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dkfox
Prisoners is such a dirty word i prefer guest who can't leave
AtsaMattaForMe
TautologyIsWhatItIs
The secret is that it's vodka.
pandamonstre
kill that bitch Corona with 96% vodka straight in the veins
Eastern European style what!
taurondir
If Russia creates Covid infected people that are immune, they could win every Olympics from now on.
ThePerks2010
The second he said that his daughter used it I was laughing my bollocks off, blatant divert from protests in Khabarovsk and Belarus
SukhoiSuperjet
The Khabarovsk demonstrations have already lossed steam, and even Russian policy makers have been sympathetic to the Belarussian protests.
MonsieurLeMoustache
This one could actually cause autism
rage3333
No it can't. Because autism developes in the womb
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
"it was never the outbreak that turned us into zombies, it was the so called vaccine...
idontenglishsorry
well you see, at least I can kill zombies without going to jail, I can't kill morons that might potentially spread the virus because 1/2
they refuse to wear a facemask
fbutaric
Thalidomide, remember the poor kids born with no arms, just hands. That is what can go wrong without proper testing over time. 1
Yeah, that was in America
2 my guess, tRump will buy vaccine to make himself the hero and hope to save his shit presidency.
TheMazzy
They've done human trials. They skipped large-svale trial vs. placebo. I remain skeptical but if it works than good enough for me.
UnremarkablyInteresting
Annnddd cancer.
tepmoc
Phase 3 still on track, they just want to be "first" on everything. Even pharma lobby said, should wait Phase 3 completion
rawdog
Russia doing a little Trump Razzle Dazzle with the Truth for some fake world interest points...love it.
3P3references
And it's fucking with the stock prices of the pump-n-dump that Fox has been pulling.
‘Razzle Dazzle’ is such a great combination of letters
Shinoken
Nope , they probably got it from the Chinese
DrKriegersClone
Or they're going to distribute something deliberately unsafe as a psychological op to raise vaccine hesitancy in rival countries. Putin 1/
2/ is the kind of bastard who'd poison some of his own people to keep the pandemic rolling in the US / EU by getting people refuse a real
3/ vaccine when it's ready because "I don't want to end up like those poor Russians who took it".
DeanSledgehammer
1.Create fake hype 2. Sell this "vaccine" to desperate Trump for big bucks.
Blank1612
Genius
BeerAndChips
Jenius
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
In mother Russia vaccine take you.
Oh, forgot how Americans are indoctrinated to believe only they can produce technology. Russians and the Chinese are more high tech than you
sonofcyrus138
Just like they sent a guy to space and built a nuclear power plant.
Tifandi
do they have a vaccine for all these people "falling" out of windows though? That seems to be quite catchy over there..
jeff28010
Which COD game features Russian zombies?
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
Black Ops 3, DLC pack 3, map called Gorod Krovi
ladymihaelatargaryen
It works.Kills the virus and the patient
BanderasForScale
Super soldier serum! Or krippin virus
loudkittysnores
ibkllokh
Well, russians are actually not that bad in science and their president atleast listens to it...
Goldscuttle
Right? Whether it works or not remains to be seen but at least it is a rational response. People in glass houses, etc.
MarioBoon
The agency that produced Sputnik V has a very decent reputation with the development of vaccines.
So, it's a huge gamble for them to tarnish their reputation for the glory of Putin.
nicouh
They used to be though. I had some russian physics profs, often referring through russian mathematicians and other physicists. But they were
*...referring to Russian...
from the 1st half of 20th century. Russia had a culture of promoting education, schools focused on maths, school math contests, etc. But
as far as I heard all that was abolished the last few decades, now they have less 'geniuses' compared to a 100 years ago, fewer scientists.
Uhxohr
They still are. See the number of STEM graduates in Russia compared to their population, and compare that rate to other countries.
Bruhbeans
Yeah but medical experts agree that the timeframe way to short to have included proper subject testing. Plus the Russians refuse to release
brassmule
The Euro and US made vaccines have already been used in human trials though? How is that different?
Yep, sounds fishy. But still, the post was about something else than that.
The research, it's findings and it's data
PirateRubberDuck
Everyone else refused to release their data to Russia. Why would you expect then to do differently?
flyingmonkeystick
Any idea why? I thought everyone would be sharing data with each other? The whole “We’re in this together” thing.
Thats what I thought until the news came out about Russia and China stealing covid research data.
Everyone else did? Who is "everyone"? If you mean scientific institutes then you're wrong, they do share
CheesecakePi
If nothing more than for a "Ha! We got there first, even without you! Take this proof and shove it!"... yeah. If you're gonna publicly /1
claim that kind of accomplishment to show off how great you are, you better have the proof. If they DID manage to pull it off it would /2
kilo38
Nah. They’re only announcing it cause they know trump will give them $$$ for it and bypass FDA. It won’t be effective of course.
Dimensionsatire
What do you mean? I injected disinfectant and put UV radiation into my lungs and it cleared up my Corona just fine! /s
Freightshaker
My wife and I mixed bleach and ammonia in an enclosed room and inhaled the vapors; worked great!!
steerAwwPrincess
Hey could be worse, could be American under the current administration
Micah1966
Not even 2 months of human trials and they guarantee "long lasting protection," suuuuure.
nxrble
v
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
Give it to the Trump supporters.
AnatolianTiger
https://youtu.be/1ojcUwSlEHk
nickoftime90
My thoughts exactly
malkavian3str
Point here, there are a lot of vaccines that have made as much or more progress as this.
Durklurks
Haha this is exactly what my Russian co-worker said. "It's easy to get through trials when the government tells you and you have no choice"
beepboopbap01
A week or so ago research was hacked from University of Texas. Phase 3 trials are going on near Austin. Chinese consulate was raided ...
SilentScreamsX
They've also attempted to hack British research. The article wasn't clear on if they succeeded or not.
stuhata
My question is why isn’t this open source? I get the capitalist potential but wouldn’t be better for everyone to work together...
... in Huston by FBI. Chimese inside were burning documents. Did someone get info and sell it to Russia? Is this what being a crazy person..
JordD04
There was a major cyber attack on British supercomputers not too long ago. Many of those machines would have contained COVID data.
Nuttsy
If you're a foreign office in a country, and your host raids the place, you'll probably be burning some documents regardless, though.
Dagordae
American embassies have furnaces specifically for burning paperwork. It’s basic procedure, China just wasn’t properly prepared.
... person is like?
oumajgad
Ofc, USA is the only country in which anything gets invented. If something gets invented abroad it was definietely stolen from USA.
EranL
We live in a crazy world
ahairyHoneymonster
Is mother Russia's vaccine now comrade
charminglily832718
At the same time Russia is no chump in fundamental research. What is hairy is their refusal to publish the data for peer research.
* review. Sorry.
mardukkur
Yes, that is what being a crazy person is like.
meresin2718
Once you start paying attention to world events you start noticing stuff like this. Don't get me started on how the world finally beat ISIS.
MushroomFiend
Only slightly. But sometimes crazy people can get it right.
TallDarkndHandsy
I mean who cares as long as it works
PorneliusHubertII
It has been reported that both Russia and China have been stealing vaccine research from other countries.
Is that a thing? Aren’t they all already sharing the information they have?
DamnItTrudyWhatAboutThePineapple
You'd think they would, wouldn't you? People are dying and they still managed to make a pissing contest out of it.
RackhamTheRed
The companies developing them? Fuck no. Why would they? General research data and results from the trials are shared and have to be made
AmenMadness
you seriously implying that the russians stole info from US who did NOTHING from the get go? sure.
westellar
To be fair, you're conflating the gov't and general populace's failures with pharmaceutical companies' desire for profit. Totally different.
jday5
Yes... the US is where most significant scientific discoveries of the last century have happened. The anti US sentiment on this site strong
I think it's more likely the other way around. Take a moment and count how many anti-chinese/russian, or mocking the rest of the world.
DemonFluffer1000
University of Texas.
Wuz314159
Human trials are a lot easier when you have tonnes of political prisoners.
osmbln
No no, they try them with teachers and kindergarteners...........
bobbob1016
He tried it on one of his daughters... Hmmm...
Higure
No matter how many subjects you have, proper procedure still takes a year. Having a million "volunteers" doesn't help you figure out 1/2
any faster whether immunity is retained for a year, or if there are important late-appearing side effects. 2/2
Quylein
I mean usa just labeles them prisoners but sure.
xj4low
Thank goodness our pres has a good relationship with putin.
DrDred
Just like the US!
MrOne2
They're called dedicated patriots that volunteered to be test subjects for the good of the people, comrade.
Pontation
If they used political prisoners, they should have tested on more than 80 people before saying good enough
getmo
PUSSY RIOT
spacecowboyein
Hopefully its still an effective vaccine
RPCd
Look out for the Chinese vaccines. And we will take it and be complicit
Andtheworldwentwhite
I mean that is going to be pretty fucking tough moral decision if China gets the vaccine. Russia's though I think is just bullshit pill.
tanebot
They're even easier when you just... don't.
fourfingersdeep
Yeah it will end up like the Sars vaccine, even Astra zenecc have been granted immunity from any future prosecution
Kapi23
Lmao what about Guantanamo
MindRape
And, if the Nazi's taught anything: medical advancement goes a lot faster if you don't mind killing a lot of people.
somethingawesomeandgreat
Ahem. The human trials start NOW.
Shadonk
I believe it's pronounced "patriotic, willing volunteers".
SociallyAwkwardPenguins
Hello my fellow British imagurian!
Pandabearbearbear
That is terrifying.
Crowbarmaster
YOUR NEXT!!!
AVeryTallGlassOfIToldYouSo
They're outsourcing that to the Philippines and their semi-dictator. Even the Soviets outsource their human rights violations
cuteAF
What the fuck
...my people... what the fuck.
kamow
*mandatory volunteers
Canidbeast
They are not so much political prisoners as they are free subjects for human experimentation.
ThySausagePrince
You can fit so many free subjects in this experiment.
Angmoh
Nazi's did it too. Sadly... but a lot of their research is being used today, since they were scientific, if morally wrong to conduct on ppl
preparationh67
Eh, way less than people think. They did a lot of not actually science.
Sc2Argentum
The data could've been gathered through statistics on accidents. This was faster, but by no means worth the human suffering. It never is.
Never.
One experiment was tossing people into sub zero temp water and seeing how long they stay alive for. Nowadays its used as a base for rescuing
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hoistedbymyownpetard
The US Navy used healthy young recruits and made them do deeper and longer dives with shorter surface times until they got the bends , and -
Sailors or shipwrecked people from arctic waters. I.e. having 72 ? hrs before someone is fully unable to be saved if they're in arctic water
"On analysis, the Dachau hypothermia study has all the ingredients of a scientific fraud, and rejection of the data -
-on purely scientific grounds is inevitable. They cannot advance science or save human lives."
LicensedAdHominem
It's one of the few, though. Most their "research" was plagued by issues beyond even the fact it's been done on concentration camp prisoners
Nah, the temperature experiments were crap too. Turns out malnourished test subjects make for bad science.
ikbeneengeit
America has the largest prison population in the world
Rumpocalypse
Yes, but they have special protections when it comes to medical research in the US.
RJF2009
You’re making a valid point in the wrong area. That aside, you would much rather be a US prisoner than a prisoner in Russia.
macDogeWoof
Neither? Neither? Neither.
Redisia
I mean russian prisons are a low bar...
sinisCheeseAnimal
Both suck, no thanks
TheDudzzly
I've got a tricky one: Would you rather be a political prisoner in Russia, or a minors sex trafficker in a US prison?
harper54
Both
thorkild91
Epstein didn’t die because he trafficked minors. He died because he knew powerful people who raped minors
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
If I’m a minors sex trafficker I get well wishes from the president on national TV, so at least I’d have that going for me.
apneax3n0n
depends on who are your customers in usa. if they are a couple of president it makes different. but polonium is no shit
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Yes, but you see in the US we don't jail people for their political beliefs. We jail them because of their race.
Unless your political belief happens to be racial equality offcourse, then you will get whisked away by unmarked vans.
Imissthe80sandIwanttogohome
DWGifWrecker
https://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/
aoenofhorus
It’s actually the opposite problem, officially. The scientists took it, gave it to a few of their family and friend and called it a trial.
Cargobiker530
You want zombies: this is how you get zombies.
DrDoALittleMoreThanBareMinimum
I mean they're using adenovirus as a carrier for sars-covid surface proteins so at worst you might just have a cold from it... Not zombies
notashill
Never underestimate 2020
IveGotRedOnMe
I never understood how zombies "worked". If their major body functions cease, how does oxygen get transported to the muscles? If no oxygen
2/gets transported to the muscles, then how do their limbs move? How would THEY move? I genuinely think zombies are biologically impossible
Cordyceps Fungi zombify various species of caterpillars. They're not "dead" but not living the way they used to live.
There's only one fungi that's evolved to be present in human body conditions and it's not a zombie fungi.
Do you mean this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis Known commonly as "valley fever."
MurialsCourage
Voodoo.
I like your username and this comment combo
TheCarolingian
tbf that might add a little something extra to 2020 to spice it up a little. Been a dull year so far.
DarthRevan810
Yeah but can we bring the zombie apocalypse next year I still need a play cyberpunk.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
To be fair....there was that bit where NASA admitted to UFOs, but other then that its been flat as a witch's tit
sundaymondayhippyday
Why does a witch have flat tits then?
Right? Like, centuries of witchcraft wouldn't have figured out a spell for giving yourself great big anime tiddies?
Arrofancy
There's nothing I want more than a zombie apocalypse. I'm so prepared.
Semphir
See you after the apocalypse! Maybe we'll smash some zombie skulls together
Necrophilia isn't really my deal but we can meet over a can of beans.
Haha... Well... If that's how you want to define smashing zombie skulls, beans sounds great!
Darkrftr
Russians turn into super mutants October 2020
DrMephistoFromSouthParkColorado
In the comics Abomination was Russian
dm9982
Zedd990
syka
malachilenomade
We could get Black Mountain Radio!
chameleon102
That's right, Rhonda!
MisterLemons
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
replaying F4 now. I hear that tik-tok, I run for the hills and let Piper get nuked yet again.
makeSX
Russian FEV sounds a lot scarier
nekuth
More likely too
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
You ever see that guy with the enormously inflated biceps? Russia has mutants already
pareidoliaperson
At least they can't run fast squating.
They'll be hackin and wackin and smackin
JesusToldMe
Or start the zombie apocalypse... I just hope it's not like I am Legend
Bacxaber
Those were more like vampires. Honestly, with all the weaknesses they have (even excluding holy stuff), I wouldn't be too worried.
The book or the movie? Big difference
I like the omega man movie, just like the book I am legend
SpecialProjectY
This. In the book he was [SPOILER ALERT] ½
The Legend, monster lurking in the day, hunting people changed by the plague trying to restore the civilization. ²
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
The original ending of the Will Smith movie kinda hinted at that, but it didn't play well so they went with the current ending.
Antrazit
Imagine it does work, and the lack of regulations in russia will essentially stop corona months earlier than we would have. What are we
By the time we know, other vaccines will be tested properly as well.
Going to do with that info. I feel like that's a big deal.
Gorgrim
Now imagine it doesn't work, and it only makes the situation worse. The reason why we have regs, is more often than not it's worse case.
stephCandyCreator
Assuming it works, I do wonder if the west would rather let its population and economies die rather than buy it from Russia.
Hendlton
Nah. At worst they'd buy it and lie about it being domestically produced.
It would mean they got extremely lucky and it would make our entire world just a little stupider in the future.
Raeilgunne
it is, and that'd be awesome, but there's also a chance it could do harm or be ineffective on the virus altogether. that's why you test.
Unregulated stuff can be amazing, it can also fuck up big time. It's not that everyone without a license can't drive but I wanna check.
IamfunatpartiesIknow
Because ... you wouldn't be the first? I really don't get your point
RayloKen
Lol. You must be new here. You gota be anti russia here in everyway possible
Except, of course, when the guys here are lusting after russian women. Then its ok
I'm not anti russian (I'm anti many of their gov. policies) but I'm 100% and unapologetically for scientific process for production of meds.
I mean...you know they have a reputation for reason(s) and only reason we GAF is they have nukes. If Russia wasn’t run by Stasi :(
Dinkybutt
I feel the same way about America. Tbh as fucked up as it seems, I trust Putin with nukes more than I do Trump.
turmosoritilaatio
As someone who lives near the russian border I agree with you.
I probably marginally trust military to stop trump but if it was just them alone and a box and button. I'd give it to Putin..which is mental
(sigh) damnit I agree
Its the same story with other world leaders. Take US for example.
somedudeyoumightknow
That's literally Kremlin methods to make every else look bad so they can claim Russia isn't so bad. They are authoritarian run by KGB agent.
dkfox
Prisoners is such a dirty word i prefer guest who can't leave
AtsaMattaForMe
TautologyIsWhatItIs
The secret is that it's vodka.
pandamonstre
kill that bitch Corona with 96% vodka straight in the veins
TautologyIsWhatItIs
Eastern European style what!
taurondir
If Russia creates Covid infected people that are immune, they could win every Olympics from now on.
ThePerks2010
The second he said that his daughter used it I was laughing my bollocks off, blatant divert from protests in Khabarovsk and Belarus
SukhoiSuperjet
The Khabarovsk demonstrations have already lossed steam, and even Russian policy makers have been sympathetic to the Belarussian protests.
MonsieurLeMoustache
This one could actually cause autism
rage3333
No it can't. Because autism developes in the womb
MonsieurLeMoustache
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
"it was never the outbreak that turned us into zombies, it was the so called vaccine...
idontenglishsorry
well you see, at least I can kill zombies without going to jail, I can't kill morons that might potentially spread the virus because 1/2
idontenglishsorry
they refuse to wear a facemask
fbutaric
Thalidomide, remember the poor kids born with no arms, just hands. That is what can go wrong without proper testing over time. 1
rage3333
Yeah, that was in America
fbutaric
2 my guess, tRump will buy vaccine to make himself the hero and hope to save his shit presidency.
TheMazzy
They've done human trials. They skipped large-svale trial vs. placebo. I remain skeptical but if it works than good enough for me.
UnremarkablyInteresting
Annnddd cancer.
tepmoc
Phase 3 still on track, they just want to be "first" on everything. Even pharma lobby said, should wait Phase 3 completion
rawdog
Russia doing a little Trump Razzle Dazzle with the Truth for some fake world interest points...love it.
3P3references
And it's fucking with the stock prices of the pump-n-dump that Fox has been pulling.
ThisUsernameIsTaken123
‘Razzle Dazzle’ is such a great combination of letters
Shinoken
Nope , they probably got it from the Chinese
DrKriegersClone
Or they're going to distribute something deliberately unsafe as a psychological op to raise vaccine hesitancy in rival countries. Putin 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ is the kind of bastard who'd poison some of his own people to keep the pandemic rolling in the US / EU by getting people refuse a real
DrKriegersClone
3/ vaccine when it's ready because "I don't want to end up like those poor Russians who took it".
DeanSledgehammer
1.Create fake hype 2. Sell this "vaccine" to desperate Trump for big bucks.
Blank1612
Genius
BeerAndChips
Jenius
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
In mother Russia vaccine take you.
rage3333
Oh, forgot how Americans are indoctrinated to believe only they can produce technology. Russians and the Chinese are more high tech than you
sonofcyrus138
Just like they sent a guy to space and built a nuclear power plant.
Tifandi
do they have a vaccine for all these people "falling" out of windows though? That seems to be quite catchy over there..
jeff28010
Which COD game features Russian zombies?
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
Black Ops 3, DLC pack 3, map called Gorod Krovi
ladymihaelatargaryen
It works.Kills the virus and the patient
BanderasForScale
Super soldier serum! Or krippin virus
loudkittysnores
ibkllokh
Well, russians are actually not that bad in science and their president atleast listens to it...
Goldscuttle
Right? Whether it works or not remains to be seen but at least it is a rational response. People in glass houses, etc.
MarioBoon
The agency that produced Sputnik V has a very decent reputation with the development of vaccines.
MarioBoon
So, it's a huge gamble for them to tarnish their reputation for the glory of Putin.
nicouh
They used to be though. I had some russian physics profs, often referring through russian mathematicians and other physicists. But they were
nicouh
*...referring to Russian...
nicouh
from the 1st half of 20th century. Russia had a culture of promoting education, schools focused on maths, school math contests, etc. But
nicouh
as far as I heard all that was abolished the last few decades, now they have less 'geniuses' compared to a 100 years ago, fewer scientists.
Uhxohr
They still are. See the number of STEM graduates in Russia compared to their population, and compare that rate to other countries.
Bruhbeans
Yeah but medical experts agree that the timeframe way to short to have included proper subject testing. Plus the Russians refuse to release
brassmule
The Euro and US made vaccines have already been used in human trials though? How is that different?
ibkllokh
Yep, sounds fishy. But still, the post was about something else than that.
Bruhbeans
The research, it's findings and it's data
PirateRubberDuck
Everyone else refused to release their data to Russia. Why would you expect then to do differently?
flyingmonkeystick
Any idea why? I thought everyone would be sharing data with each other? The whole “We’re in this together” thing.
PirateRubberDuck
Thats what I thought until the news came out about Russia and China stealing covid research data.
Bruhbeans
Everyone else did? Who is "everyone"? If you mean scientific institutes then you're wrong, they do share
CheesecakePi
If nothing more than for a "Ha! We got there first, even without you! Take this proof and shove it!"... yeah. If you're gonna publicly /1
CheesecakePi
claim that kind of accomplishment to show off how great you are, you better have the proof. If they DID manage to pull it off it would /2
kilo38
Nah. They’re only announcing it cause they know trump will give them $$$ for it and bypass FDA. It won’t be effective of course.
Dimensionsatire
What do you mean? I injected disinfectant and put UV radiation into my lungs and it cleared up my Corona just fine! /s
Freightshaker
My wife and I mixed bleach and ammonia in an enclosed room and inhaled the vapors; worked great!!
steerAwwPrincess
Hey could be worse, could be American under the current administration
Micah1966
Not even 2 months of human trials and they guarantee "long lasting protection," suuuuure.
nxrble
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
Give it to the Trump supporters.
AnatolianTiger
https://youtu.be/1ojcUwSlEHk
nickoftime90
My thoughts exactly
malkavian3str
Point here, there are a lot of vaccines that have made as much or more progress as this.
Durklurks
Haha this is exactly what my Russian co-worker said. "It's easy to get through trials when the government tells you and you have no choice"
beepboopbap01
A week or so ago research was hacked from University of Texas. Phase 3 trials are going on near Austin. Chinese consulate was raided ...
SilentScreamsX
They've also attempted to hack British research. The article wasn't clear on if they succeeded or not.
stuhata
My question is why isn’t this open source? I get the capitalist potential but wouldn’t be better for everyone to work together...
beepboopbap01
... in Huston by FBI. Chimese inside were burning documents. Did someone get info and sell it to Russia? Is this what being a crazy person..
JordD04
There was a major cyber attack on British supercomputers not too long ago. Many of those machines would have contained COVID data.
Nuttsy
If you're a foreign office in a country, and your host raids the place, you'll probably be burning some documents regardless, though.
Dagordae
American embassies have furnaces specifically for burning paperwork. It’s basic procedure, China just wasn’t properly prepared.
beepboopbap01
... person is like?
oumajgad
Ofc, USA is the only country in which anything gets invented. If something gets invented abroad it was definietely stolen from USA.
EranL
We live in a crazy world
ahairyHoneymonster
Is mother Russia's vaccine now comrade
charminglily832718
At the same time Russia is no chump in fundamental research. What is hairy is their refusal to publish the data for peer research.
charminglily832718
* review. Sorry.
mardukkur
Yes, that is what being a crazy person is like.
meresin2718
Once you start paying attention to world events you start noticing stuff like this. Don't get me started on how the world finally beat ISIS.
MushroomFiend
Only slightly. But sometimes crazy people can get it right.
TallDarkndHandsy
I mean who cares as long as it works
PorneliusHubertII
It has been reported that both Russia and China have been stealing vaccine research from other countries.
flyingmonkeystick
Is that a thing? Aren’t they all already sharing the information they have?
DamnItTrudyWhatAboutThePineapple
You'd think they would, wouldn't you? People are dying and they still managed to make a pissing contest out of it.
RackhamTheRed
The companies developing them? Fuck no. Why would they? General research data and results from the trials are shared and have to be made
AmenMadness
you seriously implying that the russians stole info from US who did NOTHING from the get go? sure.
westellar
To be fair, you're conflating the gov't and general populace's failures with pharmaceutical companies' desire for profit. Totally different.
AmenMadness
jday5
Yes... the US is where most significant scientific discoveries of the last century have happened. The anti US sentiment on this site strong
AmenMadness
I think it's more likely the other way around. Take a moment and count how many anti-chinese/russian, or mocking the rest of the world.
DemonFluffer1000
University of Texas.
Wuz314159
Human trials are a lot easier when you have tonnes of political prisoners.
osmbln
No no, they try them with teachers and kindergarteners...........
bobbob1016
He tried it on one of his daughters... Hmmm...
Higure
No matter how many subjects you have, proper procedure still takes a year. Having a million "volunteers" doesn't help you figure out 1/2
Higure
any faster whether immunity is retained for a year, or if there are important late-appearing side effects. 2/2
Quylein
I mean usa just labeles them prisoners but sure.
xj4low
Thank goodness our pres has a good relationship with putin.
DrDred
Just like the US!
MrOne2
They're called dedicated patriots that volunteered to be test subjects for the good of the people, comrade.
Pontation
If they used political prisoners, they should have tested on more than 80 people before saying good enough
getmo
PUSSY RIOT
spacecowboyein
Hopefully its still an effective vaccine
RPCd
Look out for the Chinese vaccines. And we will take it and be complicit
Andtheworldwentwhite
I mean that is going to be pretty fucking tough moral decision if China gets the vaccine. Russia's though I think is just bullshit pill.
tanebot
They're even easier when you just... don't.
fourfingersdeep
Yeah it will end up like the Sars vaccine, even Astra zenecc have been granted immunity from any future prosecution
Kapi23
Lmao what about Guantanamo
MindRape
And, if the Nazi's taught anything: medical advancement goes a lot faster if you don't mind killing a lot of people.
somethingawesomeandgreat
Ahem. The human trials start NOW.
Shadonk
I believe it's pronounced "patriotic, willing volunteers".
SociallyAwkwardPenguins
Hello my fellow British imagurian!
Pandabearbearbear
That is terrifying.
Crowbarmaster
YOUR NEXT!!!
AVeryTallGlassOfIToldYouSo
They're outsourcing that to the Philippines and their semi-dictator. Even the Soviets outsource their human rights violations
cuteAF
What the fuck
cuteAF
...my people... what the fuck.
kamow
*mandatory volunteers
Canidbeast
They are not so much political prisoners as they are free subjects for human experimentation.
ThySausagePrince
You can fit so many free subjects in this experiment.
Angmoh
Nazi's did it too. Sadly... but a lot of their research is being used today, since they were scientific, if morally wrong to conduct on ppl
preparationh67
Eh, way less than people think. They did a lot of not actually science.
Sc2Argentum
The data could've been gathered through statistics on accidents. This was faster, but by no means worth the human suffering. It never is.
Sc2Argentum
Never.
Angmoh
One experiment was tossing people into sub zero temp water and seeing how long they stay alive for. Nowadays its used as a base for rescuing
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hoistedbymyownpetard
The US Navy used healthy young recruits and made them do deeper and longer dives with shorter surface times until they got the bends , and -
Angmoh
Sailors or shipwrecked people from arctic waters. I.e. having 72 ? hrs before someone is fully unable to be saved if they're in arctic water
Nuttsy
"On analysis, the Dachau hypothermia study has all the ingredients of a scientific fraud, and rejection of the data -
Nuttsy
-on purely scientific grounds is inevitable. They cannot advance science or save human lives."
LicensedAdHominem
It's one of the few, though. Most their "research" was plagued by issues beyond even the fact it's been done on concentration camp prisoners
Nuttsy
Nah, the temperature experiments were crap too. Turns out malnourished test subjects make for bad science.
ikbeneengeit
America has the largest prison population in the world
Rumpocalypse
Yes, but they have special protections when it comes to medical research in the US.
RJF2009
You’re making a valid point in the wrong area. That aside, you would much rather be a US prisoner than a prisoner in Russia.
macDogeWoof
Neither? Neither? Neither.
Redisia
I mean russian prisons are a low bar...
sinisCheeseAnimal
Both suck, no thanks
TheDudzzly
I've got a tricky one: Would you rather be a political prisoner in Russia, or a minors sex trafficker in a US prison?
harper54
Both
thorkild91
Epstein didn’t die because he trafficked minors. He died because he knew powerful people who raped minors
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
If I’m a minors sex trafficker I get well wishes from the president on national TV, so at least I’d have that going for me.
apneax3n0n
depends on who are your customers in usa. if they are a couple of president it makes different. but polonium is no shit
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Yes, but you see in the US we don't jail people for their political beliefs. We jail them because of their race.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Unless your political belief happens to be racial equality offcourse, then you will get whisked away by unmarked vans.
Imissthe80sandIwanttogohome
DWGifWrecker
https://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/
aoenofhorus
It’s actually the opposite problem, officially. The scientists took it, gave it to a few of their family and friend and called it a trial.
Cargobiker530
You want zombies: this is how you get zombies.
DrDoALittleMoreThanBareMinimum
I mean they're using adenovirus as a carrier for sars-covid surface proteins so at worst you might just have a cold from it... Not zombies
notashill
Never underestimate 2020
IveGotRedOnMe
I never understood how zombies "worked". If their major body functions cease, how does oxygen get transported to the muscles? If no oxygen
IveGotRedOnMe
2/gets transported to the muscles, then how do their limbs move? How would THEY move? I genuinely think zombies are biologically impossible
Cargobiker530
Cordyceps Fungi zombify various species of caterpillars. They're not "dead" but not living the way they used to live.
IveGotRedOnMe
There's only one fungi that's evolved to be present in human body conditions and it's not a zombie fungi.
Cargobiker530
Do you mean this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis Known commonly as "valley fever."
MurialsCourage
Voodoo.
IveGotRedOnMe
I like your username and this comment combo
TheCarolingian
tbf that might add a little something extra to 2020 to spice it up a little. Been a dull year so far.
DarthRevan810
Yeah but can we bring the zombie apocalypse next year I still need a play cyberpunk.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
To be fair....there was that bit where NASA admitted to UFOs, but other then that its been flat as a witch's tit
sundaymondayhippyday
Why does a witch have flat tits then?
sundaymondayhippyday
Why does a witch have flat tits then?
DrKriegersClone
Right? Like, centuries of witchcraft wouldn't have figured out a spell for giving yourself great big anime tiddies?
Arrofancy
There's nothing I want more than a zombie apocalypse. I'm so prepared.
Semphir
See you after the apocalypse! Maybe we'll smash some zombie skulls together
Arrofancy
Necrophilia isn't really my deal but we can meet over a can of beans.
Semphir
Haha... Well... If that's how you want to define smashing zombie skulls, beans sounds great!
Darkrftr
Russians turn into super mutants October 2020
DrMephistoFromSouthParkColorado
In the comics Abomination was Russian
dm9982
Zedd990
syka
malachilenomade
We could get Black Mountain Radio!
chameleon102
That's right, Rhonda!
MisterLemons
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
replaying F4 now. I hear that tik-tok, I run for the hills and let Piper get nuked yet again.
makeSX
Russian FEV sounds a lot scarier
nekuth
More likely too
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
You ever see that guy with the enormously inflated biceps? Russia has mutants already
pareidoliaperson
At least they can't run fast squating.
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
They'll be hackin and wackin and smackin
JesusToldMe
Or start the zombie apocalypse... I just hope it's not like I am Legend
Bacxaber
Those were more like vampires. Honestly, with all the weaknesses they have (even excluding holy stuff), I wouldn't be too worried.
Darkrftr
The book or the movie? Big difference
Darkrftr
I like the omega man movie, just like the book I am legend
SpecialProjectY
This. In the book he was [SPOILER ALERT] ½
SpecialProjectY
The Legend, monster lurking in the day, hunting people changed by the plague trying to restore the civilization. ²
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
The original ending of the Will Smith movie kinda hinted at that, but it didn't play well so they went with the current ending.
Antrazit
Imagine it does work, and the lack of regulations in russia will essentially stop corona months earlier than we would have. What are we
malkavian3str
By the time we know, other vaccines will be tested properly as well.
Antrazit
Going to do with that info. I feel like that's a big deal.
Gorgrim
Now imagine it doesn't work, and it only makes the situation worse. The reason why we have regs, is more often than not it's worse case.
stephCandyCreator
Assuming it works, I do wonder if the west would rather let its population and economies die rather than buy it from Russia.
Hendlton
Nah. At worst they'd buy it and lie about it being domestically produced.
mardukkur
It would mean they got extremely lucky and it would make our entire world just a little stupider in the future.
Raeilgunne
it is, and that'd be awesome, but there's also a chance it could do harm or be ineffective on the virus altogether. that's why you test.
Andtheworldwentwhite
Unregulated stuff can be amazing, it can also fuck up big time. It's not that everyone without a license can't drive but I wanna check.
IamfunatpartiesIknow
Because ... you wouldn't be the first? I really don't get your point
RayloKen
Lol. You must be new here. You gota be anti russia here in everyway possible
RayloKen
Except, of course, when the guys here are lusting after russian women. Then its ok
Andtheworldwentwhite
I'm not anti russian (I'm anti many of their gov. policies) but I'm 100% and unapologetically for scientific process for production of meds.
nxrble
I mean...you know they have a reputation for reason(s) and only reason we GAF is they have nukes. If Russia wasn’t run by Stasi :(
Dinkybutt
I feel the same way about America. Tbh as fucked up as it seems, I trust Putin with nukes more than I do Trump.
turmosoritilaatio
As someone who lives near the russian border I agree with you.
Andtheworldwentwhite
I probably marginally trust military to stop trump but if it was just them alone and a box and button. I'd give it to Putin..which is mental
nxrble
(sigh) damnit I agree
RayloKen
Its the same story with other world leaders. Take US for example.
somedudeyoumightknow
That's literally Kremlin methods to make every else look bad so they can claim Russia isn't so bad. They are authoritarian run by KGB agent.