itsNotAphaseMomThisIsMyLifeNow
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5490
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Lied and now justice has been served
And let’s not forget the people that claim they were raped or sexually assaulted when they weren’t. They ruin people’s lives and make others question legitimate victims. The penalties for this type of behavior need to be severe.
EZBeast
This is really sad.
atheistzombie
The Daily Mail is a tabloid piece of litter. like The New York Post, or World News Daily. They print this garbage to rev up the ignorant.
DanAndsome
She’s a kid. There are adults behind this.
Kwtch
Even if true why would this have made the news ? seems something the school could have dealt with, then again it's the DailyMail so..
Trimule
I'm pretty sure I saw this original report on the evening national news (NBC?)
Pesilat25
the fuck is a 12 year old doing in high school?
ScottaHemi
without middle school, high school starts as 7th grade.
Imadudeplayingadudedisguisedasanotherdude
I knew this was going to be some Jussie Smollet shit when I first read about it!
dadjokes365
Seriously me too ?. Not joking
DonGeilo2087
This "trashy" person is a twelve year old child.
SideshowBob
I agree. Dumb decision that hurt others and there should be consequences but I’m not ready to completely crucify her.
HsuDoNihm
Just like... y'know, tie her to a cross. Don't use nails though. Let her down after 8 hours. That can be her job every day.
Lululou
So much complaining about the few fake sexual assault claims and so little complaining about the oh so many sexual assaults. Kinda sad.
Magnum3point141592654
I call this behavior "pulling a Jussie".
dizzyturtle
The French actor?
Magnum3point141592654
Jussie Smollett
MissMissingno
In a christian school its What Would Jussie Do
Cheomesh
Not an "Ashley"?
6Oh4
I knew it was made up. That whole story was bullshit and I called it on Twitter for the triggered idiots.
morithum
How did you know?
6Oh4
I have nieces & nephews her age. No way any shit like that happens without someone recording or posting a pic etc. It just felt Smollett'd.
morithum
So, the verbs you were looking for then were “suspected,” “thought,” “presumed,” “assumed,” etc.
6Oh4
She still lied. She made it a racial thing when she didn't have to, including creating an act of violence.
6Oh4
The outrage by people was also just so pathetic without facts. Always wait for the whole story. Always.
6Oh4
Someone is mad but it's literally proven to be false. Go read how quick people were to play up the race issue vs how people reacted 1/2
6Oh4
when their outrage was because of a false allegation. Where's the outrage that someone lied and they went on a racist tirade?? 2/2
tpanyS
But here's the issue, one could say you're just as much of a triggered individual, you're immediately taking a recant as definitively (1/?)
tpanyS
the whole story without seeming any potential room that sometimes people recant despite an actual crime. None of us are investigators (2/?)
tpanyS
involved in this, so why don't we sit back and let the actual investigators look into it for the actual whole story? (3/3)
greg20151975
A slap on a wrist most likely - but it would not be the same if this was other way around
SofaKingSpecial
She's a child. Obviously this kind of abuse of power is horrible, but she's a kid and I hope she learns and grows from this mistake.
reallysadbee
Seriously. I can't believe the outrage here like no one ever lied about how they damaged something when they were young.
IanFlairCresent
What she did — not ok, but it’s not her fault our media takes this shit and runs with it and everyone grabs their pitchforks ?
NastyLuv
If that was my kid, I'd be waiting at home with the clippers. Play stupid games.
SpoilsburyToastMan
Pigdogcow
Often it’s the parents fault to begin with, when kids do fucked up shit.
Nutinbutbootson
Story I read never even mentioned the parents. Sounded like she lived with her grandparents.
SiIverSoul
Yeah, often the parents manipulate their kids. Didnt that bomb clock kid have parents that tried to use the situation for their own good?
sarabearr
I saw the initial video about her on Twitter. But now when knowing it was fake I kind of just wonder why people keep making shit up
Seanspeed
You've never heard of somebody lying before? You're saying this on Imgur?
sarabearr
Uh, no? I’m questioning why this has become a trend and that I don’t get it.
Seanspeed
It's not a trend. Liars have always existed.
sarabearr
Oh my god. I’m talking about going lying on the internet for “clout” and attention. Who pissed in your cereal this morning
Seanspeed
This is nothing new. My cereal is fine. You're the one acting wildly outraged here. People lie on the internet all thetime.
HelloMax
Because victimhood has been given a tremendous amount of value in current society.
Seanspeed
Any society should take victims seriously.
HelloMax
Of course, but what we’re seeing is people pretending to be victims to gain notoriety. This obviously is a big problem.
Seanspeed
Again, nothing new. It's only seen as a big problem as the media amplifies examples when it's minorities.
thechamps
Deplorable. I hope this young lady is ashamed of herself and learns a lesson here.
