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Bwahahahahaaaa... Dumbass!
Dena Churchill surrendered her licence in January and entered into a settlement agreement with the college in which she admits the charge of being "professionally incompetent as a result of incompetence arising out of mental incapacity."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/halifax-chiropractor-surrenders-licence-admits-to-professional-incompetence/ar-BBUgnxJ?li=AAggNb9
FP Edit: I just want to state for the record that I support Chiropractors and in Canada, at least, they are registered/regulated medical professionals. It sounds like this definitely is not the case everywhere from the general comments. I have been to both kinds of Chiropractors, the amazing and the incompetent but I can say the same for MDs. Don’t paint all with the same brush. Unless they are anti-vaxxers... then paint away.
ransac
On behalf of most Canadians ......... sorry
DamascusFire
She admits she was wrong? I think it's great to see her admit it openly
pacopetitgateau
Why calling her a dumbass? If anything, she's a humble one, which should be praised right now
Camelspotting
Possibly because of the mental incapacity.
Arnoxthe1
Why is this even being publicized at all? So she can get harassed on top of getting fired?
Pencildispencer
reallyyouguys
xtremesandwich
As a chiropractor, myself....good. All those morons need to lose their license.
firefightingblackguy
Chiro too and I feel the same way. Gotta love that a few idiots make the rest of look like shit..
cringysocialinept
Just want to voice my support for you guys. This post was about the anti-Vax not your profession.
cringysocialinept
Some of your colleagues have done great work for me, others left me unimpressed. Like all professions there are some real good and some bad.
IdidNotKnowTHat
These are the best comments in a long time
sp4nk0r
I think the real news here is that MSN still exists...
thecanadianwhoatethemoose
Didn't know there were licenses for being a charlatan to begin with.
seenunseen
i disagree with her views..but does that make her incapable of cracking my back?
Snickt
But, she's a chiropractor.
throttletom
But would you smash?
aMiu
So, in Canada even the fake doctors want nothing to do with anti-vaxxers
cody6268
One of our area chiropractors is also an anti-vaccine nut. So, guess that's a thing with a lot of them.
nabacular
Do people still think chiropractors are doctors?
Mexrose75
Yes. I heard people call them doc.
derwulf
Chiro corrected a hip alignment issue on me that fixed a tendon issue in my knee without surgery. It's not entirely BS.
ap0th
unfortunately yes
ajpimpsalll
Some chick at a party decided to mouth off about medicine to me saying she's a doctor. I found out she was a chiro and laughed my ass off.
Zappit
Wow, the title of that charge. Might as well just have said “fucking mental reject idiot.” That’s basically the translation.
TurkeyHole56
Based on these comments. I am amazed on how little is known about chiropractic. Quack is thrown around a lot without much justification.
SuperFuzzyNipples
It's not surprising really. anti-vaxers and chiropractors both operate on quackery.
Mynameisaninnuendo
You must never have tweaked your back out of alignment before.
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
As much as I dislike anti-vaxxers, what does this have to do with her being an anti-vaxxer?
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SamaelTheVenomOfGod
Are you kidding? This is the internet. We don't do that here.
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SamaelTheVenomOfGod
And that would be a more cutting insult if your opinion mattered.
stardy
basically: lady talks about links between autism and vax. talking about vax where she comes is very taboo, so bye
DeathReaper7291
Thats like a Dr talking about how old some dino bones they found were and being fired because they said they are 10 years old...
stardy
yeah i spose so
SchubaStheve
Went to her once a few years ago for chiropractic work, never went back.after the first time
Cl6wn
What happened?
LaforgeMRA
Any particular reason?
newsguycraigevans
So she's a Trump supporter
sopracciglia
Aren’t chiropractors no medical doctors anyways ? Why would this be a surprise
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
All fun to mock her, yes, but let's at least be thankful some people are able to realize their fuckery and admit to it.
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cringysocialinept
I’m curious who the downvoters are and what they think of this. Anyone who downvotes this please respond and explain why.
ManicMDMechanic
Pro-plague folk and those who think chiropractors should be taken seriously.
sp4nk0r
You're asking people that, by definition, are unreasonable, to reason?
cringysocialinept
Haha, umm... yes?
Arnoxthe1
Didn't downvote because I hate downvotes, but this publicity is wrong. She got fired. What more do you guys want?
cringysocialinept
I can respect that. I kinda feel that she opened the door to this publicity when she established an online presence advocating anti-Val thou
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Kendren
Admitting her mistake? Check her Twitter, she's still posting anti-vaccination things. She just surrendered her license to make more money.
thefatlonelyjew
I downvoted because it sounds like you're trying to draw a connection between two unrelated things
Nighter3D
If the things are Anti-vax and the revoke it is pretty much linked. Chiros are forbidden to claim expertise on vax, but she went anyway.
DicksTakeDickpicsWithSelfieSticks
Yet I doubt the revoke and this post would happen if she made pro-vax claims, even though that would equally satisfy the criterion.
cringysocialinept
Did you read the news article? The College of Chiropractors drew the link, not me. So they are obviously 2 very connected things.
DicksTakeDickpicsWithSelfieSticks
Does "comment on vaccines in any capacity" not mean both pro and anti vax?
cringysocialinept
Yes, it does. But people only tend to get reprimanded when they give bad advice outside their area of expertise.
Mutamn
Did she find out she's vaccinated and mow she thinks she's got the autism?
theleafssuck
The autism lol.
DicksTakeDickpicsWithSelfieSticks
Not just an autism. THE autism. That's serious.
GrandAdmlStrife
*meow
PutThePRNDLinD
So...mental incapacity...What's the essential oil for that?
yabadabascrewya
Measles juice
Retrikaethan
brick. apply directly to the forehead.
rookie23
Suurmstrang, I think I spelled it right, n.sure
krissypoojackets
Lavender
anumberspace
Books
TheSmoothSayer
Drinking the essential oil people call “Bleach” in large doses seems to do the trick
tomsayz
Snake oil
eastbayrae
Caster oil.
GreenArrowGivingOutGreenArrows
Not that I believe essential oils should be used for most things, I do use them to get a nice smell around my house and sometimes headaches
retepronnoco
To cause it or cure it?
meztizo2000
Dickonface oil is effective for people like this
cannonesshannah
Formaldehyde.
AnastasiaBeaverhousen88
Antifreeze
WARHAMMER405
50/50 or Concentrate?
AlmightyDiapahbetusGarlicGerbil
Caster seed oil >:]
ClockworkKoala
Oh no..
blackoutdigital
CBD according to Facebook
Thisoldmanheplaysbass
it’s awesome stuff, but not the wonder drug people are touring. It has negative side effects when taken in large quantities too.
WARHAMMER405
Castrol GTX, AMSOIL, Mystik JT8, or Shell Rotella.
guysmileyoo1
JIZZ!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!
GodsFoot
Headlight fluid
nonsequitur
Motor oil
photog
10w30, even in winter.
IReallyWonder
Used, two years or 50.00 miles beyond a ' due for service ' notification.
MisterLemons
50,000 mile 75w 140 differential fluid.
Somethingwittythiswaycomes
Bleach.,
JuanaRIP
Chloroform and breath deep
PutThePRNDLinD
Sounds like a pick-up line..."Does this smell like chloroform to you?" -- 60% of the time it works all the time...
GreenFox
"msn.com"? MSN still exists?
shadowforcey
Chiropractors dont exactly know much about medicine / vaccines anyway, and have virtually nothing to do with them.
wasitsomethingisaid
They have LITERALLY nothing to do with vaccines.
ajpimpsalll
The only thing they do "know" about is a fake belief system that's been debunked countless times. It's acupuncture but on a spine.
derwulf
Chiro corrected a hip alignment issue on me that fixed a tendon issue in my knee without surgery. It's not entirely BS.
ajpimpsalll
and your doctor recommended you go to a chiro?
derwulf
Dr wanted to cut my femur in half and rotate in 15 degrees, when the issue was due to my hips being offset some angle. I opted for fuck 1/2
derwulf
it - after 5 doctors the best answer I'd gotten was crippling myself, might as well try. Over a decade later issue is mostly gone. 2/2
Nighter3D
They are even forbidden to speak about this matter and are to leave it to those who are specialized in it. Hence the revoke.
Dafirnz
Chiropractors are a small step removed from complete quacks. The sooner people accept it, the better.
GreekTrojan
There are legit chiropractors, to the extent you think that field works. The problem is that its the easiest title to get for quacks.
RandallKavanaugh
Check your local Olympic team. You'll kind a multidisciplinary support group always including a Sport Chiro
Mewmus
pinched nerves DO have an effect on your body
DrJohnDorianMD
Just not in the way that “subluxed vertebrae” do
MastahPetah
They're great when they know their place. Problem is a lot of them think they're trained way beyond their scope of practice.
IKeepMyWeedInAMasonJar
Hey man idk about your chiropractor but when I go I get all cracked up and it seriously helps. Fucked up my neck many years ago and the 1/2
IKeepMyWeedInAMasonJar
Chiropractor did his thing and after a couple weeks I was good as new
NickRivieraMD
for how long?
FlatPlutoSociety
Basically, if your chiropractor says they can treat anything other than back and neck pain (and sometimes headaches), they're a quack.
derwulf
Chiro corrected a hip alignment issue on me that fixed a tendon issue in my knee without surgery. It's not entirely BS.
DirkNurple
Agreed! Darwin police! But mine really helped with muscle problems in the shoulder girdle. It’s related, though.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
I dunno, chiropractor has done things that have helped, a physical therapist has done things that had no effect, and some got it right. I've
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
also met doctors that were utterly clueless and some that were great. I have a natural skepticism but keep an open mind
TaiPan87
I have rock that keeps tigers away. Wanna buy it?
