Jan 23, 2022 9:52 PM
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
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rezpup
Commentators Al and Chris have their knee pads on for Brady.
Assholethecat
Fuck brady
insegrevious
Why?
Panserclaw
Oooo, I feel bad for him
RetailCat
Isn’t it a penalty or something to try and sac the quarterback when they don’t have the ball? I’m not too big into football.
hawks88
People don't understand the size of these guys.
PballQhead
Never denied he's a little bitch, but as a Pats fan I was smug about it...nowadays though, GO CRY ABOUT IT YOU TURNCOAT HAHAHAHAHA
ShooterMcdabbin
He ain't no Joe burrow.
Tomadzo
Brady admitted this week that the refs let him get away with a ton of shit. Fuck Brady. Let him rot
JCBalance
Fuck Brady because the refs let him? Think maybe you're hating the wrong people, bud.
zHurk777
He admitted something that is common knowledge & not uncommon in the NFL or other pro sports. Best players get special treatment.
archery126
Just last week Brady said he's gotten away with unsportsmanlike, and is a pain in the ass to the refs. Gotta wonder if this was payback.
https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1483833476734402570?t=Ww62dADYMDs8xpekDNW2Vg&s=19
freshage
Laughs in rugby.
GuysJustWannaFish
3 15yd penalties against the bucks in the first half. Congratulations, you played yourself...
WokeGhettoSpiritualist
Melonfish
He should try Rugby. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/19863795.amp
SnakeonaSegway
"If I want any more kids this has got to be my pride and joy." Dang!!!
ImKindaDone
I would pay good money to watch Tom Brady play one rugby match. Let's see how he does when a 25 stone Welshman comes at him at full speed.
TheNLK
Not many rugby players are interested in getting hit by NFL players.
Without their padding? They'd shrug it off like a gnat. These guys are used to it. American football players are pussies by comparison.
You are a fucking fool. The padding just makes it easier to hit harder, similar to boxing gloves. Ruby players would get splatted by 1/2
by mediocre football players bruh. You have no idea what you are talking about. They are ridiculous athletes.
superwasabi
He needs those lips for kissing his son on the lips
memeseeks
Good'ole Ed Hochuli. I thought he retired though...
dingo8yrbaby
He did retire. That was his son Shawn.
Ah... Still in the Hochuli bloodline though.
TalionofGondor
Shut up daddy kisser
smashole
Bye bye brady!
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
Yeesh what a bitch.
Wargamez
Could be worse, could be crying like every soccer player when a butterfly comes near them. At least he's actually bleeding.
Maybe I'm the bitch.
TalkinRadio
Beezlebubble
Separated my shoulder and tore some muscles after getting horse collared in my teens. Put my shoulder back in and just kept playing. In the
Long run, bad idea cause it never healed right and my arm will never sit in its socket correctly now, but yeah...I miss premier soccer
I've also torn a retina and kept playing. Concussions and kept playing. Only things that stopped me were the double hyper extended knees and
Broken collar bone. All this made me hate floppers. Just get up
iktome99
Baby back bitch
mariemcd
So he bit his lip. suck it up princess.
HoneyBerryWood
No you dont understand football lil princess and im not going to explain it to you cuase your clearly hateful and stupid LOL
Ad Hominem attacks - really? The hit was to his chest. He bit his own lip. What is not to understand?
forgivemyinsurrection
How many of you keyboard warriors have been hit in the chin by Von Miller's helmet at full speed?
Lol @ full speed. If it was full speed he would be on the ground
These clowns will never understand they dont know what goes down in football a bunch of ignorant people with their head up their a$$
Trimule
You young whippersnappers! We played grip your mask, lock your elbows, lead with your forehead & make his breastbone touch his spine! (of 1/
course when we played a HS kid lineman over 200 lbs it was BIG deal. Now you've got HS QBs that are 6'3" 210lbs. No "sissy" rules = deaths.
igobeder
You can even see Miller lower his head right before he hits Brady.
Clearly incidental...he must be having a shit game
Incidental doesn't matter. The point of the targeting rule is to prevent using the crown of helmet. #40 lowered head/helmet & launched.
kowlefe
So should they flag Brady for roughing himself since he bit his lip on a clean hit?
Kinda headbutted his chin. Not on purpose, but it happened.
laserite
Maybe they should tell him to wear a mouth guard next season?
