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ryanvandam69
I dont know what all the ranks above corporal are (ignorant Brit)
Feralkyn
"Everyone let's him know" ffs OP you had one job
DoughnutJimmy
The rank insignia may differ, but it's the same in armies all over the world.
CCGert
Dad retired as army cw3 and said worst thing army did to warrant officer core was make them pilots
Gak44
I was in the motor pool. Can definitely confirm warrant officer comments, especially the "watch this" followed by blowing shit up
Darkbounty91
Its not Navy Ranks but I can confirm from my time served that this is most certainly accurate.
bloatedplutocrat
Can confirm, made it up along the way.
janerowdy
There was one guy in my company whose name I knew, but I'd never seen. He was a warrant, if he even existed.
ThymeisRipe
P00
GwenJohnsonBrown
I'm loving the tutorial on Warrant Officers...
turdferguson74
The best rank in the military. Chosen due to technical prowess or "warrant" Best job I ever had man
The Air Force phased the rank out just before I went in...I did find this amusing, tho, being an Army brat.
Lixalotapuss
Hahha so fuckin true. E-4 Mafia bish
CatBlaster5000
As an E-5, learn to hide better. Sick of covering for you fucks.
funforabitbutnowthatsdone
As an corporal I was the master of disappearing. I would make sure my team was nowhere to be seen. Out of sight...Out of mind.
This is the true goal of low rank NCO's. WE can stay out of trouble, but we can't keep our team from being stupid. So we just hide them.
That's the truth. Helps to have a cool Sgt. I'd give him a heads-up about where I'd have the guys, and to yell if he needed anything.
That's pretty much how it works. Formation, and then hide in the office until somebody needs you.
mustachefleas
Being in aviation I'm around so any warranty officers. And not a single one of them know what's going on or care haha
tytrim89
Can confirm spent 6 years in a CAB
TexxasTerror
I spent time in a CAB, had a WO with last name Cool. I hated that shit, called him by his first name, he hated that shit
I was deployed and called a cw3 sir he said "dude forget that call me chaz"
strumfooligan
Must've been a huge fare......I'll see myself out.
TheBoozeHound
This message goes out to all my brothers and sisters in arms, you're worth life. Combat is hell. Life gets better.
sakkehattu
As a 2nd LT, I whole agree with this post. Now if I would just find those damn grid squares :/
KnifeKnut
This is good except it does not say what the name of the ranks are.
humptyblargh
Enlisted: 1st row- Private, Private First Class, Specialist. 2nd row- Corporal, Sergeant, Staff Sergeant. 3rd- Sergeant First Class, 1/2
Sergeant Major, First Sergeant, Command Sergeant Major, CSM of the Army. There's only one at a time of that last one. 2/2
ProCheeseburger
our Major went on leave for a month.. no one noticed. Also, I've yet to meet a Warrant that could actually help.
badgrammarfuhdaze
I know less now than when I started
thisisyourcat
Then you must have been in the Army.
Gravity022
None of this is false. None of it.
BlackJet
So if I 360 no scope a bunch of noobs, will they make me a general?
ImJustASalad
Yeah, well I'm 10th prestige.
ThoughtfulSatan
I have only seen a CWO5 once and he was a Gunner, I wish I took a picture. That guy looked ancient.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Well... he probably was ancient. Like 45 or 46. I remember the COB on my boat when I was 25. He was probably 45. Looked 85.
Yeah the dude enlisted in like 1986 or some shit. He has been in longer than I have been alive.
Well, that just made me sad.
How so? Cause I am younger than that?
Ouch. Raised my hand in 92. YOU GODDAMN HEATHENS GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
Lol I was born in the beginning of '94 I enlisted back on 2013.
I retired in '12. Good on you for getting into it though. Best adventure of my life and set me up well for the real world
Well... he probably was ancient. Like 45 or 46.
Unicornzebraunderwear
I have 4 CW5s in my unit, shit's fucking rad, my WOCS letters are gonna be gold dude.
Holy shit dude. Do you call them the Jedi Order?
I usually give them jokingly grandiose titles like, your chieftanships or your chieflinesses.
Badass. But in the Marines, a Gunner is the most rare Rank/MOS. There are less than 20 of them total.
DVSBSTrD
@OP Relevant
TheSecondPiewackit
The switch from 4 to 18 was incredibly easy for me.
Wuhaa
Any reason why there's two old men?
evil66gurl
One's a warrant, the other a colonel.
TehSlendy
So that's how call of duty works
pjjanas
Can anyone explain to me how people get promoted in the army? Like how do you get a higher rank?
IAmLookingForSomeoneToShareInAnAdventure
A mixture of time served plus going to grading boards where you are compared to others and promoted if you're amongst the best
PT.. if you are good at PT you will get pushed forward.. If you are good at your job you will be pushed back. Disagree all you want.
Depends on your MOS.
