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May they be safe.
Aug 26, 2017 3:52 AM
nukethelizards
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May they be safe.
Annoula
Stay safe people!
Megarith
fuck that, the most important things are your phone, email, and steam passcodes.
johnson21
That Chinese hoax is really well made!
TheGhostOfMistaVaters
Praying for all of you southerners up here in Canada. Hope y'all are safe.
socalwarrior
Everything's bigger in Texas. Duh
dorenavant
Everything is bigger in Texas
DAOWAce
Storms just keep getting worse and worse as time goes on, huh? Almost like the climate is getting worse or something. ...Nah.
C137
Wait...so you're saying China made this hurricane right? That's the only logical conclusion
klappman
Good luck, guys!
donedealjames
Just when form category 4 to 1. I think we are good
nukethelizards
Im surprised no comments about the thumbnail, like, I see boobs in the clouds!
Mrmtndew76
This picture says that is live. But I have been looking for 3 hours and it hasn't moved.
nukethelizards
SwordsToTheSkyWeRideAtDawn
Fuck. Stay safe guys
pdunn32
Trump said good luck everybody, so you've got that going for you.
Markamanic
Even the male hurricanes get better wind speeds now. Where will it end?
JasonAbbadon
Phht. I was in Andrew. That shit was like the great eye of Jupiter and it cleansed our state of mobile homes. Texas has those, I assume.
jbilly90
Thanks that took out a good bit of Homestead where most of my family lived. Hopefully nothing will be that bad again
Itsdarkandhellishot
This will be close unfortunately.
jbilly90
God help them
whovian1986
Glad I'm 400 miles north of that in Dallas
BigDaddyHall
Richardson!
GoodDadJokes
Hey I'm right next door. Ft. Worth
AllYourMemesAreBelongToMeNow
WHY TF DO PEOPLE KEEP LIVING IN THESE PLACES
Itsdarkandhellishot
Because we like it. We pay for it in insurance & if you EVACUATE as told, shit won't be a problem & can be replaced.
LMeire
Literally nowhere on Earth is there a place where you're not at risk of losing your lifestyle to a natural disaster. Why not predictability?
BattleSneeze
Living in Sweden, the biggest natural disaster I can remember is when one tree fell down. In a different city.
Craazyy1
The biggest disaster where I live has been flooded cellars at the harbor lmao, some places are way safer than others.
Craazyy1
For reference, this is not related to the hurricane, this is where I live in norway
JGGennedy
I feel like the northwest, Oregon/Washington, is significantly safer than Louisiana/Texas. We are overdue for an EQ however.
LMeire
Not to mention volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and mudslides.
JGGennedy
In the 16 years I've lived here I don't think we've had a catastrophic amount of any of those, TX/LA has had a lot in the last 16 years :(
LMeire
Again, it's predictability vs. severity. The longer it takes for pressure to build into seismologic activity, the worse it is when it hits.
NiggerEater5000
Harvey's gonna leave a Dent, I guess.
ineedteaformyteagun
Shit that was good!
assgardian
JaegerBombster
Ayyyy
brusselssprouts
biggreencow
bahahahaha nice.
DickGamble
America should hire the Dutch to save New Orleans. We've been kicking the Sea's ass ever since the terrible flood of 1953.
weallservetheoldone
Biggest pissing contest, ever!
MystiqueDawn
I really hate to +1 this, but awareness to my loved ones
HeywoodJablowmie
If they have a massive cleanup like Katrina, count me in
nukethelizards
What would be their "Superdome"?
JakefromStateFarmTx
Jerry world
GoodDadJokes
Probably AT&T stadium
danidactyle
Bucees maybe?
whatareyougoingtodomeow
Slurping on icees and eating jerky
HeywoodJablowmie
Hmm, I suppose it would depend on where the evacuees go
nukethelizards
Well, what are the stadiums in the area?
darkdragonempress
Alamodome or AT&T Center would probably be the options.
nukethelizards
"major" and "social security number number numbers"
cousteau
It was a mayor fail.
braidertom
And yet you still hit front page, also specifically the mayor of Rockport (my hometown)
LaLiam
For you British peeps, its roughly the annual rainfall of Manchester in a week to be expected.