MyRespectableAlterEgo
12 Year Olds are dumbasses - I'm being 100% serious when I say I'm sure this will teach her a lesson. She's still young enough to learn.
PolarHailStorm
Let's hope she doesn't learn how to be a better liar.
thechamps
I think it's important to report on. But there is no need to expose identities.
MyRespectableAlterEgo
I think a prominent retraction of the earlier story would've been more appropriate; this risks perpetuating the outrage-cycle
CrazyBlackDog
If there is no sever punishment, there is no lesson learned.
thechamps
Agreed. But I wonder what punishment is suitable? That's what I have a hard time deciding.
CrazyBlackDog
We could start by applying the same punishment the boys would have suffered otherwise.
MyRespectableAlterEgo
I hope the negative press doesn't totally ruin her life & spoil the lesson - I think it was irresponsible for the media to report on this
myblvdmnstr
I hope to God her parents are horrified. Hopefully her actions aren’t reflective of a learned attitude.
terribletruth
Last I read her parents said they're terribly embarrassed and apologized to everyone involved.
thechamps
Sadly in almost all cases this comes from the parents. We can hope that isn't the case and she will have her life sorted out. -
thechamps
- I still wish her well and hope the usual death threat brigade doesn't latch onto this.
SVTFreak
It’s exactly this why everyone should be innocent until proven guilty.
SidneyHarbor
The accused are lucky they are minors or else their names would permanently be attached to the accusations on the internet.
changeitanytime
Career defense attorney here. Talked to hundreds of jurors. Innocent until proven guilty is not a real thing to the vast majority of jurors.
EladMan
Unless, not until.
TheyCallMeJimmyButMyNameIsJames
It's also why people who argue for due process in college don't necessarily like rapists.
Dhatudhatu
Social media has made a lot of people, including actual actual media, forget all about this.
Tanknav
Except Trump or any conservative, right? I mean this is still Imgur so let’s not get carried away with fair mindedness......
Sandyundertones
Seems like that was the case here. I don't remember anyone posting anything about this prior to this point.
ionvelothie
"what's that now?" - Media in general
EightyMeterLongDong
Not white people. They are racist homophobic bigot sociopaths even when proven innocent. Welcome to fucked up world of SJW/Media justice.
sammirotty
Offda, bud
mewtooie
This. Give victims the help they need, even if they're not actually victims... But never take action without facts.
EternalAzhrei
Listen and believe does not go far enough. I feel like "trust AND verify" would be the best standard.
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Every is, allegedly. Probably. Till social media gets involved.
GeminiSprk
Yeah, but it's faster and more effective to smear them in court of public opinion. Truth is irrelevant. Gotta get that artificial validation
boogiemanspud
Hey there pal, those baits aren't gonna click themselves! /s
DarkUranium
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
JovialPastry6
Exactly, people form a lynch mob before they even know. How many people will ever hear that this story was false?
GeminiSprk
The media does it too. They put out an article full of lies/misinformation only to make a retraction the next day, but it's too late.
JovialPastry6
The people want to take out their anger on someone, the juicy lie goes around the world ten times before the truth even comes out.
ChickenROAR
Starting young for this kind of BS. I sincerely hope she learns from this.
gbray0700360
Where is my shocked face
grbgrb0439
Wonder where she learned that !
ScottaHemi
CNN MSNBC Buzzfeed HuffPo WaPo etc
jmulderr
"Twelve year old does stupid thing," counts as a headline now? I guess that's one way to get a 24h news cycle.
EightyMeterLongDong
Any chance to make white people look bad is a bright flame for the media moths and their blind ignorant followers.
tubbers06
I saw the original story on Today. It made news because mrs. Pence works at that school. This is probably correction story with update
jmulderr
Ah, that makes more sense. Gotta feel for the students at that school if all their standard stupidity makes the news.
h0tdoglatte
Amazing how often this crap happens
V1K1NGFVNERAL
In general, yes. Statistically, far less significant.
snakeoilsalesman
The old Reverse-To-Kill-A-Mockingbird
purgethefilthyheretics
Lmao you yanks are fuckd up, things like this is heard of not even a quarter as much as in USA. You guys blow it up all the time
Chereazi
Compared to actual occurrences of stuff like this it's really really rare
Mediumtim2
Something like this has actually happened?
zoezoebelle
No, never. Being a black girl in the US has always been a fucking cake walk.
Asteroidrules
Yeah, somehow despite making up less than 10% of hatecrime reports, the hoaxes get more than 10 times as much coverage.
chicktracy
Because it shows that all hate crime reports are actually fake. /s
Galdrack
Less often than actual racial abuse by a rather significant margin.
ramaldrol
That's the unfortunate part. It doesn't happen often, but when it does it's WAY more publicized.
julian0223
You may have a point. News are "news" only if it's about something atypical. So yes, as these cases are more strange they get more difusion.
