Jan 6, 2013 11:38 PM
bellajynx
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ThisIsMcMadness
They are the collateral damage of hate.
ortund
Westboro at it again are they?
Ranier
Kim Jong-un needs to nuke the WBC. Then the US should send him a thank you note. People like that represent just how low humans can be.
Heimlich
+100 for Louis Theroux. The man is awesome
Esko
Proof that hate is taught. Hope I see the day when people just love and accept all other people.
digitalvoid
So heartbreaking. This girl (and all children) are filled with so much innocence until these maniacs teach them hate and intolerance.
Slackjaw
A child should be taught to respect the world and those around them - to teach a child to hate something they don't understand is abhorrent.
Exactly.
SunnyInPhiladelphia
This makes me sad =[
W0lfgang
sonead
Louis Theroux is fantastic.
FrancieHanan11
well, on reddit such comments are considered poor etiquette as they don't actually contribute anything to the discussion.
Not even understanding how anyone can downvote, other than the fact that it upsets them so much they can't feedback with anything positive
mezzidriel
“Racism isn't born, folks, it's taught. I have a two-year-old son. You know what he hates? Naps! End of list.” - Dennis Leary
IAmAdolfHitlerCommanderoftheThirdReich
Ethnocentrism actually is inherent, so.
DamageContrl
BBC docu- "The Most Hated Family in America" I watched this to write a 2 page paper...it ended up being 4 pages because I went on a rant.
DwayneTheRockTheToothfairyJohnson
when that guy throws trash from his car and hits one of the little kids, its absolutely heart breaking
AshleyCFilms
Louis Theroux is one of the best documentary filmmakers. He asks the right questions.
Zugoola
if somebody tried to take me away from my family when i was 17 that person would die..
ShatnersBassoon
YES. MORE LOUIS THEROUX PEOPLE.
BiotSavart
Parenting. You're bad at it.
KamikazeKite
Was greeted by Jehovah at my home some time ago and the lady had her daughter with her. using her as a shield so she could be pushy:( uncool
rpm1984
"No chance poopy pants" That's a quote from that doc
Is there a link to it online by any chance?
I wish I knew the time (all I remember is that it's when he is in the van with one of the daughters, an adult). He asked something like(1/2
...something like "are you likely to change your mind about these people" when they were on the way to or back from a funeral protest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticxD0GfewA&playnext=1&list=PL22AC029667CBD5E1 (part 1/4)
th3thomas
this made me watch every video of the documentary. there really is much more to be said.
Any chance you can provide links?
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8BB4ED7ACC5E4763 they are all in that playlist
IWillStealYourPenIfItWritesNice
Louis Theroux... amazing man. He deals with crazy people so well. Great documentaries.
DrendDragonspawn
I learned just fine. I'm no longer there.
derpwagon
I too hate fags. Individual sticks are much more useful. Who bundles things anymore anyway?
DalekCommander
TV / phone / Internet Service providers? >_>
loungeking1
FUCK THE WBC
MoreThanAPerfunctoryHello
This is how religion works too. Get them while they're young before their critical thinking skills sets in! Hurry!
GaranimalPlanet
This is how bigotry works too. Condemn everyone unlike you by using a few idiots as an excuse. Hurry!
This is how irony works. When you can't see that by complaining about something, you're showing yourself to be an example of it...
... ouch. Lesson learned. *Hurries to apply cold water to burns*
GothicRose88
As a Catholic, my kids will have a choice.
Excellent. :)
So if your kids were to become Satanists? You'd be cool with that?
If that was what they wanted. I would try to discourage them from it but it is their life ultimately.
As long as they turn out to become good people that's all that matters in the end.
ahcnp2
Know what would be worse? If she did know what it meant.
In the new doc the 11 year old boy speaks so hatefully of gay people it's heartbreaking to watch
I've never understood it really. Gay people's choices don't affect my life, so I don't bother about it. Why can't all people do the same...
Yep same, I don't understand
I believe that anyone under 18 in this cult should be taken away for child abuse
lysstrange
Yes.
freeballer
A family that protests together stays together. Besides if were lucky they will get into a bad car accident while taking a family vacation.
peediepixie
Harsh, little kids that don't know what they're protesting about could be hurt then... how is that fair? :3
michaelpw97
You meen over 18?
Well then that's prison, whatever works best.
MyNameIsJeanValjean
Agreed
MorfarErHer
Twofold agreed
captaincabbage
*any cult
just using this one for example.
WalterW
What about that cult known as the Christian Church?
pb1kenobi
This is as stupid as saying all Muslims are terrorists. Would you deny humanity in the name of humanity because you dislike something?
DangerousExpensiveEccentricUnladylike
And the cult of the obsessive atheists? I think that's far more damaging. What makes you right?
AcadianBacon
There's good and bad people in all circles, look up the 'true scotsman' argument, it explains it quite well.
gingerbaconkitty
I was raised by atheist parents, you know how that worked? We just didn't talk about god. The end. I was allowed to go to church when I 1/2
And I was raised by Christian parents, I stopped going to church when I was 12, I started at 20. Some atheists are fine, some Christians too
got curious, and I now have my own opinion, which happens to be the same as my parents', but not because they forced it on me. 2/2
RyoukoSama
If no one ever brought up god, I think Atheists would not bring god up either.
Yes, this will get downvoted on this uber-conservative site. If there was a family that raised their kids to believe in Greek Gods (1/2)
CaptainHanderpants
Claiming a site is conservative is no more credible than saying you're a liberal hippie. Imgur = good cross section of viewpoints.
DapperAlpaca
I don't think "uber-conservative" and supportive of not trying to shame billions of people for their personal beliefs are very comparable.
BillyJoel
You lost me when you called Imgur "uber-conservative"
Everyone would label them a cult, or freaks, but it's perfectly acceptable to teach your kids about magic sky man.
WivesWithKnives
+1 agreed.
I like how someone denied the uber-conservativeness of this site and then you got downvoted into a bad reply for only AGREEING. Ass holes.
noimaginationtomakeupwittyname
I believe no religion should be taught to minors but that would hurt too many pockets
RedStarBeograd
For real.
Kokihi
Couldn't agree more.
thedevil
while i find this deplorable, i respect a parents right to raise their children how they see fit, short of abuse. While this tiptoes the
FuckILoveMeat
Mental abuse is just as bad as physical abuse in my opinion, but hey each to their own :)
This is abuse in my opinion. They are not putting the child down, just others. Like i said, its wrong, but i don't see it as abuse.
Gnoevoet
Upvoted this, downvoted the other, I'm partial but wanted to fix order :P
thanks
Luvvie
I can only give you one upvote to make this one on top... I'm so sorry
it's ok. I don't post for upvotes. I'm here for the challenging discourse that can often be intelligent and stimulating.
IHadAGoodIdeaForAUsernameButIForgot
I don't understand your logic...
children are being raised to not develop their own beliefs and opinions. They are coming into harm because of their parents actions.
And your answer is to take the child away for abusing children. (Just pointing out how important grammatical clarity is...) btw I agree.
I meant it as in the parents abuse, the subject and then the reason, not what the child is doing, my apologies!
TerribleBot
As an european, what does that sign say ?
SaltCollector
Probably condemning "fags" (homosexuals) to hell or something similar.
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
if that were the case then everyone who didn't agree would get kids taken away for any reason
StiabhnaD
You're right. One family's notions of agrarian self-sufficiency and pacifism is another's subversive hippie cult. But learned hate IS wrong.
i'm pretty big on that it's not my business to tell anyone what to do with their family. as far as we know, these people aren't [1/?]
KKK is still around today and actually had a history of violence and hatred, imo they're worse than WBC, WBC is just more annoying about it
physically harming their kids or anyone. they get a ton of attention for holding signs at parades. their views are fucked up but the [2/?]
Well I think the children of the Westboro baptist church would be thank ful in the long run.
or not. I get that you're against their message, as am I, but it goes against our freedoms to take anyone's kids away for beliefs, (1/2)
I mean come on, they are 'the most hated family in america'.. and with these gun crimes recently, it's worrying
no matter how shitty their belief is. I'd be pissed if people took my kids because I feel I'm raising them the right way.
And they're going against the freedom of speech by not allowing anyone else to have an opinion. I'm worried for the children's safety
everyone else DOES have an opinion, and it's aired quite openly. I get that, but it's just a more extreme version of those raised taht way
line of abuse, it's a slippery slope. Kids aren't mere products of environment. This is sad but that child will make its own choices someday
or they won't because it's all that they know. The parents were raised this way too, look at them. It's disgusting
Beautiful, coming from someone who's supposedly so openminded.
open mindedness is out of the window here considering what's physically happening to these children, it's cruel.
What's physically happening to them? So long as there isn't actual abuse, instilling your beliefs in your child is what a parent is for.
I was raised one way, I came out completely different. Amish kids leave, KKK offspring marry interracial. Environment isn't everything
but most of the time, it counts for something, and i think it's sad that these children have a possibility of turning into monsters.
agreed, but who gets to decide what parents are allowed to teach their kids? Where do you draw the line? i'm not supporting this, just...meh
Some of their kids manage to get out, but it's rare :/
yes and they toss them away and don't want contact at all, i can't imagine how horrific that is, those children must feel so alone.
ugh I know it's horrible. and knowing your family is batcrap crazy and you can't do anything about it can't be all that fun.
ThisIsMcMadness
They are the collateral damage of hate.
ortund
Westboro at it again are they?
Ranier
Kim Jong-un needs to nuke the WBC. Then the US should send him a thank you note. People like that represent just how low humans can be.
Heimlich
+100 for Louis Theroux. The man is awesome
Esko
Proof that hate is taught. Hope I see the day when people just love and accept all other people.
digitalvoid
So heartbreaking. This girl (and all children) are filled with so much innocence until these maniacs teach them hate and intolerance.
Slackjaw
A child should be taught to respect the world and those around them - to teach a child to hate something they don't understand is abhorrent.
bellajynx
Exactly.
SunnyInPhiladelphia
This makes me sad =[
W0lfgang
sonead
Louis Theroux is fantastic.
FrancieHanan11
well, on reddit such comments are considered poor etiquette as they don't actually contribute anything to the discussion.
bellajynx
Not even understanding how anyone can downvote, other than the fact that it upsets them so much they can't feedback with anything positive
mezzidriel
“Racism isn't born, folks, it's taught. I have a two-year-old son. You know what he hates? Naps! End of list.” - Dennis Leary
IAmAdolfHitlerCommanderoftheThirdReich
Ethnocentrism actually is inherent, so.
DamageContrl
BBC docu- "The Most Hated Family in America" I watched this to write a 2 page paper...it ended up being 4 pages because I went on a rant.
DwayneTheRockTheToothfairyJohnson
when that guy throws trash from his car and hits one of the little kids, its absolutely heart breaking
AshleyCFilms
Louis Theroux is one of the best documentary filmmakers. He asks the right questions.
Zugoola
if somebody tried to take me away from my family when i was 17 that person would die..
ShatnersBassoon
YES. MORE LOUIS THEROUX PEOPLE.
BiotSavart
Parenting. You're bad at it.
KamikazeKite
Was greeted by Jehovah at my home some time ago and the lady had her daughter with her. using her as a shield so she could be pushy:( uncool
rpm1984
"No chance poopy pants" That's a quote from that doc
bellajynx
Is there a link to it online by any chance?
rpm1984
I wish I knew the time (all I remember is that it's when he is in the van with one of the daughters, an adult). He asked something like(1/2
rpm1984
...something like "are you likely to change your mind about these people" when they were on the way to or back from a funeral protest
rpm1984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticxD0GfewA&playnext=1&list=PL22AC029667CBD5E1 (part 1/4)
th3thomas
this made me watch every video of the documentary. there really is much more to be said.
ortund
Any chance you can provide links?
th3thomas
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8BB4ED7ACC5E4763 they are all in that playlist
IWillStealYourPenIfItWritesNice
Louis Theroux... amazing man. He deals with crazy people so well. Great documentaries.
DrendDragonspawn
I learned just fine. I'm no longer there.
derpwagon
I too hate fags. Individual sticks are much more useful. Who bundles things anymore anyway?
DalekCommander
TV / phone / Internet Service providers? >_>
loungeking1
FUCK THE WBC
MoreThanAPerfunctoryHello
This is how religion works too. Get them while they're young before their critical thinking skills sets in! Hurry!
GaranimalPlanet
This is how bigotry works too. Condemn everyone unlike you by using a few idiots as an excuse. Hurry!
ortund
This is how irony works. When you can't see that by complaining about something, you're showing yourself to be an example of it...
MoreThanAPerfunctoryHello
... ouch. Lesson learned. *Hurries to apply cold water to burns*
GothicRose88
As a Catholic, my kids will have a choice.
MoreThanAPerfunctoryHello
Excellent. :)
ortund
So if your kids were to become Satanists? You'd be cool with that?
GothicRose88
If that was what they wanted. I would try to discourage them from it but it is their life ultimately.
