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Dare i say, send your nudes? We are all equal under our clothes
Jan 19, 2016 1:44 PM
MicahL
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Dare i say, send your nudes? We are all equal under our clothes
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Yep.
Heatmiser11
When Cthulhu comes, all will be reconciled.
apolloin
Yes. Why settle for the lesser of two evils?
Samcraig
It seems to me that things like this are creating more racism towards white people.
brauntosaurus
translation: "I think BLM should protest in a way that doesn't inconvenience anyone and doesn't force me to acknowledge it's existence"
MyCrazyLifeStories
What if nothing matters at all and we are playing this game to help weak insecurities?
zenunchucks
"Listen, your son may have been murdered but I am LATE. FOR. WORK."
snoogans671
Some retailers and call centers wont hesitate to fire you for being late for work.And holding up emergency vehicles can mean death to others
AzraelArtz
That's my only issue with this. Protest, as it's your right, but don't block roads...
fvckyes
It sucks to be stuck in traffic unable to pick up your daughter. It sucks to have your child murdered by the police, and then ignored.
IllusionOfHatred
Now that's an unpopular puffin. TBH: I agree that protesting by blocking traffic is probably one of the worst ways..
NiceCatchBlancoNinoTooBadYourAssGotSacked
I question the logic of protesting by making literally everyone annoyed at you.
dogestyle
They don't have jobs so they cannot go on strike
thatoneotherguy42
Bwahahaha.... upvote sir.
ThisIsGod
How the fuck do you get from a group of people protesting racial inequality to going on strike at a job? Or are you just being an asshole?
dogestyle
yes (I was just being an asshole, it was meant as a joke on stereotypes, etc)
FatBoobsDontCount
Proving OP's point
jpkyt7
everyone saying this is how you bring attention to a cause...agreed but they have not brought any positive attention to their cause
icyvaynes
Like when they interrupted a school library. Were people (maybe Not all) were trying to learn and better themselves.
Frozenspokes
I think that this might be another popular puffin.
MicahL
Really? I truly thought this was a very unpopular stance. I suppose I'm glad others feel the same though
dogestyle
it's a very common feeling towards strikes or demonstration that blockade a public service, whether it is justified or not
Iforgetmyusernameeasily
The whole moment has become a joke where all you hear is the same old dribble "WHITE MAN = BAD" while they ignore their own issues.
sonnydojo
Go to a black church sometime, i guarantee you they of about issues in their area also. Amazing fact: you can care about more than one thing
preaction
How many things you care about depends on how small-minded you are. The smallest minds can care only about themselves.
Banana001
Maybe change the name?
DrShrinker
Duh.
Meowzzar
Yeah, ever since that shit started I always feel like I have to walk on both eggshells and paper thin ice, as a not-racist white person :T
edwardelricsnipples
It's almost like dividing races creates racism
tankdog420
To be fair in chicago the airline workers were protesting for better wages and stopped traffic....we're you in chicago?
MicahL
Nope, California actually
tankdog420
yea i just seen that on the news. had the bay bridge blocked up. stupid assholes.
ImgurBannedMeWtf
Sure Black Lives Matter, but first let's talk about how All Turn Signals should be used. Or how it's not ok to NOT tip. Prioritize ...
Ivesaidtoomuchalready
I disagree with tipping. I do tip but I'd rather they get normal wages and my meal cost more.
ImgurBannedMeWtf
Agreed on tipping ... But turn signals ??? Not a suggestion ??!?
chaserrrr
Where I live they do get normal wages, but 10-15% tip is still expected. It makes no sense to me.
OhHellNaw
I agree because no lives matter is how everyone is. Because no one gives a shit about any but themselves anymore for most of the population.
