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this'd cause suicide in and of itself
Aug 20, 2019 12:31 AM
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Agisek
I mean that bill would just drive me to kill myself, that's 3 months pay for me
isetprettygirlsonfire
Should have just went with hookers and blow.
killbrutus
Haaaa. Mine was $10k AFTER they took $4k off. Whatever, I guess. It's so rad being buried in the debt of medical and student loans.
AMeanOldMan
I'd become even more suicidal if I got that bill.
gronterrino
I had to spend 10 months in hospital with a condition that is fully subsidised by the government. My country is far, FAR from perfect, but >
gronterrino
> if i had to pay even $100 per day, i would have been fucked.
beelzebewbs
Nobody should have to pay a premium for healthcare. Your shit is way out of proportion in the glorious US of A...
jodelijodela
It’s expensive to be unhealthy in the US. I am quiet happy to live in Europe.
nukethelizards
SSDI for PTSD/agoraphobia here. Hospital release plan was a service dog. $8-12k out of pocket, with disability discount. That was a year ago
minipancho94
as a medical professional, if you cant pay it, dont. dont let it stop you from getting help. not like your credit will matter if you die.
kyzentun
Delay payment until they fix the spelling mistake. It's an error in a legal document.
YouExpectedAUsernameButItWasMeDio
You're a god damn idiot.
Troillort
It's not a legal document. Just an notice of what's owed.
ggccuser9
Even if it were a legal doc (which it’s not) the typo is not material and thus doesn’t matter, still enforceable
Imalwaysready
Wow. That's some SERIOUSLY erroneous and bad advice...
cmac66
I feel so bad for Americans.
killbrutus
Haaaa. Mine was $10k. Whatever, I guess. Like being buried in medical and student loan debt/bad credit isn't a contributor to depression.
EranL
Lmao imagine having to pay for a hospital visit
naytorin
Truly a nightmarish scenario.
TomAceTwooo
Technically you do pay for it. Whatever country you are from, you are paying it out of your taxes. Which is totally fine by me... 1/
wombleton
Governments negotiate far, far better deals than you do.
TomAceTwooo
I'd rather do it incrementally over my lifetime and never have to rack up a $45K+ bill for one or two serious issues.
INeverCheckTheUserNames
I am 40 years old European and I am pretty sure I have gotten more "free stuff" than I have paid in taxes during my lifetime.
TomAceTwooo
Sure... that's the idea. Done incrementally, on every paycheck you ever get. It's perfect. Better than having to pay for one large lump sum
NewDemosthenes
Hospital costs don’t make any sense at all. Are they buying $20,000 toilets?? Someone’s padding the walls with $$$
Mithi
They are padding the coffers of the shareholders.
minipancho94
because big pharma has lobbied that special toliets need to be installed. also losses from people who cant pay. the 3k bill is mostly 1/2
minipancho94
there for the hospital to recoup its losses from a handful of previous patients who couldnt pay, while big pharma/insurance makes bank 2/2
koopakrusher16
Everything is inflated. Even dumb crap that has no medical purpose but is needed in a hospital, like bins, are outrageously priced
vonKaiser
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2013/08/27/the-secret-of-salines-cost-why-a-1-bag-can-cost-700
BeesKneesJohanson
I should just get a bracelet with the directive “In case an ambulance is necessary, just let me die”
Shadoweclipse13
"DNR" (do not resuscitate).
VesselOfHate
You need a real-ass legal document for that to count, though. If you just get dnr tattooed across your chest they'll ignore it.
Shadoweclipse13
I never said to get it tattooed.
VesselOfHate
No, but some guy did that. That's the precedent.
Eekangorf
I seem to remember a story about a suicidal dude that spent a bunch of money on hookers and blow and decided he didn't want to die anymore..
UncleB0b
thepuppeteer777
What the hell. That looks like something that will just promote suicide not help
ProfessorPoopyButthole
Shit my one night stay for an appendectomy billed out at $98k before insurance.
adamrac
Stayed in the hospital for 36 hours for a heart attack, had angioplasty, bill was over $100,000!
Vankatten
Spent 1 month in hospital after open heart surgery (valve replacement) and my bill was... oh, nvm, don't live in freedomland..
DontKissMeBro
Hi, Canadian here. A hospital has literally never sent me a bill for anything
frostybox
yes well, you see, more than half of Americans are retarded (Republican, OMG SOCIALISM) so yeah we're fucked
frostybox
these fuckers would unplug gma's life support to charge their phone because she didn't pay herself
cavedoge
Aussie here. Shattered my wrist once. 3 day stay. 4 screws put in. Big doggy bag of pain kills. Some therapy sessions. Grand total of $0
witchnn
Aussie too. In hospital regularly. Only pay $5 for meds a month. Not only that I get $80000 from the Ndis for supports/cleaner and gardener.
Chrishopkinsvball
Hospitals are a business
onecowboytoo
I work for the largest non-profit hospital system in the US>
ThyDevilsAdvocate
I laugh when they refer to us as patients. We’re customers.
TargetedAdBot
But shouldn't be profit making business.
Chrishopkinsvball
Individuals open hospitals and prisons, why spend millions to open something that doesn't make you money, it's a business decision
Fuzzlebutt
More people alive = more customers.
FractalPrism
"prisons are a business" <-- see how fucked BOTH of them sound?
Chrishopkinsvball
Actually it doesn't sound bad, why spend millions of dollars on something that won't make you any money?
FractalPrism
it sounds evil, not merely bad. prisons for profit brings in more innocents and others for longer than normal sentences.
ebits
Not if you’re a nationally recognized faith-based non-profit, as 90% of hospitals in US are...then your doing it all for the good of people.
minipancho94
most hospitals aren't really for profit, but big pharma is. additionally they still need to recoup losses when someone cant pay. again 1/2
minipancho94
going back to big pharma's and private insurance's shady bullshit. 2/2
ChibiQilin
I mean that's the same reason why some people won't go to the hospital for physical injuries either. If you don't like it, push for social >
Relevantusername0001
Wound up using urgent care for a broken foot... WITH INSURANCE. Because it would have still been at least 5k and I couldn't handle that.
Relevantusername0001
Spent the weekend and a Monday waiting for my primary care to write pain meds/get it looked at.
Relevantusername0001
Spent a day high as fuck to try n manage the pain. US health care is pretty fubar.
gibbinthegremlin
I was run over by a car she had 25k in insurance, i had blue cross blue shield through work cost over 250k to put me back together1/2
gibbinthegremlin
My insurance paid 50k than faught me for 2 years to get the 50k back they said it wasnt my fault so they shouldnt have to pay
ChibiQilin
healthcare or move somewhere that has it, or get insurance. That's how all Americans cope w/ life.
ASingh12345
Essentially sums up to, if you don't like it, fuck you its your fault
Me1iss0
“If you don’t like it just move” is a statement that is problematic. Many ppl can not afford to move, I can’t afford move to a diff country
Me1iss0
Also many ppl can not afford good insurance and bad insurance can really suck. Ever been to a Medicaid clinic? Many are awful.
kpmcsmokum
That was the point I tried to make
kpmcsmokum
Your joking, right?
OneUpperSteve
My joking?
kpmcsmokum
*you are joke right? Hopefully you can understand now
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CabLady
having insurance doesn't guarantee you won't get a big bill...once got charged 780 bucks for labs on a 3k bill...they did NO labs, jerks
GreyKihano
I remember getting charged $500 for endoscopy. I thought all the examinations were covered, but nope.
MasterUnicorn123
"Covered" does not equal "paid in full" in insurance language. It just means the service does not need a pre-auth/ meets the insurances...1
MasterUnicorn123
2.. Definition of "medical necessity" and so they will pay their percentage after you deductible, and they (probably) won't deny to pay...
doodlemyster
Just to get seen by a nurse practitioner ther other day cost me $241 (after insurance knocked off $17) my finger hurts and I cant afford it
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Could be worse, I think I might have cancer and can't afford the doctors/tests to even see if I do or not....
doodlemyster
Man, I'm sorry to hear that. I had some lower pain recently but it went away so I just hope it was nothing
FoxFyre
This is outrageous. Sorry to hear it. On the other hand if you google your symptoms you’ll for sure be diagnosed with cancer. Closure!
Dordanshia
Social healthcare will never happen, the insurance companies have far too much money and power
andachairaswell
I could see it happening here in Australia. They were pushing private health cover on young people. Much easier to pull our Medicare out
andachairaswell
From under us. Turns out millenials are too fucking broke to pay for private health so it's on the decline. Good news imo.
SnugglesaurusRex
So did the French Aristocracy.
WhattaYaLookingFor
Decapitation is sort of a no go meanwhile, or so I’ve heard.
netharia
Times change.
ChibiQilin
Yeah, I don't think it'll happen in the US... at least not any time soon.
kpmcsmokum
Thanks for the shitty advise then
Pinaplewapi
Not with that attitude
Dordanshia
Even if it does happen it won't be sustainable. Way too many people with chronic health issues from obesity or from being unable to get care
krisiteenie56
It absolutely would be. Profit margins in the healthcare system are in the thousands percent. It's simply unjust.
tannenbanannen
It’ll be sustainable if firms in the US charge reasonable prices for care, like they do LITERALLY EVERYWHERE FUCKING ELSE ON THE PLANET
Iamaperson1166
It's quite easy, vote progressive fore sure and never vote for a republican.
digasisv
Not if you also want control over your healthcare. We need a combo of them both.
38946738497
I never understand why some people want america to be the next Venezuela
Iamaperson1166
Maybe, if you are really and truly baffled, you could ask me instead of telling me what my opinion is.
netharia
Kinda hard when they control the higher-ups in both parties, and the DNC is constantly kneecapping and making life hell for anyone even
netharia
vaguely left-ish.
AFutileGesture
Oh but that would be socialism and we don't want that here. Popular majority doesn't like communism. :/
netharia
The shit of it is, if you describe communism to most Americans but don't call it that, they're in favor of it.
CheetosOnMyFingers
It really surprises me how deep rooted the fear of the Americans for socialism is
Soifon87
A working social security system doesn't equal communism... it just ensures that there's a security net for everyone.
AFutileGesture
Tell that to those who consider them to be the same thing.
IlluminaBlade
"or move somewhere that has it" What glorious places are just letting you show up and get free medicine.
ASpitefulLurker
literally all the other developed countries... and even some of the less developed all have socialized medicine. and its all better than US.
BlueBabyKing
Laugh in Norwegian
XOccamsChainsawX
Uhhh, people are dying because they have to stretch out their insulin ...that thing that keeps them from dying....it's bad for everyone.
iwalkedintoabar
Jesus it's cheaper to get a 5 star hotel for two nights and some "company" and drinks to help you
bobothemagicalgorilla
4 months stay 3.2 million
AFutileGesture
Why are you addressing this to a Mexican dude named Jesus?
CraftmaticAdjustibleBed
Yeah, but you gotta have the money upfront for that.
Chloesaurus
Unless you get caught...
PatrikLilja
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drakeshayne
My partner and I have been looking into some of the hotels at Disney World resorts. $1k/night in a bungalow @ the Polynesian.
zachisthebeesknees
https://totalfratmove.com/guy-goes-to-mexico-to-kill-himself-spends-week-doing-coke-and-banging-hookers-decides-to-keep-living/
PedroBenecol
As fake as that was, it's still not a bad idea given the circumstances.
scandelaria
I hate that site name
Ceistebi
My entire flight (O'Hare) and week long stay in the Netherlands was cheaper than this. It's depressing as hell.
ObsceneTentacularInsertions
*pulls out credit card*
OutrageousHemmorhoid
Holy cow... which would probably do more for your stress/ self confidence/ doubts etc, lol
MatterDynamic
As some one who has done the above (not because of suicidal reasons), it was worth it. I personally found exploring them cerebrally best!
scandelaria
define “company" just for fun...
thatdudethatslonely
I would definitely avoid alcohol if suicidal
ObsceneTentacularInsertions
alcohol is the best part of being suicidal
RetroRicki
This guy has a point and the best advice. Go stay at a Hilton and fuck a prostitute once a month, you'll feel great in no time.
H0wl
Yeah but if they take installments than you send them my way.
RoxanneNagy
Yes and no uncomfortable IV...
ihearyoubarkingbigdog
This
FabergeBurrito
"What's your kink?" "When people actually care about what i have to say" "Too unrealistic. Settle for bondage like the rest of us"
LouisSlungpue
fingobaggins
iwalkedintoabar
Sounds good I'll take Odessa
charlietrundlethegreat
Or a hit of cocaine
ElbowDeepInASeahorse
Lobuttomize
Well that won't actually help so
rivitingone
That would be illegal and immoral.
Eldibs
Illegal? Depends on where you live. Immoral? Depends on whether you have a Dark Ages view of sexuality.
TechnicallyCorrectTheBestKindOfCorrect
One might argue this should be more so
Funfuhrer
Debatable on both counts
naytorin
What's immoral is private healthcare.
immabearrawr
Because you should feel bad for feeling good.
rivitingone
The Jews and Catholics have it right. You should be guilty and miserable until you die. Then you get a shiny crown who's # of jewels matter.
iwalkedintoabar
NotFakeSanta
This right there, this is it. The Golden ticket.
thevortexmaster
Depends on where you live, no?
rivitingone
Now I'm not sure if I got downvoted by a bunch of people who are against religion or a bunch of people who don't get sarcasm...
sweetfeetpete
Flight to Mexico, some coke and a hooker. Something something priceless
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kevsprinkles84
scandelaria
Thank you for being straightforward
iwalkedintoabar
LookHarder101
It saved that one dudes life. Lmgtfy "guy decides not to commit suicide after cocaine and hookers"
efcmike1
Yea i remember this guy!
scandelaria
What's that acronym?
WizardProphet
Let me Google that for you
WizardProphet
The results are in, it's short for "let me Google that for you"
ThailandExpress
TwoSpeedTony
TheSomethingSomethingGenericReplyGuy
Almost 60,000 MXN. You could spend three weeks at an all inclusive resort at Huatulco. I bet you'll get out loving life
Silas007
No... just no
WhatsYourStoryHomie
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Skumbo
Also FAR more effective.
shawnemack
Medicare for all
onecowboytoo
No, Medicaid for all. Medicaid pays for pretty much everything. Medicare has a lot of stuff people have to pay for. We need 100% paid 1/2
onecowboytoo
Single payer.
Imalwaysready
^This. Let's grow up and stop tip-toeing around the real solution we need to get to without a hundred little baby middle steps.
TemetNosce000
Medicare doesn't pay their providers. Nobody wants to take a patient with Medicare bc they don't pay.
shawnemack
Ridiculously false. 93% of providers accept Medicare patients.
TemetNosce000
On paper but that's irrelevant. Are you familiar with the billing process? Medicare will find any little reason to not pay for services.
TemetNosce000
This has resulted in providers not accepting Medicare patients anymore because they are not getting paid for their work.
shawnemack
Really? Because 93% of providers do accept Medicare patients
Advention
As a Canadian looking at that price, I cannot help but feel sick to my stomach. Such a terrible thing, I'm sorry you have to go through that
Hercules99
What do you pay in taxes for your insurance? Is it more than $2k?
wazeewa
Same here, this is criminal
cityized
As a European this sickens me as well. Those are some really unreasonable numbers.
SDhn2a
As an American, I'm hoping I can avoid any serious illness or injury until *after* we revamp the whole insurance system, but uh...
DenverCoderIX
As an Spaniard, the fact that there's a bill at all makes me want to cry. Flee, friends! That dystopian state will eat you alive!
netharia
Most European countries won't let you in if you have chronic/genetic conditions they think will cost them. Same with CA/Aus/NZ. I've tried.
DenverCoderIX
Mallorca.
MisterD90
As anyone from almost any country should feel sick about the ridiculous price of health care in the US
Cavemenwin
As a Canadian I always get medical insurance when I travel, even if I’m only there for a few hours. US medical bills are fucking insane
paddleup
Some things make me sad to be an American. This is one of them
Arregaz
And college debt right? I met a few Americans, friends of a cousin of mine, they all in debt, freedom isn't free huh?
paddleup
I chose a well-paying field and payed off debt in a few years. For some reason, Americans would rather give money to companies than taxes
Bananasandwiches42
This is why I’ve never paid unreasonable hospital bills that I’ve received. Fuck em.
TheOneInTheDinoSuit
That will eventually come back to you when you check your credit. These things dont just dissappear if you ignore them.
Bananasandwiches42
It depends but honestly it never has. Not once and I check all 3 reports every year.
scree06
Yeah, I've never been institutionalized but I have mental health issues. I imagine I probably would have killed myself by now in america.
DownvoteIsTheNewUpvote
What happens if you don't pay it?
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
some guy comes to your house and re-do the damages that the dr. fixed.
trailb1azer
I was wondering this. I never give my SSN or license. How else can they track?
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Considering I spent 10 years doing this, I can tell you its quite easy. Tho I wrote off millions in my time, I sent plenty to collections.
Brix83
Wage garnishment in some cases.
onecowboytoo
Collections and a credit rating of 300.
dohcohv
Doesn't affect your credit score
onecowboytoo
So please explain my credit score then. It did mine. Maybe the law change since then.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Collections.
fivefrozenfishfingers
They can't seize your property, they can't refuse you if you go back. Effectively nothing, except it's a burden on taxpayers.
Brix83
I had my wages garnished for an unpaid medical bill. So, there's that.
LoudBirb
Depends on the size of the debt. Often they'll send you to collections, where you'll be harrassed daily. They may take you to court...
LoudBirb
To get your wages garnished, but that's rare. They will absolutely annihilate your credit, which means no more renting/leasing... anything.
magus200342
They eventually hand it off to debt collection agency, and when tho it doesn't technically impact your credit score, it still shows as 1)
magus200342
Unpaid medical if a bank or something checks your credit so it can negatively affect getting a car or home.
magus200342
Personal experience with car dealership, so down vote all y'all want. Glad y'all have different experiences tho.
mity0k23
Call and offer them $300, and if they refuse, just forget about it.
SpartaWillBurn
Which is partly the reason why medical bills are so high.
stiggypa
Upvoting because this actually works. They will often settle for the amount you can actually pay, because a lot of the time they get nothing
josephfrancistribbiani
Yep. My dad did this when my sister went to the er
Obijesus
Does it affect your credit if you dont pay full?
quaglinoman
Who cares, global debt crisis nuts now. It’s easy to get credit. Bankruptcy ppl get new cards in the same year. Just high interest.
elinveronicap
The point is making a deal with the creditor, so that you pay X of Y debt and they write the rest off. That means you've paid in full.
letsbodlygomotherfuckers
Sad story, I had a $5k hospital bill after my ex best the f out of me. I had to have an MRI and xrays all over my body
letsbodlygomotherfuckers
Still have yet to pay it because Im a single mom and cant afford it because I had to take so much time off work.
wefearchange
Idk what state you're in but just about every state has a crime victims compensation fund, and you should have qualified for 1/2
wefearchange
emergency medicaid for that situation, which would backpay the bills. 2/2
TheRentalRobot
Yeah, In most state in the USA, single mother with custody of a child gets Medicaid...no prob.
wefearchange
Crime victims do. I did when a drunk driver hit me and the damage to me exceeded all insurances limits (health + car were maxed) .
wefearchange
Crime Victims Compensation Act I think it's called, if you can't pay for medical costs incurred bc you're victim of crime, this kicks in.