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desertdweller69
So so true, Debbie and her hench girls. Gee Debbie!! Thanks for nothing!!
SEAW1NG
See I tried to convey the trickery by the Democrats and say they went to the LEFT and get down voted. Glad ppl will speak facts.
YeahWhateversBrosephs
all those people hanging out for the last 8 years doing pretty much nothing didn't help much either
Nachotacocat
I just wish I could go live with grandpa Bernie...
Tigersterne
Oh please. Arrogance and no ground game got us Trump.
Gerrery
Sorry to break it to you folks but it was Bernie.
jedi888
Ah no the American people voted and Hillary losr
AwesomeName
FireBreathingFerret
Been thinking this all day :( Fuck.
8213641987365983276598265
Someone take that ugly out
JustANoobOnImgurWithOneCat
THANK YOU!
mericanidiocracy
Blame the Trump voters. This is bullshit.
kinslayers0
Seriously? No accountability with Democrats?
mericanidiocracy
That's not to say Schultz isn't a corrupt insider. She is.
mericanidiocracy
You think a Jewish socialist from Vermont with a Brooklyn cadence was going to win over Republican Trump supporters? Cite a source.
2GunsDually
I like how nobody blames the 42% of registered voters who didn't vote.
kgiraffe
I voted for Hillary in the Democratic primary, but I certainly wish the DNC hadn't thrown the primary for her today.
kgiraffe
The DNC did not remain neutral and give everyone an even shot. I voted for Hillary, and even I can acknowledge that.
educationalballs
Explain how they threw the primary exactly. Was Sanders left off one ballot? Left out of one debate?
Tankdoggy
Debates scheduled during shit time slots, Hillary lied and skipped / canceled the CA debate, DNC funded Clinton, Caucuses were rigged,
educationalballs
Weird that you say caucuses are rigged seeing as they were the only thing Bernie could win.
Tankdoggy
Did you not watch the iowa Caucus shenanigans the Clinton Machine used? Nevada? Highlight why they are horrible, like superdelegates.
Tankdoggy
State parties laundered money to Clinton (yes laundered), she had 8 Super Pac's funneling corporate cash, the Media was in her pocket
Tankdoggy
Hundreds of thousands of voters were denied chance to vote in primaries, due to being thrown off Democratic roles in Bernie areas,
Tankdoggy
not to include millions of Independents in closed party states couldn't vote due to party changing dates for registration and losing them
educationalballs
So it's Hillary Clintons fault that Bernie Sanders supporters couldn't follow simply party registration rules? Weird.
educationalballs
Bernie Sanders outspent her and still lost despite her "8 Super PACs" and "laundered money". Try harder.
Tankdoggy
No, they don't count Super Pac money on her campaign spending, nor the DNC spending on her behalf.
PoultryInMotion
She looks like an ugly old white guy in a wig
ironsteak
Isn't that Willem Dafoe?
idiotn00b
I see you're getting into the Trump era spirit of discussion already.
iknowbigfoot
Wait, that's NOT an ugly white guy in a wig?
Seibmoz
It's Shooter McGavin, back to stir up shit (then eat it)
PoultryInMotion
Hilariously, I almost posted that instead of "old white guy" +1 for also having a weird beain
DownInTheBayou0525
It's count olaf!
The3stParty
USERnamemorelikeLOSERnameright
I'm sure there would have been equally embarrassing stuff in Reince's email account, his just didn't get leaked.
JustTheMostLiberal
Well, I mean if you're SURE.... How could I even doubt you internet stranger?
USERnamemorelikeLOSERnameright
Don't trust me, fellow Imgurian, trust that tingly feeling common sense feeling you probably have in your head. I call it "the smell test."
LosPer
Or maybe they had, like, real security?
TemetNosce000
They were both hacked though
LosPer
According to...the Obama administration, who you trust implicitly, who has no interest in making Trump's win less legitimate?