LookHarder101
I don't see hate crimes on the news much but Everytime it seems like it's just a short while before a minority admits to doing it.
ramaldrol
That's my point, though - real ones happen way more than you hear about them, because they're not always considered newsworthy anymore.
LookHarder101
Even celebrities get in on it, Jesse smolett
purgethefilthyheretics
That's one, you used plural form. Whom else?
FantabulousMan
That's because if your a victim of any crime, your lawyer will tell you to shut the fuck up to minimize the chance of the perp getting away.
Akyan
It happens enough for legitimate accounts of hate crimes, domestic violence, rape, ect to be called into question more than they should.
doomedlord656
I mean, only on the issue of rape, I think people often over-estimate how often its true, and i say that knowing how callous it sounds.
doomedlord656
I say it from the perspective of a law student, who has looked at the statistics, who has studied them. I know how the studies work.
doomedlord656
When we get stats on how many people are victims of rape, its ALWAYS the highest number that they can generate. Conversely, modern
dotnetbeast
Another Juicy Smooyay situation. Jesus Christ.
PeterOlintoowesmeacoffee
The French guy?
The13thDude
Justice for Juicy!
mattihase
Juiced ice for Justin McElroy.
TonytheStray
Not exactly: she's 12 and admitted she lied. jussie smollett is a full "adult" but just too big of a bitch to own up that he was lying.
zeroisnothing
Bingo
Fauxcused
Why did you have to find a black person example? No white people have ever lied?
RADwasagreatmovie
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
Jew See Smoo yay
TheDreadLordOfDownvotes
“Dis is MAGA country ****** *****!”
MyRespectableAlterEgo
I've never seen better comic delivery than his specials - he's just so authentically having a good time. Smart but not smug, it's gold.
B99Reactions
TheBeardlyOne
Maga hats?! Pearson, find out where Kanye West was last night
BucNasty
In Chicago?
wiilyc22
Thank you for the correct French pronunciation, most go with the colloquial “Smollet”
OriginalPiR8
Sorry but why did no one catch this earlier. "They cut off my dreads!" "No they didn't they are on your head" "Oh. Shit."
HistorianCzelle
It was accused that they cut SOME of her dreads off or hacked them off at bad lengths, not that they shaved her bald.
Silas007
If you find a headline unbelievable there is a good chance there's more to it. Not that I would waste my time researching further.
godskook
This started cause her was "different" and her grandmother noticed that. I can't find the real reason the hair was off, but they looked.
WhatTheWhatTheWhatTheWhat
"...covered her mouth, and clipped her hair, calling it 'ugly' and 'nappy.' " -first clue, most white kids don't know what nappy means...
cniht
"most white kids don't know what nappy means." Nor do they give a flying fuck.
Sayagain
It means I am le tired and will take a nap
TheBeardlyOne
Yes we do, I take a nappy when I'm sleepy
Cheomesh
They did where I came from.
Cybrwzrd
I’ll attest to this. Grew up in Iowa. Graduated college in ‘04. I didn’t know what nappy meant until that Don Imus “scandal” in ‘07
hollanderpolder
What’s nappy?
TheBeardlyOne
It's what you take when you're sleepy
PedanticGonkDroid
Diaper, I think?
fskn
Google shows me a diaper and something about frizzy hair...
ididitall
after a big lunchy
ikagawa
Weird. Everyone knew what it meant in the 90s.
WhatTheWhatTheWhatTheWhat
It was probably more commonly used then. I grew up in the 80's and never heard it until high school.
epoke
When you inflate the value of victimhood, you encourage the unscrupulous to feign injury.
godskook
The deflation of the burden of proof is a more important factor, but yeah.
epoke
Hmm... I agree that the burden of proof is a significant factor and that it’s taken a massive hit.
nojustsayitdont
No.
elecvette
To a point. But at some point we have to learn to be accountable to ourselves.
juststopandthink
https://media.giphy.com/media/XSk4mZFw3i6as/giphy-downsized-large.gif
bekind2joeblake
Ya, we should go back to the days when we sent death threats and forced victims to live in hiding the rest of their lives
SarcasticComment
You are so right. It is an either or with NO room for common sense decency.
Treybetrey
ShlongaDonga
False equivalency.
Logwarrior999
Your knowledge of how people lived throughout history is warped.
bekind2joeblake
Ok... I guess they were often killed for speaking out. I mean, this still happens today so... what’s warped?
SarcasticComment
Even if this is true. How is getting caught in a fake news stories a positive to the cause? If anything it feeds opposition.
IWasToldThereWasCake
Catitapillar
THAT'S exactly why some people recant even when it IS true. Sometimes being labeled a liar is better than the alternative.
Logwarrior999
Can you name any examples? Or are you just pulling this out of your ass?
BaconRaptor
MidnightBreakfastClub
Look no further than soccer.
