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FirstThingThatCameToMind
Pretty sure that was taken out of context
daxxcat
He's literally the bad guy from Quantum of Solace.
7grims
This guy might be one of the worse human samples I ever saw, nothing is more jawbreaking then listening to his ideas and visions.
ICantFigureOutGoodUsernameSoLetsSayIHadGreatIdeaButItWasTaken
That could be troubling in the future.
PsychRealms
Boycott Nestles products, hit em where it hurts,...their bottom line!!!
Panzieman
Tank girl anyone?
321Cheers
Clean water is a more important issue than vaccines. With the spread of disease, not having access to clean water kills more people yearly.
BuddahsBrother
Didn't they supply formula to African mother's to get babies "addicted" and then try to extort money somehow?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Yep!
FranFromTheNanny
I say go for it. I already pay to breathe. ????#asthma
seniormitty
This is taken out of context. It's not as nefarious and this meme makes it.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
while it was out of context, it was also disingenuous. He says people aren't properly valuing water, but he himself is trying as hard as
possible to profit off that fact. The context for the quote makes him look like a humanitarian, when he makes the lives of people harder.
leodavinci1
I'd have to see the context to say it's out of context. That's a pretty much an absolutist comment.
sheppo
this is a out-of-context quote from 2005, that current events tag needs to die.
Out-of-context? How so? How's this for current events... Nestle is now building a large plant in Arizona (which is in a drought, btw) 1 of 2
and (just coincidently) at the same time two rural AZ communities are suddenly getting their main water source shut off. 2 of 2
zzyxx
welcome to 2013
Wellshiet
So how about Obama going for the second term huh? Can't wait to see what comes next
2005*
thebluestthingsonearth
Pro tip: if you're buying bottled water, you're not paying for the water.
boobcat
no shit
Newthoenikker
So what's the problem? If you have access to water, filter it. If you don't, you'll have to pay to import it. Solution: don't live where 1/2
You don't have access to water.
mr20sak
You also pay to get rid of that water you drink every time you flush
AmazedAndConfused
This is blatantly taken out of context, and the argument false on its face, and was debunked. Stop trolling with 4 year old BS.
How is this any better in context? And given the actions of the nestle corporation on numerous fronts this isn't even remotely the worst
thing they've said/done.
First, it wasn't the Nestle Corporation that said it, it was their former chairman. Second, do a little research and stop believing 1/2
everything you read on imgur as fact. A google search gets you this, in Peter Brabeck's words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dMA0_cLdeE
Ah, so not the actual quote in context, some pretty words after the fact to make it seem less bad. Dismissed, please try again.
Like I said, they've done more than enough bad shit for me to not give them the benefit of the doubt.
darksamus8
Old, taken out of context, debunked.
Ever heard of the nestle milk formula scandal?
Groznek
You can say that, but nestle still has incredibly predatory practices towards water
Kdonn
Guys need to fact check before you bash. If you read up on it, apparently somebody took his interview out of context.
He actually thinks it IS a human right and wants everyone to have access to clean water.
http://www.nestle.com/ask-nestle/human-rights/answers/nestle-chairman-peter-brabeck-letmathe-believes-water-is-a-human-right
IAmThePrincess
I mean, water DOES require someone to find it, filter it, and bring it to you.
Mercenarity
something something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Jq3pJejPM
(also this quote requires context)
LurkinNSmirkin
Go to a lake or river and have all the water you want. Don't expect a company to purify and pump it to your house for free.
illTemperedMutatedSeaBass
Sauce?
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
I heard rumors that Nestlé polluted local water supplies in remote areas in South America, so they could sell bottled water. Dunno if true.
Tanwolf
I would lean toward not true. Remote areas are likely too poor to afford the bottled water. Pollution as a side effect would be more likely.
thegreatheed
Out of context and debunked. https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/nestle-peter-brabeck-attitude-water-change-stewardship
honkaholic
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-privatisation-of-water-nestle-denies-that-water-is-a-fundamental-human-right/5332238
kingdav9
Everyone should have the right to access water in natural ways i.e rivers, lakes, rain, etc. However I don't think anyone has a right to 1/
1/ have it brought to you for free. Municipal water or otherwise. That being said fuck this guy and the Nestlé corporation
zma123456
That's not what he said. He was saying if we put a price on water only than the world will realize how important water really is.
justpointingouttheobvious
Jesus. You are what we call the "average American consumer". This is a man who wants to take away your RIGHT to water and tell you it's 1/2
for your good and you are just going to take his word for it? Even in the face of some pretty staggering evidence to the contrary? Wow..
Carefuler
Truth. For many what has no cost, has no worth. Sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPY64EJcsG4
YoureyouandImnot
Are you saying we were mislead? Lied to? Never!
The memes NEVER lie.
obsequiouslifechoices
You are the soul of Imgur.
CyoCyo
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3150150
^ this. Read it, and repost it when this is reposted next week
chefsoda
It's dangerous to inject context into a witch hunt.
shut up! u really dont know this monster, he just wants to privatize anything that makes him money, no higher intentions or good will.
LarvaLamp
So your saying he's neutral?
I compared that person to a monster. For the twilight generation this might make it confusing, but he is definitely not a young vampire.
Oh, so you mean he's just doing exactly what society programs people to do? Capitalism means money is more important than anything
Mooseheart
Also, by coincidence, putting a price on it lets him make billions of dollars of desperate poor people. So win-win for everyone i guess.
Here hes calling water as a human right an extremist position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=240&v=7iGj4GpAbTM
eroso
But what he did: They drained out wells of poor Africans, filtered it with super expensive system and forced them to buy it. Fuck that guy.
Locals now had to pay over 50% of their tiny income to Nestle for their water, when it used to be free. Filter was = boiling it.
Even again in 2015 he said the world isn't managing the water crisis properly, and no one really seems to give a shit about water.
he's not wrong, but he's actively working to take advantage of that. He's trying to make it worse for the world for his profit, he isn't
taking steps to rectify the situation he identified.
FlorbFnarb
There is no world water crisis; there are local water crises.
Of course he has to have a reason for privatizing water other than "So Nestle can get like suuuuper rich". It's called corporate propaganda.
SHUT UP. and actually look for his true intentions and words. He is a cooperate monster, possibly adapted his speech to convince ppl.
stormegedendarklordofall
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citation needed
Zetor
Stop bying Kit-kat and other Nestlé shit!
Treblaine
In the US, KitKat is made by hershey. Same name, same product. Different company making it and profiting off it.
Astarion
Listen, Nestlé may be an evil mega-corporation, but they make some damn good cookies.
Bugsyjr9000
But Canadian Smarties are so good!
But they taste soooo Good!
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
They're almost impossible to avoid.
I like their products.
spudpicker
And I like Darth Vader's voice, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pay to listen to his podcast.
As stated in many comments from this post, calling their ethics questionable is an understatement...
735824
Then you're unwilling to look at the big picture.
zippydee
Really? Nestle chocolate isn't even that nice
nevoreJunkie
None of the commercial chocolate is nice anymore
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
Buy similar products they dont make
Nah
NotOnTheRugMan
No.
bondagewithjesus
Dude thats like most of the shit at my grocery store nestle is a fucking huge company it's hard not to buy
trying to buy their competitors when able is a great step, and what is more feasible to do
That would be hard.
DragonBapt
Only thing on there by Nestlé I get is Aero, and even then it's rare I buy those in the first place.
TheBritfag
Hah. Literally the only thing I own that is related to Nestle is a few Ralph Lauren polo shirts.
IchWillSchlafen
how the hell is that hard, its just some sweets and some designer clothing.
wizardblizzard
Well, the only products I use by nestle are coffee mate and KitKats. So I guess by sweet coffee
SneakEFoxxe
I know this is gonna put me on a list, but maybe violence is the answer?
