Thund3rbolt
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Apr 23, 2019 1:03 AM
Thund3rbolt
110839
2952
45
With Sound: https://streamable.com/pxc8c
Crocadiah
Stairstepping is a no no and nails are supposed to 6 to 8 inches. Pro
rebelhead
Lower back loves him
BarfingMonkey2
He's done this before.
FilthyRaider
He clearly doesn't charge by the hour.
CaspianQuix
Yer a fuckin animal, Chip.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
I keep seeing a stair-step pattern that I would HATE noticing as the homeowner.
aristera
Honestly, once you fill a room with your shit, you don't even see a floor anymore.
therealamh
SOMEBODY’S not getting payed by the hour...
DeepInYourThroat2
itsrandomright
Wait what happens when he gets to the wall? Asking for a friend.
zhanson2
The pieces get cut and face nailed. The nails will be covered up with trim.
MrHailstone
My brother did flooring for 15 years. thats a weird way to lay a hardwood floor.
FlyNaked
Harbor Freight $50 flooring nailers are the bomb. I did 2,000 feet and it prolly worked as well as the Bostich for $300.
prawnklng
As a person from the uk , I love my porta nailer. Can appreciate American technology
RackhamTheRed
Around 186 m^2. For people in the rest of the world wondering.
ZebulonMuthafuckingPike
My back hurts just looking at this
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
My back hurts.*
richcres
Completely ignored the stair step patterns in the floor, amateur installation.
MrNecrophile
Lol @ downvotes from idiots.
prawnklng
Yes. It’s looks horrible. When people come round they question if it’s laminate. Should always avoid patterns
tiderfish
So this isn’t a floating floor? What about the woods expansion?
CanuckleheadCan
Biggest concern is humidity, I believe.
ConsumingHate
Most actual wood floors at one time didn't float, they attached to some version of a sub-floor by glue or a fastener.
RackhamTheRed
The boards are nailed to a sort of 2nd wooden floor below it, so it behaves more like a big single piece (and you have some room to the wall
noodledude89
Finished in place hardwood floor. It’s more dependent on a solid subfloor to nail to. Shouldn’t move too much.
trapperjohnmd
Well obviously not he’s clearly stapling it down. It’s a real hardwood floor they don’t “float”. But they do cut them short of the wall.
primm141
I never had an air nailer. Gawd I was tired after days laying flooring.
chinakat
Why are there little gouges in the boards?
trapperjohnmd
The pencil/ crayon marks on the same end and all pointing in the same direction on every board?...He put them there to lay it out quicker.
zhanson2
Lumber mills will mark quality pieces with little marks like that.
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
^^what they said. Marks are removed when the floor is buffed and polished
B44a
Perfect. Now you can put linoleum on it.
IllTryToKeepItInteresting
Hackkkk, stair stepper like a mother. -1
Jtwgeek
As someone who laid floors for twelve years? That's a lot of nails.
Bystandr
Shouldn't have 4 in a row stepping like that with small overlaps. It's a weak point now. Stagger at least after 2 in a row.
letthefuturebegin
Wanted to hear the “thuck, thuck, thuck”
OriginalWhitey
This makes the question the amount of nails I’ve used
saturos01
You did it right. ~8" is what most manufacturers recommend.
HoweJ
... Why is this so satisfying to watch...?
SometimesIBuildThings
Watching someone do their job well is great.
MericanFunkYeah
Just enjoying a good looking dude skillfully beating some wood like the good lord intended. Hard to not be satisfied
Tortillaboy1
DefinitelyNotABear1st
I make hardwood flooring for a living so it's cool to see this step in the process.
RoboGirlSyd
I find it unnerving, like he could easily make a mistake :/
HoweJ
Understandable, and he probably did in the past. Comes with mastering anything, really.
moecurlylarry
Seems like too many nails
noodledude89
Nope.
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
Wrong. Too many by far.
nolanurse
This guy still working? He was laying carpet an hour ago.
RtsWillH1Mself
He'll be laying pipe tonight with work ethic like that.
Gayforbae
Krackajak78
Hell be laying your mum next
VictorTheViking86
Mom
losCHUNK
Well they both getting smashed.
poets
The 2 downvoters on this are that guy and his dad
Strayan101
3 now... must of told his brother.
OffendedSkeleton
maincarrot
I would not want him to install my floors.... I get that he's quick and doing that particular thing well, but I don't like it.
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
You would be smart not to hire him. Step pattern is a cardinal sin and he's WAYY over nailing. Makes next install more expensive, labour $$
maincarrot
Do you know if over or under nailing contributes to squeaky floors?
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
Under could but he could EASILY use 1/2 or 1/3 and not have a squeak. Subfloor is more important in that regard
taxiviolence
i think the squeak is more to do with the floor underneath. i don't think the nails are the issue.
maincarrot
Good to know. I feel like 2-3 nails is plenty. Nails are only to prevent sliding apart I assume? I also don't like he's not tapping the ends
saturos01
Agreed, not getting the edges butted up nice and tight is really bothering me. About every 8" is what most manufacturers say, so it's high
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
Not tapping the ends is also a huge mistake here. +1
maincarrot
Thank you! I like floors that don't have gaps. I do sometimes wonder if Im being needlessly picky, or if there's ever a good reason for it.
MFKG
Lotta too many nails comments from people who dont lay floors
Gonetogetsomemilk
jhawker27
"Y'all talk a lot of shit for someone within educating range."
maststick
You have no idea what you’re talking about. If he’s laying it snug, he needs half that many. I hope he has enough varnish to fill the gaps
cvc1228
And way too many damn gaps. I’d demand a do over.
pdxenburg
We demo floors, and the number of nails is too damn high!
Jtwgeek
As someone who laid floors for over 12 years? That's too many nails.
IllTryToKeepItInteresting
NWFA nail pattern is 2" from the ends 4-6" in the field.
WestonsCat
I don’t lay floors. I’m seeing about 4/5 nails per board? Is that too many then and how many should it be?
saturos01
About every 8" is what most manufacturers recommend.
Jtwgeek
Typically you'd do three per board. One in the center and one towards each end. He's doing 5 nails per board. Which is serious overkill.
WestonsCat
Fair one. And that would keep the squeaks at bay? I assume you’d want a bit of movement? Too tight and it would pop I also assume??
Jtwgeek
So if your flooring is composite like that? Where it's layered and slots together like that? It shouldn't squeak. Also nail down flooring 1/
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
Hi, professional here. Too many nails and shit, lazy pattern. You should try knowing what you're talking about before you do it next time :)
whyWontKeiraKnightleyReturnMyPhoneCalls
too many nails is debatable (probably) but the lazy, shit pattern could be what was requested. not everyone wants herringbone or whatever.
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
He could half the nails, its a matter of courtesy for the people in the future that get to tear that out. That pattern makes it weaker
vegivamp
No. This is lazy shit because they've not bothered to randomise the edges. Nothing to do with fancy patterns like herringbone.
Agouti
Could you elaborate on randomising edges? Not being sassy just want to be educated.
vegivamp
Don't just use the last piece of the previous row to start the next - it'll create a predictable pattern that looks like a staircase. You
155DangerClose
I installed floors and this is the lazy way of installing. The design will look like a staircase when he's done.
bigbootybigfoot
Is 1 3/4" flooring so hard to find nowadays because installation is so labor intensive?
saturos01
2 1/4" is the thinnest most places sell.
155DangerClose
I've done it a few times. It's mostly just style, wide boards are in. That being said the thinner stuff is a bit more time consuming
applebee71121
My first thought.
DonkeyEsq
Looks to me like he isn't leaving enough gap to allow for expansion either. Cupped boards are shit.
155DangerClose
You don't want to leave any gaps between the boards, only gap you leave is a 1/4" at the wall
taxiviolence
that's what i was thinking. seems like a rushed half ass job. done quick and not well means you take longer doing it again
Monfreid
Yep. One rainy winter, and this room is going to look like a skate-park...
bastardcoveredbastards
Are they paying you by the nail?
ToasterDent
Ain't nobody want squeaky floors!
Mexicopter
Squeaky floors come from the plywood below the floor so It should be screwed before the floor goes down.
tonypotsandpans
And subfloor adhesive makes a huge difference
ToasterDent
Then take out the top floor and screw it all up (errr, I mean down)!
dlarrydlarry
In a way... You pay extra for someone who isn't going to scrimp and who does the job right there first time
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
It's not done right. Pattern is shit and more nails does not equal a better installation
WeAreTheFortunate
This. I was watching it thinking those joints are too close together
thisspecieshasamuzeditselftodeath
More nails doesnt mean its better.
evilpsych
In this case it kinda does. Even spacing for nails means less chance of squeak
Trentski
Mouse says squeak and fish goes blub, blub, blub. What does the fox say?
DoABarrelRoll1
3000 nails to do 920 sq feet at my house and no squeaks. 5" read oak
lollercycle
as someone who did this for years the squeak won't come from a lack of nails, 3 nails or 50 won't change the fact he's leaving too much give
ConsumingHate
The joys of speedy installs? Whats your guess, guest room or rental?
RtsWillH1Mself
Love me some butterfly scrimp.
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
Some tasty scrimp cocktail
DustyMcKnuckles
Scrimp gumbo
AlaskanMatt
Baked scrimp
JPandhismightypotato
Impressive but not by the book from an install standpoint.
Bonchoman
Agreed, makes me cringe.
getitupinyou
Amen, dude puts a zipper joint running right through the middle of the room. Not food but fun to watch.
frolog
Yeah I'd get killed if I did that crap lol
cinderspires
what book?
laDisparitionDesHeures
The. Book
Bonchoman
Written by They Say.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
Well, who's "They?"
WellThatsOriginal
Everyone has their own method. And this dude isn't a rookie
155DangerClose
he IS a rookie or he's a lazy/cheap hire. Staircase seams are ugly as fuck. Dudes putting 3 foot boards in the middle of a room
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
This is a rookie method. It's absolutely a shit install
SherMattLockSmith
Just because someone isn't a rookie doesn't mean they have ingrained really bad habits in their work. My father is a mechanic, I have had1/2
SherMattLockSmith
*Doesn't mean they haven't ingrained really bad habits, sorry.
SherMattLockSmith
2/2 The hardest time explaining that he cannot keep an open bottle of deionized water on the shelf for use in batteries. I explain to him...
SherMattLockSmith
..What will happen if he does, and he says "oh, all my other mechanic friends just say that's what happens with batteries"....
SherMattLockSmith
...Well yea, that is what happens when mechanics do not understand chemistry and contaminate deionized water.