No, he's a self-described democratic socialist. Quite a bit different than a social democrat, and currently totally unelectable in the "I don't know what socialism is but I know I don't want it" USA.
My President (if my vote had been in the majority). As a Vermonter, I wish y'all were ready for what we want for the country. Socialism and climate sensitivity.
You guys are amazing. I sincerely hope you're able to become the first state with M4A as soon as you find a suitable Democrat replacement for Phil Scott, because the other blue states will start following your lead. With love from Massachusetts!
The world would have been a better place (for at least a short time) if he would have made it into office. Just imagine. This gentleman has been on the right side of history for his entire life. Happy Birthday
He literally polled better than Hillary and Biden, or at least comparably. He actually has broad crossover appeal because his policies are popular and he actually talks to people on FOX every now and again.
I already didn’t trust this country… but now I know this country is run like bullshit on purpose and I hate everything about it…. Fuck the system, Chucky Cheese for president
That agreement was solely for the general election, and other candidates could have signed similarly before primary kicked off. Not uncommon a thing. Sanders lost by millions of votes in the primary, and was mostly winning low turnout caucuses and failing to win over black people, who are a significant part of the Dem party. He started the 'crooked' Clinton thing and didn't give up when mathematically eliminated. The idea that he had any shot at being President if he didn't lose primary by 1/
Part of why he lost is the media assuming HRC would get 1000 super delegates while starting him at 0. Had they presented it like a fair race, It would have at least been closer.
THIS! I keep hearing the argument that the super delegates weren't allowed to decide a race, but they very obviously had an influence when the media was shouting "HoWeVeR cAn He WiN?!" while unfairly showing Hillary with all the superdelegates. Why the hell are we letting inner party members pick and choose our options for president instead of the people?!
millions of votes is fantastical. The Clinton campaign barely went after him as hard as they could have. Repubs would not have held back. You think Repubs wouldn't run the video of him in his underpants or whatever singing while on his honeymoon in the USSR in every battleground state? When we know even now that 'communist' is still a scary word for old people voters? He couldn't win Dems over, which were more favorable a group. How would he win non-Dems? This is a fantasy. Clinton could've 2/
been better, but Sanders had no shot. The DNC did not brainwash millions of voters into rejecting him. No conspiracy flipped votes. Those most predisposed to voting for him rejected him. That is not a winning strategy for the Presidency. 3/3
Yeah he never had an actual chance. His only role in that election was taking votes away from Clinton. If he had shut up and stepped aside when he lost, we probably would have a very different world right now.
That disqualifies almost half our current crop of elected officials. He's only 7 years older than Clinton. I would not have a problem electing someone that was 73 - 75 at election time, if they could pass a dementia/Alzheimer's test. Yearly tests for everybody after 68, with published results to compare for loss of function. A cognitive version of IT/Networking CNA test (fail a question and they drill down to explore the specific flaw).
No. He should've been the DNCs nominee instead of Hilary in 2016. They pulled it out from under him to get behind Hilary. We all know how that worked out.
I agree, I hate to eliminate the good ones but age limits and term limits should be a thing. I am all for current retirement age as the max, especially when we have a min age.
There are also problems with term limits, in that more power goes to relatively anonymous party leadership. Real engagement of the public is needed, ultimately. Better primary voting would help cut down on those who are unfit, one way or another. Entrenchment power and apathy are the deeper problems - age limits and term limits will probably not do much to limit their impact, considered on their own.
Problem is you don't magically get better politicians with age limits or term limits. You need people to get involved. Encourage local and state reps to prepare for higher office. Else you just get party puppets who get appointed when a term limit hits. Corporate shills who get put on the ticket to grant favors. Voters don't vote or get involved in primaries. We need people to get involved.
It's both. Bernie is similar age to McConnell, but voices thoughts people still relate to. MTG and Boebert are strictly MAGA hype chasing attention seekers. Thoroughly review candidate policies past and present, don't vote based on single-issue arguments alone (abortion, Immigration).
Cmon man age does start to matter in their bloody 80s. For every person that’s still in amazing health at 80 there’s a ton more that aren’t and it’s not the ideal place to have people struggle with dementia or other types of impaired faculties.
I mean, he should have retired, he's worked hard his entire life, he should get to spend the last bit of it in the shade of a tree, relaxing, telling stories and what not. I wish he could enjoy retirement, rather than still need to fight for basic human decency.
And health/capacity, though I have seen no cause for concern yet for Mr Sanders. It's likely that he'll have to retire from active service within a few more years, though.
I feel like he's got this sorta Stanley Kubrick thing going on where he'll pass if he ever gets a chance to relax since he's been fighting the good fight since he still had a full head of hair.
You've clearly never worked with somebody old. We all start to slow down and lose mental faculties well before 82. Why do you think we always assume a shit driver is old, and its usually true. You can believe in Bernie and his message and still want someone who isn't 1 foot in the grave.
We always assume a shit driver is a woman too, but guess what, they're safer drivers than men. Young men are the worst drivers. So yeah, it's almost as if argument from prejudice is a stupid fallacy lol
People love talking about term limits and age limits until Bernie Sanders gets mentioned. It makes it seem like the call for age limits is just a cynical way to make room for politicians you agree with more
It's far more likely a younger person that replaces him and many other Dems would be just as liberal. Bernie would be lost, but we would gain many progressive reps. It would easily be a net gain.
Bernie is an outlier I don't think he really sways my opinion. In theory term limits could do a lot of good by stopping career politicians and removing the elderly infirm puppets. If that's true, it outweighs losing one good politician early. The perspective effectiveness is still debatable, but losing Bernie early isn't really a great argument against it imo.
The only argument I've heard AGAINST term limits is if we put them in place, we'll have a sudden influx of well-known individuals who know how to navigate the labyrinthine mess that is DC beauracracy, and most of them will probably choose to keep working anyway, so what job fits for a person who knows how to get shit done in DC? Lobbyist. If we cut off lobbying first, term limits become much better in theory.
Yeah, I think the problem is that dementia gets more likely as age increases, but it's hardly guaranteed at any specific age, and all sorts of mental problems can strike younger people as well. Age alone isn't a good factor. As an aside, I'm not even quite sure what term limits are supposed to accomplish. Give challengers a chance by reducing the name recognition of the competition by removing the incumbent?
I'm sure there must be a better way to improve elections than to just throw people out after a while and keep everything else the same. Ranked choice, voter education initiatives that present all candidates on equal footing, etc.
Studies indicate in a way i find very convincing that ranked choice voting yields outcomes that more closely match democratic intent than any other tested strategy in almost all scenarios. I'm confident they would help as would automated district boundaries that, for example, minimize circumference. Term limits might help mitigate incumbent fund raising advantages and passive voters but most adherents seem to just disagree with election outcomes or think kidz rule, oldies drool.
svga
never would have thought he was older than Biden (78?) - Fauci is older than Bernie! Age doesn't mean a thang (to some)
SUNGZU
Ah Bernie, the one that got away... 😢
nicetomeetyouimdad
Oh hey we have the same birth day (not year tho)
Baja2276
UpstartDesigner
I love this fit!
echo57
Oh cool, birthday partner with Bernie Sanders
Peloquin
Not the president we deserved, but the one we needed, and lost out on anyway.
guitarfourtysix
Someone's been in Jeff Goldblum's closet.
SankariSuomi
Sanders/Warren was my dream ticket for 2016.
kaijuuGold
watermelon swaggy happy bday yo
jgjgjgjgjgjgjg
Bitchin' style!
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Just a tad bit photoshopped. Basic color correction and such
glocksout
Bernie becomes the Joker
userfriendly19777
Poor Bernie. Basically a Scandinavian social democrat trapped in the wrong country.
PballQhead
No, he's a self-described democratic socialist. Quite a bit different than a social democrat, and currently totally unelectable in the "I don't know what socialism is but I know I don't want it" USA.
OaksParcel
Not really, more like a Canadian liberal.
DarkSock
Remember 10 years ago when people said he was too old to run for president…LOL
tolson9
original... Bernie does not dress in pink and green!
gettingtwelveblueshellsinarow
I like the photo, even though he seems disappointed. I don’t blame him.
RetrogradeLlama
Once again, I am asking for your birthday cards.
JoeT85
he's only 82? wow. seems like a low number
aspriringcatlady
I heard this in his voice
thomerow
"If he likes socialism so much, Bernie should be forced to give away 90% of his birthday cake!"
JoeT85
Most people are forced to give away 90% of their cake. That's how parties work.
Trastion
That's a watermelon, you can't fool me.
writerbuddy
Imagine the prosperity and happiness and fairness for all if this man had become president with party support in the house.
clintdempseylover3000
Mmmm…watermelon
tolson9
anitabieror6
Feel the Bern!
UncleVenoM
My President (if my vote had been in the majority). As a Vermonter, I wish y'all were ready for what we want for the country. Socialism and climate sensitivity.
ChainmailleAddict
You guys are amazing. I sincerely hope you're able to become the first state with M4A as soon as you find a suitable Democrat replacement for Phil Scott, because the other blue states will start following your lead. With love from Massachusetts!
FishieStardust
Out of love of course
JinxRocks
Bernie stand there all alone..but he’s wearing a suit of watermalone!
PineappleLoopsBroether
isthisusernametakenquestionmark
The world would have been a better place (for at least a short time) if he would have made it into office. Just imagine. This gentleman has been on the right side of history for his entire life. Happy Birthday
JawanaDjinnAndTonic
Bernie may have well been the president if Hillary Clinton and the DNC didn't sabotage his run for office in 2015. I can't help but wonder if the US would have been any better with hatemongers still being less flamboyant in public. https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015
MarioBoon
Bernie would never be president for 2 reasons: 1: jew. 2: socialist.
ChainmailleAddict
He literally polled better than Hillary and Biden, or at least comparably. He actually has broad crossover appeal because his policies are popular and he actually talks to people on FOX every now and again.
roadsterdoc
Wow. What a damn shame
UncleVenoM
PineappleLoopsBroether
I already didn’t trust this country… but now I know this country is run like bullshit on purpose and I hate everything about it…. Fuck the system, Chucky Cheese for president
JumpinJoe
That's one of the reasons why Trump won
Perkunas687
That agreement was solely for the general election, and other candidates could have signed similarly before primary kicked off. Not uncommon a thing. Sanders lost by millions of votes in the primary, and was mostly winning low turnout caucuses and failing to win over black people, who are a significant part of the Dem party. He started the 'crooked' Clinton thing and didn't give up when mathematically eliminated. The idea that he had any shot at being President if he didn't lose primary by 1/
a1b3117
Part of why he lost is the media assuming HRC would get 1000 super delegates while starting him at 0. Had they presented it like a fair race, It would have at least been closer.
ChainmailleAddict
THIS! I keep hearing the argument that the super delegates weren't allowed to decide a race, but they very obviously had an influence when the media was shouting "HoWeVeR cAn He WiN?!" while unfairly showing Hillary with all the superdelegates. Why the hell are we letting inner party members pick and choose our options for president instead of the people?!
Perkunas687
millions of votes is fantastical. The Clinton campaign barely went after him as hard as they could have. Repubs would not have held back. You think Repubs wouldn't run the video of him in his underpants or whatever singing while on his honeymoon in the USSR in every battleground state? When we know even now that 'communist' is still a scary word for old people voters? He couldn't win Dems over, which were more favorable a group. How would he win non-Dems? This is a fantasy. Clinton could've 2/
Perkunas687
been better, but Sanders had no shot. The DNC did not brainwash millions of voters into rejecting him. No conspiracy flipped votes. Those most predisposed to voting for him rejected him. That is not a winning strategy for the Presidency. 3/3
victell
It's a battle every time I try to explain this. That said, I would loved to have had Bernie.
NiHZ
Yeah he never had an actual chance. His only role in that election was taking votes away from Clinton. If he had shut up and stepped aside when he lost, we probably would have a very different world right now.
Jackospade
afatrollofmyown
Birdie Sanders! I had been invited to the rally where that happened, but couldnt' go because I had to work. I regret it.
mikenco
I know he's one of the good guys, but politicians his age should have retired 20 years ago.
giganticroboticpenguin
That disqualifies almost half our current crop of elected officials. He's only 7 years older than Clinton. I would not have a problem electing someone that was 73 - 75 at election time, if they could pass a dementia/Alzheimer's test. Yearly tests for everybody after 68, with published results to compare for loss of function. A cognitive version of IT/Networking CNA test (fail a question and they drill down to explore the specific flaw).
infrazab
Ageism, not cool.
joanhenge
Let's not get carried away. 5 years ago.
OppaGangnamPyle
No. He should've been the DNCs nominee instead of Hilary in 2016. They pulled it out from under him to get behind Hilary. We all know how that worked out.
Syxcfaq
Bernie is the exception to the rule. It's not necessarily about age but aptitude and ability. Bernie is more than up to the job. Biden however...
whadyameanthatnamestaken
Getting tired of the ageism on Imgur
scoutMoonDiver
phalanxausage
It's just going to get worse the closer we get to the US presidential election.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
God so am I. Kyle Rittenhouse is a zoomer, yet people criticize fucking BERNIE SANDERS for being too old. My god.
victell
You're probably tired because ur old /s
scoutMoonDiver
You’re not wrong.
victell
Same same
inkbot
I agree, I hate to eliminate the good ones but age limits and term limits should be a thing. I am all for current retirement age as the max, especially when we have a min age.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
What other immutable characteristic are you OK denying people representation for? Take your time.
euphoricopportunity
There are also problems with term limits, in that more power goes to relatively anonymous party leadership. Real engagement of the public is needed, ultimately. Better primary voting would help cut down on those who are unfit, one way or another. Entrenchment power and apathy are the deeper problems - age limits and term limits will probably not do much to limit their impact, considered on their own.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
It also denies older voters representation. That is a massive no-no in anything that claims to be democracy.
Clockworkdancerobot
Problem is you don't magically get better politicians with age limits or term limits. You need people to get involved. Encourage local and state reps to prepare for higher office. Else you just get party puppets who get appointed when a term limit hits. Corporate shills who get put on the ticket to grant favors. Voters don't vote or get involved in primaries. We need people to get involved.
donsterkay
Yea because the younger reps like MT Green, Boebert, and others do so much better a job /snark. Its not about age, its about integrity.
Apollymkatistrafia
It's both. Bernie is similar age to McConnell, but voices thoughts people still relate to. MTG and Boebert are strictly MAGA hype chasing attention seekers. Thoroughly review candidate policies past and present, don't vote based on single-issue arguments alone (abortion, Immigration).
Vickimus
Cmon man age does start to matter in their bloody 80s. For every person that’s still in amazing health at 80 there’s a ton more that aren’t and it’s not the ideal place to have people struggle with dementia or other types of impaired faculties.
DarkBusterBaron
Age definitely plays a part several old politicians have significant health problems that should make them unfit for office such as dementia.
BelleDuBlerg
Whoa whoa whoa. I love Bernie but the country ain’t ready. He ends up splitting the vote. No one wants clowns like MTG or Boebert 🤢
GodEmperorOfImgur
I mean, he should have retired, he's worked hard his entire life, he should get to spend the last bit of it in the shade of a tree, relaxing, telling stories and what not. I wish he could enjoy retirement, rather than still need to fight for basic human decency.
Corrodias
And health/capacity, though I have seen no cause for concern yet for Mr Sanders. It's likely that he'll have to retire from active service within a few more years, though.
RedC0met3
I feel like he's got this sorta Stanley Kubrick thing going on where he'll pass if he ever gets a chance to relax since he's been fighting the good fight since he still had a full head of hair.
kickmyballsrealhard
*sad American Democratic-socialist noises*
Corrodias
I really hope that, when the time comes, Vermont voters are smart enough to choose a suitable successor.
poultrylord
You've clearly never worked with somebody old. We all start to slow down and lose mental faculties well before 82. Why do you think we always assume a shit driver is old, and its usually true. You can believe in Bernie and his message and still want someone who isn't 1 foot in the grave.
UndefinedIsNotAFunction
We always assume a shit driver is a woman too, but guess what, they're safer drivers than men. Young men are the worst drivers. So yeah, it's almost as if argument from prejudice is a stupid fallacy lol
donsterkay
Most shit drivers I see aren't old, they are self centered young people who think they can text and drive. Old people don't do that.
America4Tea
For me, it's Karen's who think the speed limit is 30 above whatever the sign says.
Youhavinagiraffe
People love talking about term limits and age limits until Bernie Sanders gets mentioned. It makes it seem like the call for age limits is just a cynical way to make room for politicians you agree with more
BigDaddysMeatWagon
It's far more likely a younger person that replaces him and many other Dems would be just as liberal. Bernie would be lost, but we would gain many progressive reps. It would easily be a net gain.
Findrek
Bernie is an outlier I don't think he really sways my opinion. In theory term limits could do a lot of good by stopping career politicians and removing the elderly infirm puppets. If that's true, it outweighs losing one good politician early. The perspective effectiveness is still debatable, but losing Bernie early isn't really a great argument against it imo.
engineeringwombocombo
The only argument I've heard AGAINST term limits is if we put them in place, we'll have a sudden influx of well-known individuals who know how to navigate the labyrinthine mess that is DC beauracracy, and most of them will probably choose to keep working anyway, so what job fits for a person who knows how to get shit done in DC? Lobbyist. If we cut off lobbying first, term limits become much better in theory.
Corrodias
Yeah, I think the problem is that dementia gets more likely as age increases, but it's hardly guaranteed at any specific age, and all sorts of mental problems can strike younger people as well. Age alone isn't a good factor. As an aside, I'm not even quite sure what term limits are supposed to accomplish. Give challengers a chance by reducing the name recognition of the competition by removing the incumbent?
Corrodias
I'm sure there must be a better way to improve elections than to just throw people out after a while and keep everything else the same. Ranked choice, voter education initiatives that present all candidates on equal footing, etc.
gesel
Studies indicate in a way i find very convincing that ranked choice voting yields outcomes that more closely match democratic intent than any other tested strategy in almost all scenarios. I'm confident they would help as would automated district boundaries that, for example, minimize circumference. Term limits might help mitigate incumbent fund raising advantages and passive voters but most adherents seem to just disagree with election outcomes or think kidz rule, oldies drool.