You will get your leadership promoted if you are good at your job unless you were one of my kids. If you wanted it, I made it fucking happen
My info is 30 years out of date, but back then the first four were mostly automatic based on time served and time in grade. If you were a 1/
Cool thanks!
fuckup or made an enemy those promotions could be delayed or denied entirely. Achievers could get them early. At Specialist E4, you had 2/
to go before a promotion board to prove your fitness to be a Sergeant E5, and you had to accumulate promotion points through your board 3/
score, awards, educational attainments. There was also a school called PLDC, later WLDC you had to attend. 4/
It's currently called BLC, and promotion points are separate from your board score, but otherwise, all correct.
ArcTrooperFives
Sexual harassment power point brief is about to start where's chief? *Looks out window to see Chief lawnmower jousting*
Ummm, the proper term is "performing safety checks under extreme use conditions" thank you. It's in the fucking dash 10
Ah yes I forgot
bourbonandbaddecisions
CSMs really do hate you. And stay off the fvcking grass.
Not as much as they hate themselves. That's why E9s usually only last for a year into retirement before they shoot themselves
Mugfan
Fun fact: This rank system was invented by the Germans. You're welcome.
Pikachoochoo
Wrong. The US military first adapted it from the 4th Call of duty game. A little behind the rest of the world which switched after the 2nd.
SerialChillinSpree
Or Romans. But, if you are referrring to this particular ranking, specifically, then you are prob right.
dietderpsy
Also the US lost every engagement with the Germans when they had equal sized forces in WW2.
Sprixxen
The US going in at that point was not well prepared. The German war machine was at its peak at that point. It's not a mystery.
You can read about the dismal preparedness of US forces in countless historical accounts. It really makes you certain that FDR made the ->
right choice w/ Churchill in delaying a cross-channel invasion. It would've been slaughter.
yak3ftw
That's how it usually goes when you're on the offensive.
Elkarlo77
Battle of Kasserine Pass, initial stage of Battle of the Bulge. Several other Counter offensives which got stuck in the american manpower.
PedestrianElectrobastard
I have no idea what any of this means.
CreamAndShit
Army ranks, in this case US army. The 1st set is the enlisted ranks, 2nd is the commissioned ranks, the officers.
dongfanglong2012
it's very accurate to
carp8dm
Can enlisted soldier ever jump up into officer ranks?
Yeah, young ones with leadership potential can be sent to a mil academy to commission as if they joined as officers. Older soldiers who(1)
tankdestroyer642
Not sure about US Army, but in the British Army you can if you are deemed "suitable" and can go from Staff Sargeant to Captain in one move
US Army is either OCS after finishing a bachelor's, Green to Gold after a hitch or ROTC. Or WOCS if you are cool enough
Trogdoooooooor
Yeah, they're called mustang officers. First they need to get a bachelors degree, then they go to officer candidacy school (OCS)
asporium
I had an OIC who was a former E-6 go through Ranger school to become officer despite having no college.
No you didn't.
MidlandRedux
Happens in peacetime, if they can manage the educational requirements. In a big war, show you've got brains and can lead . . .
. . . And you can make it. In either case, you have to be able to handle the paperwork to run a battle or keep a platoon . . .
. . . Organized and supplied. That's why the schooling is needed. Audie Murphy qualified with a 5th grade ed and hoped to go to West Point.
Climb up the ranks can Late Entry commission as captains, but they do different jobs usually. This applies to British army.(2)
DeadOP
Yes, it's 09S , if you got college education, you can go straight from basic to OCS (officer candidate school) and become an officer
dirtehscandi
Midshipman/Cadet, you're not enlisted, you're not an officer, nobody knows where you belong, everyone shits on you
SFCyclone
You're not anything. A dot is not a rank!
TheBinky
As they should
flynnman504
Oh there you are cadet. Last time I saw you, you were pretending to be a Drill Sergeant while mine took the day off. It didn't go well.
Corgibuttnubs
That's what they're for. If they can survive then they are ready for the real fun.
TheLordoftheRingsEpisodeIVPotterStrikesBack
"Why is there a number by your name?" -every enlisted person to ever see a cadet
They see the 1/C and all go
HereticsAllOfYou
To be fair, that is actually the job of midshipmen, not just the result of circumstance. They're like interns.
Yeah I agree, I wasn't complaining about it, lol you gotta earn those bars
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! HA HA HA! Wait till you are an O-1. You'll only begin to realize the privledge and freedom you had as a Middie.
m053486
Nobody really knowing what I was meant I got to skip most formations and get away with a lot during fleet training. Still did sweepers tho
cogs
Navy Middies are an actual rank above all enlisted and below all officers. USMA/USAF cadets are as well (technically), but it's a bit muddy.
I'd salute back if they saluted but if they were confused id say don't worry about it lol
Right, I'd wear khakis sometimes for my summer cruise down at NAS Jax and some would salute me, others would freeze up in confusion
Cadet here, yup.
melotprieks
Silence!
