Dec 3, 2020 4:07 AM
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RipOffTheBandAid
'Float testing'
Evo435
Navy ship captains literally get paid extra to cover these kinds of fines.
EpilatorAlligatorBothReduceGrowth
Meanwhile us decent (well, sort of), normal (sort of, people rinse tins and plastic, and buy metal straws. The fuck navy. Clean it up.
nonCanadianGoose
Who the fuck is going to fine a vessel armed like a US naval ship?
TheFeralDog
Japanese planes
melmboundanddown
The EPA?
qtRaven
A bigger US naval ship.
swedeonamoose
the dreaded USS FED and USS IRS
BrazilianThunderPanda
It was Carnival Corporation’s subsidiary line Princess Cruises in 2019 in the Bahama.
zombywoof68
For the last time, it's not "trash". They're called Marines!
serpentinebaboo
Deserves an even bigger fine.
morganfreemanslarynx
Night-ops!
loser9999
Just to be clear they were fined for doing it too close to land... They don't care if you do it away from land
OhNoNotThatGuyQuickEverybodyHide
I was a Marine aboard the USS Comstock on my way to Iraq and worked in the mess hall. Yes I threw garbage overboard, but it was food waste.
VinnyVeritas
If it was caught dumping litter AGAIN... then obviously $20M is not a large enough fine to correct the behavior
AesirBiker
Those mini-fridges and desks give fish homes. I mean hell we sink our ships to make reefs.
StickieVickie
Aktrazer
There's also a difference between waste and dunnage.
Y'all know that was sarcasm right? On the big ships we make disks and stuff. Not that I want to work in that shop.
dudeinjapan
Sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms. Sweep down all sections fire and aft. Throw all trash clear of the fantail. Now, sweepers.
TsubakiTragic
Those cruise ships always remind me of live sheep/cattle carriers.
gaspodethedog
The law leaves an exemption for the Navy...
jaywt1690101
Gash bag detail fucking hated it you stank for days
skumocomics
My only problem with the Navy is how much flippin money they spend... Don't get me wrong I get why it's just 168.8 billion a year..
Brejj
The fines are cheaper than the cost of breaking down/recycling the fuel/rubbish -they dump it and pay the fine.
gekkepoes
Harbors ask $1 a kilogram processing your waste.
PhailRaptor
If the penalty is a fine, then that's just the cost of doing the thing
NotABadLookingNarcissist
The downside of regulation. We need harsher penalties for this shit. “Do it again and we’ll take over your company - give it to the workers”
CptRobotNinja
Its not illegal. It costs 20 million dollars. Which is far less that proper disposal sooooo
camn333
And that's assuming they get caught.
HighSorcerer
Probably a lot less when it's divided between all the times they didn't get caught doing it.
Marsupialmessiah
Why not call it a disposal surcharge? They will just tack on an extra $50 to the tix price. These should go out of business
WackyTicTacCasualty
seent?
pokebug666
red580
Wait, Americans have carnivals ON boats?!
SpartaWolf117
what’s the government gonna do? fine itself?
VarlenSantongkum
Well yeah? Well not exactly itself but if some branch/ agency / etc. breaks rules and regulations they can be fined.
R0barch
defund the navy
TheFallenTwo
"Hey Army, pay this fine." "Ok, here you go." "Hey Army, we have some more funding for you, have the money from this fine." "Thanks."
The important question, was it International waters?
asanaustralianwhyareyourpostsupsidedown
/sail up to a destroyer and ask for cash?
jerwelch66
Confused please explain?
tesseract4d2
Captain of the ship is directly responsible for enforcement of EPA regulations on a ship. They get fined personally.
Our ship's captains had a rolling fund for fines, they turned it over to the next cap during change of command. A destroyer on a long
Underway only has so much space to store trash, we got extended 6 times in 2013 during the Syria chemical weapons fiasco. Had to dump a lot
Of plastic we simply didn't have space to store safely. At some point it becomes a health risk to the crew and inhibits
Operational readiness and morale.
85TA406
I used to see the EPA fine the Army all the time, mostly for minor spills/stained concrete, easy money, no legal battles.
somnif
Tons of old military bases are Superfund sites now, too. We have a few here in my area, ground so saturated with fuel dumps it's unusable.
AnythingMuchShorter
Well the military is so overfunded these days they're looking for anywhere to dump money they can, except into paying the troops more.
jerkittoanything
Maybe if your bitchass was a bomb you'd be worth something. Either a half million or a brown kids skeleton, or both.
leaderofthedamned
Ah, what's the opposite of a fun fact?
BrodahCrispy
Navy: Its a time honored tradition!
DSREX
All bags had to have holes poked in them so they would sink, too many Man Over Boards to rescue trash happened.
ThisFireGrowsHigher
Bilge is not trash! It's fecal matter and oily water!
PrincessDaystar
I think they mean all the other stuff that happens to find its way overboard in the middle of the night.
The cigarette buds? Those are biodegradable and fish love the smooth flavor.
Subtilico
So is burning witches.
FleetingExplative
How do you know she's a witch?
Wasn't it something with having a woody?
SamuthNBS
Not that far away from being reintroduced
TheMayo16
No witches were ever burned, they were all hanged, drowned, or burried alive
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
What? No. They definitely burned suspected witches.
There was only ever like 40ish convicted and sentenced
"We do not know the exact number, but modern conservative scholars estimate around 40,000–50,000." And that's conservatively
Can you please find me a source for that?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_for_witchcraft&ved=2ahUKEwjInK6
Literally the top Google results for witchcraft burning at stake will get various sources
Carnival CEO after learning the company has to pay another fine:
TheS4ndm4n
All modern navy ships have waste storage space and tanks. You don't want to piss off other countries in peacetime.
cakeisprettygood
Meanwhile in literally anything america does
TinyOctopus
As a former squid, tiny octopus points out that this storage is for when you're inside territorial waters (inside 12 nm off the coast). When
the ship crosses into international waters? Sewage goes out, biodegradables go overboard, and the odd "night dump" happens as well.
Last few ships I worked on had a sewage treatment plant. Clean water overboard and "black water" sludge stored in tanks until port call.
Granted, these were coastguard. So they spend most of their time in territorial waters.
EdwardJobbyHands
I saw they have plasma rays that break down some trash into dust too. It might have been a dream
RipOffTheBandAid
'Float testing'
Evo435
Navy ship captains literally get paid extra to cover these kinds of fines.
EpilatorAlligatorBothReduceGrowth
Meanwhile us decent (well, sort of), normal (sort of, people rinse tins and plastic, and buy metal straws. The fuck navy. Clean it up.
nonCanadianGoose
Who the fuck is going to fine a vessel armed like a US naval ship?
TheFeralDog
Japanese planes
melmboundanddown
The EPA?
qtRaven
A bigger US naval ship.
swedeonamoose
the dreaded USS FED and USS IRS
BrazilianThunderPanda
It was Carnival Corporation’s subsidiary line Princess Cruises in 2019 in the Bahama.
zombywoof68
For the last time, it's not "trash". They're called Marines!
serpentinebaboo
Deserves an even bigger fine.
morganfreemanslarynx
Night-ops!
loser9999
Just to be clear they were fined for doing it too close to land... They don't care if you do it away from land
OhNoNotThatGuyQuickEverybodyHide
I was a Marine aboard the USS Comstock on my way to Iraq and worked in the mess hall. Yes I threw garbage overboard, but it was food waste.
VinnyVeritas
If it was caught dumping litter AGAIN... then obviously $20M is not a large enough fine to correct the behavior
AesirBiker
Those mini-fridges and desks give fish homes. I mean hell we sink our ships to make reefs.
StickieVickie
Aktrazer
There's also a difference between waste and dunnage.
AesirBiker
Y'all know that was sarcasm right? On the big ships we make disks and stuff. Not that I want to work in that shop.
dudeinjapan
Sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms. Sweep down all sections fire and aft. Throw all trash clear of the fantail. Now, sweepers.
TsubakiTragic
Those cruise ships always remind me of live sheep/cattle carriers.
gaspodethedog
The law leaves an exemption for the Navy...
jaywt1690101
Gash bag detail fucking hated it you stank for days
skumocomics
My only problem with the Navy is how much flippin money they spend... Don't get me wrong I get why it's just 168.8 billion a year..
Brejj
The fines are cheaper than the cost of breaking down/recycling the fuel/rubbish -they dump it and pay the fine.
gekkepoes
Harbors ask $1 a kilogram processing your waste.
PhailRaptor
If the penalty is a fine, then that's just the cost of doing the thing
NotABadLookingNarcissist
The downside of regulation. We need harsher penalties for this shit. “Do it again and we’ll take over your company - give it to the workers”
CptRobotNinja
Its not illegal. It costs 20 million dollars. Which is far less that proper disposal sooooo
camn333
And that's assuming they get caught.
HighSorcerer
Probably a lot less when it's divided between all the times they didn't get caught doing it.
Marsupialmessiah
Why not call it a disposal surcharge? They will just tack on an extra $50 to the tix price. These should go out of business
WackyTicTacCasualty
seent?
pokebug666
red580
Wait, Americans have carnivals ON boats?!
SpartaWolf117
what’s the government gonna do? fine itself?
VarlenSantongkum
Well yeah? Well not exactly itself but if some branch/ agency / etc. breaks rules and regulations they can be fined.
R0barch
defund the navy
TheFallenTwo
"Hey Army, pay this fine." "Ok, here you go." "Hey Army, we have some more funding for you, have the money from this fine." "Thanks."
AesirBiker
The important question, was it International waters?
asanaustralianwhyareyourpostsupsidedown
/sail up to a destroyer and ask for cash?
jerwelch66
Confused please explain?
tesseract4d2
Captain of the ship is directly responsible for enforcement of EPA regulations on a ship. They get fined personally.
tesseract4d2
Our ship's captains had a rolling fund for fines, they turned it over to the next cap during change of command. A destroyer on a long
tesseract4d2
Underway only has so much space to store trash, we got extended 6 times in 2013 during the Syria chemical weapons fiasco. Had to dump a lot
tesseract4d2
Of plastic we simply didn't have space to store safely. At some point it becomes a health risk to the crew and inhibits
tesseract4d2
Operational readiness and morale.
85TA406
I used to see the EPA fine the Army all the time, mostly for minor spills/stained concrete, easy money, no legal battles.
somnif
Tons of old military bases are Superfund sites now, too. We have a few here in my area, ground so saturated with fuel dumps it's unusable.
AnythingMuchShorter
Well the military is so overfunded these days they're looking for anywhere to dump money they can, except into paying the troops more.
jerkittoanything
Maybe if your bitchass was a bomb you'd be worth something. Either a half million or a brown kids skeleton, or both.
leaderofthedamned
Ah, what's the opposite of a fun fact?
BrodahCrispy
Navy: Its a time honored tradition!
DSREX
All bags had to have holes poked in them so they would sink, too many Man Over Boards to rescue trash happened.
ThisFireGrowsHigher
Bilge is not trash! It's fecal matter and oily water!
PrincessDaystar
I think they mean all the other stuff that happens to find its way overboard in the middle of the night.
ThisFireGrowsHigher
The cigarette buds? Those are biodegradable and fish love the smooth flavor.
Subtilico
So is burning witches.
FleetingExplative
How do you know she's a witch?
Subtilico
Wasn't it something with having a woody?
SamuthNBS
Not that far away from being reintroduced
TheMayo16
No witches were ever burned, they were all hanged, drowned, or burried alive
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
What? No. They definitely burned suspected witches.
TheMayo16
There was only ever like 40ish convicted and sentenced
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
"We do not know the exact number, but modern conservative scholars estimate around 40,000–50,000." And that's conservatively
TheMayo16
Can you please find me a source for that?
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_for_witchcraft&ved=2ahUKEwjInK6
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
Literally the top Google results for witchcraft burning at stake will get various sources
HighSorcerer
Carnival CEO after learning the company has to pay another fine:
TheS4ndm4n
All modern navy ships have waste storage space and tanks. You don't want to piss off other countries in peacetime.
cakeisprettygood
Meanwhile in literally anything america does
TinyOctopus
As a former squid, tiny octopus points out that this storage is for when you're inside territorial waters (inside 12 nm off the coast). When
TinyOctopus
the ship crosses into international waters? Sewage goes out, biodegradables go overboard, and the odd "night dump" happens as well.
TheS4ndm4n
Last few ships I worked on had a sewage treatment plant. Clean water overboard and "black water" sludge stored in tanks until port call.
TheS4ndm4n
Granted, these were coastguard. So they spend most of their time in territorial waters.
EdwardJobbyHands
I saw they have plasma rays that break down some trash into dust too. It might have been a dream