LabyrinthBuilder
Tom, maybe it's time to retire and let the real men do the sports
LOL WHAT A FUKING JOKE! ? HOPEFULLY YOU SEEK HELP CUASE YOUR CLEARY BEYOND STUPID ????
DiedAndHauntingImgur
This is an important life lessons lads; do not, and I repeat, do not fuck with Rugby women… they’re scary
ExtremeAndViolentButtFun
Or roller derby girls.
God this app is garbage cya later fuk stains
SomeDetroitGuy
It should have been a penalty but as a general rule, yelling profanity at a ref won't magically convince them you're right. I was hoping he
was going to melt down again and get thrown out of the game but seeing then lose on a last second play was awesome.
DontcallmeLen
I thought the point of American Soccerball was all the man on man action?
brownfudgiedoodoostains
And not even the fun kind of man on man action
They do attempt to limit the brain damage though by avoiding helmet to helmet contact. Or in this case, helmet to chin.
TCGView
Interesting fact. That was Brady's first Unsportsman-like penalty in his entire 22 year career.
mardukkur
Hochuli is such a hack.
And it came the week after Brady bragged about consistently getting away with talking shit to the refs.
Yep, he has almost always gotten some leniency with the refs about so much. Not this time! Ref was like "Bitch, this is the playoffs!"
SternoTesticularLigament
Stafford unchoked a choking quarter, Brady the usual masterful comeback, what a fucking ending to a game, good ol’ USA football
RavennaMagnus
Maybe if he didn’t complain every time he was touched it’d be a different story. Boy who cried wolf
eepsheep
I joke he has his own rule "roughing the Brady".
SnoopyDancing
he could play soccer
DocJungleRot
I was about to ask is he practicing to play soccer
stewgru
He was literally bleeding from his mouth. Clearly hit in the face though lol
rossimus
Tell me you don't know much about football without telling me you don't know much about football
Cyvster
You're a dumbass. Miller could have been ejected from that hit. He dropped his head and lead with his helmet into a defenseless player.
Yeah they shouldn’t be able to touch the QB, you’re right
They’ve called penalties on touching the qb for way less though. No consistency
That’s a separate issue. This hit isn’t that bad either in real time speed. A minor bleeding lip is barely an injury in NFL
It was caused by a defender going helmet first into a QBs chin. That's supposed to be a penalty.
CarpetheCarp
I played rugby. Yeah. If the blood isn’t blocking vision play on.
historycat
He complains on nearly every play. I'm surprised they finally called this after all these years.
I wonder how many games of his you've actually seen.
tehranosaurusrex
He was bleeding from his mouth after that hit
NCPBullet
Womp womp shouldn't have been bitching after every damn play some one lays a finger on him
You must be a falcons fan
Green Bay fan currently dealing with Karen Rodgers and our VERY special teams.
If that would have happend to your QB youll be screaming at the roof your full of $hit but im not suprised you come off as a bozo
My full of shit did what?
TheGhostofLionelHutz
to be fair, he does usually get those calls. He gets roughing flags that no other QB in the league would even think of asking for
Lmfao. You guys are fucking ridiculous. Google how many roughing penalties every QB has.
Total flags is the wrong metric. Brady rarely gets hit often because he's amazing at getting the ball out fast. but when he does get hit...
Keep reading. Per 100 pass attempts is also there. And if a QB is getting the ball out fast, are his hits more or less likely to be late?
per 100 pass attempts still irrelevant. Show me flags per QB hit.
And you said Brady GETS the calls. He objectively doesn't.
You cant even be plural in 2021. He got one call. He got zero in 2019.
There are 8 QBs since 2009 with more roughing calls than Brady, and 2 of them weren't drafted until 2012. Another is Cam.
And none of them played as many games. Per 100 passes, Brady isn't even top 12. He had one call in the entire 2021 season.
Matt Ryan had 10. Goff and Tannehill had 7. Ben had 6. Carr, Rodgers, Stafford, Mahomes, 3 others had 5. Brady was #24.
bibisnuggler
They actually debunked this. He gets calls at some of the lowest rates in the league. Just sayin…
No one else gets these calls.. https://sports.yahoo.com/questionable-roughing-call-helps-tom-brady-bucs-to-first-td-vs-eagles-190045727.html
IsACouchASeat
Those penalties are called at a lower rate for him than many other quarterbacks. You can look it up
Don't be stupid. Everyone gets questionable roughing calls. That's the whole meme about touching QBs. Don't be stupid.
fstngutz
Amazing that you wanna belittle it, but none of you know the rule. It’s a helmet to helmet hit, and under the chin. Should have been 15
rupreckt
Ok fanboy. He pulled up and didn’t follow through and he’d never get a 15 for that. Brady has a long history of pitching fits for the most
Minor inconveniences. You can also see he said a potty word while SCREAMING at the ref. Which is 15 all day and night.
What videio are you watching? #40 did not pull up. gee. Instead, he dropped his head/helmet & launched himself at QB: textbook targeting.
>> Brady is still a crybaby, though.
The linked video. Did Brady end up on the ground? 40 did NOT hit through Brady. He pulled up after contact and was under control.
izzatme
One thing that is a certainty, on any given topic the majority of people here are wrong. You are in the minority being right. Thanks!
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
I could watch Brady simps cry all day.
sorrythatisunavailable
lmao, groups averages on a topic are far more likely to be correct than an individual. You're just salty about constantly getting downvoted.
CornMan
He dropped his shoulders to make a clean tackle and then had the attention to pull up and slow down and in doing so grazed Brady's helmet.
He dropped his head/helmet & launched himself: targeting, without question. Brady is still a crybaby, though.
If he had continued and hit Brady full speed or literally lead forward with his helmet into his it would have been more grounds than this.
donthaveonebrojustlurk
he literally double tapped the brakes by popping both his feet straight down before leaning in to make the tackle
tuddyshow852012
Imo looks more like helmet to chest with Miller's helmet sliding up into Brady's chin after impact.
lagkiller
Which is still a penalty
TheOldSchoolisBack
Rulebook: “The provisions of (b) do not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or helmet in the course of a conventional tackle or block”
Conventional is the key word. Helmet first isn't conventional.
mcshady
He had him almost entirely wrapped up before the helmet hit, what part of the word 'first' confuses you?
What part of "that doesn't matter if you hit the QB in the head" confuses you?
The comment you replied to is literally the rule saying that incidental contact is ok in the course of a conventional tackle....
AngLaceAndWhiskey
& I'm not a Rams fan defending Miller either. I'm not a fan to either team so I've got no skin in the game. It was a clean hit
rsktkr
Incidental contact during a normal football play. Won't be called, shouldn't be called. The entire internet is mocking him for good reason.
UncleVenoM
Von Miller is skilled enough to know exactly what he was doing, where and how. He wansn't in a scrum, he head-launched at a QB mid throw
And the internet is always mocking Brady so what's new - but the guy knows the rules and so does Von and he got away with a dirty hit.
tappersparty3
Only if it's intentional & it clearly wasn't. Miller didn't drop his head & bring it up. He made a jump FORWARD to Brady's chest, they hit
He dropped his head/helmet & launched: textbook targeting.
Traja01
I highly highly doubt it requires any intent….refs do miss calls though, it happens. You move on.
Youre being upvoted for being wrong. Intent has nothing to do with helmet to helmet, or hitting a QB in the head at all.
enybi
Intentionality has not been considered for helmet-to-helmet for several years; it's a flat 15 yards.
Yeetovichsenor
Intentionality is not a factor in that rule. It’s forcible, and the hit was forcible based on the reaction of his head and helmet
VasyaTheCat
Love the rule book reference. Checks out. Only question is on being forcible. I'm no expert, I'm not sure, I think it's not so bad.
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2021-nfl-rulebook/#article-11.-roughing-the-passer for the downvoters out there see (c)
ActuallyAPirate
He was already leaning into the hit when he threw it, impressive control from the LA player not taking him to the ground.
thehungryguy
thats vonn miller, one of the top outside linebackers in the nfl
DemSumBigAssRidges
Too many people "hate" Brady to be impartial on this. More people are just happy to watch him get hit. Dude literally leaps at Brad's head.
CGWN
He lifts up a little while slowing down so he doesn't form tackle a defenseless player at full speed. Incidental contact results. No foul.
miraclemaxcoc
Primarily a basketball official, but yeah never gonna call that on the defense, in particular since the defender pulled back.
It'd be a complete non-issue if Brady wasn't too special to wear a mouth guard, or at least would stop chewing on his lip during games.