As ex-USAF and retired USN, budding ring-knockers were on a par with my instant E-5's. Too much attitude adjustment needed.
ParaBellum96
As a 3rd Class Middie..... Yeah.
biggwhytey
They belong in school.
xchronical
Seriously though, was only an E4 when I got back from Iraq but some Cadet giving me orders made me go bananas.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Really? Huh. The midshipmen on our carrier always snapped to and hugged the bulkhead when anyone of any rank was walking by, and never made
2) a peep during muster. They must give different speeches to different branches. (Or maybe b/c we were working 100+ hr weeks at war, they
3) got told to stay tf out of our way. Or maybe they made a conscious effort to respect that fact - likely, they were good folks.)
Truth be told, I've learned more about leadership from enlisted men and women than officers at this point in my life
Why do you think people say "Don't call me sir, I work for a living!"?
My grandpas were an E-8 and an E-9 with the USAF. They both had stories of O-1's saying things to them like "So, my dad/sergeant/uncle/etc
2) said to ask your opinion on everything as long as I've got this butter bar on my shoulder." Can't argue with that.
What's an e4? Did it sink any battleships?
Cheomesh
Petty Officer.
OrthoLoess
E-4 is a DoD pay grade. In the US Army, either a specialist or a corporal. The term gets used because it can be compared across branches.
So is that a no on the battleship sinking?
Well, E-4 being a DoD thing, they also have them in the navy (the first petty officer rank). It's possible that an E-4 has been 1/2
boevis
I honestly have no bloody clue what Warrant Officers even are
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
All I know it's Matt Damon was one in Green Zone
BanCannon
Tactical Gandalf.
wasneverme
Joim the rest of the military.
You need to be an officer to pilot a helicopter. Some helicopters shouldn't have any sort of command. Thus, the warrant officer.
rutilus
You could say it isn't warranted.
Which may explain Army Warrants, but none of the others.
freiman
They are like special forces Jedi master ninja Vikings
My Habibi (ret w5) has a plaque that actually says he has jedi skills. I always thought it was an inside joke.
Nah they can literally move things without touching them
Makinganaccountnameisannoying
Skate gods.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
Neither do they. They just get paid to be it.
a55mu11e7
i seen a CW4 cuss out our S6 OIC at JRTC for telling me my radio network was shit. S6 gave us bad keys lol
UgaDawg718
root1657
College boy messed up and blamed highschool grad. Grandpa chewed college boys ass.
DutchyMcDutch
Now this is something I can understand;)
WorstShotEver
I have no clue what you just said there.....
prumdogmillionaire
S6 is usually a sub unit such as a platoon in charge of communications. OIC = officer in command
TeflonTrout
The guy responsible for making the radios talk to each other screwed the pooch during training in the joint readiness training center.
cw4= the tower s6 officer in charge is usually a major. major gave me bad shit and said that my stuff didn't work when it was his fault.
army sure loves their acronyms...
Rebar77
ikr
smh
DarkLight619
They are supposed to specialize in their field. The only ones you will see are in Intel and Aviation, the rest are ghosts.
couldnthave1nowwehave3
Army Band checking in. They're supposed to be the conductors for us.... if we can find them.
iLynux
There was a WO3 I think on my ship who was a quartermaster. He was always on the bridge.
abhorance
And theyre either gods in their field or complete fucking shit, there is no average chief. One extreme or the other
mmaatt8
Ghosts as in you won't ever see any of them.
socksx
Our mechanis co3 orders parts and stuff
BreenW
What about surgeons then? They start at second lieutneant
JHansi
Our maintenance warrants and targos come to work most days. I'm not saying they do much. But they're there.
apsck12
I've seen a Marine gunner in the wild before. Blew my mind because I had no idea what he was haha
Rocket350
Ahhh the true Marine Gunner. Very rare.... I thought I spotted one once - ended up be a damn unicorn.
feeltheice
I met a gunner once. Met 4& 5 star generals several times
dragonthc
So you've met Gens. Marshall, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Bradley before?
Ugh hands got fucked up when typing in a hurry sorry >>
Aathole
Ghosts in the sense that they are so badass that theyre spec op or sone such?
RaisinZetaJones
More ghosts in the sense that those rank insignia could easily be confused for renditions of gold bricks.
thelurkerimgurneedsnotthelurkerimgurdeserves
Ghosts as in they don't show up unless shit really hits the fan. They'll fix it and disappear without a trace.
kibu
Usually with a DoD tech in tow to explain to them why the grunts shouldn't touch the thing in the first place.
Got to love the military
TheMajesticBongacorn
They have one thing they know how to do really really good and the army pays them to do only that.
