‘Russian’ through human trials... what could possibly go wrong?!

Aug 12, 2020 5:37 AM

Prisoners is such a dirty word i prefer guest who can't leave

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The secret is that it's vodka.

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kill that bitch Corona with 96% vodka straight in the veins

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Eastern European style what!

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If Russia creates Covid infected people that are immune, they could win every Olympics from now on.

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The second he said that his daughter used it I was laughing my bollocks off, blatant divert from protests in Khabarovsk and Belarus

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The Khabarovsk demonstrations have already lossed steam, and even Russian policy makers have been sympathetic to the Belarussian protests.

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This one could actually cause autism

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No it can't. Because autism developes in the womb

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"it was never the outbreak that turned us into zombies, it was the so called vaccine...

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well you see, at least I can kill zombies without going to jail, I can't kill morons that might potentially spread the virus because 1/2

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they refuse to wear a facemask

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Thalidomide, remember the poor kids born with no arms, just hands. That is what can go wrong without proper testing over time. 1

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Yeah, that was in America

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2 my guess, tRump will buy vaccine to make himself the hero and hope to save his shit presidency.

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They've done human trials. They skipped large-svale trial vs. placebo. I remain skeptical but if it works than good enough for me.

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Annnddd cancer.

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Phase 3 still on track, they just want to be "first" on everything. Even pharma lobby said, should wait Phase 3 completion

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Russia doing a little Trump Razzle Dazzle with the Truth for some fake world interest points...love it.

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And it's fucking with the stock prices of the pump-n-dump that Fox has been pulling.

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‘Razzle Dazzle’ is such a great combination of letters

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Nope , they probably got it from the Chinese

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Or they're going to distribute something deliberately unsafe as a psychological op to raise vaccine hesitancy in rival countries. Putin 1/

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2/ is the kind of bastard who'd poison some of his own people to keep the pandemic rolling in the US / EU by getting people refuse a real

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3/ vaccine when it's ready because "I don't want to end up like those poor Russians who took it".

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1.Create fake hype 2. Sell this "vaccine" to desperate Trump for big bucks.

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Genius

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Jenius

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In mother Russia vaccine take you.

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Oh, forgot how Americans are indoctrinated to believe only they can produce technology. Russians and the Chinese are more high tech than you

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Just like they sent a guy to space and built a nuclear power plant.

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do they have a vaccine for all these people "falling" out of windows though? That seems to be quite catchy over there..

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Which COD game features Russian zombies?

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Black Ops 3, DLC pack 3, map called Gorod Krovi

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It works.Kills the virus and the patient

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Super soldier serum! Or krippin virus

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Well, russians are actually not that bad in science and their president atleast listens to it...

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Right? Whether it works or not remains to be seen but at least it is a rational response. People in glass houses, etc.

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The agency that produced Sputnik V has a very decent reputation with the development of vaccines.

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So, it's a huge gamble for them to tarnish their reputation for the glory of Putin.

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They used to be though. I had some russian physics profs, often referring through russian mathematicians and other physicists. But they were

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*...referring to Russian...

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from the 1st half of 20th century. Russia had a culture of promoting education, schools focused on maths, school math contests, etc. But

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as far as I heard all that was abolished the last few decades, now they have less 'geniuses' compared to a 100 years ago, fewer scientists.

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They still are. See the number of STEM graduates in Russia compared to their population, and compare that rate to other countries.

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Yeah but medical experts agree that the timeframe way to short to have included proper subject testing. Plus the Russians refuse to release

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The Euro and US made vaccines have already been used in human trials though? How is that different?

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Yep, sounds fishy. But still, the post was about something else than that.

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The research, it's findings and it's data

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Everyone else refused to release their data to Russia. Why would you expect then to do differently?

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Any idea why? I thought everyone would be sharing data with each other? The whole “We’re in this together” thing.

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Thats what I thought until the news came out about Russia and China stealing covid research data.

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Everyone else did? Who is "everyone"? If you mean scientific institutes then you're wrong, they do share

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If nothing more than for a "Ha! We got there first, even without you! Take this proof and shove it!"... yeah. If you're gonna publicly /1

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claim that kind of accomplishment to show off how great you are, you better have the proof. If they DID manage to pull it off it would /2

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Nah. They’re only announcing it cause they know trump will give them $$$ for it and bypass FDA. It won’t be effective of course.

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What do you mean? I injected disinfectant and put UV radiation into my lungs and it cleared up my Corona just fine! /s

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My wife and I mixed bleach and ammonia in an enclosed room and inhaled the vapors; worked great!!

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Hey could be worse, could be American under the current administration

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Not even 2 months of human trials and they guarantee "long lasting protection," suuuuure.

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Give it to the Trump supporters.

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My thoughts exactly

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Point here, there are a lot of vaccines that have made as much or more progress as this.

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Haha this is exactly what my Russian co-worker said. "It's easy to get through trials when the government tells you and you have no choice"

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A week or so ago research was hacked from University of Texas. Phase 3 trials are going on near Austin. Chinese consulate was raided ...

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They've also attempted to hack British research. The article wasn't clear on if they succeeded or not.

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My question is why isn’t this open source? I get the capitalist potential but wouldn’t be better for everyone to work together...

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... in Huston by FBI. Chimese inside were burning documents. Did someone get info and sell it to Russia? Is this what being a crazy person..

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There was a major cyber attack on British supercomputers not too long ago. Many of those machines would have contained COVID data.

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If you're a foreign office in a country, and your host raids the place, you'll probably be burning some documents regardless, though.

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American embassies have furnaces specifically for burning paperwork. It’s basic procedure, China just wasn’t properly prepared.

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... person is like?

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Ofc, USA is the only country in which anything gets invented. If something gets invented abroad it was definietely stolen from USA.

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We live in a crazy world

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Is mother Russia's vaccine now comrade

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At the same time Russia is no chump in fundamental research. What is hairy is their refusal to publish the data for peer research.

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* review. Sorry.

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Yes, that is what being a crazy person is like.

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Once you start paying attention to world events you start noticing stuff like this. Don't get me started on how the world finally beat ISIS.

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Only slightly. But sometimes crazy people can get it right.

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I mean who cares as long as it works

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It has been reported that both Russia and China have been stealing vaccine research from other countries.

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Is that a thing? Aren’t they all already sharing the information they have?

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You'd think they would, wouldn't you? People are dying and they still managed to make a pissing contest out of it.

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The companies developing them? Fuck no. Why would they? General research data and results from the trials are shared and have to be made

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you seriously implying that the russians stole info from US who did NOTHING from the get go? sure.

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To be fair, you're conflating the gov't and general populace's failures with pharmaceutical companies' desire for profit. Totally different.

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Yes... the US is where most significant scientific discoveries of the last century have happened. The anti US sentiment on this site strong

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I think it's more likely the other way around. Take a moment and count how many anti-chinese/russian, or mocking the rest of the world.

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University of Texas.

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Human trials are a lot easier when you have tonnes of political prisoners.

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No no, they try them with teachers and kindergarteners...........

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He tried it on one of his daughters... Hmmm...

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No matter how many subjects you have, proper procedure still takes a year. Having a million "volunteers" doesn't help you figure out 1/2

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any faster whether immunity is retained for a year, or if there are important late-appearing side effects. 2/2

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I mean usa just labeles them prisoners but sure.

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Thank goodness our pres has a good relationship with putin.

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Just like the US!

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They're called dedicated patriots that volunteered to be test subjects for the good of the people, comrade.

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If they used political prisoners, they should have tested on more than 80 people before saying good enough

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PUSSY RIOT

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Hopefully its still an effective vaccine

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Look out for the Chinese vaccines. And we will take it and be complicit

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I mean that is going to be pretty fucking tough moral decision if China gets the vaccine. Russia's though I think is just bullshit pill.

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They're even easier when you just... don't.

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Yeah it will end up like the Sars vaccine, even Astra zenecc have been granted immunity from any future prosecution

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Lmao what about Guantanamo

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And, if the Nazi's taught anything: medical advancement goes a lot faster if you don't mind killing a lot of people.

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Ahem. The human trials start NOW.

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I believe it's pronounced "patriotic, willing volunteers".

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Hello my fellow British imagurian!

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That is terrifying.

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YOUR NEXT!!!

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They're outsourcing that to the Philippines and their semi-dictator. Even the Soviets outsource their human rights violations

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What the fuck

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...my people... what the fuck.

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*mandatory volunteers

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They are not so much political prisoners as they are free subjects for human experimentation.

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You can fit so many free subjects in this experiment.

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Nazi's did it too. Sadly... but a lot of their research is being used today, since they were scientific, if morally wrong to conduct on ppl

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Eh, way less than people think. They did a lot of not actually science.

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The data could've been gathered through statistics on accidents. This was faster, but by no means worth the human suffering. It never is.

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Never.

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One experiment was tossing people into sub zero temp water and seeing how long they stay alive for. Nowadays its used as a base for rescuing

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The US Navy used healthy young recruits and made them do deeper and longer dives with shorter surface times until they got the bends , and -

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Sailors or shipwrecked people from arctic waters. I.e. having 72 ? hrs before someone is fully unable to be saved if they're in arctic water

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"On analysis, the Dachau hypothermia study has all the ingredients of a scientific fraud, and rejection of the data -

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-on purely scientific grounds is inevitable. They cannot advance science or save human lives."

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It's one of the few, though. Most their "research" was plagued by issues beyond even the fact it's been done on concentration camp prisoners

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Nah, the temperature experiments were crap too. Turns out malnourished test subjects make for bad science.

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America has the largest prison population in the world

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Yes, but they have special protections when it comes to medical research in the US.

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You’re making a valid point in the wrong area. That aside, you would much rather be a US prisoner than a prisoner in Russia.

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Neither? Neither? Neither.

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I mean russian prisons are a low bar...

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Both suck, no thanks

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I've got a tricky one: Would you rather be a political prisoner in Russia, or a minors sex trafficker in a US prison?

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Both

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Epstein didn’t die because he trafficked minors. He died because he knew powerful people who raped minors

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If I’m a minors sex trafficker I get well wishes from the president on national TV, so at least I’d have that going for me.

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depends on who are your customers in usa. if they are a couple of president it makes different. but polonium is no shit

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Yes, but you see in the US we don't jail people for their political beliefs. We jail them because of their race.

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Unless your political belief happens to be racial equality offcourse, then you will get whisked away by unmarked vans.

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It’s actually the opposite problem, officially. The scientists took it, gave it to a few of their family and friend and called it a trial.

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You want zombies: this is how you get zombies.

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I mean they're using adenovirus as a carrier for sars-covid surface proteins so at worst you might just have a cold from it... Not zombies

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Never underestimate 2020

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I never understood how zombies "worked". If their major body functions cease, how does oxygen get transported to the muscles? If no oxygen

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2/gets transported to the muscles, then how do their limbs move? How would THEY move? I genuinely think zombies are biologically impossible

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Cordyceps Fungi zombify various species of caterpillars. They're not "dead" but not living the way they used to live.

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There's only one fungi that's evolved to be present in human body conditions and it's not a zombie fungi.

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Do you mean this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis Known commonly as "valley fever."

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Voodoo.

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I like your username and this comment combo

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tbf that might add a little something extra to 2020 to spice it up a little. Been a dull year so far.

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Yeah but can we bring the zombie apocalypse next year I still need a play cyberpunk.

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To be fair....there was that bit where NASA admitted to UFOs, but other then that its been flat as a witch's tit

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Why does a witch have flat tits then?

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Why does a witch have flat tits then?

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Right? Like, centuries of witchcraft wouldn't have figured out a spell for giving yourself great big anime tiddies?

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There's nothing I want more than a zombie apocalypse. I'm so prepared.

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See you after the apocalypse! Maybe we'll smash some zombie skulls together

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Necrophilia isn't really my deal but we can meet over a can of beans.

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Haha... Well... If that's how you want to define smashing zombie skulls, beans sounds great!

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Russians turn into super mutants October 2020

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In the comics Abomination was Russian

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syka

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We could get Black Mountain Radio!

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That's right, Rhonda!

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replaying F4 now. I hear that tik-tok, I run for the hills and let Piper get nuked yet again.

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Russian FEV sounds a lot scarier

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More likely too

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You ever see that guy with the enormously inflated biceps? Russia has mutants already

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At least they can't run fast squating.

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They'll be hackin and wackin and smackin

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Or start the zombie apocalypse... I just hope it's not like I am Legend

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Those were more like vampires. Honestly, with all the weaknesses they have (even excluding holy stuff), I wouldn't be too worried.

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The book or the movie? Big difference

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I like the omega man movie, just like the book I am legend

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This. In the book he was [SPOILER ALERT] ½

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The Legend, monster lurking in the day, hunting people changed by the plague trying to restore the civilization. ²

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The original ending of the Will Smith movie kinda hinted at that, but it didn't play well so they went with the current ending.

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Imagine it does work, and the lack of regulations in russia will essentially stop corona months earlier than we would have. What are we

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By the time we know, other vaccines will be tested properly as well.

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Going to do with that info. I feel like that's a big deal.

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Now imagine it doesn't work, and it only makes the situation worse. The reason why we have regs, is more often than not it's worse case.

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Assuming it works, I do wonder if the west would rather let its population and economies die rather than buy it from Russia.

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Nah. At worst they'd buy it and lie about it being domestically produced.

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It would mean they got extremely lucky and it would make our entire world just a little stupider in the future.

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it is, and that'd be awesome, but there's also a chance it could do harm or be ineffective on the virus altogether. that's why you test.

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Unregulated stuff can be amazing, it can also fuck up big time. It's not that everyone without a license can't drive but I wanna check.

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Because ... you wouldn't be the first? I really don't get your point

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Lol. You must be new here. You gota be anti russia here in everyway possible

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Except, of course, when the guys here are lusting after russian women. Then its ok

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I'm not anti russian (I'm anti many of their gov. policies) but I'm 100% and unapologetically for scientific process for production of meds.

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I mean...you know they have a reputation for reason(s) and only reason we GAF is they have nukes. If Russia wasn’t run by Stasi :(

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I feel the same way about America. Tbh as fucked up as it seems, I trust Putin with nukes more than I do Trump.

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As someone who lives near the russian border I agree with you.

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I probably marginally trust military to stop trump but if it was just them alone and a box and button. I'd give it to Putin..which is mental

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(sigh) damnit I agree

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Its the same story with other world leaders. Take US for example.

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That's literally Kremlin methods to make every else look bad so they can claim Russia isn't so bad. They are authoritarian run by KGB agent.

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