Irishda
Yeah victims of racism get TONS of money
HiddenSanity
This is not new, framing others is all throughout history, we know of historical lynch mobs started by false criminal charges. Periods of-->
HiddenSanity
-history where people were made out to be witches or whatnot on the regular. During the Red scare some people lost their jobs over --->
HiddenSanity
-accusations of communism with flimsy support, sometimes staying unemployed even once their name was cleared, etc.
Logwarrior999
Similar to how people are smeared as fascists now.
GinoTheIntern
Like who?
HiddenSanity
There's really not that many people getting fired over accusations of fascism?
AtsaMattaForMe
bunwiggle
TroyLoModel
It’s trend.
Ahridan
#JusticeforJuicy
Saitama2019
Dave served justice
getotterhere
What happen?
bettywales
Dave Chapelle Netflix special. Check it out--this part is near the end.
gynonurseifixyourladybits
Juicy
kkanne20
smooyay
magoichi75
Pray for the French actor.
DancingDoggo
Smoliet
CafeNervosa
Juicy Smolié
LarfleezePlz
FsImgur
I thought he was saying "Sommelier" - which is the guy who recommends wine at restaurants.
CafeNervosa
That could be the case. I just wrote what I though I heard.
flyingmonkeystick
I don’t get the reference. Could you explain?
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
https://youtu.be/wZXoErL2124
Fredacar
Faked a hate crime and didn't get in trouble for it. Jussy Smollet, I think is his name
FsImgur
Watch Dave Chapelle's latest comedy special on Netflix. It's a bit he does the about Jussie Smollet https://youtu.be/wZXoErL2124
Delightfoot
Sticks and stones by Dave Chapelle. One of his best stand ups I’ve ever seen!!
LtMuffintoes
Ah so this is why liberals hate it so much
HyunJ00n
Jussie Smollet(pic) faked a hate crime, Dave Chappelle disowns him and refers to him as french, a play on his pronunciation. jussie = juicy
TrumpIsAFelon
More like setting up a slander defense ahead of time. Smart!
JesusShaves
What a fuckwad!
unlimited38
And let's look at how he got punished. Oh wait...
KissMikeLitorusSheSaid
Typical Chicago justice.
jaboiLD
*typical rich people justice
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
Is the verdict in for his crimes, or are they still "investigating"?
unlimited38
My understanding is that the DA decided not to pursue charges. Overwhelming proof he committed crimes was just pushed aside.
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
Isn't there an investigation going on into the fucked up process by which jussie was let go?
6Oh4
Yes.
care4canines
He is being sued for the costs of the investigation. About $130,000.
unlimited38
Still not justice. He did irreparable harm to actual victims of hate crimes. Can't say I'm surprised though.
ArmoredGod
Juicy Smullay
capnsebastian
fucking actors from france
accountsuccessione
Anakindergarden
This bit is so brilliant. "A tweet from one of you guys could send me to court. Let's adress how fucking weird audiences are now!"
Douk1
First part should be made into an upvote gif... I've not the talent for this though
Douk1
Maybe even upvote and favorite
mcd177
That was brilliant.
gynonurseifixyourladybits
His stand up ALWAYS has elements of truth. And he delivers it so well.
ThatWeirdNorsePagan
Juicy Smooyay
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
thenetvines
Poor guy; it's just so much pressure to be an actor in a first world country, we should give him more money, more money we should give them
WhereIsWillByers
Gotta love those downvotes. Amazing isn't it?
BeinrichBimmler
EvilE512
You went to subway...SANDWICHES!!??
SixFeetShort
Is that the French actor?
MrKibbs
I live under a rock. Who is that and what did he do/not do?
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
D list celebrity hired guys to beat him up and claim he was attacked by racists. Got caught, nothing happened
LtMuffintoes
Tried to start race war
caveman0lawyer
The fact that he got away with what he did is ridiculous.
Donku83
Juicy Smoyay
PeterOlintoowesmeacoffee
She’ll probably be kicked out of the school. Then there’s always the filing a false report charges. Did they release the names of the kids?
jonestown
If she gets kicked out of school, the parents will sue. Guaranteed.
ItsGeno
chad, brad, and Thad
LivelyRequiem
She's 12...
LooseSeall
Yes, old enough to understand that her actions are criminal. I was a high school freshman when I was 12
Wherethefackaretheirchins
How? Were you gifted and skipped a few grades? 12 yr olds are 6th/7th grade.
LooseSeall
I was in a private school until either 8th grade or freshman year. When I moved to public the district gave my parents the option to let me
LooseSeall
continue or to hold me back to be with a closer age group, but they chose to let me continue
WookieWookieWookie
She's in a private school. She can be kicked out. Obviously she still gets to go to a public school though.
LupusLilium
Age allows someone to get away with nearly forcing other students the same fate?
bobziIIa
Yeah. So does insanity.
Zigor22
She should get the same amount of negative media coverage as the kid who was “mocking” the Indian drummer guy. But the media is biased.
grandpasonlylivingheir
Social media is biased.
aselleus
I'm guessing since they're minors, no
ridge
This is America, our media is not bound by morals
iamthisguy247
I guess she’ll dread the decision she made.
UnluckyScarecrow
I guess she's lucky she didn't get locked up?
MrShpoople
I think that's a lock
hipshopbutcanthap
*snort*
LittleBitz
TwoBadMiloshDead
YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
diggetydug
Ayyyyyy
Panserclaw
KimSupreme7
HamishHamilton0
Creepy Joe sees an 11-yr-old girl...
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WellThatDidntTakeLong
As they should.
Erutanmi
And claim that it’s racially aggravated.
WellThatDidntTakeLong
Well, it is.
ferex
Wait, you mean crimes based on race go both ways?!
WellThatDidntTakeLong
Shocker
Erutanmi
Yes, it would be if our info is correct AND the girl lied BECAUSE they are white. That’s why I say “claim.”
Erutanmi
Read both perspectives, it’s not always a yes or no. I tried to properly order my comments to cover both perspectives, but it’s hard to do.
Erutanmi
No, it wouldn’t be even if the info is correct, but the intent wasn’t correlated to race. Maybe the boys bullied? Maybe any kid is a jerk?
Erutanmi
Read both perspectives, it’s not always a yes or no. I tried to properly order my comments to cover both perspectives, but it’s hard to do.
WellThatDidntTakeLong
So bullying her gives her justification to make false accusations against them? Sounds like some incel logic. "that girl wouldn't date me 1
eyeLied
If what info is correct? That a BLACK girl claimed three WHITE guys cut off her dreadlocks, called her "nappy headed", among other things 1/
ProfessorAssBlast2020
Thats exactly what I would do, fuck those idiots
optimisticredshirt
Parents are not liable for tort claims against their kids... Also defamation requires there to be damages----not likely there were.
optimisticredshirt
Literally why tf are people downvoting this? I am straight up telling you how the law works.
BibbityBobbityBobert
Because IT DOESNT FIT WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!
mclarenf1buff
Bring an IIED claim as well.
distainv
There is a reason there are YouTube channels with hoax hate crime of the week segments
Seanspeed
Yea, they're garbage 'content creators' who seek to undermine legitimate systemic issues in the country.
distainv
No the ones undermining shit are the ones like this piece of garbage they are the ones that leave make people not listen when shit is real
Seanspeed
Yes, they are a huge problem. But you're a great example of using them as a way to cast doubt on all other legit situations.
imgurisgo
I hear how rare it is weekly.
igec
PiggyWobbles
Same reason fox publishes every vicious crime a black or immigrant person commits? Or how every police shooting is publicized 500x?
V1K1NGFVNERAL
I believe it was Breitbart that literally had a "black crime" article category or tag.
PiggyWobbles
I'm surprised they resisted the temptation to call it "thug crimes of the week"
Sandyundertones
Police shootings are different since the represent potential abuse by the State. The total number is irrelevant.
DontTalkToMeOrMyWaifuEverAgain
It's pretty relevant when it causes distrust in the PD when its statistically a rare occurrence
Sandyundertones
That is why even rare incidents of abuse by the State are still a serious problem
Sandyundertones
If a cop abuses their power and the State refuses to penalize that cop, the incident is reflective of abuse by the State.
Sandyundertones
If an immigrant murders someone, it is never a reflection of all immigrants.
Logwarrior999
There aren't enough hours a day for Fox to do that.
CatatonicCowMoo
Police shooting which direction?
PiggyWobbles
I'm thinking "anytime a cop shoots a guy its all over the news because its a partisan hot button culture war issue that gets clicks"
CatatonicCowMoo
Okay see I didnt know if you meant cop shoots guy or guy shoots cop. Thanks for clearing that up.
TheIrish0ne
Right, I don’t follow the point they are trying to make.
PiggyWobbles
that a media companies will take advantage of hot button cultural issues and push them for clicks and attention?
V1K1NGFVNERAL
Yup. Because confirmation bias loves them anecdotes. In the world of statistics, hoaxes make up a pretty small percent of hate crimes.
Asteroidrules
Hey, facts aren't allowed in this circlejerk.
SharkFrend
Dont know why you're being downvoted so hard, you're objectively right. https://www.hsdl.org/c/just-released-report-to-the-nation-on-hate-an
Logwarrior999
The report you cite is based on hate crimes reported. Last year one jewish kid managed to raise the Hate Crimes against jews by 16%
SawhorseJackson
Pay attention kids, because this is what it looks like when you’re totally missing the point. Think, then speak.
AnIrishGuy
The fact there’s enough to fill a weekly segment should be of concern, regardless
Sandyundertones
There are 330 million people in the U.S. alone, 52 incidents isn't too surprising
MikaMox
If only there were just 52 incidents of race related hate crimes
Sandyundertones
Even if it were triple that, it would still be infrequent and less than two percent of all hate crimes
Logwarrior999
Out of curiosity, which demographic do you believe commits the most hate crimes per capita? Which demo has the highest % in Supremacist orgs
Residentsmartass
How is it confirmation bias to say they exist and show proof they do? No says there all false claims just that they exist.
crazyanimal2534
If you search for validity of a claim, especially on the web, you tend to find it.
Irishda
And yet look at all the comments talking about how fake they all are...
V1K1NGFVNERAL
And there it is.
V1K1NGFVNERAL
Because that's not the message. The message is, doubt all of them.
Lynkfox
No, he message should be to punish those that are proven false. Trust, but verify.
AnAccountToPostThis
Yes. Innocent until proven guilty. Are you new to western society?
Residentsmartass
Yes. We sould doubt everyone. Innocent until proven guilty. Innocent until proven guilty.
V1K1NGFVNERAL
I'm really tired of this circular reasoning. It's like going to the cops to report a crime, and they refuse to investigate because...
Residentsmartass
We literally have groups helping people get off death row because of mistakes. Everyone deserves the presumption of innocence.
Residentsmartass
*should
buttbuttpartywagon
No the message isnt to doubt all of them, it's to scrutinize so that you're not sending innocent people to the wolves
SneakyEmu2
I mean.. do I have confirmation bias that gravity exists?
TheIrish0ne
Well you’re only looking at the stuff falling, there’s so much stuff floating away but you’re too (insert buzz word here) to see!
iHaveNoMouthAndIMustMeme
Ah, you're one of those "well I'm still gonna go ahead and be angry because the story could've been true".
Uberdude100
That's fucked up and all, but she's a 12 yo highschooler?
dfnkt
The lord works in mysterious ways.
FireCannons
So
Ilovestormswolvesbees
She’s a young high schooler..
DangerousNoodle
That's really young. She doesn't look like she can handle graduating at 15. I'm going to assume it's a middle/high combined.
HaniiPuppy
12 is the normal age for the first year of highschool in the UK.
HamishHamilton0
11, even!
sovietracism
My freshman year i was 12. Turned 13 in October
catsandcoke
Private school. They may start in 8th grade. I was 12 and turned 13.
EMTsaidwhat
Doesn't matter. They need the consequences of the action, because the behavior need to be understood as abhorrent
OxyEmphasisontheMoron
Are we sure it doesnt mean 12th grade?
Howdoilife
When I was in high school I saw a girl bring a wrench to school and beat another girls ass. Looks like school is getting gentler.
JPRedonky
I go to a school owned by UF that’s 1-12
DeathAnGravity
Why is this national news?
MooyahCop
Because the media made it national news days ago when they thought the attack was real...
asmpsUnityDog
They learn young nowadays. Plenty of examples on tv & social media
Grillparzer
Sixth grade.
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HsuDoNihm
*schools
Feralkyn
Not sure who downvoted you, "Christian school's are..." doesn't reflect well on said schools lol.
HsuDoNihm
The funny bit is that I attended two of those tiny church schools. I didn't learn grammar there, though; that was later in public school.
Feralkyn
Oof RIP
CharlesMcCoy
Mine went pre-k through 12. I went all fourteen years to the same school. We had the four year olds on the same level as the seniors as well
NinjaCongo
Exactly. It's a 12 yo girl who made something up, prolly cut her hair and then didn't want her mom to find out. Let's all chillax a bit.
Nutinbutbootson
Probably right. Her g'ma noticed some dreads missing and asked her. That's when she told the story. She didnt say anything before that.
NinjaCongo
And a big juicy FUCK YOU goes out to that rag the Daily Mail for publishing pic & name of a child over a bullshit thing like this.
NoSirThatIsBaldrickSpringCleaning
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted (well I can guess) but the media fucking def has a lot of responsibility here, bunch of zombies.
NinjaCongo
I'm being downvoted by people who want to feel righteously upset about something. There's a reason the Daily Mail sells.
NinjaCongo
Oh and @OP, you genuinely upset over a lying 12 yo or are you just point whoring? Either way, pretty sad. It's a child.
itsNotAphaseMomThisIsMyLifeNow
I’m upset because ppl think it’s ok to lie about this kinda shit. Apparently, you do too. Shame on you.
NinjaCongo
Lol. Yeah I think children lie about stupid shit. You ever lie about anything as a kid?
NoSirThatIsBaldrickSpringCleaning
No one anywhere thinks it’s ok to lie about this kinda thing you donkey. Just have some perspective about the situation.
MrShpoople
her accusations were all over the national news. Presented as true. She's the one who went to the press, saying how terrified she was...1
MrShpoople
But also presenting herself as feeling sorry for the boys. Now that we know she's a liar should we ignore it?
NoSirThatIsBaldrickSpringCleaning
Not ignore it at all, but also just see it for what it is, a 12 yo being a moron and the media vampires glomming onto a provocative story.
MrShpoople
I think it was more than just being a moron, I think it was being malicious. She could have ruined those boys lives.
ellyllon
Is that a question?
DangerousNoodle
Yes. 12 is middle school age in the U.S., not high school.
DangerousNoodle
However, I'd just assume it's a middle and high school combined.
ellyllon
Ah, I see. Thanks. I misunderstood the point.
Trielumphant
Grade 8 is high school; and if her birthday is btw sept and dec, she'll be 12 for part of it.
WellThatDidntTakeLong
Not everywhere. 8 is middle school here.
Gvegasnachos
9th is high school here
DangerousNoodle
Not everywhere it is. 9th is high school here. However, some schools combine middle/high if they're small enough. Mine did.
DangerousNoodle
It's more than likely a combined school because she's gonna have a hard time graduating at 15/16.
leodavinci1
My small town schools were 1-8 grade school and 9-12 high school. When town grew, it became 1-6 grade school, 1 of 2
leodavinci1
7-9 junior high, and 10-12 high school. 2 of 2
BuzzKiIlington
Also apparently the high school has a playground??
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
Small town private school, likely grades 5-12. Good chance the k-5 school is on the same xx acre property
iputnutinnutella
It's not that uncommon actually.
HaniiPuppy
Your highschool didn't?
Leithoa
No. Just a bit of outdoor seating. Both are common tho
CaptainPawfulFox
My public elementary school had two. The school yard was pretty big.
jedionslaught
But for highschool students?
CaptainPawfulFox
No, we didn't have one for highschool students. Those weren't allowed at my elementary school.
Vencakes
My private school officially stopped going outside for recess after 6th grade, but the game room opened during lunch time for 7th+ graders.
Sugarcrotch
my highschools playground was the parking lot across the street from campus or my pot dealers house. he had a ps2 and a n64.
LoadedBakedPotatoes
That’s a lot of information.
Sugarcrotch
it was a great playground. but the campus security didnt like people going there idk why
TheMershedPerderder
If she can lie, she can learn the consequences of her own actions.
DangerousNoodle
I'm going to assume it's a middle/high school combined. My school was like that.
poot85
Yeah!! Trashy people the OP says. It's a child
wtfiamfake
She is a 6th grader.
2graves
I skipped a grade or so. It's not unusual
dylanamanhouilhan
Some jurisdictions dont do middle school. 7th grade is highschool
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
Smaller towns have high schools that run grades 6-12
PenisOfDeath
I was in a school *kinda* like that. Middle and high school where separate entities but in the same building.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Not just smaller towns. There is/was a high school in Nashville that has 7-12. At least it used to, dunno if they changed it since then.
TheYoungerChrisEvans
Those are usually listed as comprehensive schools, instead of high schools. At least in my state
Dondarian
Yep. Mine was 7-12 in the same building in Utah. My dad taught at a school in Idaho that was k-12 in one building!
arkjk69
Not a small town a small private school. Springfield va is ok size population wise
Lynith
I live in the area.... trust me, it's ANYTHING but small town.
RyanSnead
She lives in a large suburb of DC
Jacob12jr
Especially private Christian schools
Uberdude100
Interesting. Im from a tiny town that had a k-8 but our high school was separate.
SusanGoGetMyPants
Ours is K-12. K-6 stay in their classroom the majority of the time though.
SlicedBr3ad
We were k-6 individual towns then 7-12/senior but 7&8 were "separate" but in the same building for 5 towns. Small towns in VT
liltortatree
Private most likely, my sister goes to a private school that is kindergarten to 12 grade, they are separated buildings but same property
DangerousNoodle
I'm from a tiny town that had 6-12, but k-5 was still elementary school.
thebeardofzeu5
Mine was K-4, 5-8 and then 9-12
TheUpdootist
I would take this with a grain of salt. She should be punished but also she's twelve. Unless it's a pattern let's not crucify the child
cargo305
Like the boys from Covington?
WellThatDidntTakeLong
She needs to learn early that shit type of fuckery is not ok. Too many Innocents get crucified, it's time to come down hard on this shit.
CuteLittleKittenHugz
At that age it is likely her parents that need to learn the lesson first.
TheUpdootist
Is it too many? Have you compared available data? What does coming down hard look like and how will it cause other children to think twice?
sarcasmandcynicism
But if there isnt a pattern of this type of action, it may have been coersion.
WellThatDidntTakeLong
The reason is irrelevant. The fact is that she did it.
sarcasmandcynicism
What I meant was that she may have been telling the truth but then pressured into claiming she lied. I dont know enough about this 1/2
wiilyc22
True, however look at the outrage regarding the 3 boys. Responsibility and accountability are required. Can’t just say, “ah she’s 12”.
AFrogNamedClyde
So take her seriously when she accuses people but don't when its a lie because she is twelve?
TheUpdootist
Any accusation should be taken seriously until it shouldn't be anymore. People who falsely accuse should be punished based on the crime and
Lynith
Guilty until proven innocent? What country are you in?
TheUpdootist
Any other accentuating factors. This works is grey. Stop trying to view it like it's black and white.
AFrogNamedClyde
Their lives would have been ruined if she never confessed. I don't know what I would have done if I was one of them.
MrShpoople
If her accusations were true, would you say the same thing about the boys? She should get whatever they would have gotten.
Akyan
She doesn't need to go to jail, but her accusations did fuck up the other kid's life, so she shouldn't get off with a slap on the wrist.
Genini
If their names weren't released (which they shouldn't as minors) then their life wasn't all that fucked up.
smorsdoeuvres
Sounds like you know all about this. How were their lives ruined? Shaped, surely, but ruined? They are 12. Was anyone actually assaulted?
TheUpdootist
That headline is going to be far more punishment for get then any legal punishment. This will follow her. It's done.
Lynith
The punishment for her should be equal to the suggested punishment towards those wrongfully accused.
Wanderer56
Crucifixion... greath advise, that should teach the other To not do this for generation to come. Also keep her bone in the Bird cage.
SwilcO
The accusation got all kinds of hype (and accompanying outrage). This revelation needs the same level of information spread.
thehumanoidsarecoming
once again showing the real problem in this country are average adults aching for anger bait
CongratsYouAreHereNow
Yes, spread the fact she was full of shit, address the issue that being a victim has now been corrupted and their is status gained from it,
CongratsYouAreHereNow
but keep her name and image out of the public eye
KootchieKoo
Spread the info, but calling a 12 yo trash? She needs to be punished, heavily, but ppl are trashing this CHILD as an adult. Kids are stupid.
BigGip
But let's make sure to use this as an example to discourage it from happening again, and to make sure the accuser ...
thehumanoidsarecoming
right, she's being held up as "an example". Not being fed to a hungry mob as entertainment
GothKirby
Idk. She was fully prepared to have three innocent boys crucified for racially aggravated crimes they didn’t commit.
smorsdoeuvres
This statement seems to assume most kids are known for great decision making.
Leithoa
So was the school. The system that destroyed the accused before investigating are the worst part.she fucked up but we shouldn't ruin her >
BelleofdaBall
Had the story been true would you have extended the same courtesy to the boys? I'd guess not.
Leithoa
You'd guess wrong.
Leithoa
2)academic / real life. That will just ensure she never makes anything of herself.
ZuluQueenOfTheDwarfPeople
She was willing to fuck up others academic/real life. Why should she get a free pass? She knew better and she knew what she was doing.
smorsdoeuvres
Does she Actually Understand what that Means? What the ramifications Could be? Most kids wouldnt. Frontal lobe hasn’t developed enough yet.
GothKirby
From a legal standpoint yes. I’m not sure on the specific age for the state this happened in, but in the UK children from 10 onwards are 1/2
GothKirby
Held responsible for their actions - including false allegations - as an adult would be. 2/2
BigGip
Agreed. Let's also consider the reason why she did this and address that. Behavior right or wrong is for a purpose.
BigGip
... does not get trapped in a downward cycle of escalating behavior.
Nutinbutbootson
I agree with you. She said the boys called her ugly and her hair nappy. This behavior has deeper roots, and she needs help. 1/2
Nutinbutbootson
Her g'parents said they are ready to accept the consequences. It'll take a long time to recover from this on both sides. Cant imagine...
buddbilly
I hope that the consequences are double for her that the boys would have received.
LukeDabWalker
Why not just make them the same consequences ? This isn’t one of those cases where the person is held to a higher standard.
Galdrack
You think lying about a crime is worse than committing one?
MeatPosicleIsDead
Don't forget to multiply them by 3. She tried to drag 3 of them into her stupidity. I am rooting for 6x punishment.
OrlyOwlisSkeptical
Don't forget we are talking about a 12 year old here.
Cheomesh
You know why they're getting vicious.
NotAnIroningBoard
Would you be willing to adjust the sentence of the boys she claimed did it if they were 12? She almost ruined 3 bloody lives.
OrlyOwlisSkeptical
It's a mess for sure.
MeatPosicleIsDead
So 6x the community service / detention. I'm sure the punishment scales with the age.
OrlyOwlisSkeptical
So what would a 30 year old get?
MeatPosicleIsDead
30/yo detention? Dude I am here to laugh and make snarky comments. Not really harnessing the critical though process part of the old brain