TemetNosce000
Wow. Tons of allegations there
bamcockseverywhere
Doubtful. Party data infrastructure, just like America's physical infrastructure, was initially pretty shit and has only gotten worse.
LosPer
I'm sure it's doubtful to you, because you want to believe Trump's victory was in part due to selective leaking by Russians...
bamcockseverywhere
No, the parties just don't care about cyber security the way a large corporation does. That's all.
LosPer
Well, maybe that needs to change?
pgarc90
I thought this had been reported? That the RNC had hired better contractors or something.
Abecx
clicking on phishing emails ffs...
bamcockseverywhere
Bruh you don't even want to know about the security clusterfuck that is the Democratic party voter information and donor database
TobySomething
Bernie has said the primary wasn't rigged. Imgur doesn't care and perpetuates BS regardless. Maybe imgur gave us Trump.
Mimsey
Bernie always said he'd support the DNC no matter what, because anything was better than a GOP win. He's just staying true to his word. [2]
Mimsey
Doesn't matter what Bernie said. The leaks, and footage of the primaries and caucuses, prove otherwise AND that they extorted him. [1]
PotatoThunder
Liberals acting like the US is a hellscape and anybody who doesn't think so is a moron gave us Trump
aegis27
Depends on your definition of rigged. Clearly, it was heavily favored in HRC's favor.
TobySomething
1. The dnc does not have that much power. 2. I'm sure dws wanted Clinton but no actual evidence of improper action, let alone swaying 1/2
TobySomething
Millions of votes. People hear rigging and assume Bernie had no chance or it was fixed which is absurd and far from truth 2/2
ourari
Don't forget about Comey...
MemesNDreams16
Pretty sure that pervert Anthony Weiner is more to blame.
kinslayers0
So you blame the FBI for Hillary setting up an email server? You see, maybe next time don't run such a flawed candidate.
footfoe
http://imgur.com/Z5y6Xmm
alsoAzrael
No she didn't. People who voted for Trump are responsible for their actions. Stop fucking blaming us for your vote, republicans!
FilthyRedmond
Bernie would've won
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humptyblargh
Bernie probably would have won MI, but still lost WI and PA, and therefore the EC. Nat'l popular vote means shit. It's 50 elections, not one
chiefs86
(3) And Sanders would have retained his sizable voterbase as well, which may have been enough to tip the scales (along with no scandals!).
humptyblargh
I agree with your basic premise, but I think you over-estimate Bernie's numbers among people who actually do register and vote. Also, 1/2
humptyblargh
Trump lost Repub voters who didn't like him or populism, & were more comfortable with establishment figure HRC. Those folks might've come 2/
chiefs86
Remember, many disenfranchised Bernie fans (independents, mostly) abstained or crossed the aisle. Do you think many of the loyal Democrat..
chiefs86
(2) following would have done the same had Hillary not been the nominee? All of Hillary's voterbase would have swung for Sanders.
hardytardigrade
No single factor gave us this outcome. But if you are looking for people to blame in the US, James Comey is one.
sixpickupstix
i await your opinion piece on the topic
kinslayers0
Blame comey for setting up an email server im Hillary's house, yeah let's go with that guys they won't notice.
hardytardigrade
You aren't getting that the email situation itself wasn't really a big deal, relatively speaking.
Mimsey
Yeah, how dare he bring up the illegal shit Hillary knowingly did or had her staff do when she was running for our highest office.
hardytardigrade
There's a lot more to it than that. And even he said what she did wasn't something that would result in charges.
mmurrbles
For investigating crimes? I guess you don't find sending minors explicit photos disturbing? Because that's how they found the 2nd set
corivscori
There was no 2nd set. The emails on that laptop were duplicates of what they already had. Comey made a political move and it's shameful.
TiredOfTheBS
It was his announcement. Why would he announce the email investigation but not the Russian investigation into trumps ties?
mmurrbles
The Russian instigation where they would out they podesta emailed them with his user name and password?
