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metatrousers
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug
DespiseEveryone
No fixes for crippling game bugs.
Astrangeimageeveryday
Yea man i miss the good old days when the games lasted an hour with shit gameplay AND they were stored completely on giant inconvenient cart
Astrangeimageeveryday
Ridges
conkles
Let's invent a bomb that doesn't really kill people, it just sends places back to the nineties
BlackTieStraightjack312
AAAAMEN!
xninex
4 player split screen coop and mp
whitewingdevil
You're forgetting the Expansion Pak, which was required to run 3 of the consoles most desirable and well remembered games.
ethentianknight
Exception: http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com/images/1990s/99_N64_DD/64DD-Sys-Gen-02-cr_small.jpg
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
Though you (sometimes) needed a memory card to save your game.
AluminiumFalcon
And then had to switch back and forth between the rumble pack (which weighed 1/2lb.) and the save cartridge.
MightyIink
Hey You, Pikachu! is the only game with a microphone that didn't send "sample submissions" to a company.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
And you had to buy an entirely new console every time you wanted to play a newer game
flassk
"no exceptions" except all those buggy messes and incomplete games out there. it happened more than a couple times.
Grimm7766
Seriously, games were just as buggy then as they are now on average. Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
flassk
it's like people don't know that you can manipulate code through actions throughout the first 2 generations of pokemon because bugs
TheEvenPrez
The problem isn't those things. The problem is how they are used.
afistfulofchickens
Yeah, man - those old graphical constraints were dooooope.
jegred2
Depends on the game, FE: Legend of Zelda a Link to the past has aged very well.
SpecimenSpiff
Yes, SNES games have aged well, but N64 was in kind of an awkward place what with polygons being a new thing.
jegred2
lol, and the N64 controller is garbage for a lot of games if you go back. I only really played star fox 64, goldeneye, and smash bros on it.
Tassyr
And if there was a bug, you had no software patch...
3RsReadingRitingRithmatic
Jesus christ. True crimes streets of NY. Game breaking xbox glitch. I was livid.
Blacole1985
Cartidge... no bugs
RowanUnderwood
If there was a bug, it became part of the gameplay :P
photog
Until they fixed it and released a new version. N64 games has different versions.
LifeInNightVision
Those weren't bugs. Those were Easter eggs just waiting to be discovered and celebrated.
photog
N64 games had patches but they were different releases of the game. OOT has three different versions. The last one Goron as green blood.
frozenphoenix0
The original also had islamic chanting in the fire temple music. and glitch of saving at the end when link didn't have a sword.
devinshidaker
A lot of developers would fix bugs, but the only way to get the fix is to buy the new revision of a game. Most popular games had several.
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
I feel like people who get nostalgic about old consoles forget that when we were younger everything the gaming community has become is what
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
We asked of the industry. We asked for the story to continue. We asked for the ability to connect with our friends across the globe and by
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Always being unsatisfied with things like graphics and bugs had made prices shoot sky high
leedleedleedle
Spot on.
morakdais
Maybe if it was ps1 or ps2, instead of that God awful n64 controller
WhatAboutBobJr
Modern tech has allowed launch to become the new 'alpha' and initial quality has decreased. The better studios still invest in pre-launch QA
Lax44ros
Yea, personally I think that alpha/pre-alpha is worst by far for gaming industry. What did ARK survival with alpha DLC was new kind of low
Zlimeshili
Except it wasnt
991cookie
Friend of mine thinks it won't be long before the end of a storyline on a game will be DLC you have to pay for
fisseconniie
@op the thing your missing ia being a kid....
Edutittam
I know DLC gets a bad rap for sometimes being too expensive for too little. But DLC is a great fucking tool.
HitlersArtCritic
There are some games with over 100 dollars of DLC for a 20 dollar base. Want a few extra guns? 5 bucks here. New map? 10. New character? 10.
Lax44ros
You just have to choose wisely and don't buy every shit. It's customers fault, that those developers can walk all over us.
Bobeez
I find when I do get a chance to re-play those old games, the nostalgia lasts about 20 minutes, then I realize today's games are way better.
RebelPhoenix17
Meanwhile I've legitimately lost count of how many times i've done a 100% run of Super Mario World, Donkey Kong Country, and Super Mario 64.
FreakinSatan
I've put 18 hours into Ogre Battle 64 over the last 3 days. I never even played it as a kid.
Sheex
Easily one of the best RPGs ever made. The gameplay hasn't aged terribly well, but the story is absolutely fantastic.
ultradongle
Fuck you if you own the cart, seriously Fuck you out of nothing but jealousy.
FreakinSatan
Unfortunately not. Just an emulator. :( Great game though.
ultradongle
If you have a GBA emulator get Tactics Ogre. It is an amazing game. A bit repetitive at first but an awesome game.
FreakinSatan
I downloaded it once but never played it. I probably will soon though.
Kompi
Sometimes sure. But I just bought Ape Escape 2 on Ps4, and I'm having a blast. Old games can be lacking but the core gameplay holds true
Inusitus
I want more ape escape in my life. They were all great
Kompi
There are (granted unsubstantial) rumors of Ape Escape 4 being on the drawing board. With the unlikely releases recently, I have hope
SpecimenSpiff
Eh, I understand why you say that, but I don't agree. Although N64 games didn't age very well in particular.
angrybook
N64 utilized screen blur, which worked really well on old CRT's. It doesn't look so good on modern televisions.
CometLaHal
idk if the average game today is better. what with so many shitty stories and somehow managing repetitive/boring gameplay with these 1/
CometLaHal
advances in design software/hardware. Not to mention you're fucked by every other game if you dont dole out for dlc
ultradongle
Dude, Witcher 3. Just finished the Hearts of Stone DLC, it felt more like an old school "Expansion Pack". Amazing story, 20+ hours gameplay
V3role
It's amazing to see a dev so (rightly) confident in its relation with customers it doesn't even bother protecting its game against piracy.
CometLaHal
witcher 3 is an exception with todays games and you know it. certainly not an accurate example
Zaayl
Play better games. Reviews both professional and user generated, gameplay videos, etc. All more accessible today than they ever were.
V3role
1True but marketing dept are wealthier than ever and know most gamers won't vote with their wallet but buy anything that's been hyped enough
Zaayl
But on a individual level it isn't a excuse to not to be a educated consumer and use those tools. Never buy the hype.
V3role
2.DLC, microtransaction, etc, why change? They'll buy. We do have a shitload of great indies and devs like ProjektRed though.
WhitePhoenix
Depends on the game. Everyone had nostalgia for Mega Man 2, for example, but I NEVER played it when I was a kid in the 90s. I only 1/2
FermentedCrabSmuggler
Mario Kart 64
jegred2
I agree, some games age well, others not so much.
WhitePhoenix
started playing it a few years ago on emulator and now it's one of my absolute favorite games. Good games stand the test of time. 2/2
AtomicPotato7
So do good Civilisations
CuteThingsAreMyWeakness
Same with me and Chrono trigger, link to the past, and a few other games. Some games age really well!
Rimmers0a0smeghead
I replay Chrono Trigger all the way through, once a year
ultradongle
I play through Chrono Trigger, Legend of Zelda, and Link to the past at least once a year.
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Sidewaysgts
And games were shipped with game breaking bugs which were never fixed
MightyIink
Pokemon Stadium with Transfer PAK was your Pokemon Bank without a subscription...
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
Okay. I'm gonna keep playing Dragon Age while you stick to the past.
MarTheKhorvaireSquirrelMaster
Games need to be completed before they're released. Just like Superman 64
Rifneno
Yeah, it was awesome when Nintendo raped everyone on cartridge license fees so games in 1996 cost more than games now, and it was awesome
MikiesUsername
Taking nostalgia out of the equation, games spent longer in QA and typically didn't have game-breaking glitches bc they couldn't be patched
MikiesUsername
And today you end up with day one patches before you can even play, and even then it still sometimes feels like you're playing an alpha.
ColonelColon
I mean there's a difference between shit game companies and good ones.
MikiesUsername
Ubisoft, Activision, EA, Rocksteady, and Rockstar all had shitty launches in the past few years. They're on average considered pretty grea
ColonelColon
Those have usually been considered among the worst in game companies. Not necessarily releasing bad games, but in having stupid bullshit.
Grimm7766
On average that is pretty false. Final Fantasy 6 is just one of many beautiful examples of a programming miracle of brokenness.
MikiesUsername
There are a few examples of broken games in every gen, great n64 example is Superman 64. Terrible broken game. But on average, they're the
MikiesUsername
Exception whereas now, it's just become the rule. You can't play a new game without downloading a patch. That doesn't make sense to me.
Grimm7766
I don't think you understand how many games in older gens had hilarious glitches/bugs that would have had to have been patched out today 1/2
Grimm7766
So many more, lesser known games had programming oversights. Just because you don't remember them, doesn't mean they didn't exist. 3/3
Grimm7766
FF6 is just one small example in a sea of bad/questionable programming. Every megaman game, every NES/SNES FF, several Mario games, and 2/3
Rifneno
how glitches at released were never fixed because you can't patch a cartridge and there's no internet. These things definitely don't eat
photog
OOT has 3 different versions. They did patch games. You couldn't personally patch a game but they did release newer versions.
Rifneno
shit, gaming sucks now, you're totally and right and not blinded by idiotic nostalgia!
thesolamnus
Thank you
mephistophelesjanx
ACondomFullOfBees
Game Shark for life
THExPILLOx
Muthafuckin headshot right there
Moosenuggs
Best DLC i ever paid for
WhitePhoenix
Hardware DLC.
krapmyself
Let's not forget the rumble pack
feelthebern2k16
Fuckn rumble packs man
MrMince
They were the shit
MikiesUsername
The first game to require it offered it free. (DK64)
ethentianknight
I'll raise you one: http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com/images/1990s/99_N64_DD/64DD-Sys-Gen-02-cr_small.jpg
KiyaSeraphia
I mean, technically that is a kind of cartridge, right?
DocVolt
What is that
AluminiumFalcon
RAM for your N64
RedPipe
An age test
TheDoctorAzAJ
And he failed. "Kids these days"
momoneymopain
Upvoted to 420. You're welcome. Also. Blaze it.
PhilTheGoron
Oinko
Hey, Nintendo had add ons to most of their products.
eaglejdc
LittleLordThudleroy
Rarely used, and mostly by Rare.
BlakeShady
Fuckin' DK64
chickenhawk713
Starcraft 64 to play the brood war expansion.
balmut
I forget which it was, but one game only needed it because of a programming error the dev's couldn't figure out.
BenPacha
I believe it was Donkey Kong 64, which is why it came with the game.
SkwisgaarSkwigelfTallerThanATree
That's correct and why I ever had it myself.
LittleLordThudleroy
Huh, maybe thats why i have it. I remember being pissed when the upgrade was introduced. It kinda goes against the whole point of consoles
DocVolt
Source?
balmut
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/donkey_kong_64_required_expansion_pak_to_prevent_game_breaking_bug
DocVolt
Fascinating. Thank you!
Mohead12
bro
imjusthereforthemoneynotyourbs
One of.the spiderman games said it needed it.
JedwardKhil
Guess you could say it was RARELY used!
WhitePhoenix
Re-Volt used it... game looked like absolute garbage without it.
MrWolfwood
loads of games required it, it was used, a lot.
V3role
Bought it for Perfect Dark, no regrets were had.
KingOfTheROMs
That game was awesome. I still have my 64 (with the expansion pack thing). I need to buy that game.
THExPILLOx
Majora's mask required it, didn't it?
DeadHamster
Perfect Dark
shokomann
Mhhhh
MonsieurLeMoustache
and Turok 2
LucidPariah
Oh that game was awesome! Absolutely loved the multiplayer!
Zap117
Donkey Kong
RSP16
At least the first run of carts had that as a pack-in.
roamer145
Only because the developers noticed it crashed without it.
flassk
star wars podracer used it, but didn't require it. looked way better though.
LittleLordThudleroy
Yep
GRA2itous
And that's why I was never able to play it.
CRUSTYSMEGMA
Fucking amen
ThatRaccoonGuy
You go ahead with that. I think gaming is better than it has ever been before.
macca3568
Yes definitely, but I am pretty jacked of shit loads of overpriced DLC's
MandaloreWarlord
Oh sure kid jus like when I rented Battleborn from RedBox.. update required = 26 hours. I'm like WTF???! Cash me on da side hoes bout dat
jegred2
I really like SNES games art style the best.
dbba
I agree, but I can certainly sympathise with mourning the loss of simpler times
Zaayl
Unless you were a PC gamer and had to deal with extremely convoluted copy-protection that included shit like decoder wheels.
SpecimenSpiff
Haha, almost forgot about that.
smaug777000
I can't figure out how to get voice chat to work on xbox one outside of party groups and it's infuriating me, but GOW4 is awesome
Nihelus
What? You talk into your mic. That's literally it. If nobody talks back nobody else on your team is using a mic.
smaug777000
I don't see the sound icon next to my name but I see it next to others
smaug777000
maybe my settings are off or something
MindOfMobius
microtransactions is a highlight?
GTXM
Overpriced DLC? Microtransactions? Get rid of those, and yes, gaming today is amazing.
AnRatDragon
True dat. I loved me some Goldeneye and Shareware DooM, but we've accomplished a lot since then
WhitePhoenix
In some aspects it is, in some aspects it isn't. With the bad that @OP is 100% correct about, come the good - multiplayer with people 1/2
WhitePhoenix
across the world, the ability to have a gigantic game library without needing physical space, easier porting of console games to pc, etc 2/2
V3role
Games-wise, agreed. But when it comes to anti-consumer practices coming from the industry he's got a point.
Rifneno
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/1fwab6/why_did_n64_games_cost_so_much_back_in_the_day/ Ill take EA having my email over this shit
ElPoloDiablo
Oh look, turns out Nintendo was always kind of a shitty company, not just today. (Nothing against their games, but they're kind of dickwads)
V3role
Still better than cutting content and using it as pre-order bonus DLC.
Rifneno
Let me guess, you also go into Trump threads and go, "hurr hur ITS BETTER THAN SHILLARY" right?
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
Trump and Hillary are both bought and paid for by the rich. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
V3role
Nope. More convenient services now are not an excuse. Shitty practices need to be called out on by the customers, true then still true now.
RaynArclk
Oh yeah. Remember that game ending glitch? Oh wait it got patched out. New chars? More story? Fuck that. I want n64 and stewerdesses back
bumholiday
It is! But it's also the worst it's ever been. It's a mgaical time
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
We have more than we ever imagined would be. I think so much has come out in such little time it's impossible to enjoy it all now
ParanoidWithGoodCause
having to pay for the storefront as well as the DLC is great, we all love "gaming" where the only interactivity is entering credit card info
ThatRaccoonGuy
Then stop buying those kinds of games, dipshit.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
hey I just agreeing with you that broken always-online shovelware that you have to pay for twice is "the best gaming has ever been"
THExPILLOx
You obviously don't remember buying broken games that couldn't be patched or fixed.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
no I don't, maby because I deliberately avoided those except now they are every single title rather than just a few.
zenatsu
No there were a lot of shit titles back in the day. You just never hear about them today.
ThatRaccoonGuy
He's into alternative facts. Don't bother to argue. :)
THExPILLOx
So in other words you are touting old games while having only played a small fraction?
ParanoidWithGoodCause
I deliberate chose only the good ones as I would today IF THERE WERE ANY. which is the point all of them are released in an unplayable state
Misslnformation
Spoken like someone who didn't start gaming til the late aughts.
Rifneno
I started with the NES. He's 100% right, you and OP are blinded by nostalgic idiocy.
sunyudai
See, the thing is, all of those old games are still there, and still playable.
Misslnformation
Ya but being able to play a 20 year old game is nothing compared to having your mind blown by it. Bomberman, RE1, Telken, there are reasons
sunyudai
It doesn't have to be pretty to blow your mind. And not everybody has fallen into DLC hell. Check out Crashlands, for example.
sunyudai
(Disclaimer, I know two of he creators of Crashlands. Backstory on why they made that game is amazing.)
Misslnformation
Never played Crashlands but i don't doubt you. I'm not even saying DLC is hell, just that DLC has simply made a gaming experience that you
Misslnformation
these games are continuously being remade and gamers are asking for revamped versions w the same storyline. I'm not saying there aren't
Misslnformation
1 or two great games out today, but back when you only had one shot to put out a classic, that's when they focuses on quality and plot, not