SirSidneyRuffDiamond
32" in a week?? holy shiz balls, good luck!
xiCOURT
Windy as hell here in San Antonio. Any one else have pets that are acting strange?
abrakadumbass
mine and the neighbors floofs are all chill. just started raining a bit ago, been windy for a while tho
Talann1
nah, I tied him up out back...I haven't heard him bark for a bit though.
screamingshits
i'm going to hell for laughing
GrundleFondler
Toto, I believe we aren't in [wherever you live, probably Texas idk] anymore...
Talann1
Kansas
neji7728
Nah my big floof isn't freaked out yet give it another hour or two though lol
seafirezero
it's Texas, they're big enough to handle it
OneZebraInAHerdOfWildebeests
Incidentally, Texas has a pan handle. But I think it's more to not being as swampy as Louisiana and Florida
MrPompaztic361
Damn straight we are
MonsterRooster
Everything's bigger in Texas.
MattDerKomponist
Tell that to Galveston.
MechaRoosevelt
Gawwdamn straight we are!
PnutButterChocolateBarMuthaFucka
The severity of devastation from Katrina had more to do with the level of rain fall rather than the wind speed. 130 mph is no joke doe
warslinger
'Its not THAT the winds are blowin, its WHAT the winds are blowin"
Barrycontrary
Right, cat 4 is definitely not nothing. But the level of rainfall and storm surge will be comparable to fucked levees.
GENTLEMANxJACK713
130 pfft shiddd it made land fall at 150+, Jeff and that Blue Shed took it Head On like a Champ
MealeaYing
It had even more to do with building a fucking city below sea level and building levys out of dirt to hold the water back.
barbwyre59
And it's below sea level maybe ?
lolaluftnagel
Its supposed to sit on top of texas. drop 30 to 40 inches of rain. I live in la we had a 500 yr flood last yr& i dont think we had that much
IndefinetelyTired
Go past Corpus, bounce out to the Gulf, up coast to Houston. Might hit as a Cat 1 here. But this is Houston. Wdgaf.
lolaluftnagel
Yall gettin evacuated yet lol
JakefromStateFarmTx
Y'all were also in a 100yr drought right? J/k I hope your people are right I don't need bragging rights when it comes to natural disasters
lolaluftnagel
La --> louisiana. No drought lol. I was good lol we had a day off work and just drank and played board games. Lots of damage tho. Crazy shit
JakefromStateFarmTx
Shit my bad I thought LA city, not state, but yes y'all were definitely not drought status
Thismanneedsaname
Agree.
ratmagic
The buildings are designed for winds that high. Source windspeed.atcouncil.org
Zergspower
more like the nearly 30ft storm surge that showed up knocking on the MS Coast :)
Itsdarkandhellishot
Rain + Surge + Inadequate levy system + breach + direction of landfall. Wind direction blew the lake back towards the city & overtopped.
tanebou
And they're talking about up to 40inches of rain over the next few days in an area that's already at a high saturation level.
ElbowdeepinElmo
Also depends with what speed the hurricane actually hits land. It may slow down or even speed up further until it reaches the shores.
KiyaSeraphia
Exactly. Look at Isaac in LA few years back. It was only a measly Cat 1 but caused alot of damage cause it just SAT there pissing on us.
KiyaSeraphia
Not to mention that freak ass storm last August that had record breaking floods with entire areas underwater, and it wasn't even a hurricane
JakefromStateFarmTx
15-40 inches in Corpus Christi TX between now and Wednesday, it's the feet below sea level that got the big easy
WARHAMMER405
Looks like Medina lake near San Antonio will get replenished along with aquifer system for their water.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Corpus Christi, Medina, what is this, the promised Land? As a Euro, I find these names odd but fun.
WARHAMMER405
Look up Hamtramck, Ypsilanti, Owosso, Sault Ste. Marie, Muskegon, Ludington, Kincheloe, St. Ignace, and Bad Axe. Those are Michigan cities.
MattMcC980
You forgot hell
WARHAMMER405
My home state of Oklahoma has Beaver, Hooker, Pink, Muskogee, Slaughterville, Broken Arrow, Broken Bow, Medicine Hat, and Cement.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Slaughterville sounds like a fun place.
PnutButterChocolateBarMuthaFucka
Intercourse Pennsylvania anyone?
