Jun 2, 2022 9:25 PM
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TMccl
It'd be a bit more impactful if the party throwing it out wasn't also the one fighting health care, raising wages, and basic improvements.
ALG0RIDDUM
it's mental health.... now watch as I cut funding for mental health lol
djangojazz
I love living the USA how we here how we are the greatest country on earth yet we can never learn from history or other countries.
Chronomechanist
That's an interesting take... "Everyone blames all the problems of this house on it being on fire. That's always the excuse. I'm not putting
These flames out. Find a new, unique cause for your problems. It can't all be because of one thing." - This guy, apparently
PamelaBeeslyHalpert
“It’s a mental health issue” if it’s a white person is the GOPs go-to phrase
ferengilovesongs69
If it were a mental health issue it should be exempt from judicial courtrooms and we should treat these people with medical care not prison
MrPappagiorgioFromYuma
“Brains just don’t work right sometimes. There’s nothing we can do. Can’t prevent, foresee, or plan for it. That’s the prob tho. Bad-brain.”
And prisons are where we put them afterwards. About 40% of federal prisoners have mental conditions coming in. 60% after diagnosing everyone
Zengurian
Feel like it safer to move to mexico :)
CraftyGiant
It's like the old shelters won't take active addicts and addiction is almost unstoppable without housing. "oh well, they 'refuse' help"
coffeeandprozac
Mental health in America is a societal failing, too.
caerulakid
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/most-mass-shooters-are-terrorists-not-mentally-ill
HouseofWolves312
"Y'all mf crazy" is the response to asking for safety and shelter in your own country.
MetaSomma
FREEEEEEEDUUUUUUUUUMB
Deekermanns
In my experience it's more of a "I'm here to protect you from the government, that's why kids have to die!" via Milton Waddams
I'd rather my children survive, or is it just me?
schnoodlefan
Yet cut/decrease funding
hardytardigrade
YES. It's a favored tactic of the right, deliberate or not, to focus on issues and "solutions" that sidestep or remove actual accountability
For example:
For example: racial disparities in crime, education, income/wealth, etc. are due to "culture", without explaining where culture comes from.
Ballunatik
Mental health makes it about the person and not society
katimius
I know we're capable of handling multiple problems at once. I mean, we have so many departments and bureaus...
LWSS246
Anyone remember the "Joker" movie?
Clockworkdancerobot
Worse, people never ask HOW people end up falling that far to have mental health issues that become that bad. Blame all the GOP favorites.
AnotherFailedAttemptAtHumor
That's very well put. Like saying more people need to recycle while only a few companies are causing most of the pollution to our planet.
Yakieg
Mental health would be less of a problem if workers made enough to live.
trippingthelightfantastic
captaingeerex
motoalchemist
another one of reagans failures, eliminating health care
TheDogEnd
You know it's all bullshit deflection when, instead of passing gun control after a mass shooting, they call it a mental health problem but1/
dont pass any law/budget any money to address mental health. Like, even the substitute issue they'd rather deal with they don't deal with2/2
LiterallyLordLucifer
Despite how the noisy partisan politicians make it look, there's actually quite a few overall left leaning people who are still pro-gun 1/2
*and* would absolutely vote for higher taxes to promote mental health care and social programs to keep people from losing their shit.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
All those measures could (and should) be enacted together. But that's theoretical, in reality nothing will be done so it doesn't matter.
bippityboppitybuttsex
See, society is working just fine... it is the people in it that suck.
SirRuppOfFigs
Failing implies trying, which clearly society clearly isn't.
What a lot of people often miss is, when conservatives say 'mental health' they don't mean that like it's an issue to deal with. This is...
...the *core essence* of being a conservative in the first place: mental health problems is just how the world *is*. Nobody should *do*...
...anything about it because no one *can* do anything about it. Children being shot in schools is terrible, but that's *just how things...
...are*. They can't *imagine* society changing, except for the worse, because if they could *they wouldn't be what they are *. That's why...
...they see the left as naive at best and actively malicious at worst btw, because what the left wants they *can't even imagine happening*.
Xecryo
I understand what you mean but I also think it's kinda true. Think of it this way humans as animal are hardwired to survive and our>
cpcgamer
"It's mental health" okay so what are we going to do to fix it? "oh it's just mental health." So are we going to help? "Mental. Health."
Ninjainslippers
"It's just mental health" is a shitty, reductive argument. But "It's just mental health and we're cutting funding" is just blatant bullshit.
alsoAzrael
True. But I think it's also important to notice the general trend of individualizing systemic issues. Another common example is focusing on
"fatherlessness" when discussing african american issues and refusing to engage with the very real systemic issues they face such as the
drug war, overpolicing, racial bias in the court system, bias against hiring people with "black" names, etc. The idea is always to say that
every societal issue is solely the fault of each individual person it impacts and can never be partly society's fault.
flynnman504
It's HOT and It's READY
goochfloss
It’s MENTAL and it’s HEALTH
LunarEntropy
But is it good?
OffendedSkeleton
It’s MENTAL
and it’s HEALTH
ElbowDeepInAJedi
"Thoughts for Mental and Prayers for Health." /s
BeckyLookAtHerButt
Exactly what I was thinking. And praying.
djjeck
We run this country like in Mad Max, and then we're surprised of bad mental health. No safety net makes you crazy.
Erumun
i bet some Top Men are on it. TOP. MEN.
sskyrimjob
There is more access to mental health tx than ever before in this country, but shootings are up. I wonder what else theres more of?
creamyt
This whole POV puts the blame on people with mental health issues. It has nothing to do with helping them or anyone like them. Republicans..
See evil as an inherent property of some people who must simply be identified and stopped. Increasing identifying and stopping is the goal.
I've heard 0 proposed solutions on mental health access. Just upping physical security at schools. It's fucking insane.
“Bad-brain” TM is to blame. Nothing you can do except buy more Guns than everyone. Consume. /s
casketbase
You can't force people to be medicated, though.
pareidoliaperson
This is why I hate over-analysing anyone white. Karens were mentally ill. Kyle is mentally. Mass shooters are MI. Trump is mentally ill...
Gun owners are mentally ill, sad clowns are mentally ill...like wtf? At this point it's not MI, it's assholian society that's relentlessly
fixated on dominance over others. If it's not a outsider, it's the opposite political party. This "mental illness" BS is self serving
bias I've only seen done for white people. I've never heard this for a black Americans for ex! And for what? I even hate the argument that
if Trump is MI he's incompetent. Why is else mention it? It does nothing but ruin mental illness' reputation .?F
tactiletrack
Might I suggest "pat the bunny"
Chromeshack
"It's a mental health issue." So will we do more to destigmatize mental health and increase access to treatment? "No. Just bootstraps."
AregularolPlumbus
No healthcare. Only bootstraps.
LordNergal
Affordable housing, gun control, and establish a mental healthcare system. Boom, problems solved.
Elyodix
No profit for the 1%, not happening. Gotta kill all the rich fucks and their political puppets
hollerfloozy
Hard to do when we have to pay for the bootstraps..
ryukochan
And it takes 6 or 8 months to get fitted for them.
And if you have insurance it won't cover them because they aren't considered necessary.
TMccl
It'd be a bit more impactful if the party throwing it out wasn't also the one fighting health care, raising wages, and basic improvements.
ALG0RIDDUM
it's mental health.... now watch as I cut funding for mental health lol
djangojazz
I love living the USA how we here how we are the greatest country on earth yet we can never learn from history or other countries.
Chronomechanist
That's an interesting take... "Everyone blames all the problems of this house on it being on fire. That's always the excuse. I'm not putting
Chronomechanist
These flames out. Find a new, unique cause for your problems. It can't all be because of one thing." - This guy, apparently
PamelaBeeslyHalpert
“It’s a mental health issue” if it’s a white person is the GOPs go-to phrase
ferengilovesongs69
If it were a mental health issue it should be exempt from judicial courtrooms and we should treat these people with medical care not prison
MrPappagiorgioFromYuma
“Brains just don’t work right sometimes. There’s nothing we can do. Can’t prevent, foresee, or plan for it. That’s the prob tho. Bad-brain.”
ferengilovesongs69
And prisons are where we put them afterwards. About 40% of federal prisoners have mental conditions coming in. 60% after diagnosing everyone
Zengurian
Feel like it safer to move to mexico :)
CraftyGiant
It's like the old shelters won't take active addicts and addiction is almost unstoppable without housing. "oh well, they 'refuse' help"
coffeeandprozac
Mental health in America is a societal failing, too.
caerulakid
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/most-mass-shooters-are-terrorists-not-mentally-ill
HouseofWolves312
"Y'all mf crazy" is the response to asking for safety and shelter in your own country.
MetaSomma
FREEEEEEEDUUUUUUUUUMB
Deekermanns
In my experience it's more of a "I'm here to protect you from the government, that's why kids have to die!" via Milton Waddams
HouseofWolves312
I'd rather my children survive, or is it just me?
schnoodlefan
Yet cut/decrease funding
hardytardigrade
YES. It's a favored tactic of the right, deliberate or not, to focus on issues and "solutions" that sidestep or remove actual accountability
hardytardigrade
For example:
hardytardigrade
For example: racial disparities in crime, education, income/wealth, etc. are due to "culture", without explaining where culture comes from.
Ballunatik
Mental health makes it about the person and not society
katimius
I know we're capable of handling multiple problems at once. I mean, we have so many departments and bureaus...
LWSS246
Anyone remember the "Joker" movie?
Clockworkdancerobot
Worse, people never ask HOW people end up falling that far to have mental health issues that become that bad. Blame all the GOP favorites.
AnotherFailedAttemptAtHumor
That's very well put. Like saying more people need to recycle while only a few companies are causing most of the pollution to our planet.
Yakieg
Mental health would be less of a problem if workers made enough to live.
trippingthelightfantastic
captaingeerex
motoalchemist
another one of reagans failures, eliminating health care
TheDogEnd
You know it's all bullshit deflection when, instead of passing gun control after a mass shooting, they call it a mental health problem but1/
TheDogEnd
dont pass any law/budget any money to address mental health. Like, even the substitute issue they'd rather deal with they don't deal with2/2
LiterallyLordLucifer
Despite how the noisy partisan politicians make it look, there's actually quite a few overall left leaning people who are still pro-gun 1/2
LiterallyLordLucifer
*and* would absolutely vote for higher taxes to promote mental health care and social programs to keep people from losing their shit.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
All those measures could (and should) be enacted together. But that's theoretical, in reality nothing will be done so it doesn't matter.
bippityboppitybuttsex
See, society is working just fine... it is the people in it that suck.
SirRuppOfFigs
Failing implies trying, which clearly society clearly isn't.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
What a lot of people often miss is, when conservatives say 'mental health' they don't mean that like it's an issue to deal with. This is...
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
...the *core essence* of being a conservative in the first place: mental health problems is just how the world *is*. Nobody should *do*...
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
...anything about it because no one *can* do anything about it. Children being shot in schools is terrible, but that's *just how things...
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
...are*. They can't *imagine* society changing, except for the worse, because if they could *they wouldn't be what they are *. That's why...
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
...they see the left as naive at best and actively malicious at worst btw, because what the left wants they *can't even imagine happening*.
Xecryo
I understand what you mean but I also think it's kinda true. Think of it this way humans as animal are hardwired to survive and our>
Xecryo
Xecryo
Xecryo
Xecryo
Xecryo
cpcgamer
"It's mental health" okay so what are we going to do to fix it? "oh it's just mental health." So are we going to help? "Mental. Health."
Ninjainslippers
"It's just mental health" is a shitty, reductive argument. But "It's just mental health and we're cutting funding" is just blatant bullshit.
alsoAzrael
True. But I think it's also important to notice the general trend of individualizing systemic issues. Another common example is focusing on
alsoAzrael
"fatherlessness" when discussing african american issues and refusing to engage with the very real systemic issues they face such as the
alsoAzrael
drug war, overpolicing, racial bias in the court system, bias against hiring people with "black" names, etc. The idea is always to say that
alsoAzrael
every societal issue is solely the fault of each individual person it impacts and can never be partly society's fault.
flynnman504
It's HOT and It's READY
goochfloss
It’s MENTAL and it’s HEALTH
LunarEntropy
But is it good?
OffendedSkeleton
It’s MENTAL
goochfloss
and it’s HEALTH
ElbowDeepInAJedi
"Thoughts for Mental and Prayers for Health." /s
BeckyLookAtHerButt
Exactly what I was thinking. And praying.
djjeck
We run this country like in Mad Max, and then we're surprised of bad mental health. No safety net makes you crazy.
Erumun
i bet some Top Men are on it. TOP. MEN.
sskyrimjob
There is more access to mental health tx than ever before in this country, but shootings are up. I wonder what else theres more of?
creamyt
This whole POV puts the blame on people with mental health issues. It has nothing to do with helping them or anyone like them. Republicans..
creamyt
See evil as an inherent property of some people who must simply be identified and stopped. Increasing identifying and stopping is the goal.
creamyt
I've heard 0 proposed solutions on mental health access. Just upping physical security at schools. It's fucking insane.
MrPappagiorgioFromYuma
“Bad-brain” TM is to blame. Nothing you can do except buy more Guns than everyone. Consume. /s
casketbase
You can't force people to be medicated, though.
pareidoliaperson
This is why I hate over-analysing anyone white. Karens were mentally ill. Kyle is mentally. Mass shooters are MI. Trump is mentally ill...
pareidoliaperson
Gun owners are mentally ill, sad clowns are mentally ill...like wtf? At this point it's not MI, it's assholian society that's relentlessly
pareidoliaperson
fixated on dominance over others. If it's not a outsider, it's the opposite political party. This "mental illness" BS is self serving
pareidoliaperson
bias I've only seen done for white people. I've never heard this for a black Americans for ex! And for what? I even hate the argument that
pareidoliaperson
if Trump is MI he's incompetent. Why is else mention it? It does nothing but ruin mental illness' reputation .?F
tactiletrack
Might I suggest "pat the bunny"
Chromeshack
"It's a mental health issue." So will we do more to destigmatize mental health and increase access to treatment? "No. Just bootstraps."
AregularolPlumbus
No healthcare. Only bootstraps.
LordNergal
Affordable housing, gun control, and establish a mental healthcare system. Boom, problems solved.
Elyodix
No profit for the 1%, not happening. Gotta kill all the rich fucks and their political puppets
hollerfloozy
Hard to do when we have to pay for the bootstraps..
ryukochan
And it takes 6 or 8 months to get fitted for them.
Chromeshack
And if you have insurance it won't cover them because they aren't considered necessary.