ItCanOnlyBeANipple
I'll take 'what's an 8 letter word for physical aggression' for $200
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -some guy they shot in the head.
Killersmail
v
FindusSomKatten
jfk if someone wondered
DanOrtega
In all seriousness, is all shitty junk food what they produce. quite easy to avoid.
mksu
Good luck boycotting every business that thinks that way.
Radix865
Good luck boycotting Nestle alone, they push out a fuckload of things.
Bad PR on social media works wonders too. Call them out on their FB-page, use their # and give exposure to their wrongdoings.
Foopfoop
Woah. Let's not be unreasonable here. Let's think before we act
Right?! I mean Kit Kats are fucking delicious.
Kregular365
No!
I've read plenty about Nestle. I know how this quote is out of context, but I know they are still cruel with their aggressive businesses.
You probably don't understand just how many products Nestle makes.
Kusko25
They produce Maggi! Not sure how it is out there but here in Germany that's a big thing. I am miffed
bradleylibralesso11
And I don't buy a single one
that doesn't mean you can't try. Something as simple as trying to remember nestle brands and buying competitors when able is great.
angelghoul
I looked up their products, they own like everything.
samuelphipps131337
They're basically Abstergo
DotNull
They're not the only one.
It's mostly candy, sugary cereal, bottled water and instant coffee. Turns out I was boycotting them already just by not eating that shit.
EvenStevensEvenSemen
Free trade coffee and a britta and BAM nestle is out of my life
Britta water filter?
Yea, my tap water is nasty
rshini
necessary, my tap water has chlorine in it.
DieHardIsAChristmasMovie
Nestle is the epitome of an evil fucking corporation. Got women hooked on their formula in Africa so they would stop lactating
starrychloe
https://youtu.be/U_80bWlLJvg
porcupinebuttsniffer
I'm watching a film right now called The Constant Gardener which tells a similar story. It won Rachel Weisz an Oscar. Highly recommended.
WithPride
In British Colombia (Canada), pays only $2.25 for every 1,000,000 liters. WHAT THE FUCK!?
PickledDundersnoot
Metric fucktons of super clean water in the reservoirs and aquifers just waiting to grow up and be real profit centers one day.
Banditsalmon
rkogta
Source*
http://www.businessinsider.com/nestles-infant-formula-scandal-2012-6/#r-on-want-said-this-undermined-womens-confidence-in-breastfeeding-6
VodkaReindeer
Jesus Christ that layout hurts my brain (ads are blocked).
mineovermatter
Thanks for the link. BI is some of the most convoluted reporting out there though.Still, it's a start
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Can't read it without turning off adblock. fuck that site.
Tl;dr version they lie so women believe formula is best, babies died due to the unclean water and malnutrition
Seggs
or open in incognito
OhWellIDontLiekTurtles
Stop useing a shitty adblock and use uBlock Origin. Works fine for me.
elitereloaded
Confirmed. I use uBlock and have no issues viewing that site.
SuperJere
I have uBlock Origin and that site still says it must be turned off in order to view the page.
TheStateOfDenial
It costs them money to build and host the site. They don't owe you shit for free.
Corrodias
Indeed they don't. If they don't care for traffic, they *could* just turn off the server, but either way, I'm not playing that game.
RaynWisp
You can acknowledge a site's rights and still say "Fuck them" for what they choose to do.
daguq
I fucking love Kit-Kats but haven't bought one for many years.
DysgraphicProgrammer
And good luck boycotting them, they own half the brands in your grocery store.
Rengii
Yeah unless you live on a farm and grow all your food it can be difficult to avoid buying something unconnected to Nestle.
CGMR
Yep. You're best bet is to hit up specialty food stores like Whole Foods (expensive, I know)... a lot of the brands are local/ethical.
Yes, but at Whole Foods, I am implicitly buying into the anti-scientific non-GMO fearmongering.
ratfinkfuck
I've tried for years since I learned about them using slave workers. It's a fucking minefield honestly
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
All the water we had when I was deployed in Iraq was provided by them. This does not surprise me.
TheS4ndm4n
They probably charges the government (taxpayers) $15 a gallon or more.
Ryanator50
wait.... nestle icecream is made from human milk?
GnomeDeGuerre
Is theft ok if only Nestle gets losses?
Nestle pays $3.71 for every 1,000,000 liters and then turns around and sells it to you for $1.50 for 1/2 liter. ($3.00 per liter) in Ontario
They just outsmarted them. It was completely voluntary. Like you getting hooked on Facebook instead of looking for a job.
TheScummiestFuckingFlowerBoy
Most recent post is a R&M meme, probably identifies with Rick. Please, tell us about your IQ.
proutonium
This is the most downvoted post I have seen!
Preying upon the vulnerable does fit most folks' idea of what "evil" is.
You shouldn't shame people who don't want to breast-feed https://youtu.be/U_80bWlLJvg
Indeed. I wouldn't, haven't, and would like others not to. That has nothing to do with the topic, but I don't disagree.
Right because all African women are vulnerable and incapable of rational thought. Sure. So racist...
Nice trolling.
Ok, sweetheart, here in reality theres this thing called "education". You might be quite intelligent but not have access to it.
https://youtu.be/U_80bWlLJvg Yes educate yourself
KarakLohr
By your logic it’d be completely fine for me to “outsmart” you by giving you rat poison instead of sugar for your coffee. C’mon now...
MrParker64
No, his logic would be that the people were not smart enough to realize breast milk is essentially free, clean, and better for their kids.
They chose to buy something that wasn't needed, then chose to use it incorrectly by using dirty water as using less per serving.
BannedAssholes
I've seen this comment a hundred times and it only gets funnier.
ispoopabadwordcuzimnotallowedtocuss
Pics or it didn’t happen. :)
Right, because rat poison is the same as life nourishing formula. So irrational...
Nourishing formula that they had little money to spend on and no clean water to prepare with, and no milk because they had been giving it
out long enough to for the women to stop lactating? Please, go suck some corporate dick elsewhere, it will give your mouth something more
jrbickers
devils advocate: this is part of a quote taken out of context. he was referring to how people can fill their swim pools, water their lawns..
with the same water that is used for life giving necessities. that there aught to be some kind of control over that.
and california is recent proof of this. illegal well drilling, overuse, stealing, lots of crimes went on with the water during draught.
but of course. this is a ceo of a company that takes local resources, bottles it, and sells it abroad. so of course he is worse than the...
topic he got us bickering over.
abitskeptical
Aught and draught? Jeez louise!
Ireadhentaifortheart
We still pay for water, I hope you all know
MrSwaggerMcJaeger
Do we? Were i live i get water and elecrtricity payed in my rent
Poor Africans didn't pay for their water bc they couldn't afford it. Nestle drained all the local well-water and forced them to buy it.
Well obviously I disagree with that. I just think privatizing water, is a more complex issue. Tap water, is a product. Not saying I agree
Sure every case is individual one. What Nestle does in Africa is evil. They stole the water from their wells and profited from their misery.
Which is absolutely reprehensible. I just wanted to clarify on that one point, I still hate that guy for what Nestle has done to people
wheresthebaby
Sorry, It was at least a year ago when I read about this case. No sources in memory.
No worries. How were they allowed to deplete the water well water legally?
Because its a piss poor african country and they are rich enough to afford good lawyers? Legality is whatever the rich cunts say it is mate.
Most likely the local government didnt have geo-experts to tell what the deal ment. Who would had known they would deplete the ground waters
I say it is a product brcause it is not just water. Treatment plants take groundwater and add chlorine, fluoride, etc. And depending where
You live you get taxed by the local gov or you pay the water company yourself as far as I know. I used to work at a plant.
Jk you werent talking to me haha
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
You don't pay for IT. You pay for the maintenance of the plumbing and purification of it. Nobody demaps payment when you go to river, "yet"
Haha okay sorry. I hoped "Tap water is a product" would be clearer. And yeah, we might. But insinuating he meant all water is not correct
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
If you think him saying that is bad, go read about the African milk powder scandal. That'll really rustle your jimmies.
AlasYeScurvyDog
Jewz.......
Ssexxyblue
Rustle my jimmies, this has now replaced grind my gears
Endro22
If I ever start a band.. I'm using that name...so elegant..."The African Milk Powder Scandal"
bravotipo
my mother had us boycott them ever since. I grew up nestlè free (there were many alternatives to nesquik and much better in taste).
maximuminnovationstevejobs
Thank you for bringing people's attention to this.
Noroelle
But what are a few dead baby's against profit ?
Jazzgirl205
That was when the Catholic Church told people to boycott Nestle.
How about the time Nestle sold formula in the UK that made babies reject mom's milk?
tooomanysteves
Yep. I boycotted Nestle after that.
EdmondAlmond
Did it work?
gnargnar99
Yep
Boycotting Nestle is _really_ difficult, they own so many brands that don't carry the Nestle name. I do avoid if possible, though.
PolkaPisteFi
C'mon, you just need to go through the list of their brands, find the ones you use and then choose a product from some other brand next time
Well that is true. You can look up what brands they own online, however.
PlatypusPlatypus
Consider them rustled!
My mum wouldn't let us have nestle for our whole childhoods because of this. Same with Coca-Cola.
PigleythePig
What has coke done?
They also used paramilitaries to force people in developing countries to work for them at shit wages
They pollute water sources and cause water shortages to make the product. Think there was some suggestion of them doing it on purpose
So that people bought more of their drink but don't know if that was ever proved. Hippies Mums huh...
:O guess I need to boycott them too!
In my country? They have taken over water mantles and placed bottling factories on top. WHICH IS CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGAL.
What country?
Mexico. If you are in the US and wonder why Mexican CocaCola tastes better, is because of that.
Barbarian90001
For profit companies increased access & lowered cost to safe drinking water in Africa https://www.moxon.net/ghana/drink_in_a_bag.html
Everyday I realize imgurians have almost no life or world experience and justify their lives with virtue signalling.
Virtue signaling, is that the latest buzz phrase for "not being a complete shit-heel"?
LoudBirb
I have absolutely no idea how you interpreted people stating facts about some really shitty things one specific company did into an...
... implication that all corporations are evil. Ironically, I think in this case, the one that was virtue signaling was... you.
chickeninthebushbush
Treybetrey
RogenaValorina
Google it you spoon fed imbecile.
That's the problem, I found so much bad-written rubbish that I ask my fellow Imgurians to help me find a reliable source
B4dger
I laughed, have an upvote.
@OP Sure, think everyone should have lots of stuff, everyone should have a right to a house, food, security. Who's going to provide it?
misfit119
Found the Ayn Rand.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
So if you lost everything, say to a flood, you'd be ok with the relief worker telling you "water is $10, it's a privilege, not a right"?
paracameraca5772
Dude people are being born in a planet with the same rights as you. The fact that some people have capitalised all sources of this planet do
Does not qualify them as sub people. Where you are born is pure luck
If we dont punish people for being born poor, they wont try harder to be born rich, duh.
There is a huge difference between subsidising those in poverty and a company intentionally endangering people's lives for profit.
Travel more, virtue signalling is low effort, learning about the world is harder https://www.moxon.net/ghana/drink_in_a_bag.html
Not sure the point you are making. Whether I have travelled or not (and for the record I have) is irrelevant for this issue.
How is he endangering peoples life? Access to safe drinking water has been a problem in developing countries, it was private companies ...
You were replying to a comment about powder milk scandal, where they literally endangered peoples lifes...
That increased access and lowered cost, before everything that government and aide agencies did failed.
Notme68
You realize the US government provided some of the the cleanest tap water on the planet- then private companies convinced 1
If you have to ask how Nestle endangered people's lives then you simply don't know what went on. Go do some reading.
jukkz
TL;DR: Nestlé campaigned against breastfeeding in poverty areas to sell formula. Millions of babies died of malnutrition.
In the US around that time, the rich used formula because breastfeeding was what poor women do since they couldn't afford formula.
FingerInYourDickHole
:(
beefcheeks17
why i oughta rustle his jimmies right up his crack & hang him off a lampost
SandyTentaclez
...wait... am i understanding you correctly?! Against literally breastfeeding your child?
Yuven1
How is he still alive?
kojenk
In certain improvished eastern countries they paid doctors to convince mothers the milk supplements were better than breastmilk.
Lead to a lot of dead babies.
worldsokayestspeler
Yup. Jimmies rustled.
AnykindofTacos
GrouchyMarx
Is this the famous capitalism with a human face I've been hearing a lot about?
Human face costs extra.
EID0LON
cookiesandmilf
BlainesMagmar
What cunts
JingleheimerScimdt
Wow. Fuck nestle
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Well, guess I need a new brand of hot cocoa because it doesn't seem right buying from asshats like that. Any recommendations?
sergeanttbag
they make everything not just hot coco
aperfectlycromulentusername
I personally like Ghirardelli brand
MetaSomma
How did they convince people not to do it?
Rip42
Who is they, what is it? Nestle trying to raise formula usage, or the public getting people to breastfeed again? Nestle-lying, public-lernin
larrykinney
Nestle would give new mothers in the developing world free powdered milk until they stopped lactating, then make them pay for it.
Nykidemus
that is fucking awful.
MasterPrime
marketing. People constantly fall for advertising. That's why tinder is full of bots. It works.
But these aren't your average first-world consumers, we're talking people who are only a generation removed from slavery
It doesn't matter. We've had snake-oil salesman and grifters since time began. Advertising is a con game.
SilvrDragon52
I think it may be time to never buy Nestle again
Lmao let us know how that works out. Don't forget to Google their corporate holdings so you can avoid them all!
ArkoneAxon
It's worked okay for me so far. I may have bought a few of their products, but just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't TRY.
Cyrillus
Good luck with that. They own about 50 percent of the foodstock in any given grocery store.
I avoid as many of their brands as I can. Just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't TRY.
I haven't bought anything from them in seven years. It's not that hard!
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
Why/how... can someone make a mother not breastfeed their baby?
Extremely misleading marketing in areas with poor education. Also giving enough for free that moms stopped lactating.
joevair
Basically get them addicted to formula.....
bluemofia
Most easily by convincing them that formula is better than breastmilk for kids. Not that hard when the victims aren't well educated. They1/3
also gave them free samples of formula to try out, just long enough so that the body stops producing breastmilk from lack of use so that 2/3
they have no choice but to use formula after it becomes pay to use. 3/3
domenick91
Fuck everything, bad shit keeps happening,where's that network I voted for for the 2016 election?
Enigmastick
Do these ridiculously rich people even have empathy?
DangerTrain
Most of them are no longer about money, it's all about power and having the big number. They are far beyond what they could ever need.
Only for others in their income bracket, otherwise it's just "how can we bleed more blood from the poor?"
SaintLuciferVonAllah
hammersquirrel
http://www.businessinsider.com/ceos-often-have-psychopathic-traits-2017-7
EdgerAlanJoe
Bill gates seems to be aiight sometimes
It took his wife to wake him up, though. He's really fired up now.
Let's ask Trump and Mnuchin!
Katalliaan
Empathy doesn't get your company more money.
RosieGarden
Meanwhile in India any and all breast milk substitutes are required by law to state that mother's milk is best.
That's nice. Too bad every other part of that country is shit. Figuratively and literally.
sp1cychick3n
Bit of an over exaggeration. There are some serious issues with it but not everything.
It's very slowly getting under control, but it'll take a looong time.
bedsound
+1 for cautious optimism. I have very mixed feelings about Modi.
KleptoKea
Then stop buying their f*cking products it's not that hard. many of us started that years ago when we learned how purely evil nestle is.
PersonalityFire
They've become positively NESTLEd into our way of life.
LieutenantGordon
Problem is, Nestle owns a SHITLOAD of brands
So don't buy them. It's that easy.
If you can't afford something maybe you shouldn't buy it nestle doesn't make anything you can't live without
As Gordon said - it's not that easy, especially if you're on the lower income bracket to buy ethically.
I have lived in New Zealand, Germany and Ireland. In all these places there have always been cheap alternatives available. Maybe not in USA?
USA it's not. Free Range, Organic, Free Trade? Massive mark ups.
I mean, that's great if you can afford to, but not everyone can
There are plenty of other choices for chocolate and coffee and pantry products in my part of the world. Hopefully for you too.
underageotters
They pay literally pennies for millions of gallons of water out of Canada. It makes me so angry. They also outbid a town trying to win
And that math is only for Ontario. In Quebec, it's $70 per million liters.
You're doing a heck of a lot better than in Ontario and that number is STILL awful!
The actual price is $3.71 dollars for a million liters. So that's $14 for a million gallons, not pennies for millions of gallons.
I meant to say litres... I fucked up
Also $14 is 1400 pennies... So still can be worded as literally pennies. :p also we have imperial gallons in Canada so it's 1687 pennies.
shovethis
LIKEWISE ALL THE WAY HERE IN NEW ZEALAND! Fuck Nestle
thelineguy
This is 100 % true! I live in the town that was fighting Nestlé! We have a website devoted to this http://saveourwater.ca/
primarkundies
Hey, neighbour.
FractalPrism
then claim "water shortage: every citizen needs to do their part!" and pass out "water violation tickets" to citizens.
rights to a well so the town could have a better source of fresh water.
That's a skewed take on the situation, from ONLY reading the huffington (highly liberal) article.
, and not just the ability to comment'' to the Ministry. They were looking for more political control. (their words). 3
A spokesman for Nestle said the company had "no idea'' the other bidder for the five-hectare site was the Township of Centre Wellington
"So purchasing the well would automatically give us control, and that's what we were looking for, control of our water source" 2
The municipality wanted to [buy] the well to keep its water supply "safe from commercial water taking'' long into the future, added Linton.
http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/22/nestle-outbids-small-ontario-municipality-to-buy-well-for-bottled-water_n_12139368.html
coinslotanus
basically fake news but it furthers your narrative so keep on pluckin that chicken
You gonna actually provide actually proof to it being fake are you gonna throw buzzwords at it and expect people to believe you
the internet outrage machine has thrown so much bullshit on that meme of a story its hilarious. its been done to death on reddit ages ago
saladsaladsalad
Not saying this peice is 'fake news', but we should generally avoid using Huffington Post as a factual source.
Phixik
During the California drought the government decided only Nestle and Almond farms could still take the water they wanted...
no they, caused the drought by taking so much water.
That's not how droughts work.
good amount of water in an area. company comes in, buys it for pennies, removes it. much less water in the area. "water shoratage"
That's not how droughts works. That's not on topic to the reply about the CA drought. That doesn't even apply to the Canada water situation.
https://imgur.com/4f6PuvE
Herecomesjohnny
a town in canada didn't have pennies? what?
myteenyverse
Did the town try to start a gofundme page?
From their own website: In Ontario, we currently pay $3.71 per million litres extracted. Source in reply
Vedar
How much do the locals have to pay for their water bill?
not much, yet.
ismarticus
Are those Canadian fun bucks or US corruption currency?
Canadian... So like $2.70 USD or something.
thebeacon
Canukbux*
Here is your up vote. Also that's racist
https://www.corporate.nestle.ca/en/ask-nestle/water/answers/how-much-is-nestle-paying-for-water-in-canada
"In 2014, we paid $1,027,450 in taxes in total to the County of Wellington/Township of Puslinch/Town of Erin and both school boards." >>
Just stating the cost of the water isn't telling the whole story.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Maybe there was a tradeoff. I know corps sometimes get crazy tax cuts offered. Maybe they took cheaper water for higher taxes.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Meanwhile, they sell a 16oz bottle at $1. God damn.
rudejohn
Most of their cost is in bottling and transport, not the actual source water itself.
There's barely a cost in bottling. Transit, maybe.
i love how factual information is buried under "show bad replies" such effin nonsense
imeanYUUUGE
DavosTheOnionKnight
Anything can be purchased with literal pennies. That doesn't explain much about the cost.
I posted a link from their website. If you want me to tell you exactly it's 371 pennies per million litres.
Yes, thanks for taking the time to calculate that. I was very concerned.
You're the who complained that I didn't explain the cost so clearly you were.
I know. That's what I said. Didn't you read my post?
DogsDidNothingWrong
It signifies a cost that is less than expected. This isn't that hard.
Maybe I am
Mirawatts
Oh, honey, no.
yes, honey, harder please.
Cmycherrytree
This was the funniest comment on this thread.
It's a figure of speech. Just like "KYS" implies immediately, not "Slowly over years by smoking cigarettes"
Just like how 'literal' is now a figure of speech that means 'figurative'. It's dumb. It's not 'literal' pennies.
Literal still means "in actuality" unless you're an ignorant 20 something who didn't pay attention in grammar class.
You're wrong. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-literally
It's LITERALLY 371 pennies for 1,000,000 litres of water. Since I fucked up and said gallons at first it's 1404 pennies for 1M US gallons or
1687 pennies if we're rounding up for 1M Imperial gallons. So look. I used it correctly 3 times for ya.
Figure of what speech? Not my speech.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
Pretty sure that was taken out of context
daxxcat
He's literally the bad guy from Quantum of Solace.
7grims
This guy might be one of the worse human samples I ever saw, nothing is more jawbreaking then listening to his ideas and visions.
ICantFigureOutGoodUsernameSoLetsSayIHadGreatIdeaButItWasTaken
That could be troubling in the future.
PsychRealms
Boycott Nestles products, hit em where it hurts,...their bottom line!!!
Panzieman
Tank girl anyone?
321Cheers
Clean water is a more important issue than vaccines. With the spread of disease, not having access to clean water kills more people yearly.
BuddahsBrother
Didn't they supply formula to African mother's to get babies "addicted" and then try to extort money somehow?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Yep!
FranFromTheNanny
I say go for it. I already pay to breathe. ????#asthma
seniormitty
This is taken out of context. It's not as nefarious and this meme makes it.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
while it was out of context, it was also disingenuous. He says people aren't properly valuing water, but he himself is trying as hard as
ForgotMyOtherAcct
possible to profit off that fact. The context for the quote makes him look like a humanitarian, when he makes the lives of people harder.
leodavinci1
I'd have to see the context to say it's out of context. That's a pretty much an absolutist comment.
sheppo
this is a out-of-context quote from 2005, that current events tag needs to die.
leodavinci1
Out-of-context? How so? How's this for current events... Nestle is now building a large plant in Arizona (which is in a drought, btw) 1 of 2
leodavinci1
and (just coincidently) at the same time two rural AZ communities are suddenly getting their main water source shut off. 2 of 2
zzyxx
welcome to 2013
Wellshiet
So how about Obama going for the second term huh? Can't wait to see what comes next
sheppo
2005*
thebluestthingsonearth
Pro tip: if you're buying bottled water, you're not paying for the water.
boobcat
no shit
Newthoenikker
So what's the problem? If you have access to water, filter it. If you don't, you'll have to pay to import it. Solution: don't live where 1/2
Newthoenikker
You don't have access to water.
mr20sak
You also pay to get rid of that water you drink every time you flush
AmazedAndConfused
This is blatantly taken out of context, and the argument false on its face, and was debunked. Stop trolling with 4 year old BS.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
How is this any better in context? And given the actions of the nestle corporation on numerous fronts this isn't even remotely the worst
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
thing they've said/done.
AmazedAndConfused
First, it wasn't the Nestle Corporation that said it, it was their former chairman. Second, do a little research and stop believing 1/2
AmazedAndConfused
everything you read on imgur as fact. A google search gets you this, in Peter Brabeck's words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dMA0_cLdeE
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Ah, so not the actual quote in context, some pretty words after the fact to make it seem less bad. Dismissed, please try again.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Like I said, they've done more than enough bad shit for me to not give them the benefit of the doubt.
darksamus8
Old, taken out of context, debunked.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Ever heard of the nestle milk formula scandal?
Groznek
You can say that, but nestle still has incredibly predatory practices towards water
Kdonn
Guys need to fact check before you bash. If you read up on it, apparently somebody took his interview out of context.
Kdonn
He actually thinks it IS a human right and wants everyone to have access to clean water.
Kdonn
http://www.nestle.com/ask-nestle/human-rights/answers/nestle-chairman-peter-brabeck-letmathe-believes-water-is-a-human-right
mr20sak
You also pay to get rid of that water you drink every time you flush
IAmThePrincess
I mean, water DOES require someone to find it, filter it, and bring it to you.
Mercenarity
something something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Jq3pJejPM
Mercenarity
(also this quote requires context)
LurkinNSmirkin
Go to a lake or river and have all the water you want. Don't expect a company to purify and pump it to your house for free.
illTemperedMutatedSeaBass
Sauce?
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
I heard rumors that Nestlé polluted local water supplies in remote areas in South America, so they could sell bottled water. Dunno if true.
Tanwolf
I would lean toward not true. Remote areas are likely too poor to afford the bottled water. Pollution as a side effect would be more likely.
thegreatheed
Out of context and debunked. https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/nestle-peter-brabeck-attitude-water-change-stewardship
honkaholic
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-privatisation-of-water-nestle-denies-that-water-is-a-fundamental-human-right/5332238
kingdav9
Everyone should have the right to access water in natural ways i.e rivers, lakes, rain, etc. However I don't think anyone has a right to 1/
kingdav9
1/ have it brought to you for free. Municipal water or otherwise. That being said fuck this guy and the Nestlé corporation
zma123456
That's not what he said. He was saying if we put a price on water only than the world will realize how important water really is.
justpointingouttheobvious
Jesus. You are what we call the "average American consumer". This is a man who wants to take away your RIGHT to water and tell you it's 1/2
justpointingouttheobvious
for your good and you are just going to take his word for it? Even in the face of some pretty staggering evidence to the contrary? Wow..
Carefuler
Truth. For many what has no cost, has no worth. Sad.
7grims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPY64EJcsG4
YoureyouandImnot
Are you saying we were mislead? Lied to? Never!
thegreatheed
The memes NEVER lie.
obsequiouslifechoices
You are the soul of Imgur.
CyoCyo
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3150150
sheppo
^ this. Read it, and repost it when this is reposted next week
chefsoda
It's dangerous to inject context into a witch hunt.
7grims
shut up! u really dont know this monster, he just wants to privatize anything that makes him money, no higher intentions or good will.
LarvaLamp
So your saying he's neutral?
7grims
I compared that person to a monster. For the twilight generation this might make it confusing, but he is definitely not a young vampire.
Newthoenikker
Oh, so you mean he's just doing exactly what society programs people to do? Capitalism means money is more important than anything
Mooseheart
Also, by coincidence, putting a price on it lets him make billions of dollars of desperate poor people. So win-win for everyone i guess.
Mooseheart
Here hes calling water as a human right an extremist position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=240&v=7iGj4GpAbTM
eroso
But what he did: They drained out wells of poor Africans, filtered it with super expensive system and forced them to buy it. Fuck that guy.
eroso
Locals now had to pay over 50% of their tiny income to Nestle for their water, when it used to be free. Filter was = boiling it.
zma123456
Even again in 2015 he said the world isn't managing the water crisis properly, and no one really seems to give a shit about water.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
he's not wrong, but he's actively working to take advantage of that. He's trying to make it worse for the world for his profit, he isn't
ForgotMyOtherAcct
taking steps to rectify the situation he identified.
FlorbFnarb
There is no world water crisis; there are local water crises.
justpointingouttheobvious
Of course he has to have a reason for privatizing water other than "So Nestle can get like suuuuper rich". It's called corporate propaganda.
7grims
SHUT UP. and actually look for his true intentions and words. He is a cooperate monster, possibly adapted his speech to convince ppl.
stormegedendarklordofall
Sauce?
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sheppo
citation needed
Zetor
Stop bying Kit-kat and other Nestlé shit!
Treblaine
In the US, KitKat is made by hershey. Same name, same product. Different company making it and profiting off it.
Astarion
Listen, Nestlé may be an evil mega-corporation, but they make some damn good cookies.
Treblaine
Bugsyjr9000
But Canadian Smarties are so good!
mr20sak
But they taste soooo Good!
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
They're almost impossible to avoid.
zma123456
I like their products.
spudpicker
And I like Darth Vader's voice, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pay to listen to his podcast.
stormegedendarklordofall
As stated in many comments from this post, calling their ethics questionable is an understatement...
735824
Then you're unwilling to look at the big picture.
zippydee
Really? Nestle chocolate isn't even that nice
nevoreJunkie
None of the commercial chocolate is nice anymore
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
Buy similar products they dont make
zma123456
Nah
NotOnTheRugMan
No.
bondagewithjesus
Dude thats like most of the shit at my grocery store nestle is a fucking huge company it's hard not to buy
ForgotMyOtherAcct
trying to buy their competitors when able is a great step, and what is more feasible to do
ICantFigureOutGoodUsernameSoLetsSayIHadGreatIdeaButItWasTaken
That would be hard.
DragonBapt
Only thing on there by Nestlé I get is Aero, and even then it's rare I buy those in the first place.
TheBritfag
Hah. Literally the only thing I own that is related to Nestle is a few Ralph Lauren polo shirts.
IchWillSchlafen
how the hell is that hard, its just some sweets and some designer clothing.
wizardblizzard
Well, the only products I use by nestle are coffee mate and KitKats. So I guess by sweet coffee
SneakEFoxxe
I know this is gonna put me on a list, but maybe violence is the answer?
ItCanOnlyBeANipple
I'll take 'what's an 8 letter word for physical aggression' for $200
Mooseheart
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -some guy they shot in the head.
Killersmail
FindusSomKatten
jfk if someone wondered
DanOrtega
In all seriousness, is all shitty junk food what they produce. quite easy to avoid.
mksu
Good luck boycotting every business that thinks that way.
Radix865
Good luck boycotting Nestle alone, they push out a fuckload of things.
eroso
Bad PR on social media works wonders too. Call them out on their FB-page, use their # and give exposure to their wrongdoings.
Foopfoop
Woah. Let's not be unreasonable here. Let's think before we act
NotOnTheRugMan
Right?! I mean Kit Kats are fucking delicious.
Kregular365
No!
eroso
I've read plenty about Nestle. I know how this quote is out of context, but I know they are still cruel with their aggressive businesses.
thebluestthingsonearth
You probably don't understand just how many products Nestle makes.
Kusko25
They produce Maggi! Not sure how it is out there but here in Germany that's a big thing. I am miffed
bradleylibralesso11
And I don't buy a single one
ForgotMyOtherAcct
that doesn't mean you can't try. Something as simple as trying to remember nestle brands and buying competitors when able is great.
angelghoul
I looked up their products, they own like everything.
samuelphipps131337
They're basically Abstergo
DotNull
They're not the only one.
Treblaine
It's mostly candy, sugary cereal, bottled water and instant coffee. Turns out I was boycotting them already just by not eating that shit.
EvenStevensEvenSemen
Free trade coffee and a britta and BAM nestle is out of my life
Treblaine
Britta water filter?
EvenStevensEvenSemen
Yea, my tap water is nasty
rshini
necessary, my tap water has chlorine in it.
DieHardIsAChristmasMovie
Nestle is the epitome of an evil fucking corporation. Got women hooked on their formula in Africa so they would stop lactating
starrychloe
https://youtu.be/U_80bWlLJvg
porcupinebuttsniffer
I'm watching a film right now called The Constant Gardener which tells a similar story. It won Rachel Weisz an Oscar. Highly recommended.
WithPride
In British Colombia (Canada), pays only $2.25 for every 1,000,000 liters. WHAT THE FUCK!?
PickledDundersnoot
Metric fucktons of super clean water in the reservoirs and aquifers just waiting to grow up and be real profit centers one day.
Banditsalmon
Sauce?
rkogta
Source*
DieHardIsAChristmasMovie
http://www.businessinsider.com/nestles-infant-formula-scandal-2012-6/#r-on-want-said-this-undermined-womens-confidence-in-breastfeeding-6
VodkaReindeer
Jesus Christ that layout hurts my brain (ads are blocked).
mineovermatter
Thanks for the link. BI is some of the most convoluted reporting out there though.Still, it's a start
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Can't read it without turning off adblock. fuck that site.
rshini
Tl;dr version they lie so women believe formula is best, babies died due to the unclean water and malnutrition
Seggs
or open in incognito
OhWellIDontLiekTurtles
Stop useing a shitty adblock and use uBlock Origin. Works fine for me.
elitereloaded
Confirmed. I use uBlock and have no issues viewing that site.
SuperJere
I have uBlock Origin and that site still says it must be turned off in order to view the page.
TheStateOfDenial
It costs them money to build and host the site. They don't owe you shit for free.
Corrodias
Indeed they don't. If they don't care for traffic, they *could* just turn off the server, but either way, I'm not playing that game.
RaynWisp
You can acknowledge a site's rights and still say "Fuck them" for what they choose to do.
daguq
I fucking love Kit-Kats but haven't bought one for many years.
DysgraphicProgrammer
And good luck boycotting them, they own half the brands in your grocery store.
Rengii
Yeah unless you live on a farm and grow all your food it can be difficult to avoid buying something unconnected to Nestle.
CGMR
Yep. You're best bet is to hit up specialty food stores like Whole Foods (expensive, I know)... a lot of the brands are local/ethical.
DysgraphicProgrammer
Yes, but at Whole Foods, I am implicitly buying into the anti-scientific non-GMO fearmongering.
ratfinkfuck
I've tried for years since I learned about them using slave workers. It's a fucking minefield honestly
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
All the water we had when I was deployed in Iraq was provided by them. This does not surprise me.
TheS4ndm4n
They probably charges the government (taxpayers) $15 a gallon or more.
Ryanator50
wait.... nestle icecream is made from human milk?
GnomeDeGuerre
Is theft ok if only Nestle gets losses?
WithPride
Nestle pays $3.71 for every 1,000,000 liters and then turns around and sells it to you for $1.50 for 1/2 liter. ($3.00 per liter) in Ontario
starrychloe
They just outsmarted them. It was completely voluntary. Like you getting hooked on Facebook instead of looking for a job.
TheScummiestFuckingFlowerBoy
Most recent post is a R&M meme, probably identifies with Rick. Please, tell us about your IQ.
proutonium
This is the most downvoted post I have seen!
Corrodias
Preying upon the vulnerable does fit most folks' idea of what "evil" is.
starrychloe
You shouldn't shame people who don't want to breast-feed https://youtu.be/U_80bWlLJvg
Corrodias
Indeed. I wouldn't, haven't, and would like others not to. That has nothing to do with the topic, but I don't disagree.
starrychloe
Right because all African women are vulnerable and incapable of rational thought. Sure. So racist...
GnomeDeGuerre
Nice trolling.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Ok, sweetheart, here in reality theres this thing called "education". You might be quite intelligent but not have access to it.
starrychloe
https://youtu.be/U_80bWlLJvg Yes educate yourself
KarakLohr
By your logic it’d be completely fine for me to “outsmart” you by giving you rat poison instead of sugar for your coffee. C’mon now...
MrParker64
No, his logic would be that the people were not smart enough to realize breast milk is essentially free, clean, and better for their kids.
MrParker64
They chose to buy something that wasn't needed, then chose to use it incorrectly by using dirty water as using less per serving.
BannedAssholes
I've seen this comment a hundred times and it only gets funnier.
ispoopabadwordcuzimnotallowedtocuss
Pics or it didn’t happen. :)
starrychloe
Right, because rat poison is the same as life nourishing formula. So irrational...
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Nourishing formula that they had little money to spend on and no clean water to prepare with, and no milk because they had been giving it
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
out long enough to for the women to stop lactating? Please, go suck some corporate dick elsewhere, it will give your mouth something more
jrbickers
devils advocate: this is part of a quote taken out of context. he was referring to how people can fill their swim pools, water their lawns..
jrbickers
with the same water that is used for life giving necessities. that there aught to be some kind of control over that.
jrbickers
and california is recent proof of this. illegal well drilling, overuse, stealing, lots of crimes went on with the water during draught.
jrbickers
but of course. this is a ceo of a company that takes local resources, bottles it, and sells it abroad. so of course he is worse than the...
jrbickers
topic he got us bickering over.
abitskeptical
Aught and draught? Jeez louise!
Ireadhentaifortheart
We still pay for water, I hope you all know
MrSwaggerMcJaeger
Do we? Were i live i get water and elecrtricity payed in my rent
eroso
Poor Africans didn't pay for their water bc they couldn't afford it. Nestle drained all the local well-water and forced them to buy it.
Ireadhentaifortheart
Well obviously I disagree with that. I just think privatizing water, is a more complex issue. Tap water, is a product. Not saying I agree
eroso
Sure every case is individual one. What Nestle does in Africa is evil. They stole the water from their wells and profited from their misery.
Ireadhentaifortheart
Which is absolutely reprehensible. I just wanted to clarify on that one point, I still hate that guy for what Nestle has done to people
wheresthebaby
Sauce?
eroso
Sorry, It was at least a year ago when I read about this case. No sources in memory.
wheresthebaby
No worries. How were they allowed to deplete the water well water legally?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Because its a piss poor african country and they are rich enough to afford good lawyers? Legality is whatever the rich cunts say it is mate.
eroso
Most likely the local government didnt have geo-experts to tell what the deal ment. Who would had known they would deplete the ground waters
wheresthebaby
Sauce?
Ireadhentaifortheart
I say it is a product brcause it is not just water. Treatment plants take groundwater and add chlorine, fluoride, etc. And depending where
Ireadhentaifortheart
You live you get taxed by the local gov or you pay the water company yourself as far as I know. I used to work at a plant.
Ireadhentaifortheart
Jk you werent talking to me haha
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
You don't pay for IT. You pay for the maintenance of the plumbing and purification of it. Nobody demaps payment when you go to river, "yet"
Ireadhentaifortheart
Haha okay sorry. I hoped "Tap water is a product" would be clearer. And yeah, we might. But insinuating he meant all water is not correct
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
If you think him saying that is bad, go read about the African milk powder scandal. That'll really rustle your jimmies.
AlasYeScurvyDog
Jewz.......
Ssexxyblue
Rustle my jimmies, this has now replaced grind my gears
Endro22
If I ever start a band.. I'm using that name...so elegant..."The African Milk Powder Scandal"
bravotipo
my mother had us boycott them ever since. I grew up nestlè free (there were many alternatives to nesquik and much better in taste).
maximuminnovationstevejobs
Thank you for bringing people's attention to this.
Noroelle
But what are a few dead baby's against profit ?
Jazzgirl205
That was when the Catholic Church told people to boycott Nestle.
DanOrtega
How about the time Nestle sold formula in the UK that made babies reject mom's milk?
tooomanysteves
Yep. I boycotted Nestle after that.
EdmondAlmond
Did it work?
gnargnar99
Yep
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
Boycotting Nestle is _really_ difficult, they own so many brands that don't carry the Nestle name. I do avoid if possible, though.
PolkaPisteFi
C'mon, you just need to go through the list of their brands, find the ones you use and then choose a product from some other brand next time
tooomanysteves
Well that is true. You can look up what brands they own online, however.
PlatypusPlatypus
Consider them rustled!
proutonium
My mum wouldn't let us have nestle for our whole childhoods because of this. Same with Coca-Cola.
PigleythePig
What has coke done?
maximuminnovationstevejobs
They also used paramilitaries to force people in developing countries to work for them at shit wages
proutonium
They pollute water sources and cause water shortages to make the product. Think there was some suggestion of them doing it on purpose
proutonium
So that people bought more of their drink but don't know if that was ever proved. Hippies Mums huh...
PigleythePig
:O guess I need to boycott them too!
DanOrtega
In my country? They have taken over water mantles and placed bottling factories on top. WHICH IS CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGAL.
proutonium
What country?
DanOrtega
Mexico. If you are in the US and wonder why Mexican CocaCola tastes better, is because of that.
Barbarian90001
For profit companies increased access & lowered cost to safe drinking water in Africa https://www.moxon.net/ghana/drink_in_a_bag.html
Barbarian90001
Everyday I realize imgurians have almost no life or world experience and justify their lives with virtue signalling.
Mooseheart
Virtue signaling, is that the latest buzz phrase for "not being a complete shit-heel"?
LoudBirb
I have absolutely no idea how you interpreted people stating facts about some really shitty things one specific company did into an...
LoudBirb
... implication that all corporations are evil. Ironically, I think in this case, the one that was virtue signaling was... you.
chickeninthebushbush
Sauce?
Treybetrey
RogenaValorina
Google it you spoon fed imbecile.
chickeninthebushbush
That's the problem, I found so much bad-written rubbish that I ask my fellow Imgurians to help me find a reliable source
B4dger
I laughed, have an upvote.
Barbarian90001
@OP Sure, think everyone should have lots of stuff, everyone should have a right to a house, food, security. Who's going to provide it?
misfit119
Found the Ayn Rand.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
So if you lost everything, say to a flood, you'd be ok with the relief worker telling you "water is $10, it's a privilege, not a right"?
paracameraca5772
Dude people are being born in a planet with the same rights as you. The fact that some people have capitalised all sources of this planet do
paracameraca5772
Does not qualify them as sub people. Where you are born is pure luck
Mooseheart
If we dont punish people for being born poor, they wont try harder to be born rich, duh.
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
There is a huge difference between subsidising those in poverty and a company intentionally endangering people's lives for profit.
Barbarian90001
Travel more, virtue signalling is low effort, learning about the world is harder https://www.moxon.net/ghana/drink_in_a_bag.html
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
Not sure the point you are making. Whether I have travelled or not (and for the record I have) is irrelevant for this issue.
Barbarian90001
How is he endangering peoples life? Access to safe drinking water has been a problem in developing countries, it was private companies ...
Mooseheart
You were replying to a comment about powder milk scandal, where they literally endangered peoples lifes...
Barbarian90001
That increased access and lowered cost, before everything that government and aide agencies did failed.
Notme68
You realize the US government provided some of the the cleanest tap water on the planet- then private companies convinced 1
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
If you have to ask how Nestle endangered people's lives then you simply don't know what went on. Go do some reading.
jukkz
TL;DR: Nestlé campaigned against breastfeeding in poverty areas to sell formula. Millions of babies died of malnutrition.
Tanwolf
In the US around that time, the rich used formula because breastfeeding was what poor women do since they couldn't afford formula.
FingerInYourDickHole
:(
beefcheeks17
why i oughta rustle his jimmies right up his crack & hang him off a lampost
SandyTentaclez
...wait... am i understanding you correctly?! Against literally breastfeeding your child?
Yuven1
How is he still alive?
kojenk
In certain improvished eastern countries they paid doctors to convince mothers the milk supplements were better than breastmilk.
kojenk
Lead to a lot of dead babies.
worldsokayestspeler
Yup. Jimmies rustled.
AnykindofTacos
GrouchyMarx
Is this the famous capitalism with a human face I've been hearing a lot about?
Mooseheart
Human face costs extra.
EID0LON
cookiesandmilf
BlainesMagmar
What cunts
JingleheimerScimdt
Wow. Fuck nestle
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Well, guess I need a new brand of hot cocoa because it doesn't seem right buying from asshats like that. Any recommendations?
sergeanttbag
they make everything not just hot coco
aperfectlycromulentusername
I personally like Ghirardelli brand
MetaSomma
How did they convince people not to do it?
Rip42
Who is they, what is it? Nestle trying to raise formula usage, or the public getting people to breastfeed again? Nestle-lying, public-lernin
larrykinney
Nestle would give new mothers in the developing world free powdered milk until they stopped lactating, then make them pay for it.
Nykidemus
that is fucking awful.
MasterPrime
marketing. People constantly fall for advertising. That's why tinder is full of bots. It works.
MetaSomma
But these aren't your average first-world consumers, we're talking people who are only a generation removed from slavery
MasterPrime
It doesn't matter. We've had snake-oil salesman and grifters since time began. Advertising is a con game.
SilvrDragon52
I think it may be time to never buy Nestle again
sergeanttbag
Lmao let us know how that works out. Don't forget to Google their corporate holdings so you can avoid them all!
ArkoneAxon
It's worked okay for me so far. I may have bought a few of their products, but just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't TRY.
Cyrillus
Good luck with that. They own about 50 percent of the foodstock in any given grocery store.
ArkoneAxon
I avoid as many of their brands as I can. Just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't TRY.
PolkaPisteFi
I haven't bought anything from them in seven years. It's not that hard!
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
Why/how... can someone make a mother not breastfeed their baby?
maximuminnovationstevejobs
Extremely misleading marketing in areas with poor education. Also giving enough for free that moms stopped lactating.
joevair
Basically get them addicted to formula.....
bluemofia
Most easily by convincing them that formula is better than breastmilk for kids. Not that hard when the victims aren't well educated. They1/3
bluemofia
also gave them free samples of formula to try out, just long enough so that the body stops producing breastmilk from lack of use so that 2/3
bluemofia
they have no choice but to use formula after it becomes pay to use. 3/3
domenick91
Fuck everything, bad shit keeps happening,where's that network I voted for for the 2016 election?
Enigmastick
Do these ridiculously rich people even have empathy?
DangerTrain
Most of them are no longer about money, it's all about power and having the big number. They are far beyond what they could ever need.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Only for others in their income bracket, otherwise it's just "how can we bleed more blood from the poor?"
SaintLuciferVonAllah
No.
hammersquirrel
http://www.businessinsider.com/ceos-often-have-psychopathic-traits-2017-7
EdgerAlanJoe
Bill gates seems to be aiight sometimes
joevair
It took his wife to wake him up, though. He's really fired up now.
joevair
Let's ask Trump and Mnuchin!
Katalliaan
Empathy doesn't get your company more money.
RosieGarden
Meanwhile in India any and all breast milk substitutes are required by law to state that mother's milk is best.
Wellshiet
That's nice. Too bad every other part of that country is shit. Figuratively and literally.
sp1cychick3n
Bit of an over exaggeration. There are some serious issues with it but not everything.
sp1cychick3n
Bit of an over exaggeration. There are some serious issues with it but not everything.
RosieGarden
It's very slowly getting under control, but it'll take a looong time.
bedsound
+1 for cautious optimism. I have very mixed feelings about Modi.
KleptoKea
Then stop buying their f*cking products it's not that hard. many of us started that years ago when we learned how purely evil nestle is.
PersonalityFire
They've become positively NESTLEd into our way of life.
LieutenantGordon
Problem is, Nestle owns a SHITLOAD of brands
KleptoKea
So don't buy them. It's that easy.
Newthoenikker
If you can't afford something maybe you shouldn't buy it nestle doesn't make anything you can't live without
rshini
As Gordon said - it's not that easy, especially if you're on the lower income bracket to buy ethically.
KleptoKea
I have lived in New Zealand, Germany and Ireland. In all these places there have always been cheap alternatives available. Maybe not in USA?
rshini
USA it's not. Free Range, Organic, Free Trade? Massive mark ups.
LieutenantGordon
I mean, that's great if you can afford to, but not everyone can
KleptoKea
There are plenty of other choices for chocolate and coffee and pantry products in my part of the world. Hopefully for you too.
underageotters
They pay literally pennies for millions of gallons of water out of Canada. It makes me so angry. They also outbid a town trying to win
thegreatheed
And that math is only for Ontario. In Quebec, it's $70 per million liters.
underageotters
You're doing a heck of a lot better than in Ontario and that number is STILL awful!
thegreatheed
The actual price is $3.71 dollars for a million liters. So that's $14 for a million gallons, not pennies for millions of gallons.
underageotters
I meant to say litres... I fucked up
underageotters
Also $14 is 1400 pennies... So still can be worded as literally pennies. :p also we have imperial gallons in Canada so it's 1687 pennies.
shovethis
LIKEWISE ALL THE WAY HERE IN NEW ZEALAND! Fuck Nestle
thelineguy
This is 100 % true! I live in the town that was fighting Nestlé! We have a website devoted to this http://saveourwater.ca/
primarkundies
Hey, neighbour.
FractalPrism
then claim "water shortage: every citizen needs to do their part!" and pass out "water violation tickets" to citizens.
underageotters
rights to a well so the town could have a better source of fresh water.
thegreatheed
That's a skewed take on the situation, from ONLY reading the huffington (highly liberal) article.
thegreatheed
, and not just the ability to comment'' to the Ministry. They were looking for more political control. (their words). 3
thegreatheed
A spokesman for Nestle said the company had "no idea'' the other bidder for the five-hectare site was the Township of Centre Wellington
thegreatheed
"So purchasing the well would automatically give us control, and that's what we were looking for, control of our water source" 2
thegreatheed
The municipality wanted to [buy] the well to keep its water supply "safe from commercial water taking'' long into the future, added Linton.
underageotters
http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/22/nestle-outbids-small-ontario-municipality-to-buy-well-for-bottled-water_n_12139368.html
coinslotanus
basically fake news but it furthers your narrative so keep on pluckin that chicken
Treybetrey
Groznek
You gonna actually provide actually proof to it being fake are you gonna throw buzzwords at it and expect people to believe you
coinslotanus
the internet outrage machine has thrown so much bullshit on that meme of a story its hilarious. its been done to death on reddit ages ago
saladsaladsalad
Not saying this peice is 'fake news', but we should generally avoid using Huffington Post as a factual source.
Phixik
During the California drought the government decided only Nestle and Almond farms could still take the water they wanted...
FractalPrism
no they, caused the drought by taking so much water.
thegreatheed
That's not how droughts work.
FractalPrism
good amount of water in an area. company comes in, buys it for pennies, removes it. much less water in the area. "water shoratage"
thegreatheed
That's not how droughts works. That's not on topic to the reply about the CA drought. That doesn't even apply to the Canada water situation.
thegreatheed
https://imgur.com/4f6PuvE
Herecomesjohnny
a town in canada didn't have pennies? what?
myteenyverse
Did the town try to start a gofundme page?
underageotters
From their own website: In Ontario, we currently pay $3.71 per million litres extracted. Source in reply
Vedar
How much do the locals have to pay for their water bill?
ForgotMyOtherAcct
not much, yet.
ismarticus
Are those Canadian fun bucks or US corruption currency?
underageotters
Canadian... So like $2.70 USD or something.
thebeacon
Canukbux*
ismarticus
Here is your up vote. Also that's racist
underageotters
https://www.corporate.nestle.ca/en/ask-nestle/water/answers/how-much-is-nestle-paying-for-water-in-canada
Tanwolf
"In 2014, we paid $1,027,450 in taxes in total to the County of Wellington/Township of Puslinch/Town of Erin and both school boards." >>
Tanwolf
Just stating the cost of the water isn't telling the whole story.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Maybe there was a tradeoff. I know corps sometimes get crazy tax cuts offered. Maybe they took cheaper water for higher taxes.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Meanwhile, they sell a 16oz bottle at $1. God damn.
rudejohn
Most of their cost is in bottling and transport, not the actual source water itself.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
There's barely a cost in bottling. Transit, maybe.
coinslotanus
i love how factual information is buried under "show bad replies" such effin nonsense
imeanYUUUGE
DavosTheOnionKnight
Anything can be purchased with literal pennies. That doesn't explain much about the cost.
underageotters
I posted a link from their website. If you want me to tell you exactly it's 371 pennies per million litres.
DavosTheOnionKnight
Yes, thanks for taking the time to calculate that. I was very concerned.
underageotters
You're the who complained that I didn't explain the cost so clearly you were.
DavosTheOnionKnight
I know. That's what I said. Didn't you read my post?
DogsDidNothingWrong
It signifies a cost that is less than expected. This isn't that hard.
DavosTheOnionKnight
Maybe I am
Mirawatts
Oh, honey, no.
DavosTheOnionKnight
yes, honey, harder please.
underageotters
Cmycherrytree
This was the funniest comment on this thread.
MetaSomma
It's a figure of speech. Just like "KYS" implies immediately, not "Slowly over years by smoking cigarettes"
thegreatheed
Just like how 'literal' is now a figure of speech that means 'figurative'. It's dumb. It's not 'literal' pennies.
DavosTheOnionKnight
Literal still means "in actuality" unless you're an ignorant 20 something who didn't pay attention in grammar class.
thegreatheed
You're wrong. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-literally
underageotters
It's LITERALLY 371 pennies for 1,000,000 litres of water. Since I fucked up and said gallons at first it's 1404 pennies for 1M US gallons or
underageotters
1687 pennies if we're rounding up for 1M Imperial gallons. So look. I used it correctly 3 times for ya.
DavosTheOnionKnight
Figure of what speech? Not my speech.