TiredOfTheBS
No the investigation into ties between Russian operatives and Trump associates.
mmurrbles
Are you talking about the article from the Washington post that referenced the anti-semities?
ThreeDimesDown
Honestly, I'd rather have her playing global hardball against Putin than Putin's golden lapdog, the man you elected president.
Mimsey
Really? Because Putin's acting the way he is in part because Obama decided to "play hardball" despite Russia already being in a corner.
Mimsey
The civil war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia over the US over-sanctioning Russia and destroying its economy.
RWM90
Mimsey
Like you do realize people all over the world through Clinton would spark a war with Russia with her overzealous sanctions, right?
DadApproved
Granny Nixon would have been a nut buster.
snowden44
Nixon was actually a real pro with his foreign policy.
jonsnowkilledolly
Not just Trump. Hillary was so bad it caused the Dems to lose the Senate seats as well (and don't forget 2-3 judicial seats).
WonderWaage
Damn yeah. If only Hillary had a VP that wants to murder gay people. Shame
DavidbBaker
Please make it 1-2 Judicial seats.
bigkingdingaling
2 scotus, so far
MemeMyselfnI
And lost all but 7 state legislatures. 1000s of state level seats. Must have been Putin who hacked DWS n Donna Brazil, huh?
chiefs86
Donna Brazile is a literal sack of garbage stuffed into a human shell.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
eggboy
I don't think that means what you think it means
d0o0o0d
Senators are elected by the entire state. It's not possible to gerrymander the Senate.
TheyCallMeMrFahrenheit
Buuuut really the Senate is a nonproportionate body anyways. Because there is no adjustment for the population of a state.
merdock379
Hillary was up double digits 10 days out until the FBI got involved again. And she got +3M votes.
Zwischenzug
No, I think @OP is right. Debbie and the DNC were shown to be the biggest scheisters in the game this year. The brand became toxic quickly
WhyAreYouASmugBellend
But weren't they under HRC direction? They at least colluded together. Shultz was even hired by HRC after leaving the DNC.
shmehh36
That's what he said. You said "no" then agreed with him.
Zwischenzug
No, I don't agree with @jonsnowkilledolly 's assessment that HRC's unpopularity lost dem seats. It was direct correlation from the
Zwischenzug
dissolutionment following the release that the DNC was rigged in Hillary's favor. The RNC is just as crooked, but this leaked and leaked big
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Zwischenzug
If you don't think the DNC and the RNC have their own agenda and can change their minds to suit a narrative, you are the duped one my friend
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Zwischenzug
In the case of this particular discussion, the DNC and DWS are at the forefront. There's nothing illegal about what they did. The DNC and
Dutch7
they didnt make it up. all Russia did was a lame phishing scam on podesta. only thing proven
Thisisausernameonimgur
It was never even proven that the basic phishing scam was from Russia, iirc
Dutch7
i stand corrected
jonsnowkilledolly
Oh I am not disputing it -- I am just adding on to it. The DNC debacle caused them to lose in all 3 branches.
TheHoleStretcher3000
WRONG, IT'S THE RUSSIANS FAULT. Source CIA, FBI MIB,
iAmLordBeer
Well, I mean, they did... all the DNC emails showed was that Donna Brazil's gave HRC a heads up about a question. It's not like watergste
GadenKerensky
This man is making a joke, please calm down.
InfiniteBreadStickss
So is dookie.
LocalFalafel
Typing in full capitals makes nobody care about what you have to say.
MyStrippernameisBubbles
I don't think people got the joke...
dangerousDoc
Well that is because she got the position after Hillary bribed the previous chairman with a vice presideny
educationalballs
Hillary so terrible she beat Bernie Sanders by 4 million votes without ever moving on him and him spending $200M on his campaign. Rough.
chiefs86
(2) out of them with zero problems. And she managed to suck so badly that she was actually challenged.
chiefs86
You're not looking at this correctly. The woman spent 8 full years ENSURING that she would not be challenged in the primaries, and come...
d0o0o0d
Way more than that. There are around 100 vacant judgeships at the moment.
MyRegularAcctIsntAnonymousEnough
she didn't act alone
wheresthetoaster
Russia helped
GeneralMinuteman
First rule of management: everything is your fault. Have Pixar films not taught us anything?
kapp70
You're correct, but she was in a unique position to protect my democratic party from them oligarchs, yet she willfully aided and abetted the
DrClaww
Maybe not, but she was immediately hired by Hillary afterwards
DetectiveGaff
You don't just cut off extremely loyal and incredibly effective fundraisers. Her hiring was a token signal at best.
chiefs86
You do when they become a PR nightmare. It was a move that showed that she was blind or indifferent to public opinion.
DetectiveGaff
Not disagreeing.
chiefs86
To this day I honestly don't know if it was blindness or indifference, nor do I really know which would be worse.
socalwarrior
Da real MVP.
Glumerlink
Trump would have won regardless, I think Bill Maher said it best when he said "the media wants this to be a close race and they'll do (1)
Glumerlink
anything to keep it one." they focused on every minor thing and blew it up beyond measure, Trump was saying awful terrible things but (2)
Glumerlink
Hillary was getting skull fucked over comparably minor things. The media wouldn't have let anyone win in a landslide.(3/3)
Comet260
Too much many and too many ratings at stake.
rawdog
Can't really argue against that.
TobySomething
You can, it's wrong. The only emails that actually showed anything were mild bias not acted on after the primary was mathematically over.
TobySomething
People freaking out over DNC conspiracy BS (among other things) gave us Trump more than any of DWS's actions.
kinslayers0
Democrats say: emails show nothing, lose the election ZOMG THE RUSSIANS SUPER IMPORTANT INFO
TobySomething
Emails show relatively little, but the spin and dumb conspiracies (pizzagate, etc) clearly hurt them. super important info is a strawman
IronicUsername
Of course you can; the argument is fucking stupid. Trump wasn't the only Republican nominee and the DNC attempting to tip the scales [1]
IronicUsername
in favor of the democratic candidate (note that Bernie is an independent who was running as a Democrat), while a valid concern, is not [2]
IronicUsername
a valid reason to vote for Trump. Thank the idiots who voted for him. [3]
ScrooblyDoobles
Can we stop blaming the rust belt buying Trumps bullshit on democrats already? Can't you just own your decision?
TheStaffmaster
As a Sanders supporter I get to be pissed off, but also bemused that I can tell all those Doe eyed Hillary supporters "I TOLD YOU SO!"
Odb718
I dont think a lot of people "bought it". Hillary is just THAT bad. I mean, ffs, she lost to Trump
mstalltree
DNC got what it deserved. We all will collectively suffer but I hope DNC learned a valuable lesson from all this.
TheDogEnd
haha, no I don't think they did
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Comet260
Does she even WANT to run?
Tankdoggy
No, they are thinking Hillary in 2020, that's how dumb they are, or Cory Booker who is owned by corporate interests as well.
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Tankdoggy
That won't stop them from voting for each one of his super rich cabinet posts.
Tankdoggy
Trump is the new Teabagger , they will vote even more crazy people in if ANY GoP politicians go against the new "dear leader"
Tiskel
What lesson? That many people will vote against their own best interests, so we should pander to them?
mstalltree
That if DNC tries to interfere with a democratic process, nobody will vote for a shitty candidate nominated by DNC
whyteraven74
That isolating yourselves and relying on focus groups to tell you what the issues are, doesn't work.
Tiskel
3: existed in the first place (a time when America was 'great'), and isolationism and extreme nationalism isn't going to help the economy.
Tiskel
2: and to pander to the mining communities saying we'll bring back their jobs is lying. People voted to bring 'back' things that never...
Tiskel
I still don't understand what the Democrats should have done differently. To claim factory jobs are coming back is a lie. Coal is bad ...