NipplesTheEnchiIada
Rain? I thought it was the storm surge that broke the levees that was the problem from Katrina?
Thismanneedsaname
That and corrupt politicians. Levee improvement monies were used to underwrite a casino in the French Quarter
Zergspower
Wasn't just New Orleans that got hit by Katrina
Itsdarkandhellishot
Partially.
MountainLionPhoto
"It's not HOW the wind is blowin... It's WHAT the wind is blowin" -Ron White
bpetersen
A relic
cham32
I'm in Houston just north east of where it made land fall and it's not even raining here, but when it does Houston is very flood prone.
iggiemoe
Same. I live just east of Houston on the outskirts, minimal rains and wind. Just playing the waiting game now.
SwearsiesRealsies
Out in Cypress here, it's been on and off all night. Apparently it is supposed to take some crazy turn and hit us in the next couple of days
TotallyNotYourCat
Houston, You have a problem.
sugarfreesucrose
Yup. I am disappointed but also expected this. I wanted chaos and I got sprinkles.
amahler
Southwest beltway here and it's been raining since 4pm yesterday w/o stopping. No flooding yet though
lgwingnut
Careful friend, projected rainfall is in the 60" range since the storm is so slow moving. Stay safe!
JARKB
How did you fair in Houston and Katy?
NiennaWindom
My little sister lives in Houston, I've been worried about her. Aren't you guys supposed to get a lot of rain before it's passed though?
cham32
Yeah we are supposed to get a ton of rain, but so far nothing really. No hard rain. Just consistent.
iggiemoe
Not sure, but rainfall is still pretty minimal where I'm at (east Houston)
amahler
Depends on which part of Houston.
CowsAreAliens
I came to Austin for work yesterday and am staying the weekend due to the weather. When is it safe to head back you think?
cham32
It is sunny with no rain where I am. No flooding. Not even windy.
ilovemynote7itsthebomb
I'm in Kemah area . We still have power . Thank God
cham32
I'm sure y'all being further east helps. Let's hope it stays that way.
ClusteredIndex
Sharpstown here. We've about 1.5" rain since 6AM and my street is already flooded.
Huggitt17
San Antonio can't handle rain either, always seems to be flooding.
cham32
I live in Meyerland just off 610 on the Southwest side. Those of you who know Houston know I'm screwed when that rain does start.
AFIREINCAIRO
I'm right over there too buddy. Fingers are crossed
NiceOneDingus
More importantly, can you still see memes?
wizardslayer
I'm in Kemah area, not much rain or wind.
ProfileNotFound
The fact that you were able to post this amazes me. I figured all of Kemah was underwater by now.
wizardslayer
Area flooded in a matter of hours, had to evacuate last minute
bluemeaniesarecoming
Would be cool if you could make a hurricane post and keep it updated... stay safe.
cham32
Update: flooding is bad now.
BearBombs
According to my map, y'all should be under very heavy rain right now.
cham32
Sunny right now haha
queenofthekcs
I'm in The Heights. We're supposed to be an island by Sunday. It's eerily calm, although we're starting to see some wind and weirdness
Silliosophical
If you have power now & may lose it, make as much coffee as you can now. You'll need it later.
iggiemoe
Holy crap, I did not even think of that. Thanks!!!
queenofthekcs
Good tip!
Xedi22
We almost walked down to the gold brick....but meh, nice rainy night to stay in. Howdy neighbor! :)
queenofthekcs
You still dry? It's getting a bit crazy over here
queenofthekcs
Well hi there!
classicgrinder
Give it a few days. It's the heavy rain over 3-5 days that does it.
queenofthekcs
Yuppers. I grew up in FL on the Atlantic side. The pace of this storm is challenging. Hoping the interwebs hold fast to keep us sane.
ImANurse
In katy, i got to go into work Saturday and camp out for the weekend
queenofthekcs
Be careful! You're a rockstar
bthetrees
So did/do you get overtime?
ImANurse
Double time if we got to stay
bthetrees
Glad to hear that!
IsItWorthReading
Writing numbers on people... Sounds familiar but I can't quite put my finger to it.
bthetrees
Well you know. If we just give everyone a number, we don't have to worry about such silly things as names and individuality.
trasneoir
What's your point?
cousteau
I think it was to make a joke.
CotterPyke
well they're chipping people with RFID chips now, just started doiung that shit, which is evil AF
IsItWorthReading
I didn't even put a chip in my dog because I thought that was going too far. I'm glad we draw the line at humans lol
cousteau
Honestly, chipping your dog is a good way to not lose him/her. Also some places require chip to let pets in (e.g. Madrid subway)
cousteau
Well, not to not lose them, but just in case they're found.
CotterPyke
have i got news for you...https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/technology/microchips-wisconsin-company-employees.html?mcubz=1
IsItWorthReading
Wow! That's crazy
rooik14
I mean if you choose to do it, what's the problem?
CotterPyke
because eventually it'll be a condition of employment. For everybody. This doesnt affect me since im not in the work force. still shocking.
LiBearington
It's Texas, new Orleans keeps getting fucked because it's under sea level and the local government won't buy good equipment.
ThomasThundersword
also. being predominantly black didn’t help vs tex which well....
EwGrooss
Well Houston is below sea level too...
Cattsass
I am pretty sure the Feds spent shit piles of cash to rebuild that shit hole New Orleans
cousteau
Not like the govt can do anything against rising sea levels, right?
13thMortamer
They live in a bowl. I just let it flood and build somewhere else.
eatyourmeat
The levees were rebuilt to the same height
digitalist1
Texas sucked cause our water system is from the original new deal programs
ReallyGoodBee
IIRC, during Katrina, Louisiana rejected a motion to upgrade their levies from I-Wall type barriers to K-type barriers.
ReallyGoodBee
It was later shown that every single I-type levie had failed during the flooding.
porsche12345
So true
MobilizedPants2
Sucks, the pumps are down as well. Doesn't flood to bad in my area, but it might this time because of that.
Ssssssssssss
If you're still in Nawlins after what happened, and it happens again, get the hobo stick and bindle, and get ye walking to higher ground.
memepolice420
And George Bush
SlightlySmallerChungus
Biglebowski748
FrowstyWaffles
We'll part of the reason is they cannot afford it, many of the southern states pay lower taxes than us midwest and northerners, so they 1/2
FrowstyWaffles
just don't have the influx of money to afford infrastructure without the help of the federal government 2/2.
UnderwearThief
Yeah it's too bad taxes are evil and never benefit anyone but the government
TK421isAFK
Prolly spent too much on beads again.
barbwyre59
And built below sea level maybe ?
TK421isAFK
Nah. That's just a myth like global warming and that "round Earth" shit. I know because the politicians told me.
barbwyre59
Beads were an investment in the future at least.
moodytravesty
run by GOPes who only like the fund their own pet projects
TK421isAFK
*All politicians, not just GOP assholes.
moodytravesty
except texas is run by the GOP. this is a fact.
TK421isAFK
And Arkansas was run by the Clintons who helped fuck thousands of people out of their retirement accounts. I'm just saying, leave the 1/2
moodytravesty
and I'm just saying you're trying to correct a fact
TK421isAFK
politics out of it. They're (almost) all a bunch of predatory assholes. 2/2
Sc00ba5teeve
Tinfoil hat: low income areas were allowed to flood to protect wealthier areas and produce development opportunities.
darkdragonempress
I think they fucked up pretty bad then.
pachyderm
hurricanes don't melt steel beams...
doomladen
Low income areas are low income areas because they're vulnerable to flooding, the land is cheaper, and easier to afford with a low income.
maximinusthrax1
shh, you'll ruin his tinfoil hat!
Sc00ba5teeve
I worked so hard on it...
AntiBustatron
Wat? Correlation != causation. I would bet that the property values are not solely driven by susceptibility to flooding.
doomladen
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/opinion/new-orleans-new-flood-maps-an-outline-for-disaster.html
AntiBustatron
+1 for citations
TheRealFireFrenzy
Well they hired the dutch to rebuild all the crap that broke... IF ONLY THERE WAS A COUNTRY THAT DOES NOTHING BUT MANAGE WATER TO LIVE
JGGennedy
The Dutch don't experience tropical storms though D: Ask Singapore how they do it.
Obi2Kenobi
Singapore just has huge stormdrains everywhere
tentaclefriendly
The folks in New Orleans would not build the windmills to power the pumps so the whole thing went to crap
kirbyvictorious
If only....WELP BACK TO BITCHIN ABOUT NOTHING
D3nn1s10
Fun fact, the group of ppl in charge of that management are local elected boards, with some dating their history back to the 13th century.
Gayforbae
But I hate the Dutch.
DerFoxeh
- and people who are intolerant of other people's cultures
TheRealFireFrenzy
But mostly the Dutch...
Gayforbae
Downvotes because people didn't get the joke?
BearForceTwo
downvote because you still said you hate us, joke or no :(
TheRealFireFrenzy
Hell half the fucking country is below sea levels and we haven't had a flood in what? 10-15 years?
tracereading
Hurricanes are generally a coastal threat, though.
dingofdong
In all fairness, you guys don't really have to deal with hurricanes on a regular basis
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dingofdong
Fair point, and I apologise on behalf of Britain... our drunk tourists are embarrassing AF
Somerandomoldguy
Texas isn't below sea level.
whathappensifichangethistext
Texas soil is too hard to absorb large quantities of water in efficient manner.
Virgulesmith
It isn't hard, it soft and sloppy. Our Gumbo soil has a large amount of clay in it, which doesn't absorb the rain.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
"... Yet" - Arthur Curry
TheDudzzly
I hear you can talk to fish
ATalkingMushroom
I thought that said "a unicorn meating a samurai" and was prepared for some weird-ass porn.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
*weird ass porn
rallen9268
But Texas is totally flat
amahler
Lol what? No it's not
rallen9268
It has no mountains. It basically has a flat elevation.
amahler
Yes there are mountains near el Paso. And have you ever heard of the hill country past San Antonio? Giant rolling hills.
rallen9268
I did some research and found there are many of mountain ranges in Texas. So apologies. To clarify, I was referring to the coastal lands.
MerToo
It's about to be.
toimiski
Harvey is bringing the sea level to Texas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SpecimenSpiff
Not with that attitude..
SpitefulRed
*or altitude
jayharrisbb6
That and most people evacuated early.
CraftedLine
Hell, Houston was flooded just a week or two ago! It's always flooding in those areas. This just makes it far worse.
JoeBobBriggs
Houston has shit draining cause it was built on a swamp.
CraftedLine
Nice roads though! Really caught me off guard.
TomAchronos
"Challenge Accepted." -Hurricane Harvey, probably
LucaRyno
New Orleans wasnt the Katrinas fault. That was due to shoddy engineering and lack of levee maintenance.
NukaWorld
Lack? More like near complete disregard. There was plans to raise it, it was disregarded by local gov. 1/2
NukaWorld
2/2 now we say "lets build a higher levee" like every half decade
blowmetwotimes
12 years later & it still floods homes & businesses when it rains more than 1" an hour. A shit show due to the federal $ spent after Katrina
lawideas
And it doesn't have New Orleans, the most drug-addicted, crime-riddled, shitty subculture cities in the nation.
pentagoninformation
Nether is the state of Louisiana
Virgulesmith
Houston. It's not called the Bayou City because we have mountains.
chickensareawesome
And our seawalls and levees are much better in quality and maintenance.
EwGrooss
Houston is below sea level
WaffleDestroyer
im at 100ft above sea level in west houston.
WhatTheDormouseSaid
If any city in this country needed a bath it was New Orleans. Cajun is French and redneck put together, that's a hygiene problem -
bthetrees
Welp, I think you may have lived up to your user name...
YesYouJustLostTheGameAgain
Duuuuude
WhatTheDormouseSaid
That no antiperspirant can tackle!
RedCharlie
Easy brother, New Orleans was the best time of my life!
Tsuhre
- Daniel Tosh (Completely Serious 2007)
YesYouJustLostTheGameAgain
Lol I re read it in his voice.... info pans out
SirBayleaf
Corpus Christi will be atleast 10 ft under. No lie
Wowter99
Jesus Christi that will be nasty!
Itsdarkandhellishot
Likely not. Victoria maybe.
heyoJames
I live in victoria now. I evacuated to austin and am scared of what i might find when i get back. Hoping for the best
highfunctionz
I hope so too for you!
heyoJames
Thank you! My apt was fine thankfully but many of my coworkers werent so lucky. ):
JoeBobBriggs
And more of us are smart enough to get the fuck out. We learned in that lesson in 1900.
Itsdarkandhellishot
I have a feeling more people stayed than should have. Always the case but I think it might be bad. Not Katrina deaths bad, but bad.
kgiraffe
*have the money to get the fuck out. If you're poor as dirt with no car how do you evacuate?
moodytravesty
if you live in houston without a car, you're already dead
JoeBobBriggs
Its called a bus. The state provided them to get ppl out. They did this for Katrina as well but they ignored the warnings.
Imgoingbacktobednow
Parts of it are. Galveston and Port Arthur are two examples. Corpus Christi is right at sea level. Add in storm surges and it's no bueno.
spongebobmingepants
Storm surges arent ment to be as bad as Katrina
braidertom
galveston was before the hurricane of 1915, then they raised the level of the entire city
insaneapples
Well shit. My family lives down there
NotAScriptKiddie
in Corpus and it's ok not too bad of winds and rain. Good amounts of people shit being knocked over and I live near the water.
Zeterai
Wait there's a place in Texas literally called Body of Christ?
ChrisMendez123
Yes. Also keep in mind we were explored by the Spanish
theclockonthewallsaysthreeoclock
Galveston was wiped off the map a long time ago.
CraftedLine
Just got back from Galveston. It's still there. I hope those people by the Moody house are safe!
NotasfunnyasIthinkIam
Hi, I live in Port Arthur! I am home right now.(=
WallpaperProblems
Godspeed
ravstar52
Why?
NotasfunnyasIthinkIam
My grandparents are down the street, still home. So I'm here in case things get hairy. And I'm a first responder. So there's that.
Zella111
Be safe, imgur friend... hope you're doing ok.
Wessmasterflex
RIP nice knowing you. I'll always remember you norasfunnyasithinkiam!
NotasfunnyasIthinkIam
I'm still alive! Lol
OwlicksBee
Somewhat related..I'm from Beaumont. I'm stationed elsewhere currently though. How is it over there?
gibsojac000
Heavy rains expected in Beaumont in just a couple hours. Winds at a sustained 16 mph with gusts of 30. Will probably jump up a good deal
gigem77
Light rain at the moment... Subject to change
DeathStarSpinning
Try to stock up with some essentials, stay away from glass windows or tape them up.
Imgoingbacktobednow
I grew up in Bridge City!
NotasfunnyasIthinkIam
Oh nice! My sister lives there!
gibsojac000
I'm in Beaumont right now. But I live in groves. Hurricane party?
NotasfunnyasIthinkIam
I'm going to Neches River brewery today. I don't have enough booze for a party.
gibsojac000
I would say I'd meet you there, but I'm gonna be on the river non stop til this shit dissapears. Be safe!
Princebabyeater
I work in p.a., youll be glad to know that currently there is breached levee they were trying to fix before all this hurricane happened
NotasfunnyasIthinkIam
Didn't they put those sandbags and metal sheets in yesterday?
gigem77
In Orange here. Home as well
WallpaperProblems
Godspeed
polkadotcardi
Just left Orange Thursday. I'm thinking of you guys. Stay safe.
nukethelizards
Yeah, that a right there was the whole levee thing.
NukaWorld
The levees broke
Legionn
Well the real problem is that the storm made it so there 'wasn't' a whole levee thing anymore...
Counterfit
99% of a levee just isn't going to cut it
Th3H1ghlander
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was...gone?
Th3H1ghlander
...but seriously, stay safe y'all!
Th3H1ghlander
All y'all!
LucaRyno
Also, Katrina didnt make landfall with 125 MPH winds. Insurance companies caused NHC to continually reevaluate the storm so they could 1/2
LucaRyno
pay less money. I was in Biloxi and we had an anemometer rated for 150MPH sustained break at 155. So i have a hard time believing 125.
moodytravesty
"one minute average"
Itsdarkandhellishot
It's plausible that sustained 125 could create gusts to 150. Though, as you know, the US has never seen surge like you got in MS. Just wow.
Itsdarkandhellishot
...since Camille at least.
LucaRyno
Before it broke, it recorded gusts of 175+ and a one min average of 154.8.