Randomrockets
Anymore? It's always been that way
blitherypoop
But we live in the worst time ever! /s
Randomrockets
The world is literally a hair from falling apart, how dare any of us say otherwise!?!?
sonnydojo
It's protesting 101 & used everywhere. You need people to be aware of you and create something newsworthy. It brings attention to the cause.
mauryfeldman
Unless it brings negative attention to the cause, leading people to oppose or ignore demands that otherwise might be accepted.
electricheel
I think the execution is poor. Not the campaign itself. It is drawing attention to issues that sometimes go overlooked.
MrWolfwood
it's really not, they are just makin things a great deal worse. They act like thugs to get a point out and that is just not how it's done.
popejubal
The execution is great most of the time. And what they do most of the time is ignored. Only the shitty parts make the news.
electricheel
I can definitely see that happening. I said something similar in a previous comment. The media plays a huge role in what is shown and how
electricheel
the movement is portrayed
DarthPiette
That BLM only cares about violence when it's committed by a white cop and ignore the violence within their own communities?
kasaku
There are weekly protests in Chicago against violence. Ditto in Oakland. The fact that you don't know that is because the media doesn't 1/2
StonesOnTheHill
So every movement should be about every issue? No one can fight for all causes simultaneously.
preaction
All Causes Matter
HandAndaHalf
is completely ignoring the massive problems in black communitys an issue that they shouldn't care about?
SciGuy
I have a number of problems with BLM, but why should every issue they care about be part of the movement?
electricheel
I think I might need to back track a bit. No that's not the issues that go overlooked. But police brutality and injustices have been around
electricheel
>for years and often go overlooked from other races because they do not see it first hand. They're making these injustices public now.
electricheel
And we do not ignore the violence that happens in our communities. Playing Devil's Advocate, maybe the media chooses not to show what we do
electricheel
in our communities because it doesn't affect the mass. Just a thought, not a definitive statement. There are efforts that happen in our
MicahL
The execution goes hand to hand with the campaign. One cannot protest of equality under the law, while breaking the law.
popejubal
The overwhelming majority of BLM protests obey the law. But those don't get any attention. It's only these kinds that make the news.
electricheel
That's why I said the execution was poor. There are other ways the get their point across than the methods they've been taking.
popejubal
They've been using the appropriate methods *most* of the time. But those methods get ignored. Proof: you didn't even know about them.
MicahL
I do know about them? Why would you assume I don't? But why would I make a puffin meme about a peaceful protest? It's these types of antics
MicahL
that turn the public away from he cause actually worsening the situation by furthering the racial gap. I
popejubal
The overwhelming majority of their protests are peaceful and appropriate. You obviously didn't know that because you made this puffin.
DaBulls1980
One cannot make themselves sound intelligent simply by starting a sentence with "one cannot". So are you saying that we should all be law >
DaBulls1980
Abiding citizens at all times? Even when the status quo is unacceptable? I got news for you, our whole world is built by people who >
DaBulls1980
Defied authority when the authority was failing the people.
MicahL
Trying to sound intelligent? It's called using the English language to make a point. And I got news for you, the path to equality isn't
JohnJacobJingleHeimerSmitt
They only care about black lives affected by white people, you dont see them protesting blacks slaughtering eachother in major cities
sonnydojo
I love how like 90% of people saying this probably live in white areas and mainly associate with all white people. Not much credibility.
popejubal
Actually, you do see them protesting that. Or at least you would if those protests made it onto the news instead of being ignored by media.
kidinthesixties
Yes they do. There are lots of campaigns against blackonblack violence. You don't see them in the news, therefore you think they don't exist
kidinthesixties
Source: I am a Chicagoan.
thegreatheed
Honestly, I would love to see the same protest happen in a black neighborhood, where there's a high incidence of black on black crime.
thegreatheed
Not that I wish anything bad to happen, but that it would legitimize their argument in the eyes of the public.
pharmboy
Lay on the horn and full steam ahead!
daromander
Aren't these the types of things MLK did to protest? These are non violent protests
Whydopeoplekeepcallingmethat
Let's be honest, if imgur had existed during the Civil Rights era they would have said the same bullshit about MLK.