Porthos542
Really really well*
LazyTheAssCat
This is just a bad example, but follow me. So, you've got a raccoon somehow stuck in your boot. Don't ask, you do. But you can't get it 1/
Out, basically no body on your immediate vicinity can, it's a real problem. So, how do you get the 'coon out your boot? Get he guy who 2/
TheMysteriousBanana
The guy who WHAT?!?! My GOD man FINISH YOUR STORY!!!
Only ever gets raccoons outta boots. That's what he does. That's pretty much ALL he does. And he's damn good at getting them raccoons out./3
Chev8t8
They're specialists (not like the antiquated enlisted rank) and technical officers. They can also be combatants will very specialized roles.
StevenHackett
Specialised in their field, but depends on branch as to what they really do
Also sell outs in the Navy, you gotta make Chief first and some don't get past that, so for more pay and less work, submit for CWO
momemes
supposed to be subject matter experts and advisors, in comm and signal are good to go, but other mos, maybe MotorT, I don't know, maybe supp
MoonsEnd
They are high ranking enlisted that are specialized in their field so they get specially promoted to get the benefits of being a officer
Actually CW2 and up can hold command positions. And none of the officer BS if you aren't in command, none of the nco worries either
Carrickin
Basically, officers know a little bit of a lot of different fields. WOs know everything about one.
pineconeweiner
after being enlisted for a certain amount of time you can become a warrent officer where youre considered an officer
Was an enlisted man 8 years, they are the gods.....that consume massively large quantities of coffee.
AdamGarrison
FACT. A warrant officer without a coffee mug must have left it at the golf course.
True I can attest to this
SleeperSix
Almost all of our Apache pilots were warrant officers.
giantsteps92
I am applying to be a warrant officer soon. For us, it's our commander spot.
Cautiousbadger
http://terminallance.com/2016/08/26/terminal-lance-437-warranted/
ThrashPotatoes
Warrants are like unicorns. No one believes they actually exist, but if someone sees one, no one believes them either.
joemac65
My dad was a WO2. UK soldier,speciality building anything from roads to bridges or blowing things up.His nickname was blaster bates.
They're different in every branch. USAF doesn't have. In most cases, Warrant Officers are senior enlisted individuals who excel at their
3) officer's require a bachelor's degree. The WO program allows personnel an advancement opportunity, and offers greater amounts of
4) variety in command options than is offered to senior enlisted. e.g. flying a helo, commanding a boat, etc. --- Also, they're usually
2) duties and have a record of outstanding military performance. Enlisted rank advancement is affected by seniority, and commissioned
5) really funny dudes who are almost caricatures of service dedication who, when there is only busy work to be done, you will never see.
Nova225
Pretty much helo army pilots where a normal commander is unnecessary. Air Force doesn't have then either
Every company has a CO who is a CPT. As WO's, our job is less to lead and more to one fly/maintain aircraft and train other aviators.
LiterallyYourGrandpa
They are the guys who have skated the longest and hardest that they have mastered it and formed a brotherhood.
Talmorean
Begins as an E-4, hands in pocket during detail. Then like an RPG, you find a hidden level aka CW school. And you vanish from the world.
T2Tackleberry
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Or they're just pilots
TegisJacksonMcCarterIII
They don't skate, they glide
OldMsMetalisnowMrsmetal
Warrant officer---no college but ready to be an officer...... Lieutenant and up actually earned officersship at college
I retired as a CW3 and had a Bachelors and a Masters. Not all who wander are lost. I never wanted to be commissioned for a wealth of reasons
got out as e4...didn't know commissioning was that big of a pain.
Not a pain, I was an E7 before I went to WOCS. Saw a lot of commissioned types that were shitty people and I didn't want to be a part of it
I knew quite a few terrible ones too....all good officers were warranted. :x. thank you for serving
THIS. CW2 with a Bachelors. Never had any desire to deal with the bullshit associated with being an RLO.
I wanted to stay technical, as an E7 I still got to do my job. E8 board came, time to shit or get off the pot. WOCS was the perfect loophole
Still got to do SIGINT ninja stuff, still went outside the wire with the MFT, saw field grades cry because of how awesome my job was
ryanvandam69
I dont know what all the ranks above corporal are (ignorant Brit)
Feralkyn
"Everyone let's him know" ffs OP you had one job
DoughnutJimmy
The rank insignia may differ, but it's the same in armies all over the world.
CCGert
Dad retired as army cw3 and said worst thing army did to warrant officer core was make them pilots
Gak44
I was in the motor pool. Can definitely confirm warrant officer comments, especially the "watch this" followed by blowing shit up
Darkbounty91
Its not Navy Ranks but I can confirm from my time served that this is most certainly accurate.
bloatedplutocrat
Can confirm, made it up along the way.
janerowdy
There was one guy in my company whose name I knew, but I'd never seen. He was a warrant, if he even existed.