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Why would I want to keep tigers away? You keep your witch rock to yourself
samsoniteson2000
Some
holymanbatbatman
all.
DrJohnDorianMD
Few.
ThePotatoBandit
They're physical therapist that dont really know what they're doing or why it works. Just goto a physical therapist.
DirkNurple
Not at all. Can’t say chiros are geniuses but PT’s don’t know either. Like, at all. I’ve seen some idiots.
theleafssuck
Disagree.
DrakeRamorayMD
They learn about magnetic therapy and chakras in school. They are quacks. Go to a medical doctor for real advice.
ninjamuhnkey
I’m in chiropractic school right now. No we don’t.
ElectricBoopaloo
That's just completely incorrect. No legitimate chiropractic program will teach nonsense like that
KawaiiPotatoGirl
My medical doctor told me to go to a chiropractor.
DrakeRamorayMD
50% of doctors graduate in the bottom of their class.
DrakeRamorayMD
You need a new doctor
Knilore
None of the ones I've known. We have one at our military clinic and we don't really approve of other people having nonsense ideas.
theleafssuck
Many of them spout bullshit, yes, but not all.
sumnsumn
When I walk out of the chiro after thinking I just had mild neck pain and I realise how bad I actually was
shadowforcey
Yup, they call themselves doctors but they arnt GPs. Their field originates from the realm of alternative medicine.
ElectricBoopaloo
Of course they aren't GPs. In the same way that surgeons aren't GPs. And the field does not originate from alternative medicine. You have1/?
ElectricBoopaloo
To study it to practice, same as any other legitimate medical profession.2/2
elethomel
Chiropractic's early philosophy was rooted in vitalism, naturalism, magnetism, and spiritualism
shadowforcey
Four years of medical school leading to a Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) degree, and three to eight years of surgical residency at a hospital.
shadowforcey
Requirements to be a surgeon according to google, meaning you need an M.D degree.
ElectricBoopaloo
My point is that chiropractors are also doctors that are required to study for however many years
shadowforcey
Similar to homeopathy, acupuncture etc
qweds
NOT similar. Chiro is an actual science. Don’t discount it as something like those. It works
shadowforcey
There is a reason its an alternative medicine, because if it was proven to work it would be called medicine.
qweds
I’m pretty sure it’s called chiropractic medicine? At least in Canada it is
DirkNurple
Do you know what it takes to be an acupuncturist? It doesn’t cure cancer but sure ass hell helps with pain.
MajorNikon
It’s also true that witch doctors are successful to a certain degree.
shadowforcey
Yup, all forms of alternative medicine
TaiPan87
Its been studied many times. In peer-reviewed tests it has only shown marginal benefits and NOT because of the pin placement. It works +1
TaiPan87
Even when you jam pins in randomly. The mind is a powerful placebo.
ReaperOfNotes
I go in with back and neck pain.. comes out able to move and alot less pain all with no use of drugs.. shrugs they work tho
Dafirnz
And just how often do you have to go back. Have they done anything to actually improve your problem?
tsjamiefrench18
Placebo
Skevoid
They have a couple manipulation tricks for pain... and those tricks come with a small risk of serious damage.
popebadass
Would be better if you went to a medically trained physical therapist. They actually fix you.
DirkNurple
Except for the times they haven’t. I’ve had A chiro who was at the cutting edge of PT, & a PT neighbor who told me her profession was shit.
qweds
Chiros are actually trained, they’re doctors in Canada and I have friends in the program. They don’t know as much as MDs but they know a lot
qweds
Where as physios are a masters program, less practice and study.
ajpimpsalll
PTs practice and study in actual studied practice. Chiros are loons who treat cracking your spine as a panacea.
Gryffinsmore
They are not trained in any medical school setting. They get their doctorates the same way philosophy majors do. They are allowed the title.
qweds
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic_in_Canada yes it’s Wikipedia
Gryffinsmore
And no they aren’t medical doctors in Canada. They are just allowed to use the title of Dr. to mislead people.
ElectricBoopaloo
Chiropractors get a bad rep cause of quacks claiming to be chiropractors(people like this). Real chiropractors have a lot of knowledge, 1/2
ElectricBoopaloo
And the field is backed by legitimate medical science. Just different from someone like a surgeon. If you dont believe me do some research.
SalmySwims
Yeah, because someone's cirrhosis is caused by a nerve being pinched and blocking life force from getting to the liver, not alcoholism
DrJohnDorianMD
Their research is backed by “science.” Not medical science. There’s a difference.
TaiPan87
Care to point me to a SINGLE peer reviewed study supporting "vertebral subluxation" is anything except nonsense?
RedIronCrown
That's pretty narrow, restricting it to a single type of treatment. Chiro in general has a lot of peer reviewed RCT evidence behind it. /1
RedIronCrown
/2 Aggregate paper from UK: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20184717
ElectricBoopaloo
I shouldn't have to do your research for you, but why not
TaiPan87
I'm waiting. And I brought a book, because I know it may take you years to do the first clinical trial that shows conclusive results.