AshantiCandy
Well this is disappointing.
quade
Sigh, here we go again: http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3du1qm/eli5_why_is_it_so_controversial_when_someone_says/ct8pei1
zenunchucks
*claps*
DumbThings
This is wonderful.
sirkibblemunchkerflap
The "too" shouldn't be implicit. By making it implicit you expect too much out of people and that is why this is controversial
InexplicablyAvailableUsername
That is a very good response, I'm gonna bookmark it.
apolloin
Sadly the point that it tries to make about the implicit 'too' being universally implicit within the BLM movement is later proven wrong.
tomkingkong
I still have the same gripe with the phrase: it comes off as arrogant. The type of protests mentioned by OP bolster that sentiment.
ThisIsGod
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you either didn't read the argument or didn't understand it.
thegreatheed
Because the only reason he can disagree is if he doesn't understand? Are you saying he's either stupid or wrong if he disagrees?
ThisIsGod
That's a false dichotomy. The statement is that black lives matter too, as in they just want equality. That's arrogant? To want equality?
tomkingkong
The statement isn't black lives matter too. That's the problem. Assuming the too is the problem. The movement for awareness is correct.
tomkingkong
I'm implying the phrase should convey it's meaning without the need for Reddit posts. I could also argue the term feminism is outdated.
tomkingkong
I'm going for all the downvotes
ThisIsGod
It doesn't need a reddit post. The reddit post is there for people incapable of understanding the basic sentiment.
tomkingkong
It doesn't need. If it wants people to get it, then it shouldn't be ambiguous as to necessitate a clarification. Most people already agree.
ThisIsGod
Just because you have a problem understanding that it implies the word "too" doesnt mean you throw the whole thing out.
tomkingkong
No, it would be unwise to throw it away at this point. Just don't overstay the welcome: extremity in any sense tends to lead to backlash.
TobySomething
I think the "implicit too" argument is too subtle and begs the question. What a lot of people hear is an implicit only.
TobySomething
I think the best argument against all lives matter is just that it's not actually a movement and people only use it as a distraction.
apolloin
I think the best argument against black lives matter is that it is polarising and allows people who are arguably the problem to ignore it.
popejubal
That has always been true. Any time an oppressed minority tries to get what's due to them, it makes the privileged people unhappy.
asquiiiiiiisha
Don't stop literally the people you are supposed to be supporting from getting to their shitty evening shifts in the city they can't afford.
popejubal
says the privileged person who is unhappy with the oppressed minority trying to get what's due to them. As has always been the case.
AzraelArtz
Ugh.. as a black person, don't go blocking roads or bridges or anything. Oppressed or not, doing that can potentially hurt or kill someone.
popejubal
As a cop, don't wrongfully arrest and harass people who haven't done anything wrong.
AzraelArtz
Look I'm not gonna sit here and argue it or whatever. I'm in no way privileged or even oppressed. But emergency vehicles need to get through
asquiiiiiiisha
If you want to do a sit in to protest the actions of the government/police, go do it at the fucking seats of government/police stations.
popejubal
If that worked, I'm pretty sure more people would be doing it. Since it doesn't work, though...
asquiiiiiiisha
Is this working?
preaction
When will we know?
asquiiiiiiisha
It's turning public opinion against them and not inconveniencing the people in power nearly as much as ordinary citizens. 1/2
asquiiiiiiisha
But will get something closer to it than barricading a bridge (especially since why you want is the mayor's resignation).
asquiiiiiiisha
Only 40 people protested outside the mayor of Oakland's house yesterday.
asquiiiiiiisha
In my experience with political action, planting your ass in city hall and not letting the mayor leave might not get you what you want
marxopinium
Here is an honest question: would you pay them any attention otherwise?
SanAntonioToRiverdale187
would anyone? No media bothers to cover when its just plain black on black killings and crimes, yet as soon as you can fault a race it news.