Like I said, too many people hate Brady. He literally leaps at Brady's head. It's in the video. Feel free to watch it.
How many QBs you seeing with mouth guards?
Probably just Russel Wilson. Not requiring them doesn't give every QB the right to swear at the officials when they bite their lips, though.
ADDGirl
Leaps at his head? Are you watching the same play I'm watching? That's a legit tackle. I don't give a damn about Brady either way.
Watch it again.
It's literally targeting. He leaves his feet, has no play on the ball, and hits Brady in the head/neck area. It's LITERALLY targeting.
Hits him in the head/neck? His helmet hits shoulder pads first my dude. No play on the ball? He's looking for a sack not a turnover.
v
Like, at best, it's roughing the passer, but it's literally the very first example of what targeting is here:
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/heres-guide-targeting-college-football-and-nfl
I just read that, this wasn't even close to targeting. He was not AIMING for Brady's head.
ontarioOT
Instead, 15 the other way?!? The one against Suh was worse - Stafford kicks him in the groin, Suh gets up and points - 15 yards against Suh.
I’m not talking about another play or any what aboutusm, I’m taking about Brady talking a helmet to the chin. Other calls REALLY sucked too
ConfessionBare
Yes but imgur doesn't like Tom Brady, sooooo.......
ActualZedAxial
To be fair no one likes tom
plainoldfool
I must be an oddball, unpopular opinion puffin but I started liking after he signed with Tampa Bay. I guess it was New England and (1)
Belichick I actually hate.
rezpup
Commentators Al and Chris have their knee pads on for Brady.
Assholethecat
Fuck brady
insegrevious
Why?
Panserclaw
Oooo, I feel bad for him
RetailCat
Isn’t it a penalty or something to try and sac the quarterback when they don’t have the ball? I’m not too big into football.
hawks88
People don't understand the size of these guys.
PballQhead
Never denied he's a little bitch, but as a Pats fan I was smug about it...nowadays though, GO CRY ABOUT IT YOU TURNCOAT HAHAHAHAHA
ShooterMcdabbin
He ain't no Joe burrow.
Tomadzo
Brady admitted this week that the refs let him get away with a ton of shit. Fuck Brady. Let him rot
JCBalance
Fuck Brady because the refs let him? Think maybe you're hating the wrong people, bud.
zHurk777
He admitted something that is common knowledge & not uncommon in the NFL or other pro sports. Best players get special treatment.
archery126
Just last week Brady said he's gotten away with unsportsmanlike, and is a pain in the ass to the refs. Gotta wonder if this was payback.
archery126
https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1483833476734402570?t=Ww62dADYMDs8xpekDNW2Vg&s=19
freshage
Laughs in rugby.
GuysJustWannaFish
3 15yd penalties against the bucks in the first half. Congratulations, you played yourself...
WokeGhettoSpiritualist
Melonfish
He should try Rugby. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/19863795.amp
SnakeonaSegway
"If I want any more kids this has got to be my pride and joy." Dang!!!
ImKindaDone
I would pay good money to watch Tom Brady play one rugby match. Let's see how he does when a 25 stone Welshman comes at him at full speed.
TheNLK
Not many rugby players are interested in getting hit by NFL players.
ImKindaDone
Without their padding? They'd shrug it off like a gnat. These guys are used to it. American football players are pussies by comparison.
TheNLK
You are a fucking fool. The padding just makes it easier to hit harder, similar to boxing gloves. Ruby players would get splatted by 1/2
TheNLK
by mediocre football players bruh. You have no idea what you are talking about. They are ridiculous athletes.
superwasabi
He needs those lips for kissing his son on the lips
memeseeks
Good'ole Ed Hochuli. I thought he retired though...
dingo8yrbaby
He did retire. That was his son Shawn.
memeseeks
Ah... Still in the Hochuli bloodline though.
TalionofGondor
Shut up daddy kisser
smashole
Bye bye brady!
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
Yeesh what a bitch.
Wargamez
Could be worse, could be crying like every soccer player when a butterfly comes near them. At least he's actually bleeding.
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
Maybe I'm the bitch.