ThymeisRipe
P00
GwenJohnsonBrown
I'm loving the tutorial on Warrant Officers...
turdferguson74
The best rank in the military. Chosen due to technical prowess or "warrant" Best job I ever had man
GwenJohnsonBrown
The Air Force phased the rank out just before I went in...I did find this amusing, tho, being an Army brat.
Lixalotapuss
Hahha so fuckin true. E-4 Mafia bish
CatBlaster5000
As an E-5, learn to hide better. Sick of covering for you fucks.
funforabitbutnowthatsdone
As an corporal I was the master of disappearing. I would make sure my team was nowhere to be seen. Out of sight...Out of mind.
CatBlaster5000
This is the true goal of low rank NCO's. WE can stay out of trouble, but we can't keep our team from being stupid. So we just hide them.
funforabitbutnowthatsdone
That's the truth. Helps to have a cool Sgt. I'd give him a heads-up about where I'd have the guys, and to yell if he needed anything.
CatBlaster5000
That's pretty much how it works. Formation, and then hide in the office until somebody needs you.
mustachefleas
Being in aviation I'm around so any warranty officers. And not a single one of them know what's going on or care haha
tytrim89
Can confirm spent 6 years in a CAB
TexxasTerror
I spent time in a CAB, had a WO with last name Cool. I hated that shit, called him by his first name, he hated that shit
tytrim89
I was deployed and called a cw3 sir he said "dude forget that call me chaz"
strumfooligan
Must've been a huge fare......I'll see myself out.
TheBoozeHound
This message goes out to all my brothers and sisters in arms, you're worth life. Combat is hell. Life gets better.
sakkehattu
As a 2nd LT, I whole agree with this post. Now if I would just find those damn grid squares :/
KnifeKnut
This is good except it does not say what the name of the ranks are.
humptyblargh
Enlisted: 1st row- Private, Private First Class, Specialist. 2nd row- Corporal, Sergeant, Staff Sergeant. 3rd- Sergeant First Class, 1/2
humptyblargh
Sergeant Major, First Sergeant, Command Sergeant Major, CSM of the Army. There's only one at a time of that last one. 2/2
ProCheeseburger
our Major went on leave for a month.. no one noticed. Also, I've yet to meet a Warrant that could actually help.
badgrammarfuhdaze
I know less now than when I started
thisisyourcat
Then you must have been in the Army.
Gravity022
None of this is false. None of it.
BlackJet
So if I 360 no scope a bunch of noobs, will they make me a general?
ImJustASalad
Yeah, well I'm 10th prestige.
ThoughtfulSatan
I have only seen a CWO5 once and he was a Gunner, I wish I took a picture. That guy looked ancient.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Well... he probably was ancient. Like 45 or 46. I remember the COB on my boat when I was 25. He was probably 45. Looked 85.
ThoughtfulSatan
Yeah the dude enlisted in like 1986 or some shit. He has been in longer than I have been alive.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Well, that just made me sad.
ThoughtfulSatan
How so? Cause I am younger than that?
turdferguson74
Ouch. Raised my hand in 92. YOU GODDAMN HEATHENS GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
ThoughtfulSatan
Lol I was born in the beginning of '94 I enlisted back on 2013.
turdferguson74
I retired in '12. Good on you for getting into it though. Best adventure of my life and set me up well for the real world
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Well... he probably was ancient. Like 45 or 46.
Unicornzebraunderwear
I have 4 CW5s in my unit, shit's fucking rad, my WOCS letters are gonna be gold dude.
ThoughtfulSatan
Holy shit dude. Do you call them the Jedi Order?
Unicornzebraunderwear
I usually give them jokingly grandiose titles like, your chieftanships or your chieflinesses.
ThoughtfulSatan
Badass. But in the Marines, a Gunner is the most rare Rank/MOS. There are less than 20 of them total.
DVSBSTrD
@OP Relevant
TheSecondPiewackit
The switch from 4 to 18 was incredibly easy for me.
Wuhaa
Any reason why there's two old men?
evil66gurl
One's a warrant, the other a colonel.
TehSlendy
So that's how call of duty works
pjjanas
Can anyone explain to me how people get promoted in the army? Like how do you get a higher rank?
IAmLookingForSomeoneToShareInAnAdventure
A mixture of time served plus going to grading boards where you are compared to others and promoted if you're amongst the best
ProCheeseburger
PT.. if you are good at PT you will get pushed forward.. If you are good at your job you will be pushed back. Disagree all you want.
TheSecondPiewackit
Depends on your MOS.
turdferguson74
You will get your leadership promoted if you are good at your job unless you were one of my kids. If you wanted it, I made it fucking happen
humptyblargh
My info is 30 years out of date, but back then the first four were mostly automatic based on time served and time in grade. If you were a 1/
pjjanas
Cool thanks!
humptyblargh
fuckup or made an enemy those promotions could be delayed or denied entirely. Achievers could get them early. At Specialist E4, you had 2/
humptyblargh
to go before a promotion board to prove your fitness to be a Sergeant E5, and you had to accumulate promotion points through your board 3/
humptyblargh
score, awards, educational attainments. There was also a school called PLDC, later WLDC you had to attend. 4/
TheSecondPiewackit
It's currently called BLC, and promotion points are separate from your board score, but otherwise, all correct.
ArcTrooperFives
Sexual harassment power point brief is about to start where's chief? *Looks out window to see Chief lawnmower jousting*
turdferguson74
Ummm, the proper term is "performing safety checks under extreme use conditions" thank you. It's in the fucking dash 10
ArcTrooperFives
Ah yes I forgot
bourbonandbaddecisions
CSMs really do hate you. And stay off the fvcking grass.
turdferguson74
Not as much as they hate themselves. That's why E9s usually only last for a year into retirement before they shoot themselves
Mugfan
Fun fact: This rank system was invented by the Germans. You're welcome.
Pikachoochoo
Wrong. The US military first adapted it from the 4th Call of duty game. A little behind the rest of the world which switched after the 2nd.
SerialChillinSpree
Or Romans. But, if you are referrring to this particular ranking, specifically, then you are prob right.
dietderpsy
Also the US lost every engagement with the Germans when they had equal sized forces in WW2.
Sprixxen
The US going in at that point was not well prepared. The German war machine was at its peak at that point. It's not a mystery.
Sprixxen
You can read about the dismal preparedness of US forces in countless historical accounts. It really makes you certain that FDR made the ->
Sprixxen
right choice w/ Churchill in delaying a cross-channel invasion. It would've been slaughter.
yak3ftw
That's how it usually goes when you're on the offensive.
Elkarlo77
Battle of Kasserine Pass, initial stage of Battle of the Bulge. Several other Counter offensives which got stuck in the american manpower.
PedestrianElectrobastard
I have no idea what any of this means.
CreamAndShit
Army ranks, in this case US army. The 1st set is the enlisted ranks, 2nd is the commissioned ranks, the officers.
dongfanglong2012
it's very accurate to
carp8dm
Can enlisted soldier ever jump up into officer ranks?
IAmLookingForSomeoneToShareInAnAdventure
Yeah, young ones with leadership potential can be sent to a mil academy to commission as if they joined as officers. Older soldiers who(1)
tankdestroyer642
Not sure about US Army, but in the British Army you can if you are deemed "suitable" and can go from Staff Sargeant to Captain in one move
turdferguson74
US Army is either OCS after finishing a bachelor's, Green to Gold after a hitch or ROTC. Or WOCS if you are cool enough
Trogdoooooooor
Yeah, they're called mustang officers. First they need to get a bachelors degree, then they go to officer candidacy school (OCS)
asporium
I had an OIC who was a former E-6 go through Ranger school to become officer despite having no college.
turdferguson74
No you didn't.
MidlandRedux
Happens in peacetime, if they can manage the educational requirements. In a big war, show you've got brains and can lead . . .
MidlandRedux
. . . And you can make it. In either case, you have to be able to handle the paperwork to run a battle or keep a platoon . . .
MidlandRedux
. . . Organized and supplied. That's why the schooling is needed. Audie Murphy qualified with a 5th grade ed and hoped to go to West Point.
IAmLookingForSomeoneToShareInAnAdventure
Climb up the ranks can Late Entry commission as captains, but they do different jobs usually. This applies to British army.(2)
DeadOP
Yes, it's 09S , if you got college education, you can go straight from basic to OCS (officer candidate school) and become an officer
dirtehscandi
Midshipman/Cadet, you're not enlisted, you're not an officer, nobody knows where you belong, everyone shits on you
SFCyclone
You're not anything. A dot is not a rank!
TheBinky
As they should
flynnman504
Oh there you are cadet. Last time I saw you, you were pretending to be a Drill Sergeant while mine took the day off. It didn't go well.
Corgibuttnubs
That's what they're for. If they can survive then they are ready for the real fun.
TheLordoftheRingsEpisodeIVPotterStrikesBack
"Why is there a number by your name?" -every enlisted person to ever see a cadet
dirtehscandi
They see the 1/C and all go
HereticsAllOfYou
To be fair, that is actually the job of midshipmen, not just the result of circumstance. They're like interns.
dirtehscandi
Yeah I agree, I wasn't complaining about it, lol you gotta earn those bars
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! HA HA HA! Wait till you are an O-1. You'll only begin to realize the privledge and freedom you had as a Middie.
m053486
Nobody really knowing what I was meant I got to skip most formations and get away with a lot during fleet training. Still did sweepers tho
cogs
Navy Middies are an actual rank above all enlisted and below all officers. USMA/USAF cadets are as well (technically), but it's a bit muddy.
dirtehscandi
I'd salute back if they saluted but if they were confused id say don't worry about it lol
dirtehscandi
Right, I'd wear khakis sometimes for my summer cruise down at NAS Jax and some would salute me, others would freeze up in confusion
CreamAndShit
Cadet here, yup.
melotprieks
Silence!
cogs
As ex-USAF and retired USN, budding ring-knockers were on a par with my instant E-5's. Too much attitude adjustment needed.
ParaBellum96
As a 3rd Class Middie..... Yeah.
biggwhytey
They belong in school.
xchronical
Seriously though, was only an E4 when I got back from Iraq but some Cadet giving me orders made me go bananas.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Really? Huh. The midshipmen on our carrier always snapped to and hugged the bulkhead when anyone of any rank was walking by, and never made
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) a peep during muster. They must give different speeches to different branches. (Or maybe b/c we were working 100+ hr weeks at war, they
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
3) got told to stay tf out of our way. Or maybe they made a conscious effort to respect that fact - likely, they were good folks.)
dirtehscandi
Truth be told, I've learned more about leadership from enlisted men and women than officers at this point in my life
xchronical
Why do you think people say "Don't call me sir, I work for a living!"?
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
My grandpas were an E-8 and an E-9 with the USAF. They both had stories of O-1's saying things to them like "So, my dad/sergeant/uncle/etc
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) said to ask your opinion on everything as long as I've got this butter bar on my shoulder." Can't argue with that.
Wuhaa
What's an e4? Did it sink any battleships?
Cheomesh
Petty Officer.
OrthoLoess
E-4 is a DoD pay grade. In the US Army, either a specialist or a corporal. The term gets used because it can be compared across branches.
Wuhaa
So is that a no on the battleship sinking?
OrthoLoess
Well, E-4 being a DoD thing, they also have them in the navy (the first petty officer rank). It's possible that an E-4 has been 1/2
boevis
I honestly have no bloody clue what Warrant Officers even are
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
All I know it's Matt Damon was one in Green Zone
BanCannon
Tactical Gandalf.
wasneverme
Joim the rest of the military.
HereticsAllOfYou
You need to be an officer to pilot a helicopter. Some helicopters shouldn't have any sort of command. Thus, the warrant officer.
rutilus
You could say it isn't warranted.
cogs
Which may explain Army Warrants, but none of the others.
freiman
They are like special forces Jedi master ninja Vikings
evil66gurl
My Habibi (ret w5) has a plaque that actually says he has jedi skills. I always thought it was an inside joke.
freiman
Nah they can literally move things without touching them
Makinganaccountnameisannoying
Skate gods.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
Neither do they. They just get paid to be it.
a55mu11e7
i seen a CW4 cuss out our S6 OIC at JRTC for telling me my radio network was shit. S6 gave us bad keys lol
UgaDawg718
root1657
College boy messed up and blamed highschool grad. Grandpa chewed college boys ass.
DutchyMcDutch
Now this is something I can understand;)
WorstShotEver
I have no clue what you just said there.....
prumdogmillionaire
S6 is usually a sub unit such as a platoon in charge of communications. OIC = officer in command
TeflonTrout
The guy responsible for making the radios talk to each other screwed the pooch during training in the joint readiness training center.
a55mu11e7
cw4= the tower s6 officer in charge is usually a major. major gave me bad shit and said that my stuff didn't work when it was his fault.
a55mu11e7
army sure loves their acronyms...
Rebar77
ikr
a55mu11e7
smh
DarkLight619
They are supposed to specialize in their field. The only ones you will see are in Intel and Aviation, the rest are ghosts.
couldnthave1nowwehave3
Army Band checking in. They're supposed to be the conductors for us.... if we can find them.
iLynux
There was a WO3 I think on my ship who was a quartermaster. He was always on the bridge.
abhorance
And theyre either gods in their field or complete fucking shit, there is no average chief. One extreme or the other
mmaatt8
Ghosts as in you won't ever see any of them.
socksx
Our mechanis co3 orders parts and stuff
BreenW
What about surgeons then? They start at second lieutneant
couldnthave1nowwehave3
Army Band checking in. They're supposed to be the conductors for us.... if we can find them.
JHansi
Our maintenance warrants and targos come to work most days. I'm not saying they do much. But they're there.
apsck12
I've seen a Marine gunner in the wild before. Blew my mind because I had no idea what he was haha
Rocket350
Ahhh the true Marine Gunner. Very rare.... I thought I spotted one once - ended up be a damn unicorn.
feeltheice
I met a gunner once. Met 4& 5 star generals several times
dragonthc
So you've met Gens. Marshall, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Bradley before?
feeltheice
Ugh hands got fucked up when typing in a hurry sorry >>
Aathole
Ghosts in the sense that they are so badass that theyre spec op or sone such?
