May 26, 2021 2:50 AM
thatbuilderdude
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goouch
my kind of porn
bigkingdingaling
The only way to build a deck so that the railings meet normal building code is to put them like you did. Nice work.
Thank you!
IncrediRis
id walk down those so hard
or up - whatever’s your pleasure
Both please!
myballshurt
Sexy as hell my friend, killin it
Thank you much!
isetprettygirlsonfire
Solid post(s)
mbungle87
When the lumber used for the deck is worth more than the house.
HotCarle
Inspector here. Are you driving a car on this? Save some lumber for the rest of us!
Lmao, sorry Carle I can’t help myself. First time working this township and I want to start on a good foot with the township!
IDontGiveAMousesDonkey
You shouldn't be flaunting your wealth so much
ControversialLeftistLesbian
Don't forget to add the floor.
Marine0311
That's ridiculously over engineered and complicated. Building steps like that costs more than needed, wastes materials, and time.
I disagree completely. An extra half day and $175 in materials is a no brainer, if you want a wobbly, squeaky, messy deck, then go for it!
Disagree all you want, I used to build decks too, you dont need that much blocking, and the post design for the railing is overly complex.
HomeDepotAisle15
Nice Deck Pics!
ijustwantacoolusernamethatisavailabletoo
You know the rules! Completed project first picture then the "steps" @op
TheMinty
Structural technician here: those steps are super overkill. driving a 4 wheeler up them steps?
Looks good though
RichardPicture
I subscribe to the "what if I own a tank and want to park it in the living room?" methodology. This overdoneness resonates with me.
laacis2
The trouble is when all those little pieces start coroding around screwholes. Things start falling off over time!
They are exterior coated, they won’t corrode for a very long time
Bonchoman
lightray
That's bloody overkill, that's what it is!
Nahh
Well, ok.
Jamroast
Not sure if 5 stringers is enough,,,, o_0
It’s actually the minimum requirement for the deck boards I used ??
w1q1
Watch out for "attractive nuisance" (check local laws). That yellow tape probably wouldn't hold up in court. Get treads and rails up ASAP.
That’s smart. Homeowners are very aware to be nowhere near it, but I didn’t think of people doing things on purpose. Thanks!
whydoIgetsomanypics
Hey, nice deck.
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
Wanna come fix the deck my contractors just fucked up?
arrowfred
Must be some fat ass lard buckets gonna climb up that deck! Damn.
michaelhmbuild6
How to turn 3 days of work into 4 weeks. Milk it into overkill oblivion.
The post framing+ stringer blocking took me 4 hours myself. I sleep at night very well knowing my work will not receive call backs
martineb72
It seems almost overbuilt. 5 joists and 2 blocks on every step.
Decking calls for 9-10” centers minimum, and picture frame treads new the blocking for miters to rest on and attach to.
UneventfulLover
ESL, is this what you refer to as "big deck energy"?
mobileimgurlags
We need @AlphaStructural to approve this overkill
QuaneriousPlumm
That thing will never fall down or crack with all those beams.
Queenroo
Posts. Not beams
I sure hope not!
MrKnowItAll1903
Eventually water always wins, but this deck will outlive its builder. After that, it's someone else's problem.
Bystandr
Its nice pressure treated wood, will last ~15 years like that, but paint or varnish it all around (underside too) and paint the bottom 2
inches of the posts with creosote (warning carcinogenic, also cover with paint) and it will last ~50+ years.
WizardCastingShade
That bottom step wood is not making contact with the concrete right?
G tape applied on the bottom of stringers
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Strong enough for even your mom to walk up and fown
thrashingcows
Well then now I’m suffering from Deck envy...like I need something else to feel inferior about...Thanks OP! ?
Fleaofpain
You could always ask to sit on OP's big hard deck.
Volimar
Trim the bushes around your deck to make it look bigger.
chezbarnhouse1
You are a real size queen i guess. There's not ONE bush around that deck now and you want it trimmed to look bigger. Sheesh?
wutwutinthebuttt
I’m no carpenters.. I dabble.. but this seems overkill?
rainevasquez
Seriously
CptCronos
As someone who's delivered appliances on far worse built decks, I appreciate how sturdy this looks. If it's over 40 inches wide I love it.
Ahhhh. Another connoisseur of the curvy woman!
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
It is Correct for composite decking. Most manufacturers recommend stringers be 9-10 inch on center. Im a pro builder. I Do this everyday.
detour512
I too am a pro and enjoy hitting the wood with my hammers and adjoining the recycled wood to other wet green wood, jk sturdy AF looks nice.
I guess that's a no for composite decking from me then.
303SnowWolf
Trust me, you don't want it. The manufacturer will promise you the world but it's still plastic and its still gonna turn to junk in 5 years
yanni
Am a Carpenter , not overkill, can confirm
Thanks for the support ??
rowanmc
Obviously you don't live in the Midwest...people are...bigger...here.
imgursample
If you live in the US, it's not uncommon to have a 400lb friend or two. I do.
DisenfranchisedSovietBear
Maybe op will have 40 people on his deck
iseepointycenterofareola
The fit and finish looks great. I would have liked to have seen the 4x4s as actual posts, all the way down to the ground.
That'd be cool but I think they would need to restructure it a bit for the handrail to work better.
Do you think posts attached to slab with post/Crete hardware is safe to do?
I had figured it would be totally firm but there is a tiny bit of bounce if I jump on it, I’m going to add center 4x4s so it’s totally solid
ravnsulter
Norwegian here. This is at least 3 times the building code here.
Overkill to some I’m sure! 5 stringers needed for Azek decking, and I hate wobbly posts so I secured the hell out of them. Worth it to me ??
Amature here. Posts and stringer count look good to me. Why the horizontal 2x8s between the two outer stringers? Won't treads secure this?
BREED09
Extra blocking never hurts
It’s for the miters of the picture framed treads to land on and secure to. If you don’t have solid underneath they get wonky
Picture framed treads... very nice! A thing of beauty is a joy for ever.
The quality shows. And I’m the same way. I just couldn’t imagine it needed that much support
dragon1freak
Id do the same lol. My dad added a second story to our garage and used a metal I beam to support the floor. Inspector said it was overkill 1
But dad didn't want the floor to bounce. Now i always go over the top when doing the supporting parts of my projects
I love to hear this. I’d rather have the inspector say it’s too good than not good enough! Floor bounce does not scream “quality!” Haha
scr1bbl3
Totally worth it to support the outer most edge of the steps as well as inhibiting any “bounce”. I’m with you OP ?
KismetCrew
Looks like a sweet ramp, and I can't wait to see you take the quad off that for an awesome jump!
Sucequoidonc
So you're a 'I wear two condoms' kind of guy...
CangodCreateAStoneItCannotLift
Those are rookie numbers.
Jesus, what the hell you doing? You battling covidaidsbola with your units or what.
Those are rookie rubbers
Yep!
GreatWhiteNorthEh
Overkill is always better than underkill.... which is what happens to people who cheap out on their stairs.
rabbu2
Looks great
Bluekitten03
There's no kill like overkill!
MedicSailor
That, in its current state, looks wide enough and strong enough to drive an ATV up it
Lol I’m sure it could take it!
MrAitch2U
Anything worth doing is worth over-doing. I concur. Looks awesome.
aharami
Not with current lumber prices
Im not going to sacrifice quality because lumber is more expensive. My customers pay the inflated price and I deliver a lasting product!
(Belgian here) So it is worldwide?!
SomeGuyWhoShapeshiftsSometimes
Seems to be global (in in the US and it's definitely here)
StaticXster70
How can you afford 3 mortgages?
Floridaguysmyfirstcousin
Originally the deck was going to be much large and bought all the lumber before the price increase. Sold some to pay off the house.
Streptomyces
One step at a time
SlightlyOverripeBanana
Dude I don’t even know. Just got a quote for a fence: 170 ft for $6500. Too rich for my blood.
p3culiar15
Sacrifice dude. Op stop eating avocado toast
Must be my great credit score ?
HandoB4Javert
Waiting for the avocados to grow.
witchykitchen
Carefully
LucianKane
Just had a quote for a deck replacement... $63,800.
Holy shit how big is the deck? I quoted a 14x35 composite + Trex transcend deck for $26500. They might wait until lumber prices dip
That's literally 2/3 what I paid for my house.
Phlindar
How long ago though?
Ozzy98
That's the range for many rural ohio homes like in my area.
ButterfaceTaintClown
he's a lumber salesman
jatene
I don't get it.
thealmightywalrus420
Wood is expensive
The cost of lumber in the U.S. has sky-rocketed post-COVID. It's an exaggeration, but not by much.
Quizz25S
It's at around a 300% price increase ATM.
RuthlessRuben
And with the usual joke time-lag, we'll be getting these until...eh...bout 2031, I'd say.
Yes
DrKriegersClone
Bold of you to assume the prices will be coming back down. The industry has got people used to lumber being expensive now - why ruin a 1/
2/ good thing by competing with each other?
RawrLouder
I paid $15 for a 4x4x48 post for my new mailbox last weekend.
Someoneisinmyhead
Wasnt it like 15 bucks for an 8 foot treated before these times?
bohemiancrabcity
$7-8 for treated 4x4x8 at my local lumber yard February 2020. I made a sand box for my kid because I saw the lockdowns coming.
lovethecapybara
As some one who knows nothing about the lumber market... that doesn't seem horrible. What would you have paid for that 2 years ago?
Less than half that.
itsokayimsacaredtoo
A 4x8 ft sheet of OSB plywood would have cost around 12$ a year or so ago now it is about 51$.
aFadingMemory
A sheet of plywood is $80 right now
ZiggyStardust80085
How much did it cost before?
$20-25
Oooohhh woooowww!!!
phonoodle415
DAMNNNNNN
Morbifier
I work in a plywood plant and to me that sounds lowballed. But we make trailer floors and specialized plywood mostly though.
Probably varies by region too. I live in a timber state. Never thought about custom plywood being a thing. That's pretty cool.
I work at a Menards yard, a sheet of 1/2" is about $50, a sheet of 3/4 t&g is almost $70
Correction: that's OSB prices, plywood is way worse
goouch
my kind of porn
bigkingdingaling
The only way to build a deck so that the railings meet normal building code is to put them like you did. Nice work.
thatbuilderdude
Thank you!
IncrediRis
id walk down those so hard
IncrediRis
or up - whatever’s your pleasure
thatbuilderdude
Both please!
myballshurt
Sexy as hell my friend, killin it
thatbuilderdude
Thank you much!
isetprettygirlsonfire
Solid post(s)
mbungle87
When the lumber used for the deck is worth more than the house.
HotCarle
Inspector here. Are you driving a car on this? Save some lumber for the rest of us!
thatbuilderdude
Lmao, sorry Carle I can’t help myself. First time working this township and I want to start on a good foot with the township!
IDontGiveAMousesDonkey
You shouldn't be flaunting your wealth so much
ControversialLeftistLesbian
Don't forget to add the floor.
Marine0311
That's ridiculously over engineered and complicated. Building steps like that costs more than needed, wastes materials, and time.
thatbuilderdude
I disagree completely. An extra half day and $175 in materials is a no brainer, if you want a wobbly, squeaky, messy deck, then go for it!
Marine0311
Disagree all you want, I used to build decks too, you dont need that much blocking, and the post design for the railing is overly complex.
HomeDepotAisle15
Nice Deck Pics!
ijustwantacoolusernamethatisavailabletoo
You know the rules! Completed project first picture then the "steps" @op
TheMinty
Structural technician here: those steps are super overkill. driving a 4 wheeler up them steps?
TheMinty
Looks good though
RichardPicture
I subscribe to the "what if I own a tank and want to park it in the living room?" methodology. This overdoneness resonates with me.
laacis2
The trouble is when all those little pieces start coroding around screwholes. Things start falling off over time!
thatbuilderdude
They are exterior coated, they won’t corrode for a very long time
Bonchoman
lightray
That's bloody overkill, that's what it is!
thatbuilderdude
Nahh
lightray
Well, ok.
Jamroast
Not sure if 5 stringers is enough,,,, o_0
thatbuilderdude
It’s actually the minimum requirement for the deck boards I used ??
w1q1
Watch out for "attractive nuisance" (check local laws). That yellow tape probably wouldn't hold up in court. Get treads and rails up ASAP.
thatbuilderdude
That’s smart. Homeowners are very aware to be nowhere near it, but I didn’t think of people doing things on purpose. Thanks!
whydoIgetsomanypics
Hey, nice deck.
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
Wanna come fix the deck my contractors just fucked up?
arrowfred
Must be some fat ass lard buckets gonna climb up that deck! Damn.
michaelhmbuild6
How to turn 3 days of work into 4 weeks. Milk it into overkill oblivion.
thatbuilderdude
The post framing+ stringer blocking took me 4 hours myself. I sleep at night very well knowing my work will not receive call backs
martineb72
It seems almost overbuilt. 5 joists and 2 blocks on every step.
thatbuilderdude
Decking calls for 9-10” centers minimum, and picture frame treads new the blocking for miters to rest on and attach to.
UneventfulLover
ESL, is this what you refer to as "big deck energy"?
mobileimgurlags
We need @AlphaStructural to approve this overkill
QuaneriousPlumm
That thing will never fall down or crack with all those beams.
Queenroo
Posts. Not beams
thatbuilderdude
I sure hope not!
MrKnowItAll1903
Eventually water always wins, but this deck will outlive its builder. After that, it's someone else's problem.
Bystandr
Its nice pressure treated wood, will last ~15 years like that, but paint or varnish it all around (underside too) and paint the bottom 2
Bystandr
inches of the posts with creosote (warning carcinogenic, also cover with paint) and it will last ~50+ years.
WizardCastingShade
That bottom step wood is not making contact with the concrete right?
thatbuilderdude
G tape applied on the bottom of stringers
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Strong enough for even your mom to walk up and fown
thrashingcows
Well then now I’m suffering from Deck envy...like I need something else to feel inferior about...Thanks OP! ?
Fleaofpain
You could always ask to sit on OP's big hard deck.
Volimar
Trim the bushes around your deck to make it look bigger.
chezbarnhouse1
You are a real size queen i guess. There's not ONE bush around that deck now and you want it trimmed to look bigger. Sheesh?
wutwutinthebuttt
I’m no carpenters.. I dabble.. but this seems overkill?
rainevasquez
Seriously
CptCronos
As someone who's delivered appliances on far worse built decks, I appreciate how sturdy this looks. If it's over 40 inches wide I love it.
Fleaofpain
Ahhhh. Another connoisseur of the curvy woman!
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
It is Correct for composite decking. Most manufacturers recommend stringers be 9-10 inch on center. Im a pro builder. I Do this everyday.
detour512
I too am a pro and enjoy hitting the wood with my hammers and adjoining the recycled wood to other wet green wood, jk sturdy AF looks nice.
laacis2
I guess that's a no for composite decking from me then.
303SnowWolf
Trust me, you don't want it. The manufacturer will promise you the world but it's still plastic and its still gonna turn to junk in 5 years
yanni
Am a Carpenter , not overkill, can confirm
thatbuilderdude
Thanks for the support ??
rowanmc
Obviously you don't live in the Midwest...people are...bigger...here.
imgursample
If you live in the US, it's not uncommon to have a 400lb friend or two. I do.
DisenfranchisedSovietBear
Maybe op will have 40 people on his deck
iseepointycenterofareola
The fit and finish looks great. I would have liked to have seen the 4x4s as actual posts, all the way down to the ground.
laacis2
That'd be cool but I think they would need to restructure it a bit for the handrail to work better.
thatbuilderdude
Do you think posts attached to slab with post/Crete hardware is safe to do?
thatbuilderdude
I had figured it would be totally firm but there is a tiny bit of bounce if I jump on it, I’m going to add center 4x4s so it’s totally solid
ravnsulter
Norwegian here. This is at least 3 times the building code here.
thatbuilderdude
Overkill to some I’m sure! 5 stringers needed for Azek decking, and I hate wobbly posts so I secured the hell out of them. Worth it to me ??
w1q1
Amature here. Posts and stringer count look good to me. Why the horizontal 2x8s between the two outer stringers? Won't treads secure this?
BREED09
Extra blocking never hurts
thatbuilderdude
It’s for the miters of the picture framed treads to land on and secure to. If you don’t have solid underneath they get wonky
w1q1
Picture framed treads... very nice! A thing of beauty is a joy for ever.
wutwutinthebuttt
The quality shows. And I’m the same way. I just couldn’t imagine it needed that much support
dragon1freak
Id do the same lol. My dad added a second story to our garage and used a metal I beam to support the floor. Inspector said it was overkill 1
dragon1freak
But dad didn't want the floor to bounce. Now i always go over the top when doing the supporting parts of my projects
thatbuilderdude
I love to hear this. I’d rather have the inspector say it’s too good than not good enough! Floor bounce does not scream “quality!” Haha
scr1bbl3
Totally worth it to support the outer most edge of the steps as well as inhibiting any “bounce”. I’m with you OP ?
thatbuilderdude
Thank you!
KismetCrew
Looks like a sweet ramp, and I can't wait to see you take the quad off that for an awesome jump!
Sucequoidonc
So you're a 'I wear two condoms' kind of guy...
CangodCreateAStoneItCannotLift
Those are rookie numbers.
iseepointycenterofareola
Jesus, what the hell you doing? You battling covidaidsbola with your units or what.
Sucequoidonc
Those are rookie rubbers
thatbuilderdude
Yep!
GreatWhiteNorthEh
Overkill is always better than underkill.... which is what happens to people who cheap out on their stairs.
rabbu2
Looks great
Bluekitten03
There's no kill like overkill!
MedicSailor
That, in its current state, looks wide enough and strong enough to drive an ATV up it
thatbuilderdude
Lol I’m sure it could take it!
MrAitch2U
Anything worth doing is worth over-doing. I concur. Looks awesome.
aharami
Not with current lumber prices
thatbuilderdude
Im not going to sacrifice quality because lumber is more expensive. My customers pay the inflated price and I deliver a lasting product!
Sucequoidonc
(Belgian here) So it is worldwide?!
SomeGuyWhoShapeshiftsSometimes
Seems to be global (in in the US and it's definitely here)
StaticXster70
How can you afford 3 mortgages?
Floridaguysmyfirstcousin
Originally the deck was going to be much large and bought all the lumber before the price increase. Sold some to pay off the house.
Streptomyces
One step at a time
SlightlyOverripeBanana
Dude I don’t even know. Just got a quote for a fence: 170 ft for $6500. Too rich for my blood.
p3culiar15
Sacrifice dude. Op stop eating avocado toast
Bonchoman
thatbuilderdude
Must be my great credit score ?
HandoB4Javert
Waiting for the avocados to grow.
witchykitchen
Carefully
LucianKane
Just had a quote for a deck replacement... $63,800.
thatbuilderdude
Holy shit how big is the deck? I quoted a 14x35 composite + Trex transcend deck for $26500. They might wait until lumber prices dip
LucianKane
That's literally 2/3 what I paid for my house.
Phlindar
How long ago though?
Ozzy98
That's the range for many rural ohio homes like in my area.
ButterfaceTaintClown
he's a lumber salesman
jatene
I don't get it.
thealmightywalrus420
Wood is expensive
StaticXster70
The cost of lumber in the U.S. has sky-rocketed post-COVID. It's an exaggeration, but not by much.
Quizz25S
It's at around a 300% price increase ATM.
RuthlessRuben
And with the usual joke time-lag, we'll be getting these until...eh...bout 2031, I'd say.
HandoB4Javert
Yes
DrKriegersClone
Bold of you to assume the prices will be coming back down. The industry has got people used to lumber being expensive now - why ruin a 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ good thing by competing with each other?
RawrLouder
I paid $15 for a 4x4x48 post for my new mailbox last weekend.
Someoneisinmyhead
Wasnt it like 15 bucks for an 8 foot treated before these times?
bohemiancrabcity
$7-8 for treated 4x4x8 at my local lumber yard February 2020. I made a sand box for my kid because I saw the lockdowns coming.
lovethecapybara
As some one who knows nothing about the lumber market... that doesn't seem horrible. What would you have paid for that 2 years ago?
bohemiancrabcity
Less than half that.
itsokayimsacaredtoo
A 4x8 ft sheet of OSB plywood would have cost around 12$ a year or so ago now it is about 51$.
aFadingMemory
A sheet of plywood is $80 right now
ZiggyStardust80085
How much did it cost before?
aFadingMemory
$20-25
ZiggyStardust80085
Oooohhh woooowww!!!
phonoodle415
DAMNNNNNN
Morbifier
I work in a plywood plant and to me that sounds lowballed. But we make trailer floors and specialized plywood mostly though.
aFadingMemory
Probably varies by region too. I live in a timber state. Never thought about custom plywood being a thing. That's pretty cool.
thealmightywalrus420
I work at a Menards yard, a sheet of 1/2" is about $50, a sheet of 3/4 t&g is almost $70
thealmightywalrus420
Correction: that's OSB prices, plywood is way worse