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Colopty
The downside is of course that the ring prevents you from wearing gloves, so your fingerprints will be all over the crime scene.
QuigleyDownUnder
Well us non criminals should also do this too
Jheklstuff
Pretty sure I've seen this image before the advent of AI imagery.
IAmDrBanner
I don't get it. What are you not believing? That someone said it? That this product is real? That nobody would have this idea?
antonibagis
6 finger discount ?
AtsaMattaForMe
ElbowDeepInAMoose
Do you always begin conversations like this?
StevieTheAussie
v
Theg00dshepard
Is this for the ole razzel dazzle shocker action? -asking for a friend
bobcarr666
They will now...
Eldis
Fuck yes.
ivel501
I already plan on wearing a fake head on top of my hat when murder drones with a shape cxharge aim for the forehead.
eugene51
I thought it was something other than a finger at first. ?
sevenfingers
Ima have to try this
HollerinAtTheVoid
Well….now they will
embodymentofgattaca
This is why AI has issues. We're confusing it with OUR craziness
Emuc64
"If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, o-ohh"A ring finger, on a ring finger, on a ring finger-ception.
TexasRed19
*Laughs in UK CCTV video quality*
Firestar002
Yo. Imagine proposing with that ring
thisisausernamelikeanyothersbutthisonesmellsweird
extra butt scratcher attachment
NLOVNI
Oh yeah. That'll fool 'em
CaptSchmidtGaming
if man can make it man can break it. Authoritarianism has always been an unappreciated joke.
Shaodyn
Not even the funny kind, either. More of the kind that thinks it's funny but is actually stupid.
ThanosTheGreat
4 in the pink and 2 in the stink…
Minivan: 2 up front 5 in the rear
ImOnlyInItForTheKittiesAndTitties
School bus: 1 in front and 72 in the rear
LongoloidFartExplosion
I knew a guy with a third thumb.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
Modern problems require modern solutions
Iaimtomisbehave
I think the tiny hands are more useful: ?3
AllAnusMorissette
FishieStardust
Sunnofabitch. I had a gif for this but even though I favorited it it's gone. Again.
i7hqag58ur5
Please
calis
I need one of those. My wife might enjoy it.
Tarmaccian
Criminals often don’t bother to wear gloves or face coverings. They won’t bother with false fingers, either.
TheJuiceLoosener
Seriously. Turn off the TV, armchair criminologists!
IndigoThursday
Only unsuccessful ones
colgac09
You have to prove the authenticity of the photos and video. This would do nothing
moricai
Honestly, the hand issue will probably be sorted out before AI generated images are addressed in a court of law
It’s already handled (hah!) in newer tech, but now it’s a meme, so it’ll persist in myth.
oblimo
Is it handled by good prompts or somesuch? What software would you recommend?
TheRicM
What hand issue
Bastetsmorlock
@BotDrawA normal human hand.
BotDrawA
@Bastetsmorlock Here's your drawing of a "normal human hand."
@Bastetsmorlock Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "normal human hand., as a Terminator, in st
Some AI has a hard time generating realistic hands, they tend to have too many/too few fingers or weird webbing
Ah, got it, thanks!
What causes the hand issue in the first place? It may be inherent in the algorithm (the root cause that is, not the hand expression of it).
SolaceAvatar
It knows fingers go by fingers but it doesn't know how to count
Temzilla
This type of image generator works via a combination of deep learning and corrections. You ask it to generate an apple, then you go itterate
Hands are troublesome because they are a very complex 3d object, which can be largely independently rotated relative to the wrist.
The trial/error/corrections process takes a much much longer time, and the logic for potential "good" hands at many angles is more complex.
afambelafonte
I'm 100% certain that a dumbass judge with a dumbass jury would allow real actual AI images as evidence and send someone to prison with it.
Eramik
Well, the photo showed him to be black.... /s
thoushaltnotpass
Ever heard of "polygraph"? It wouldn't be the first time dummy evidence would make it to the case
DropDrop
In the US, it's better safe than sorry, send the innocent to prison just in cast.
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
Well, for the incredibly rich untouchable criminals of our era, (or cops) even a real video doesn’t work.
ucandcantunc
maybe just lazy….
cragath
Nah, it'll be a problem when a smart, legitimate judge does this. And then it turns out, it wasn't the judge.
Hammertulski
There's certainly precedent for that level of fucking idiocy in the court system, that's for sure.
wetAnimal
Gotta get those sweet sweet prison kickbacks for keeping the prisons full and profitable! Fuck the profit prison system!!
CelestialSea
They already allow similar BS 'evidence' www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/four-problems-with-the-shotspotter-gunshot-detection-system
werdna167
As an attorney you are 100000% correct. It will become a disaster.
anujvelu
As an attorney you may have to get a mathematician to testify if such % are possible.
DSREX
As an attorney you have to admit that our Justice system is a revenge system and broadly broken. I hope you fight everyday to fix it
jnoahj
If the defendant is not white they won't even need the AI pictures to wrongly convict. Gotta fill those slave labor billets in the prisons.
gypsyspot
they don't need fake images to falsely send people to prison, just send them there based on the prosecutors good record
LetMeSeeMyKids
Photos, videos, audio etc are able to vetted for authenticity by both sides, prosecution or plaintiff and defendant, in trials.
zealabyrinth
As someone who took a sociopath to court this is a lie. Our legal system is about lazy fucking rich judges and lawyers halfassing their jobs
AntiProtonBoy
If you have the money to do so
channelranger
people have been proven innocent and not let out after being wrongly convicted so, not unlikely.
CarlottaVonSprockett
That’s so terrifying to me. The idea that you could dig up evidence of innocence, and the court can just be like “Nah, stay in jail and /1
It hurts the reputation of the people involved. Reputation is power. Losing power is not an option. Human rights are nothing to them.
Sad but true.
rot anyway lmfao we don’t care!” 2/2
wazeewa
How does that even happen? "Oh, you served 8 of 10 years despite being innocent? Yea you can just finish it!"
As I understand (and resident legal folks feel free to correct me!) the system basically doesn’t want prisoners to constantly waste time /1
Volpe42
Tons of people have been convicted on eye witness accounts
Treblaine
That's the opposite of Artificial Intelligence, that's Genuine Stupidity.
ALLCAPSROCK
Blind in one eye I was, also had a bad infection in the good eye that day plus the sun was low & in my field of view & it was across the way
Perkunas687
I too have witnessed the Great Eye, floating above Luxembourg in judgment; is my testimony as prophet thus invalid??
BubblesTheFish
https://preview.redd.it/81aeg51in0jx.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5ad9c8a8d76c895f57a7c25e76bee83bfeb82826
FractalChainsaw
Fuckin amazing man, made my day!
GpaSags
Wait, there's no I in Luxembourg!
orangatuan
They said above Luxembourg, not in it.
DarkwingDuc
Which have repeatedly been proven unreliable: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/ and (1/2)
ProphetofEntropy
yup, and the court holds 'eye witness' statements as extremely credible just like the word of police.
(2/2) https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-13-3-c-how-reliable-are-eyewitnesses
That's my point...
Yeah, of course. That's why I provided more context to support your point.
BatmanAndCradleRobin
I can't be a reliable eye witness for if I locked my fucking door, Imagine trusting me to identify some guy in a hood I saw from 200m away
No one can in reality.
cryborg
@BotDrawA thief's hands
@cryborg Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "thief's hands, sand sculpture, photograph in styl
ilovedogknots
Oh shit top left looks like a real hand
Twrecks123
Top left is almost normal
But4y
@BotDrawA feet with hands
@But4y Here's your drawing of a "feet with hands"
@But4y Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "feet with hands"
isthisdepression
@But4y: But for why, did you do this?
I figured it would be worse if you did feet and hands and i was right
NotTinyPancakes
@BotDrawA human hand
@NotTinyPancakes Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "human hand, champlevé enamel, by Giuseppe
@NotTinyPancakes Here's your drawing of a "human hand"
So close buddy so close I mean you already draw hands better than me but you're almost there bot friend :D
circlebreaker
Neat. Top-left is never going to drop any size of envelope with that hand.
bladderinfection
@BotDrawA a hand shaking a hand shaking a hand
[NSFW] @bladderinfection Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "a hand shaking a hand shaking a h
Astronauts in front of cherry blossoms!
M1ssPlace
Cherry blossoms in space!
@bladderinfection Here's your drawing of a "a hand shaking a hand shaking a hand"
Mass Effect quarians be like
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Jesus fuck, imagine going to shake someone's hand and they just... fuckin' grab it. Like top right.
Already have. Find any tall Greek man weighing 275+ lbs and they'll shake your hand like this.
@cryborg Here's your drawing of a "thief's hands"
Top right: Sith vibes Bottom right: Monkey feets
I want top rights outfit
RummageSaleBubbler
Near Seattle? Go to Panache Clothing or The New York Xchange.
Alas I am in New Zealand
CrimeBrulee
@botdrawa cryborg portrait, realistic
@CrimeBrulee Here's your drawing of a "cryborg portrait, realistic"
@cryborg: Is the bot right?
@CrimeBrulee Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "cryborg portrait, realistic, at a table full
DangerBaer
Bottom right is just missing a riding crop.
Plot twist, it's just jammed into the bottom's bottom.
Colopty
The downside is of course that the ring prevents you from wearing gloves, so your fingerprints will be all over the crime scene.
QuigleyDownUnder
Well us non criminals should also do this too
Jheklstuff
Pretty sure I've seen this image before the advent of AI imagery.
IAmDrBanner
I don't get it. What are you not believing? That someone said it? That this product is real? That nobody would have this idea?
antonibagis
6 finger discount ?
AtsaMattaForMe
ElbowDeepInAMoose
Do you always begin conversations like this?
StevieTheAussie
Theg00dshepard
Is this for the ole razzel dazzle shocker action? -asking for a friend
bobcarr666
They will now...
Eldis
Fuck yes.
ivel501
I already plan on wearing a fake head on top of my hat when murder drones with a shape cxharge aim for the forehead.
eugene51
I thought it was something other than a finger at first. ?
sevenfingers
Ima have to try this
HollerinAtTheVoid
Well….now they will
embodymentofgattaca
This is why AI has issues. We're confusing it with OUR craziness
Emuc64
"If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, o-ohh"
A ring finger, on a ring finger, on a ring finger-ception.
TexasRed19
*Laughs in UK CCTV video quality*
Firestar002
Yo. Imagine proposing with that ring
thisisausernamelikeanyothersbutthisonesmellsweird
extra butt scratcher attachment
NLOVNI
Oh yeah. That'll fool 'em
CaptSchmidtGaming
if man can make it man can break it. Authoritarianism has always been an unappreciated joke.
Shaodyn
Not even the funny kind, either. More of the kind that thinks it's funny but is actually stupid.
ThanosTheGreat
4 in the pink and 2 in the stink…
ElbowDeepInAMoose
Minivan: 2 up front 5 in the rear
ImOnlyInItForTheKittiesAndTitties
School bus: 1 in front and 72 in the rear
LongoloidFartExplosion
I knew a guy with a third thumb.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
Modern problems require modern solutions
Iaimtomisbehave
I think the tiny hands are more useful:
?3
AllAnusMorissette
AtsaMattaForMe
FishieStardust
Sunnofabitch. I had a gif for this but even though I favorited it it's gone. Again.
i7hqag58ur5
Please
calis
I need one of those. My wife might enjoy it.
Tarmaccian
Criminals often don’t bother to wear gloves or face coverings. They won’t bother with false fingers, either.
TheJuiceLoosener
Seriously. Turn off the TV, armchair criminologists!
IndigoThursday
Only unsuccessful ones
colgac09
You have to prove the authenticity of the photos and video. This would do nothing
moricai
Honestly, the hand issue will probably be sorted out before AI generated images are addressed in a court of law
Tarmaccian
It’s already handled (hah!) in newer tech, but now it’s a meme, so it’ll persist in myth.
oblimo
Is it handled by good prompts or somesuch? What software would you recommend?
TheRicM
What hand issue
Bastetsmorlock
@BotDrawA normal human hand.
BotDrawA
@Bastetsmorlock Here's your drawing of a "normal human hand."
BotDrawA
@Bastetsmorlock Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "normal human hand., as a Terminator, in st
moricai
Some AI has a hard time generating realistic hands, they tend to have too many/too few fingers or weird webbing
TheRicM
Ah, got it, thanks!
oblimo
What causes the hand issue in the first place? It may be inherent in the algorithm (the root cause that is, not the hand expression of it).
SolaceAvatar
It knows fingers go by fingers but it doesn't know how to count
Temzilla
This type of image generator works via a combination of deep learning and corrections. You ask it to generate an apple, then you go itterate
Temzilla
Hands are troublesome because they are a very complex 3d object, which can be largely independently rotated relative to the wrist.
Temzilla
The trial/error/corrections process takes a much much longer time, and the logic for potential "good" hands at many angles is more complex.
afambelafonte
I'm 100% certain that a dumbass judge with a dumbass jury would allow real actual AI images as evidence and send someone to prison with it.
Eramik
Well, the photo showed him to be black.... /s
thoushaltnotpass
Ever heard of "polygraph"? It wouldn't be the first time dummy evidence would make it to the case
DropDrop
In the US, it's better safe than sorry, send the innocent to prison just in cast.
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
Well, for the incredibly rich untouchable criminals of our era, (or cops) even a real video doesn’t work.
ucandcantunc
maybe just lazy….
cragath
Nah, it'll be a problem when a smart, legitimate judge does this. And then it turns out, it wasn't the judge.
Hammertulski
There's certainly precedent for that level of fucking idiocy in the court system, that's for sure.
wetAnimal
Gotta get those sweet sweet prison kickbacks for keeping the prisons full and profitable! Fuck the profit prison system!!
CelestialSea
They already allow similar BS 'evidence' www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/four-problems-with-the-shotspotter-gunshot-detection-system
werdna167
As an attorney you are 100000% correct. It will become a disaster.
anujvelu
As an attorney you may have to get a mathematician to testify if such % are possible.
DSREX
As an attorney you have to admit that our Justice system is a revenge system and broadly broken. I hope you fight everyday to fix it
jnoahj
If the defendant is not white they won't even need the AI pictures to wrongly convict. Gotta fill those slave labor billets in the prisons.
gypsyspot
they don't need fake images to falsely send people to prison, just send them there based on the prosecutors good record
LetMeSeeMyKids
Photos, videos, audio etc are able to vetted for authenticity by both sides, prosecution or plaintiff and defendant, in trials.
zealabyrinth
As someone who took a sociopath to court this is a lie. Our legal system is about lazy fucking rich judges and lawyers halfassing their jobs
AntiProtonBoy
If you have the money to do so
channelranger
people have been proven innocent and not let out after being wrongly convicted so, not unlikely.
CarlottaVonSprockett
That’s so terrifying to me. The idea that you could dig up evidence of innocence, and the court can just be like “Nah, stay in jail and /1
Eldis
It hurts the reputation of the people involved. Reputation is power. Losing power is not an option. Human rights are nothing to them.
CarlottaVonSprockett
Sad but true.
CarlottaVonSprockett
rot anyway lmfao we don’t care!” 2/2
wazeewa
How does that even happen? "Oh, you served 8 of 10 years despite being innocent? Yea you can just finish it!"
CarlottaVonSprockett
As I understand (and resident legal folks feel free to correct me!) the system basically doesn’t want prisoners to constantly waste time /1
Volpe42
Tons of people have been convicted on eye witness accounts
Treblaine
That's the opposite of Artificial Intelligence, that's Genuine Stupidity.
ALLCAPSROCK
Blind in one eye I was, also had a bad infection in the good eye that day plus the sun was low & in my field of view & it was across the way
Perkunas687
I too have witnessed the Great Eye, floating above Luxembourg in judgment; is my testimony as prophet thus invalid??
BubblesTheFish
https://preview.redd.it/81aeg51in0jx.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5ad9c8a8d76c895f57a7c25e76bee83bfeb82826
FractalChainsaw
Perkunas687
Fuckin amazing man, made my day!
GpaSags
Wait, there's no I in Luxembourg!
orangatuan
They said above Luxembourg, not in it.
DarkwingDuc
Which have repeatedly been proven unreliable: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/ and (1/2)
ProphetofEntropy
yup, and the court holds 'eye witness' statements as extremely credible just like the word of police.
DarkwingDuc
(2/2) https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-13-3-c-how-reliable-are-eyewitnesses
Volpe42
That's my point...
DarkwingDuc
Yeah, of course. That's why I provided more context to support your point.
BatmanAndCradleRobin
I can't be a reliable eye witness for if I locked my fucking door, Imagine trusting me to identify some guy in a hood I saw from 200m away
Volpe42
No one can in reality.
cryborg
@BotDrawA thief's hands
BotDrawA
@cryborg Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "thief's hands, sand sculpture, photograph in styl
ilovedogknots
Oh shit top left looks like a real hand
Twrecks123
Top left is almost normal
But4y
@BotDrawA feet with hands
BotDrawA
@But4y Here's your drawing of a "feet with hands"
BotDrawA
@But4y Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "feet with hands"
isthisdepression
@But4y: But for why, did you do this?
But4y
I figured it would be worse if you did feet and hands and i was right
NotTinyPancakes
@BotDrawA human hand
BotDrawA
@NotTinyPancakes Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "human hand, champlevé enamel, by Giuseppe
BotDrawA
@NotTinyPancakes Here's your drawing of a "human hand"
NotTinyPancakes
So close buddy so close I mean you already draw hands better than me but you're almost there bot friend :D
circlebreaker
Neat. Top-left is never going to drop any size of envelope with that hand.
bladderinfection
@BotDrawA a hand shaking a hand shaking a hand
BotDrawA
[NSFW] @bladderinfection Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "a hand shaking a hand shaking a h
cryborg
Astronauts in front of cherry blossoms!
M1ssPlace
Cherry blossoms in space!
BotDrawA
@bladderinfection Here's your drawing of a "a hand shaking a hand shaking a hand"
NotTinyPancakes
Mass Effect quarians be like
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Jesus fuck, imagine going to shake someone's hand and they just... fuckin' grab it. Like top right.
circlebreaker
Already have. Find any tall Greek man weighing 275+ lbs and they'll shake your hand like this.
BotDrawA
@cryborg Here's your drawing of a "thief's hands"
ElbowDeepInAMoose
Top right: Sith vibes Bottom right: Monkey feets
NotTinyPancakes
I want top rights outfit
RummageSaleBubbler
Near Seattle? Go to Panache Clothing or The New York Xchange.
NotTinyPancakes
Alas I am in New Zealand
CrimeBrulee
@botdrawa cryborg portrait, realistic
BotDrawA
@CrimeBrulee Here's your drawing of a "cryborg portrait, realistic"
RummageSaleBubbler
@cryborg: Is the bot right?
cryborg
BotDrawA
@CrimeBrulee Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "cryborg portrait, realistic, at a table full
DangerBaer
Bottom right is just missing a riding crop.
circlebreaker
Plot twist, it's just jammed into the bottom's bottom.