MicahL
Honest answer: it's impossible not to, just turn on the tv. Aside from that, I sure wouldnt oppose them otherwise. I would be all for
MicahL
their "movement" if they went about it properly. But protesting inequality under the law while breaking the law isn't the way to go about it
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
But there have always been lots of legal protests and campaigns since forever and you always ignored them...
popejubal
There were tons of peaceful protests in Baltimore and Ferguson and Philly and LA and other cities, but they didn't end up on the news.
YouWillNotLikeThis
But breaking the law is the reason you hear about them.... There has been plenty of legal campigns before
MicahL
So if you're saying breaking the law is the most effective way to gain the support of your community where should the line be drawn? Perhaps
YouWillNotLikeThis
that not really what i wrote is it?
popejubal
You'd be all for their "movement", but you still wouldn't do anything about it. Peaceful protests don't actually achieve anything.
kasaku
This was a peaceful protest. Passive protest doesn't do anything.
Macewindow54
well shit, I want to protest BLM how should I go about it
popejubal
Show up where they're protesting. Bring a sign with big block lettering. You'll get to be ignored just like they are.
kasaku
They only show protests like this or violent protests on TV. And just not opposing them isn't paying attention to them.
TheCAstallion15
I think a lot of the problems stem from deeply rooted Black cultural issues. Until there is widespread accountability, we won't much change.
SiameseCitys
What? Are you blaming institutional racism ON black people?
iAmLordBeer
No idea why you're being downvoted. That's how I read it too, and I had the exact same reaction.
HighlySexualLobster
Come on now, you know exactly why some folks would see that remark buried.
Moonmoon409
Yeah...so...ARE you blaming black people for institutionalized racism? Seeking clarity.
WeAllFloat
Protesting that disrupts the lives of others absolutely does not generate support for the cause.
sadwastedmexican
nah cuz they don't need white allies, now shut up and give them what they want
preaction
Please restrict your free speech to the designated free speech zone, 20 miles south in the middle of the cornfield, next to the tree.
StonesOnTheHill
Has there ever been a protest that didn't disrupt the lives of others that anyone really paid attention to? It's kinda what protests do.
WeAllFloat
Protesting outside of city hall or something causes a lot less disruption than closing a major freeway does.
TestAccount321
"i.e., they should protest in a place where I don't have to go and can ignore them"
WeAllFloat
Incorrect. I drive past city hall everyday. I have no problem with them protesting there and Out of the way of traffic.
Aibell125
It probably does the exact opposite. It's selfish, spoiled, rude entitled whining
geckomama
Exactly this. I was an activist in Atlanta and I always tried to make things inviting and not piss off everyone around me
WeAllFloat
I can totally respect that
geckomama
Thank you. I tried to make our causes appealing so that people would at least listen for a little bit
KunFayyaKun
yeah! tell them to protest away from where I can see them, or hear them or have any interaction with them, like all protests in history.
DasOgre
Let's think about why it had to come to this level. Not supporting them, but when people feel this is the only way to be heard, somethingsup
Nomanorus
MLK did exactly that with the Birmingham bus boycotts. I take it he was wrong then too?
only90skidswillgetthis
Yeah he should have did his protesting in a quiet way that did not in any way impact my grandparents day.
kasaku
Nah, that'll never work.
LearningOnImgur
1. It's the Montgomery bus boycotts. 2. It was a boycott of a bus system they never stopped traffic, just took different types of (1)
TestAccount321
It took more than the bus boycotts, you know that right? What did you think of the restaurant sit-ins?
