Gleeson will no longer be acting. That kind of pure talent is very rare.
mindolluin
let's hope that kid doesn't let it all go to his head, yikes!
edemardil
What a great actor. This kid has a bright future.
ninjagaidensigma
AfterTheShadows
"Fuck the King." - Hound
Voidmaster
These two should meet. I would read that fanfiction.
secondcityguitars
Jay Robinson as Caligula in 'The Robe' and 'Demetrius and the Galdiators'.
goddamnBatmanthe
So much spit... getting on their faces. Uuuuuuuhhhh.
Sturbinator
Loved to hate both of these chatacters.
aguyuno
All these people, book readers and show watchers alike, talking about Ramsey for our hateons. As a book reader - did we forget the Freys?!
imweirdinJapan
*upvotes* AM I NOT MERCIFUL?
milk72
amazing scene
TanstaaflTovarisch
Objectively, Joaquin is a much better actor, but Jack somehow made me loath him so much more. So maybe my objectivity needs to be tuned.
JemimasWitnessss
I've seen some episodes of got, I think the actors are alright but none of them really stood out to me
trasneoir
As a fan... yeah, that's probably fair enough. The writing and production flatters some good but not great actors.
Enlyten
I think it's because of the length/depth of the two stories. One is a ~3 hour movie and the other is a running hour-long show...
Greeneyeddevil
I think Joaquin's character is more sympathetic, to start. He turns into a dick but he starts out a kid who wants his dad to like him.
howaboutthisonethen
Well Joaquin's character also had non-"spoiled-little-shit" sides such as day-to-day interactions being normal etc. and soft sides.
GnaeusMarcius
I think most of the Roman emperors who took the throne at a young age were terrible. Nero, Commodus, Caligula. Something to think about.
ARuggedlyHandsomeStarshipCaptain
The one black personality in a sea of gray. Everyone else is motivated by family or love or revenge or lust. Joffrey's just a dick.
TheGist
I just realized how much I wish GRRM had made him a POV char. Even for just one chapter.
ARuggedlyHandsomeStarshipCaptain
OK, never mind.
1nsaneTrane
Also the Mountain, I'd say
Obnoxious
No, I think he just wants to be loved by his mother and grandfather, and he thinks they'll love him if he acts like this.
Hugomanen
Voldemort feels more love than that kid.
IMadeAnAccountJustToWriteThis
Joff? No, he just has a massive ego. He looks down on his mother and grandfather. Because he's been raised to believe that kings > all.
Hugomanen
One correction, king >> all, that little shit believes "Because I'm their king" is the answer to EVERYTHING. Magnificent bastard ^^
110101011101
I think Joffrey is more complex than just "pure evil" or "insane." While he may be there now, remember that he's still a 14 y/o boy...
Obnoxious
You mean he's also uncontrollably horny ?
110101011101
Something that was never resolved in the television show was how Joffrey probably instigated the attempt on Bran's life to impress his dad.
110101011101
... that had an adulterous alcoholic king for a father and a manipulative cunning queen for a mother.
privatedick
Jaimie is Joffrey's father.
110101011101
Genetic father yes, but who raised him as a father?
CerebrawlHemmorage
Oh and of course the mountain... Gregor Clegane.
IMadeAnAccountJustToWriteThis
I get the impression that Gregor's not all there.
xavierjmole
He's all there...and it's all batfuck insane.
CerebrawlHemmorage
A psychopath since childhood yes.
wintermute93
Well, right. But he's also like 8 feet tall and inhumanly strong. I assumed he has some kind of hormonal issue that fucked up his brain too.
MrJoeGGriffiths
I think there was something in the books about that... doesn't he suffer from constant headaches and stuff?
aguyuno
Gregor has an actual mental problem though, I think. So it's aight.
CerebrawlHemmorage
Just because you're a psychopath doesn't mean you're not evil.
aguyuno
I didn't mean that. I meant I think he has like straight up down syndrome
CerebrawlHemmorage
Nah, definitely not that, he might be below average intelligence, but not downs.
InnocentGun
Joffrey is the extreme version of a spoiled brat. He's never been told no in his life and then he's raised to a position of unlimited power
TrippingPocahontas
I think of it less as him "being a dick" and more that he actually feels pleasure/better seeing peoples' misfortune and suffering
ARuggedlyHandsomeStarshipCaptain
aka being a dick.
TrippingPocahontas
Idk, being a dick is like "meh, i don't give a shit about anyone but me" but I sort of associate it his doings w/ mental disturbance/illness
TrippingPocahontas
Like, are the people that commit school shootings just dicks? Or are they mentally disturbed? I guess it's like that.
ARuggedlyHandsomeStarshipCaptain
I mean, I'd say that they're still a dick, but they can be helped from their dickishness. It's a pretty ambiguous term.
ARuggedlyHandsomeStarshipCaptain
Agreed, but there aren't mental health services in Westeros, plus most psychos aren't given absolute power. Sometimes killing is the answer.
polloloco
http://media.oglaf.com/comic/theabyss.jpg
CerebrawlHemmorage
Well... there's still Ramsay Snow/Bolton.
emperorcain
Ramsay is motivated by family. He wanted to be accepted by Roose.
CptTightPants
Yes but he's also a cruel sadist. He's motivated by family but also by a desire to inflict pain on others.
InnocentGun
It's heavily implied he killed Roose's trueborn son, so he can't be that motivated by family.
CptTightPants
Not "family", really, just appealing to his father.
IMadeAnAccountJustToWriteThis
Nah, Ramsay does what he does because he enjoys it.
emperorcain
Then why does he feel the need to explain himself to his dad and show off how Theon is still useful?
AerysIITargaryen
He could be scared of him or of not being accepted by him.
IMadeAnAccountJustToWriteThis
He wants to be the legitimate heir to house Bolton, yes. But he tortures people because he enjoys torturing people. Theon ain't the first.
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
It's not like Theon is his only victim, remember that girl last episode he was hunting? He's just a sadist.
Nobahdi
Ramsay hunts, rapes, and kills women for sport, then names his next dog after the ones that put up a good fight.
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Nobahdi
Nope, just Ramsay.
CerebrawlHemmorage
Even Roose gets disgusted by his excessive sadism, so no. Roose is a ruthless pragmatist, while Ramsay is an outright sadist.
emperorcain
Because he went too far. He was also making excuses and trying to show that Theon could still be used.
CerebrawlHemmorage
Aside from the flaying and torture, he also tempts his captives to escape so he can hunt them for sport, abuses his wife, etc.
CerebrawlHemmorage
Have a read: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Ramsay_Snow
CerebrawlHemmorage
Every time he hunts and kills a captive, he names one of his hunting dogs after it.
CerebrawlHemmorage
None of that is to make a point for his father, the hunting and wife abuse is personal and secret.
adorkably
The show makes it seem like he's trying to please Roose. Book Ramsey is the kind of twisted freak that makes Joffrey look like a saint
zenandtheartofmadness
i'm guessing you're basing your opinion on the show. in the books he's the worst. worse than joffrey by far.
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IMadeAnAccountJustToWriteThis
Then again Daenerys is a product of brother/sister incest as well. As were her parents, their parents, etc.
Tennion
I don't think Daenerys' faimly is the best defense of incest. Wasn't her dad the mad king? and her brother wasn't much better than joffrey
IMadeAnAccountJustToWriteThis
Her other brother was the best and most well loved knight during his life. The Targaryens are very hit or miss. Either they're great or mad.
ir0nstein
I'm still of the impression that Dany is going to head down the "mad" path, not the "great" one.
BootlegGinger
You mean the Mad King and Daenerys pathetic brother? also...joke. m'eh
SarcasticComment
Wow, sister banging tends to run in both their houses
Naredwood
Might be something to do with being an absolute knob jockey...
manslut
Hey, that's an affront to knob jockeys everywhere.
WayLatetotheParty
The sister?
RickyBobbyShakenBake
ahaaa.. you.
huanthewolfhound
Upside: I don't think Commodus got that far...
DallasKeuchelsBeard
I incest you take that back!
SomeReallyBoredGuy
Oh THAT'S what Mercutio was hoping for!
justtherightamountofchesthair
if he's a method actor, he's probably running around set asking where his dad/uncle is
woozle
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milk72
well in Joffrey's defense (cant believe I typed that) he never tried to fuck Myrcella
WellisThisAlsoTaken
Myrcella was too young when she left, I'm sure he would've tried had she staid
InfinitusEquitas
Nah, he got his rocks off with sadism.
woozle
particularly fucking with Tyrion.
InfinitusEquitas
Remember the prostitute he forced another to beat to death. He is sadism personified, Tyrion was just a hobby.
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woozle
LOL "a hobby" GoT threads: