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SleepySilentSnorlax
Wow over a million served!
PanNonOpticon
Those figures aren't directly comparable. it's 3 out of million for allergic reaction to thousand or more prevented deaths.
indified
isnt this a direct tweet from that docter guy?
tryhardtechy1169
i'm certainly not against a vaccine, i just want to wait for a larger sample size so that i can see all the side effects first.
VeryTallDwarf
Don't forget your booster shots! (If needed)
gschub12
Nurse here! Getting mine today. :) Together we can kick Covid's ass.
nfamouskingsley
I got my first round of vaccine this past Saturday. Feeling good and optimistic for the future
ShiftingPattern
As someone who has PERSONALLY had a SEVERE reaction to a vaccine (TDAP): Vaccines are important. mRNA vaccines are particularly safe. Get it
Sumdumguy42
Is that 90k world wide vs 1.1m in the US alone or? Someone explain the math please?
Sunil227
You mean the micro chips caused an allergic reaction. The vaccine itself is just s placebo. Yes I'm being sarcastic
AnythingMuchShorter
Well we've spent 2 trillion or more on wars to defend us from terrorism after an attack that killed less than this virus does every day now
AnythingMuchShorter
and this is widely supported by the same people who dismiss it as "only 1% mortality". People are bad at risk assessment.
SkyxzStone
And I guarantee some of these morons will use the allergic reactions as an excuse to say the vaccine is bad.
SparrowBird5000
My mom's terrified that my kids will be rendered infertile or something if we give them the vaccine. I pointed out how this thing was made
SparrowBird5000
so quickly and that vaccines don't do that. Husband and I are getting ourselves and the kids stuck as soon as it's available to public, but
SparrowBird5000
damn... My mom is VERY pro vaccine and wants to "wait a few years." People are paranoid about this thing.
meknownothing
Yeah I hear you and all but as someone with severe food allergies I’m worried about it
copingcabana
Schools don't teach critical thinking anymore. It's a miracle we can cope with setting our clocks back
putcleverusernamehere
If you put up a chart/picture with various color shades each with some meaning, the honorable thing to does is include the legend
Mimschampo
I’m getting mine tomorrow!
HenceforthPotato
Title doesnt match the pic. 1.1million worldwide in first week, but ~500k for USA. Also ~30k deaths in USA / week vs larger worldwide.
PamfromTheOffice
But weren't there several people who became partially paralyzed during the trial? Meningitis of the stone or something?
schizznatt
No. In the AstraZeneca trial (not yet approved) there was a case of neurological inflammation, but they could not link it to the vaccine.
Bojovnik84
What do the shades mean? Is Texas getting more vaccine than other places? I thought most of those thought this shit was fake?
siberianhufky
The image has nothing to do with vaccines. The 1.1 million figure is worldwide. Half of that is UK alone
PaintedSlate
Looks like total COVID deaths, with the raw official count per state being used for the shading, not per capita.
Bojovnik84
Florida needs to be black then. DeSantis is lying to everyone.
PaintedSlate
That's why I specified "official." :)
danielsjack4227
What about the new strain? I hear it's 12 times the killer as it's predecessor.
northof60
Not that I know of. I've heard from multiple news sources that it's much more contagious but there's no proof that it's more severe or thag
northof60
That these vaccines wont provide immunity to them.
Bystandr
3 : 330,000 is pretty benign, as vaccines go, too. This is good news.
Bystandr
Link to sources: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/
CerisCinderwolf
The naysayers forget and ignore that they're ALERGIC REACTIONS rather than some nefarious thing. They going to scream about peanuts too?
VagisilToothpaste
Dude, they've been screaming about peanuts for years now. Just look at how many schools (esp elementary) are 100% peanut-free coz of ONE kid
Kbantar
Peanuts aren't some god given right though. Me not eating them for a few hours in public in no way harms me even though I love them.
VagisilToothpaste
Zero rights are "god" given, dude...
Brhino
None of those people have gotten the second shot yet, right? So nobody's immune yet, except people from the trials.
thewiggins
HenryLongfellowIII
Not optimal immunity but they think improved immunity starts days after the first shot.
SithElephant
https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/12/12/22165286/coronavirus-vaccine-chart-fda Immunity after 10 days. You need booster to remain safe
SithElephant
after some months.
Zeefox
It works faster than you think. Pfizer’s data apparently shows 50% effectiveness only 3-4 days after the first shot.
Bukkhockey
Im immune and didn't get the vaccine and wasn't in the trials.
DetectiveSloth
Takes 6 weeks to develop antibodies as well. So 9 weeks total from first vaccine to immune.
Brhino
oooof for real? I just want to go out to eat again.
NurietaGM
It doesn't work that way. These vaccines prevent you from symptoms and death, you are still a virus carrier.
DetectiveSloth
In America it'll take a lot longer. 30-40 percent vaccination rate would be insane. I know lots of people that refuse to get it.
aurbanpirate
Correct. Pfizer vaccine has 3 weeks between shots, Moderna has 4 weeks. First vaccines were last week. Then 1-2 weeks for antibodies to form
koboshi
Friends brother is a doctor and said effects last six months, do they really?
SnapKylePop
And even once they have the antibodies, everyone STILL needs to wear masks and social distance until infection numbers go down.
SithElephant
Well, no. https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/12/12/22165286/coronavirus-vaccine-chart-fda Immunity kicks in about day ten for most (
SithElephant
people stop getting the virus) after the first dose. To remain protected you need two.
crann
This is VERY important to remember. We are no where near out of the woods yet.
VagisilToothpaste
And we likely won't be anywhere near the border of the woods until mid-late fall IF WE ARE LUCKY. People need to be patient right now.
Studoku
And even then, that's if governments decide to surrender all their fun new powers.
TheMaestro66
Have you met the American people? Pashunt is a ferner’s word.
VagisilToothpaste
I am part of those people. We're not all stupid.
siberianhufky
The 1.1 million figure is worldwide, UK had first vaccinations on 8th December so a week ahead of US but still not immune yet.
Zeefox
It’s actually starting to protect you after only 3 days (~50% protection), but increases slowly over time to reach 90-95% by week 5ish.
spiffylookingnerfherder
If someone is too stupid to take the vaccine, skip over them and try again at the end. I've been home since March, I want mine dammit.
activeracer28
Ah the good ol I'm scared of the vaccine people, yet they still ingest fast food, chemical heavy drinks, and breathe polluted air daily.
GannoMemeSlayer
You should call them what they really are: “dumbfucks”
DATMMrk12
I lived in South America for two years, and had to take several vaccines before I went. One year after a flu vaccine my arm went numb and I
DATMMrk12
felt very dizzy after 30 minutes.Make no mistake, I and my family will get the vaccine, as soon as it is available to us.But I am concerned.
glacialbae
I mean, in fairness, it's not like they have other air to breathe.
justyourfriendlyneighborhoodimgurian
"ahem" /music jingle starts to play 'Come right up, but 6 ft apart mind you! Come get your crystal clear air! Bottled for your pleasure!'
Gman122
I get what you mean by chemical heavy drinks (harmful chemicals, lead, PFAs, etc. in drinking water), but chemicals aren't neccesarily bad
Gman122
Like water is a chemical, juice is made up of tons of chemicals. All foods are complex chemicals. Fast food and such just has bad chemicals
aurbanpirate
To be fair, we are self selecting out people who have a history of allergic reactions, but still. The phase 3 trials support safety too.
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aurbanpirate
New episodes! Boxing Day!
IL0VEBACON
Can you please share more info on this? I heard a bit about it but don’t understand. I have a tree nut and penicillin allergy.
EnergyFiend
People with known severe allergies werent allowed to participate in the trials so we're only finding out how prevalent the reactions are now
aurbanpirate
Here are the cdc recs. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/allergic-reaction.html
IL0VEBACON
Thank you!
hanners404
If they have a history of allergic reactions, they may benefit from abstaining from the vaccine and using our herd immunity
Kbantar
A huge percentage of people have some kind of allergies. Only those with a history of SEVERE allergies to vaccines should MAYBE abstain.
texasdean
Or just get the vaccine in a place where medical care is available like a hospital or doctors office.
CommsAreDown
Can't believe there are people dumb enough to think unknown possible long term side effects are worse than death and known heart problems
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rezorrand
Thankfully not even half, but all those who didn't didn't help.
mynameisbenhello
Think of the zombie implications
revelator
My friend (MD w/ PHD, thesis on RNA) has serious reservations about long term effects, but agrees vaccine is probably the right thing to do.
VresiBerba
That's not how it works. The idea is that you have a higher chance of having a vaccine reaction than getting the disease in the first place.
wo1fie
If they knew covid dick was a possibility, they would not consider it a political issue anymore.
LightStriker
The long term side-effects of vaccines are quite well known. A new vaccines doesn't come with a new set of side-effects.
revelator
This is a new kind of vaccine. There are _some_ reasons to be concerned about long-term effects.
OneWashingMachine
My employees think vaccine has a 99% survivability so they aren't taking it. Thankfully the new law I can make them.
wo1fie
I wish my employer cared half as much as you do.
EdwardHarley
Haven't they shown possible long term heart, lung, and brain problems from Covid? I thought I read that somewhere.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
Yep, and I know the heart damage at least has been showing up in some people who were otherwise asymptomatic, which is extra terrifying
skip2112
Well if a side effect is my dick might stop working. I'm going to think about it
blckroses
Hey, the more people opt out and get out of line, the sooner I can get mine.
Ninjainslippers
I doubt many in the high-risk categories are opting out. If you're healthy, you're waiting til June or so.
Beleg7
Also, besides the chance of death a many known symptoms, COVID also has unknown possible long term side effects.
schizznatt
True dat!
Mohareb
Let's not forget the joy of scarred lungs. Nothing like permanent lung damage
CptRobotNinja
And possible neurological symptoms for who knows how long!
cinb2PieSmuggler
My boyfriends dad was plugged to a respirator for months. He was always a healthy person. e had to learn how to breath again
mattituuude
The death rate will be higher than expected for years as people deal with the side effects of COVID
madeyoulookXD
In the immortal words of the emperor's former advisor Yzma, "welp not getting any deader."
BlastingRopeToWaluigiHentai
Yes, but he's not dead. He's only "mostly" dead.
HootSloot
Long-term side effects are pretty rare for vaccines in general. We have new flu vaccines every year and no one questions them individually.
HootSloot
It's highly unlikely that these vaccines would have wide spread or severe long-term side effects let alone both.
dimmadamaged
Lol nope I know someone who's fine with all vaccines except he thinks the flu vaccines are malarkey. He's also afraid of the covid vaccine.
dragonherder
I mean the flu vaccine can be shit to get yearly if there isn't much of a change, but the only real risk there is that you don't have as
dragonherder
much of an immune response if there is stuff in your system still, but that's minimal.
Ninjainslippers
This is a false dichotomy. Staying home, wearing masks, and distancing is very effective. Being wary of a rushed vaccine is normal.
Ninjainslippers
Also we won't have a vaccine available for the general population until June or so, so we can revisit the topic in 6 months.
CannabalisticSpaceRapArtist
A forced medium term trial of the worlds pop..
PaintedSlate
Except it wasn't rushed in the way you intend that to sound ("less studied"), and vaccines have their effects in the first several weeks.
AntonioStark
Mostly true. The HPV vaccine was unusual, symptoms were possible quite a bit later. That said. I'm currently in line for the COVID shot.
PaintedSlate
Fear of what we don't personally understand is normal. It's just not adaptive and can be harmful when circumstances don't warrant it.
empatheticteach
Not to mention the blueprint for vaccines didn’t need to be discovered. We knew mRNA would be a significant player. A lot of work had...
empatheticteach
...already been done just because so many vaccines have been successfully made following this path.
Ninjainslippers
It got an EUA and was approved 10x faster than any other vaccine, ever. I'm not at elevated risk, so I'll wait for full FDA approval.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Please keep your concerns to yourself. Vaccines haven't been made to combat a pandemic like this since polio. The polio vaccine used live ¹
NarratesTheDarkerStory
polio virus in a batch of vaccines and something like 300 or so people got polio because of the vaccine in 1955. every vaccine since has²
PaintedSlate
Yep, but that does NOT imply that the evidence was insufficient for the finding, much less the finding in this context. We probably have to
PaintedSlate
wait anyway, but that's an option if taking full and sufficient precautions as long as warranted.
hanners404
Just pointing out, this isn't a proper comparison because we aren't yet able to compare the mid/long term effects of both
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Zirze
Disingenuous argument. Even if it's not as good as the trials say ot's going to have a lot less cases and deaths.
thegreatwhiteblackartblackestmaster
Long term effects of vaccines are usually longer life spans. Quite the opposite of dying from covid.
izackhaze
Zombies?
myotherrideisyermom
You lonely bro?
NursePaulFlowers
I think if you know how it works then you'll feel better. The mRNA vacc is just instructions on how to make covid. The body sees it being
NursePaulFlowers
Made and finds it's weaknesses before it multiplies exponentially. Killing the virus then making antibodies for a good period of time.
NursePaulFlowers
That's it.
HeyCopernicus
So pretty much like this?
Dinos91
Yeah, but just a single spike protein I think
Titty5prinkles
MRNA vaccines are sketch still. But I'll get it.
kojenk
Not this shit again.
WilliamHuskerAdama
Explain how they're sketch :)
HootSloot
Sketch how?
EveryGOPaccusationIsAConfession
The long term effects of dying from covid is rapid onset skeletonism
metroidmayhem
I'm not antivac or anything, but a lot of people don't die from covid so just ignoring possible long term effects of a vac is stupid
metroidmayhem
Id obviously like to be immune, but if immunity comes at the cost of something long term unpredicted and I was low risk of dying before
metroidmayhem
Then that's still something to be aware of. These people are just asking questions, you don't have to be dicks about it
hanners404
Hallelujah. after long term affects are evaluated, the risks of the vaccine may be even lower than we expected. We just don't know yet
EveryGOPaccusationIsAConfession
Yes we do. cause its clear your first, second, and last thought was me-me-me! Even if YOU arent at risk of dying. YOU are at risk of killing
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
Front line worker here. I’m getting my first round of the vaccine on Thursday!
ERICMC2
Get mine Wednesday, provided I don't test positive beforehand.
JPRiddles
Cool! How many rounds do you have to get? And how far apart? When will you be fully vaccinated?
ChrisTopher412
2 shots 21 days apart for Pfizer 28 days for Moderna
RelartOfGivia
I'm an essential food production worker. Our turns supposed to be coming up next. Can't wait.
rothulian
Got mine Sunday. My wife got hers Friday.
johnskydiver
That’s great, I’ve been in isolation for 9 months, when does the average guy get access. Sorry for venting.
gamblingpoet
Let me know if the chip implanted itches or not. The last one itched like a mofo and I hope Bill Gates heard my complaint.
sumoantlion
No itchiness or anything for mine. It's weird because I also have to log into an app daily to record any side effects. Seems redundant ;)
kgirl924
I am a grocery store worker so we're in phase 2 of vaccinations! I can't wait!
lookingforapurpose
I’ve done 1 clinic giving the shot and still don’t have mine. :p one day I’ll get it.
Issima1984
TearsAreGoodLube
When do you get the follow up ones?
Ikindawantsoup
Yay!
SgtButterFace
Lucky, I’m hoping to have mine before the end of January. Here’s hoping.
sumoantlion
I got mine Saturday!
Demmayyy
I’m a nurse but breastfeeding so unable to yet, but as soon as I can I will!
saldrSleepTaker
Need proof
jsavidge
You do realize it may be months until she can send a photo of her getting vaccinated, right? ?
KidShenck
You're a double nurse. Nursing nurse.
aurbanpirate
Me too! I’m tomorrow!
Aksuuuh
Hello Tomorrow, I'm dad.
SeaNubs
Is it free or do you have to pay for it? I'm a U.S. citizen here.
sumoantlion
For me, they told me the actual fluid in the vaccine was govt funded and the labor would be covered by my insurance.
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
Cool! Post updates! I will too. If people see us getting them, they won’t be so afraid. Good luck, stay safe, and thank you for your work!
fuqsquirrels
That's what you want us to think.
newworldtraveller
From what I read, it sounded like the vaccines are theoretically safer than previous vaccines, right?
geminikira452
Work at hospital in a rural area and got my first round this past Thursday. Stay strong! ❤️
TwelveAngryMuffins
So I'm an emt in new york..... How exactly do I sign up.for or know I'm on a wait list for the vaccine?