LearningOnImgur
Transportation to shut the business down. Don't disrespect mlk by using his name on things you don't actually know.
usuallyblonde
But, wasn't the Birmingham Campaign about disrupting the status quo to bring attention to problems? I don't think confusing two cities (1/2
usuallyblonde
in Alabama takes away from the point here. Nor can I imagine that MLK would be disrespected by that comment. (2/2)
HeWhoPours
Boycotting using buses to stop segregation is nothing like shutting down major highways and interstates or interfering with airports. Wtf 1/
TestAccount321
So what did you think of the sit ins, then?
usuallyblonde
I like our repeated attempts to correct folks on this. Keep it up! :)
HeWhoPours
2/ are you talking about?
KunFayyaKun
history?
HeWhoPours
They boycotted buses and used taxis instead, causing a monetary issue for public transit. This is not like shutting down major highways or1/
HeWhoPours
2/ fucking with airports. What the fuck are you guys talking about. So dumb.
KunFayyaKun
IT disrupted public transportation in major cities for whites. Same thing.
programagor
No lives matter. The universe will die via The Heat Death and no physical action will be possible ever again.
Dragonogh
Everything's an accident. None of us belong anywhere. We're all going to die.
IllShowYee
what if all the black holes keep sucking in everything including other black holes and then themselves and all energy and matter implodes?
dogestyle
When you talk about long term, you don't fuck around
BlunderbussVigilante
"In the long run, we're all dead" - John Maynard Keynes
OmgOptimized
Best career choice long term? Doesn't matter. Which food long term? Doesn't matter. Internet points? Doesn't matter. wait...
dogestyle
Matter ? doesn't matter
NipplesInAJar
Well, that was... ah, doesn't matter.
YoSoyMilk
Always upvote Heat Death
snow33
Eat at arbys
Wasindear
Kyubey to the rescue.
Nomanorus
Bill Nye the Nihilist guy!
Zreen
There's a theory that an excess of exotic particles after the Heat Death might cause another Big Bang, kinda like that Futurama episode.
brandonmhenry
we have zero impact on the universe. we are not important. just be happy we got to exist consciously.
Nomanorus
Assuming we're aware we exist consciously at all. Nhilism is fun!
MicahL
Well that's depressing
TheAngryEngineer
only if you still cling to the false notion of optimism.
derock789
Just remember you'll be dead long before it happens... silver lining I guess
MicahL
Ya... Yaaaayyyy?
combustableDaredevil
You must be fun at parties
TheGrayFox
Engage with Zorp.
Zak57TR
You take checks?
humanityBG
HAIL ZORP
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
spooglecraft
Sentinelricce
BlunderbussVigilante
I'd prefer myself some big crunch instead.
programagor
Sorry, the expansion is too fast and gravity too weak for that.
BlunderbussVigilante
Alrighty then. Big rip it is.
franksfiles
Yeah, but can entropy be reversed?
TrumpIsAFelon
Unscramble some eggs and let me know how that goes
IHaveABridgeToSell
Or, like, re-arrange chess pieces that have been thrown on the ground. Impossiburu! Eggs, same thing, just a bit harder to do.
UselessAsFuckMadoka
There is insufficient data for a meaningful answer
IllShowYee
igothtatreference.sad
hyperdistortion
One of the best sci-fi short stories ever written, absolutely love it.
hungrycannibal
Which story is this?
hyperdistortion
"The Last Question", by Isaac Asimov; absolutely brilliant.
FUCKTHISFUCKINGUSERNAMEBULLSHIT
Unless, of course, entropy can be reversed.
Lankinator
THERE IS INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER
Wasindear
Via magical girls turning into witches.
RealScienceMan
Of course super advanced alien race that turned magic girls into witches also got the concept of entropy wrong.
Wasindear
Mayhaps :3
programagor
Are you referring to that Asimov's short story about the computer unable to answer this exact problem
FUCKTHISFUCKINGUSERNAMEBULLSHIT
Yes, Asimov's ' The Last Question ' . I was dumbstruck with it, and did some research.
Jacobusn
...and? keep going please
FUCKTHISFUCKINGUSERNAMEBULLSHIT
I learned some interesting stuff.
BlunderbussVigilante
There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer.