Sep 25, 2018 7:29 PM
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HouseOfEvil
Die? Nobody is on Mars yet.
abundantbadgers
Always starts with the Poles...
NomDeImguerre
Hey, that's actually pretty funny!
BenSnow97
source interview: https://youtu.be/gV6hP9wpMW8
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
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DiscoPhysicist
That's the stupidest thing I've ever hear of. And I'm an astrophysicist!
FrozenWatcher
To be fair the area within the blast radius would warm up extremely fast.
BraveNewbie
it's like samantha said, if at first you don't succeed... try a larger thermonuclear reaction
thedarkcanuck
Shadoweclipse13
That's how you get a War Of The Worlds scenario. Let's try the slow way...
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
The Max Power way!
cp2chewy
Isn’t that just the wrong way? YES BUT FASTER
flosser
Max Power! He's the man whose name you love to touch.
OmnibusLatinName
We could maybe redirect an asteroid or something. No need to go all radioactive hellscape, bud.
Narfwak
terraforming mars is pointless if you can't generate a magnetic field, also the soil is full of toxic salts... it's really not a good idea
DrKriegersClone
I don't think it has the gravity hold a terrestrial atmosphere even if it did have a stronger magnetic field, no?
Munchman347
TV is just a fad, heavier than air flight is impossible, we'll never go to space, it's cold and there's no air. Science always finds a way.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
KURWA
theslybanananana
80percentlegs
The yellow cake is a nice touch
OutrageousHemmorhoid
“Get in, we’re nuking Poland”
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
To be fair he did say Fast.
VultureTX
Fast like a blitzkrieg? OR fast like the last Polish Cavalry charge against german armor?
No I meant... fast like warming up a planet with nuclear bombs...
4vie
That would be an interesting set of DLC for Offworld Trading Company.
awesomecat42
A better option would be kinetic energy weapons or meteors because there would be no radioactive fallout.
Thefirstargonaut
Could we just export our CO2? Kill two birds with one stone.
railgap
It's not a bad idea.
SomeRandomDudeWhoUpvotesThingsHeLikes
I have a teacher who sounds a ton like Elon Musk -- he's from germany though, not south africa O.o
valarjk
Hes talking about bombing the Poles? Mein Gott Walther...
yourekillingindependentgeorge
He's not wrong. It'll take a million years for the atmosphere to be restripped and we'll figure out how to create a magnetosphere by then..
cyno01
And if not that we can just crash a couple comets into the planet or something.
somnif
Well, I mean, Venus doesn't have a magnetosphere, and its atmosphere is fairly robust.
MagiicHat
Maybe someone dropped thermonuclear devices on it's poles?
rdoyel
Pfft look at this guy with his positive aspirations for humanity. Unlike us cool realists who are amazed with humanity making it another day
valen00
job done broski https://phys.org/news/2017-03-nasa-magnetic-shield-mars-atmosphere.html
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Ze germans approve
DuchessGummiBunns
Your username is glorious
TheOtherTruth
Da Russians agree too
They can go halves, just like the good old days
Aligatorlog
Didn’t you see? The Russian government said it never happened! So it never did.
tedocem
Thirds, Austria wants some too.
camn333
Maybe at first, but who are they trying to fool? We all know they want more than just half of it.
Hes right though, itll sublimate all the CO2 into a bit of an atmosphere maybe enough to kick off a bit of a greenhouse effect for a while.
Flyndaran
Still unlikely even if you used literally ever nuke on Earth. He's not an expert in global warming or geology.
Keru
I mean, with enough kinetic energy, you don't really need thermonuclear weapons, just drop a big enough rock from orbit.
Crashing a comets into Mars poles WOULD totally work better, but weve barely landed a probe on one of those, nukes are current capability.
Sure, but the delta-v to transport a full payload of nukes to Mars orbit should be less than just capturing a NMO and drop that, right?
NMO = Near Mars Object, I couldn't fit it into the comment otherwise lol
err, more than just capturing an NMO and drop that. ffffffffff
I havent played nearly enough Kerbal Space Program to feel qualified to even speculate on those figures.
Neither have I, I'm just operating on high school physics I took 20 years ago :V
drenix
Send a bunch of black cockroaches so they reflect the sun and warm shit up, and some sort of algae for them to eat and give it some years
mitchrz
I like how everyone thinks this will take just few/some years.
previoustopcomment
I don't think you know how reflecting works.
you mean black objects typically don't reflect a lot of light back?
dragonitesXD
Next thing you know, we develop super humans with animal powers to fight mutant roaches in space. Crazy idea, right?
That's crazy why would we be fighting mutant roaches? Just send a crew to survey the experiment, with some weapons as precautions, at least
PickledLightning
I just want to thank you both for letting me know I wasn't alone in watching that show.
Is such a shame there was NEVER a second season or anything. NEVER ಠ_ಠ capicce?
imgonnahurtu
Which show?
A damn travesty if you ask me,
Freaking TF Revenge is like they tried to make cannon some abridged fanfiction by a guy who watched the opening once
myusernamehasneverbeenrelevant
If it works it's not stupid?
whatshappeninghere
It wont work tho, not enough CO2 available to get a decent atmosphere
saiboogu
I think OP is trying to make this a genocide joke (yay, so funny) rather than heckle the concept.
But... people... Mars?
Poles.
Oh, geeze. I actually feel better about myself for NOT catching that. lol
gaaaaalavant
A recent study showed the poles don't have enough water or CO2 to be worth melting, but this interview was a few years ago.
Now, if we could crash a few comets into Mars, maybe release some synthetic extra-strength greenhouse gasses, we might be in business.
NexiKuro
Not to mention that all the nukes on earth can barely raise the temperature of the ice sheet on Greenland by 1 degree.
GuardsmanMiku
somehow i doubt that
not gonna do the math again but 1 kilo calorie raises 1 kilogram of water degree 1C, we got 6.5k megaton of nukes, 1 megaton = 10^12Kcal 1/2
2/2 1 cubic kilometer = 10^12 liter, and the Greenland icesheet is roughly 2.85 million cubic kilometers, ice has a density of 0.92kg/l
3/2 you get the picture, the nuclear arsenal yield is several orders of magnitude away from raising temperature by 1C.
poopifruit
This has been debunked. I’m a big elon fan, and he’s usually right, but in this instance the scientific consensus is that wouldn’t work.
http://www.astronomy.com/news/magazine/2018/08/why-we-cant-just-nuke-mars
DirtRagFartStain
Curious: in 2018, what is there left to be excited about vis-a-vis Elon?
turns out hes just human and not some kind of god, who fucking new. I still cant figure out why he gets so much hate
So I'm guessing CommunistPenguin is more of a nonsense name than an indication of where you land on the political spectrum...
oh your right about that, ugh its such a pain i wish i could change it. I mean i'm left leaning but the name is an old joke
The reason I mention it that is that Musk's labor practices are pretty fucking awful. And that's pretty broad, and it's just one thing.
and yeh you're right to a degree, altho i'd argue few companies are great at that.
but the main thing that makes him different from most buisnessmen is his aim isn't profit, its achieving his dreams that many others share
Haha. “In 2018” ...you get excited about the Elon stuff that’s always been exciting. That he took 100% of PayPal profit and reinvested it 1/
2/ into 3 companies that are changing the world. 2 of which singlehandedly revolutionized entire multimillion industries. same as always. 3/
multibillion**
3/what hes achieved/set in motion in the time & scale done in, is still superlative. 4/
your comment’s like asking post 1905: “Curious: in 1910, what Einstein stuff is there really to be excited about?”
HouseOfEvil
Die? Nobody is on Mars yet.
abundantbadgers
Always starts with the Poles...
NomDeImguerre
Hey, that's actually pretty funny!
BenSnow97
source interview: https://youtu.be/gV6hP9wpMW8
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
DiscoPhysicist
That's the stupidest thing I've ever hear of. And I'm an astrophysicist!
FrozenWatcher
To be fair the area within the blast radius would warm up extremely fast.
BraveNewbie
it's like samantha said, if at first you don't succeed... try a larger thermonuclear reaction
thedarkcanuck
Shadoweclipse13
That's how you get a War Of The Worlds scenario. Let's try the slow way...
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
The Max Power way!
cp2chewy
Isn’t that just the wrong way? YES BUT FASTER
flosser
Max Power! He's the man whose name you love to touch.
OmnibusLatinName
We could maybe redirect an asteroid or something. No need to go all radioactive hellscape, bud.
Narfwak
terraforming mars is pointless if you can't generate a magnetic field, also the soil is full of toxic salts... it's really not a good idea
DrKriegersClone
I don't think it has the gravity hold a terrestrial atmosphere even if it did have a stronger magnetic field, no?
Munchman347
TV is just a fad, heavier than air flight is impossible, we'll never go to space, it's cold and there's no air. Science always finds a way.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
KURWA
theslybanananana
80percentlegs
The yellow cake is a nice touch
OutrageousHemmorhoid
“Get in, we’re nuking Poland”
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
To be fair he did say Fast.
VultureTX
Fast like a blitzkrieg? OR fast like the last Polish Cavalry charge against german armor?
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
No I meant... fast like warming up a planet with nuclear bombs...
4vie
That would be an interesting set of DLC for Offworld Trading Company.
awesomecat42
A better option would be kinetic energy weapons or meteors because there would be no radioactive fallout.
Thefirstargonaut
Could we just export our CO2? Kill two birds with one stone.
HouseOfEvil
Die? Nobody is on Mars yet.
railgap
It's not a bad idea.
SomeRandomDudeWhoUpvotesThingsHeLikes
I have a teacher who sounds a ton like Elon Musk -- he's from germany though, not south africa O.o
valarjk
Hes talking about bombing the Poles? Mein Gott Walther...
yourekillingindependentgeorge
He's not wrong. It'll take a million years for the atmosphere to be restripped and we'll figure out how to create a magnetosphere by then..
cyno01
And if not that we can just crash a couple comets into the planet or something.
somnif
Well, I mean, Venus doesn't have a magnetosphere, and its atmosphere is fairly robust.
MagiicHat
Maybe someone dropped thermonuclear devices on it's poles?
rdoyel
Pfft look at this guy with his positive aspirations for humanity. Unlike us cool realists who are amazed with humanity making it another day
valen00
job done broski https://phys.org/news/2017-03-nasa-magnetic-shield-mars-atmosphere.html
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Ze germans approve
DuchessGummiBunns
Your username is glorious
TheOtherTruth
Da Russians agree too
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
They can go halves, just like the good old days
Aligatorlog
Didn’t you see? The Russian government said it never happened! So it never did.
tedocem
Thirds, Austria wants some too.
camn333
Maybe at first, but who are they trying to fool? We all know they want more than just half of it.
cyno01
Hes right though, itll sublimate all the CO2 into a bit of an atmosphere maybe enough to kick off a bit of a greenhouse effect for a while.
Flyndaran
Still unlikely even if you used literally ever nuke on Earth. He's not an expert in global warming or geology.
Keru
I mean, with enough kinetic energy, you don't really need thermonuclear weapons, just drop a big enough rock from orbit.
cyno01
Crashing a comets into Mars poles WOULD totally work better, but weve barely landed a probe on one of those, nukes are current capability.
Keru
Sure, but the delta-v to transport a full payload of nukes to Mars orbit should be less than just capturing a NMO and drop that, right?
Keru
NMO = Near Mars Object, I couldn't fit it into the comment otherwise lol
Keru
err, more than just capturing an NMO and drop that. ffffffffff
cyno01
I havent played nearly enough Kerbal Space Program to feel qualified to even speculate on those figures.
Keru
Neither have I, I'm just operating on high school physics I took 20 years ago :V
drenix
Send a bunch of black cockroaches so they reflect the sun and warm shit up, and some sort of algae for them to eat and give it some years
mitchrz
I like how everyone thinks this will take just few/some years.
previoustopcomment
I don't think you know how reflecting works.
mitchrz
you mean black objects typically don't reflect a lot of light back?
dragonitesXD
Next thing you know, we develop super humans with animal powers to fight mutant roaches in space. Crazy idea, right?
drenix
That's crazy why would we be fighting mutant roaches? Just send a crew to survey the experiment, with some weapons as precautions, at least
PickledLightning
I just want to thank you both for letting me know I wasn't alone in watching that show.
drenix
Is such a shame there was NEVER a second season or anything. NEVER ಠ_ಠ capicce?
imgonnahurtu
Which show?
PickledLightning
A damn travesty if you ask me,
drenix
Freaking TF Revenge is like they tried to make cannon some abridged fanfiction by a guy who watched the opening once
myusernamehasneverbeenrelevant
If it works it's not stupid?
whatshappeninghere
It wont work tho, not enough CO2 available to get a decent atmosphere
saiboogu
I think OP is trying to make this a genocide joke (yay, so funny) rather than heckle the concept.
myusernamehasneverbeenrelevant
But... people... Mars?
saiboogu
Poles.
myusernamehasneverbeenrelevant
Oh, geeze. I actually feel better about myself for NOT catching that. lol
gaaaaalavant
A recent study showed the poles don't have enough water or CO2 to be worth melting, but this interview was a few years ago.
gaaaaalavant
Now, if we could crash a few comets into Mars, maybe release some synthetic extra-strength greenhouse gasses, we might be in business.
NexiKuro
Not to mention that all the nukes on earth can barely raise the temperature of the ice sheet on Greenland by 1 degree.
GuardsmanMiku
somehow i doubt that
NexiKuro
not gonna do the math again but 1 kilo calorie raises 1 kilogram of water degree 1C, we got 6.5k megaton of nukes, 1 megaton = 10^12Kcal 1/2
NexiKuro
2/2 1 cubic kilometer = 10^12 liter, and the Greenland icesheet is roughly 2.85 million cubic kilometers, ice has a density of 0.92kg/l
NexiKuro
3/2 you get the picture, the nuclear arsenal yield is several orders of magnitude away from raising temperature by 1C.
poopifruit
This has been debunked. I’m a big elon fan, and he’s usually right, but in this instance the scientific consensus is that wouldn’t work.
poopifruit
http://www.astronomy.com/news/magazine/2018/08/why-we-cant-just-nuke-mars
DirtRagFartStain
Curious: in 2018, what is there left to be excited about vis-a-vis Elon?
GuardsmanMiku
turns out hes just human and not some kind of god, who fucking new. I still cant figure out why he gets so much hate
DirtRagFartStain
So I'm guessing CommunistPenguin is more of a nonsense name than an indication of where you land on the political spectrum...
GuardsmanMiku
oh your right about that, ugh its such a pain i wish i could change it. I mean i'm left leaning but the name is an old joke
DirtRagFartStain
The reason I mention it that is that Musk's labor practices are pretty fucking awful. And that's pretty broad, and it's just one thing.
GuardsmanMiku
and yeh you're right to a degree, altho i'd argue few companies are great at that.
GuardsmanMiku
but the main thing that makes him different from most buisnessmen is his aim isn't profit, its achieving his dreams that many others share
poopifruit
Haha. “In 2018” ...you get excited about the Elon stuff that’s always been exciting. That he took 100% of PayPal profit and reinvested it 1/
poopifruit
2/ into 3 companies that are changing the world. 2 of which singlehandedly revolutionized entire multimillion industries. same as always. 3/
poopifruit
multibillion**
poopifruit
3/what hes achieved/set in motion in the time & scale done in, is still superlative. 4/
poopifruit
your comment’s like asking post 1905: “Curious: in 1910, what Einstein stuff is there really to be excited about?”