RaisinZetaJones
More ghosts in the sense that those rank insignia could easily be confused for renditions of gold bricks.
thelurkerimgurneedsnotthelurkerimgurdeserves
Ghosts as in they don't show up unless shit really hits the fan. They'll fix it and disappear without a trace.
kibu
Usually with a DoD tech in tow to explain to them why the grunts shouldn't touch the thing in the first place.
melotprieks
Got to love the military
TheMajesticBongacorn
They have one thing they know how to do really really good and the army pays them to do only that.
Porthos542
Really really well*
LazyTheAssCat
This is just a bad example, but follow me. So, you've got a raccoon somehow stuck in your boot. Don't ask, you do. But you can't get it 1/
LazyTheAssCat
Out, basically no body on your immediate vicinity can, it's a real problem. So, how do you get the 'coon out your boot? Get he guy who 2/
TheMysteriousBanana
The guy who WHAT?!?! My GOD man FINISH YOUR STORY!!!
LazyTheAssCat
Only ever gets raccoons outta boots. That's what he does. That's pretty much ALL he does. And he's damn good at getting them raccoons out./3
Chev8t8
They're specialists (not like the antiquated enlisted rank) and technical officers. They can also be combatants will very specialized roles.
StevenHackett
Specialised in their field, but depends on branch as to what they really do
StevenHackett
Also sell outs in the Navy, you gotta make Chief first and some don't get past that, so for more pay and less work, submit for CWO
momemes
supposed to be subject matter experts and advisors, in comm and signal are good to go, but other mos, maybe MotorT, I don't know, maybe supp
MoonsEnd
They are high ranking enlisted that are specialized in their field so they get specially promoted to get the benefits of being a officer
turdferguson74
Actually CW2 and up can hold command positions. And none of the officer BS if you aren't in command, none of the nco worries either
Carrickin
Basically, officers know a little bit of a lot of different fields. WOs know everything about one.
pineconeweiner
after being enlisted for a certain amount of time you can become a warrent officer where youre considered an officer
ArcTrooperFives
Was an enlisted man 8 years, they are the gods.....that consume massively large quantities of coffee.
AdamGarrison
FACT. A warrant officer without a coffee mug must have left it at the golf course.
ArcTrooperFives
True I can attest to this
SleeperSix
Almost all of our Apache pilots were warrant officers.
giantsteps92
I am applying to be a warrant officer soon. For us, it's our commander spot.
Cautiousbadger
http://terminallance.com/2016/08/26/terminal-lance-437-warranted/
ThrashPotatoes
Warrants are like unicorns. No one believes they actually exist, but if someone sees one, no one believes them either.
joemac65
My dad was a WO2. UK soldier,speciality building anything from roads to bridges or blowing things up.His nickname was blaster bates.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
They're different in every branch. USAF doesn't have. In most cases, Warrant Officers are senior enlisted individuals who excel at their
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
3) officer's require a bachelor's degree. The WO program allows personnel an advancement opportunity, and offers greater amounts of
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
4) variety in command options than is offered to senior enlisted. e.g. flying a helo, commanding a boat, etc. --- Also, they're usually
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) duties and have a record of outstanding military performance. Enlisted rank advancement is affected by seniority, and commissioned
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
5) really funny dudes who are almost caricatures of service dedication who, when there is only busy work to be done, you will never see.
Nova225
Pretty much helo army pilots where a normal commander is unnecessary. Air Force doesn't have then either
AdamGarrison
Every company has a CO who is a CPT. As WO's, our job is less to lead and more to one fly/maintain aircraft and train other aviators.
LiterallyYourGrandpa
They are the guys who have skated the longest and hardest that they have mastered it and formed a brotherhood.
Talmorean
Begins as an E-4, hands in pocket during detail. Then like an RPG, you find a hidden level aka CW school. And you vanish from the world.
T2Tackleberry
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mustachefleas
Or they're just pilots
TegisJacksonMcCarterIII
They don't skate, they glide
OldMsMetalisnowMrsmetal
Warrant officer---no college but ready to be an officer...... Lieutenant and up actually earned officersship at college
turdferguson74
I retired as a CW3 and had a Bachelors and a Masters. Not all who wander are lost. I never wanted to be commissioned for a wealth of reasons
OldMsMetalisnowMrsmetal
got out as e4...didn't know commissioning was that big of a pain.
turdferguson74
Not a pain, I was an E7 before I went to WOCS. Saw a lot of commissioned types that were shitty people and I didn't want to be a part of it
OldMsMetalisnowMrsmetal
I knew quite a few terrible ones too....all good officers were warranted. :x. thank you for serving
AdamGarrison
THIS. CW2 with a Bachelors. Never had any desire to deal with the bullshit associated with being an RLO.
turdferguson74
I wanted to stay technical, as an E7 I still got to do my job. E8 board came, time to shit or get off the pot. WOCS was the perfect loophole
turdferguson74
Still got to do SIGINT ninja stuff, still went outside the wire with the MFT, saw field grades cry because of how awesome my job was