TalkinRadio
Beezlebubble
Separated my shoulder and tore some muscles after getting horse collared in my teens. Put my shoulder back in and just kept playing. In the
Beezlebubble
Long run, bad idea cause it never healed right and my arm will never sit in its socket correctly now, but yeah...I miss premier soccer
Beezlebubble
I've also torn a retina and kept playing. Concussions and kept playing. Only things that stopped me were the double hyper extended knees and
Beezlebubble
Broken collar bone. All this made me hate floppers. Just get up
iktome99
Baby back bitch
mariemcd
So he bit his lip. suck it up princess.
HoneyBerryWood
No you dont understand football lil princess and im not going to explain it to you cuase your clearly hateful and stupid LOL
mariemcd
Ad Hominem attacks - really? The hit was to his chest. He bit his own lip. What is not to understand?
forgivemyinsurrection
How many of you keyboard warriors have been hit in the chin by Von Miller's helmet at full speed?
iktome99
Lol @ full speed. If it was full speed he would be on the ground
HoneyBerryWood
These clowns will never understand they dont know what goes down in football a bunch of ignorant people with their head up their a$$
Trimule
You young whippersnappers! We played grip your mask, lock your elbows, lead with your forehead & make his breastbone touch his spine! (of 1/
Trimule
course when we played a HS kid lineman over 200 lbs it was BIG deal. Now you've got HS QBs that are 6'3" 210lbs. No "sissy" rules = deaths.
igobeder
You can even see Miller lower his head right before he hits Brady.
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
Clearly incidental...he must be having a shit game
zHurk777
Incidental doesn't matter. The point of the targeting rule is to prevent using the crown of helmet. #40 lowered head/helmet & launched.
kowlefe
So should they flag Brady for roughing himself since he bit his lip on a clean hit?
TheNLK
Kinda headbutted his chin. Not on purpose, but it happened.
laserite
Maybe they should tell him to wear a mouth guard next season?
LabyrinthBuilder
Tom, maybe it's time to retire and let the real men do the sports
HoneyBerryWood
LOL WHAT A FUKING JOKE! ? HOPEFULLY YOU SEEK HELP CUASE YOUR CLEARY BEYOND STUPID ????
DiedAndHauntingImgur
This is an important life lessons lads; do not, and I repeat, do not fuck with Rugby women… they’re scary
ExtremeAndViolentButtFun
Or roller derby girls.
HoneyBerryWood
God this app is garbage cya later fuk stains
SomeDetroitGuy
It should have been a penalty but as a general rule, yelling profanity at a ref won't magically convince them you're right. I was hoping he
SomeDetroitGuy
was going to melt down again and get thrown out of the game but seeing then lose on a last second play was awesome.
DontcallmeLen
I thought the point of American Soccerball was all the man on man action?
brownfudgiedoodoostains
And not even the fun kind of man on man action
TheNLK
They do attempt to limit the brain damage though by avoiding helmet to helmet contact. Or in this case, helmet to chin.
TCGView
Interesting fact. That was Brady's first Unsportsman-like penalty in his entire 22 year career.
mardukkur
Hochuli is such a hack.
archery126
And it came the week after Brady bragged about consistently getting away with talking shit to the refs.
TCGView
Yep, he has almost always gotten some leniency with the refs about so much. Not this time! Ref was like "Bitch, this is the playoffs!"
archery126
https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1483833476734402570?t=Ww62dADYMDs8xpekDNW2Vg&s=19
SternoTesticularLigament
Stafford unchoked a choking quarter, Brady the usual masterful comeback, what a fucking ending to a game, good ol’ USA football
RavennaMagnus
Maybe if he didn’t complain every time he was touched it’d be a different story. Boy who cried wolf
eepsheep
I joke he has his own rule "roughing the Brady".
SnoopyDancing
he could play soccer
DocJungleRot
I was about to ask is he practicing to play soccer
stewgru
He was literally bleeding from his mouth. Clearly hit in the face though lol
rossimus
Tell me you don't know much about football without telling me you don't know much about football
Cyvster
You're a dumbass. Miller could have been ejected from that hit. He dropped his head and lead with his helmet into a defenseless player.
RavennaMagnus
Yeah they shouldn’t be able to touch the QB, you’re right
stewgru
They’ve called penalties on touching the qb for way less though. No consistency
RavennaMagnus
That’s a separate issue. This hit isn’t that bad either in real time speed. A minor bleeding lip is barely an injury in NFL
JCBalance
It was caused by a defender going helmet first into a QBs chin. That's supposed to be a penalty.
CarpetheCarp
I played rugby. Yeah. If the blood isn’t blocking vision play on.
historycat
He complains on nearly every play. I'm surprised they finally called this after all these years.
JCBalance
I wonder how many games of his you've actually seen.
tehranosaurusrex
He was bleeding from his mouth after that hit
NCPBullet
Womp womp shouldn't have been bitching after every damn play some one lays a finger on him
tehranosaurusrex
You must be a falcons fan
NCPBullet
Green Bay fan currently dealing with Karen Rodgers and our VERY special teams.
HoneyBerryWood
If that would have happend to your QB youll be screaming at the roof your full of $hit but im not suprised you come off as a bozo
NCPBullet
My full of shit did what?
TheGhostofLionelHutz
to be fair, he does usually get those calls. He gets roughing flags that no other QB in the league would even think of asking for
JCBalance
Lmfao. You guys are fucking ridiculous. Google how many roughing penalties every QB has.
TheGhostofLionelHutz
Total flags is the wrong metric. Brady rarely gets hit often because he's amazing at getting the ball out fast. but when he does get hit...
JCBalance
Keep reading. Per 100 pass attempts is also there. And if a QB is getting the ball out fast, are his hits more or less likely to be late?
TheGhostofLionelHutz
per 100 pass attempts still irrelevant. Show me flags per QB hit.
JCBalance
And you said Brady GETS the calls. He objectively doesn't.
JCBalance
You cant even be plural in 2021. He got one call. He got zero in 2019.
JCBalance
There are 8 QBs since 2009 with more roughing calls than Brady, and 2 of them weren't drafted until 2012. Another is Cam.
JCBalance
And none of them played as many games. Per 100 passes, Brady isn't even top 12. He had one call in the entire 2021 season.
JCBalance
Matt Ryan had 10. Goff and Tannehill had 7. Ben had 6. Carr, Rodgers, Stafford, Mahomes, 3 others had 5. Brady was #24.
bibisnuggler
They actually debunked this. He gets calls at some of the lowest rates in the league. Just sayin…
TheGhostofLionelHutz
No one else gets these calls.. https://sports.yahoo.com/questionable-roughing-call-helps-tom-brady-bucs-to-first-td-vs-eagles-190045727.html
IsACouchASeat
Those penalties are called at a lower rate for him than many other quarterbacks. You can look it up
JCBalance
Don't be stupid. Everyone gets questionable roughing calls. That's the whole meme about touching QBs. Don't be stupid.
fstngutz
Amazing that you wanna belittle it, but none of you know the rule. It’s a helmet to helmet hit, and under the chin. Should have been 15
rupreckt
Ok fanboy. He pulled up and didn’t follow through and he’d never get a 15 for that. Brady has a long history of pitching fits for the most
rupreckt
Minor inconveniences. You can also see he said a potty word while SCREAMING at the ref. Which is 15 all day and night.
zHurk777
What videio are you watching? #40 did not pull up. gee. Instead, he dropped his head/helmet & launched himself at QB: textbook targeting.
zHurk777
>> Brady is still a crybaby, though.
rupreckt
The linked video. Did Brady end up on the ground? 40 did NOT hit through Brady. He pulled up after contact and was under control.
izzatme
One thing that is a certainty, on any given topic the majority of people here are wrong. You are in the minority being right. Thanks!
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
I could watch Brady simps cry all day.
sorrythatisunavailable
lmao, groups averages on a topic are far more likely to be correct than an individual. You're just salty about constantly getting downvoted.
CornMan
He dropped his shoulders to make a clean tackle and then had the attention to pull up and slow down and in doing so grazed Brady's helmet.
zHurk777
He dropped his head/helmet & launched himself: targeting, without question. Brady is still a crybaby, though.
CornMan
If he had continued and hit Brady full speed or literally lead forward with his helmet into his it would have been more grounds than this.
donthaveonebrojustlurk
he literally double tapped the brakes by popping both his feet straight down before leaning in to make the tackle
tuddyshow852012
Imo looks more like helmet to chest with Miller's helmet sliding up into Brady's chin after impact.
lagkiller
Which is still a penalty
TheOldSchoolisBack
Rulebook: “The provisions of (b) do not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or helmet in the course of a conventional tackle or block”
JCBalance
Conventional is the key word. Helmet first isn't conventional.
mcshady
He had him almost entirely wrapped up before the helmet hit, what part of the word 'first' confuses you?
JCBalance
What part of "that doesn't matter if you hit the QB in the head" confuses you?
mcshady
The comment you replied to is literally the rule saying that incidental contact is ok in the course of a conventional tackle....
AngLaceAndWhiskey
& I'm not a Rams fan defending Miller either. I'm not a fan to either team so I've got no skin in the game. It was a clean hit
rsktkr
Incidental contact during a normal football play. Won't be called, shouldn't be called. The entire internet is mocking him for good reason.
UncleVenoM
Von Miller is skilled enough to know exactly what he was doing, where and how. He wansn't in a scrum, he head-launched at a QB mid throw
UncleVenoM
And the internet is always mocking Brady so what's new - but the guy knows the rules and so does Von and he got away with a dirty hit.
tappersparty3
AngLaceAndWhiskey
Only if it's intentional & it clearly wasn't. Miller didn't drop his head & bring it up. He made a jump FORWARD to Brady's chest, they hit
zHurk777
He dropped his head/helmet & launched: textbook targeting.
Traja01
I highly highly doubt it requires any intent….refs do miss calls though, it happens. You move on.
JCBalance
Youre being upvoted for being wrong. Intent has nothing to do with helmet to helmet, or hitting a QB in the head at all.
enybi
Intentionality has not been considered for helmet-to-helmet for several years; it's a flat 15 yards.
Yeetovichsenor
Intentionality is not a factor in that rule. It’s forcible, and the hit was forcible based on the reaction of his head and helmet
VasyaTheCat
Love the rule book reference. Checks out. Only question is on being forcible. I'm no expert, I'm not sure, I think it's not so bad.
Yeetovichsenor
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2021-nfl-rulebook/#article-11.-roughing-the-passer for the downvoters out there see (c)
ActuallyAPirate
He was already leaning into the hit when he threw it, impressive control from the LA player not taking him to the ground.
thehungryguy
thats vonn miller, one of the top outside linebackers in the nfl
DemSumBigAssRidges
Too many people "hate" Brady to be impartial on this. More people are just happy to watch him get hit. Dude literally leaps at Brad's head.
CGWN
He lifts up a little while slowing down so he doesn't form tackle a defenseless player at full speed. Incidental contact results. No foul.
miraclemaxcoc
Primarily a basketball official, but yeah never gonna call that on the defense, in particular since the defender pulled back.
CGWN
It'd be a complete non-issue if Brady wasn't too special to wear a mouth guard, or at least would stop chewing on his lip during games.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Like I said, too many people hate Brady. He literally leaps at Brady's head. It's in the video. Feel free to watch it.
JCBalance
How many QBs you seeing with mouth guards?
CGWN
Probably just Russel Wilson. Not requiring them doesn't give every QB the right to swear at the officials when they bite their lips, though.
ADDGirl
Leaps at his head? Are you watching the same play I'm watching? That's a legit tackle. I don't give a damn about Brady either way.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Watch it again.
DemSumBigAssRidges
It's literally targeting. He leaves his feet, has no play on the ball, and hits Brady in the head/neck area. It's LITERALLY targeting.
ADDGirl
Hits him in the head/neck? His helmet hits shoulder pads first my dude. No play on the ball? He's looking for a sack not a turnover.
DemSumBigAssRidges
DemSumBigAssRidges
Like, at best, it's roughing the passer, but it's literally the very first example of what targeting is here:
DemSumBigAssRidges
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/heres-guide-targeting-college-football-and-nfl
ADDGirl
I just read that, this wasn't even close to targeting. He was not AIMING for Brady's head.
ontarioOT
Instead, 15 the other way?!? The one against Suh was worse - Stafford kicks him in the groin, Suh gets up and points - 15 yards against Suh.
tappersparty3
fstngutz
I’m not talking about another play or any what aboutusm, I’m taking about Brady talking a helmet to the chin. Other calls REALLY sucked too
ConfessionBare
Yes but imgur doesn't like Tom Brady, sooooo.......
ActualZedAxial
To be fair no one likes tom
plainoldfool
I must be an oddball, unpopular opinion puffin but I started liking after he signed with Tampa Bay. I guess it was New England and (1)
plainoldfool
Belichick I actually hate.