GothicRose88
As long as they turn out to become good people that's all that matters in the end.
ahcnp2
Know what would be worse? If she did know what it meant.
bellajynx
In the new doc the 11 year old boy speaks so hatefully of gay people it's heartbreaking to watch
ortund
I've never understood it really. Gay people's choices don't affect my life, so I don't bother about it. Why can't all people do the same...
bellajynx
Yep same, I don't understand
bellajynx
I believe that anyone under 18 in this cult should be taken away for child abuse
lysstrange
Yes.
freeballer
A family that protests together stays together. Besides if were lucky they will get into a bad car accident while taking a family vacation.
peediepixie
Harsh, little kids that don't know what they're protesting about could be hurt then... how is that fair? :3
michaelpw97
You meen over 18?
bellajynx
Well then that's prison, whatever works best.
MyNameIsJeanValjean
Agreed
MorfarErHer
Twofold agreed
captaincabbage
*any cult
bellajynx
just using this one for example.
WalterW
What about that cult known as the Christian Church?
pb1kenobi
This is as stupid as saying all Muslims are terrorists. Would you deny humanity in the name of humanity because you dislike something?
DangerousExpensiveEccentricUnladylike
And the cult of the obsessive atheists? I think that's far more damaging. What makes you right?
AcadianBacon
There's good and bad people in all circles, look up the 'true scotsman' argument, it explains it quite well.
gingerbaconkitty
I was raised by atheist parents, you know how that worked? We just didn't talk about god. The end. I was allowed to go to church when I 1/2
DangerousExpensiveEccentricUnladylike
And I was raised by Christian parents, I stopped going to church when I was 12, I started at 20. Some atheists are fine, some Christians too
gingerbaconkitty
got curious, and I now have my own opinion, which happens to be the same as my parents', but not because they forced it on me. 2/2
RyoukoSama
If no one ever brought up god, I think Atheists would not bring god up either.
WalterW
Yes, this will get downvoted on this uber-conservative site. If there was a family that raised their kids to believe in Greek Gods (1/2)
CaptainHanderpants
Claiming a site is conservative is no more credible than saying you're a liberal hippie. Imgur = good cross section of viewpoints.
DapperAlpaca
I don't think "uber-conservative" and supportive of not trying to shame billions of people for their personal beliefs are very comparable.
BillyJoel
You lost me when you called Imgur "uber-conservative"
WalterW
Everyone would label them a cult, or freaks, but it's perfectly acceptable to teach your kids about magic sky man.
WivesWithKnives
+1 agreed.
AcadianBacon
I like how someone denied the uber-conservativeness of this site and then you got downvoted into a bad reply for only AGREEING. Ass holes.
noimaginationtomakeupwittyname
I believe no religion should be taught to minors but that would hurt too many pockets
RedStarBeograd
For real.
Kokihi
Couldn't agree more.
thedevil
while i find this deplorable, i respect a parents right to raise their children how they see fit, short of abuse. While this tiptoes the
FuckILoveMeat
Mental abuse is just as bad as physical abuse in my opinion, but hey each to their own :)
thedevil
This is abuse in my opinion. They are not putting the child down, just others. Like i said, its wrong, but i don't see it as abuse.
Gnoevoet
Upvoted this, downvoted the other, I'm partial but wanted to fix order :P
thedevil
thanks
Luvvie
I can only give you one upvote to make this one on top... I'm so sorry
thedevil
it's ok. I don't post for upvotes. I'm here for the challenging discourse that can often be intelligent and stimulating.
IHadAGoodIdeaForAUsernameButIForgot
I don't understand your logic...
bellajynx
children are being raised to not develop their own beliefs and opinions. They are coming into harm because of their parents actions.
IHadAGoodIdeaForAUsernameButIForgot
And your answer is to take the child away for abusing children. (Just pointing out how important grammatical clarity is...) btw I agree.
bellajynx
I meant it as in the parents abuse, the subject and then the reason, not what the child is doing, my apologies!
TerribleBot
As an european, what does that sign say ?
SaltCollector
Probably condemning "fags" (homosexuals) to hell or something similar.
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
if that were the case then everyone who didn't agree would get kids taken away for any reason
StiabhnaD
You're right. One family's notions of agrarian self-sufficiency and pacifism is another's subversive hippie cult. But learned hate IS wrong.
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
i'm pretty big on that it's not my business to tell anyone what to do with their family. as far as we know, these people aren't [1/?]
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
KKK is still around today and actually had a history of violence and hatred, imo they're worse than WBC, WBC is just more annoying about it
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
physically harming their kids or anyone. they get a ton of attention for holding signs at parades. their views are fucked up but the [2/?]
bellajynx
Well I think the children of the Westboro baptist church would be thank ful in the long run.
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
or not. I get that you're against their message, as am I, but it goes against our freedoms to take anyone's kids away for beliefs, (1/2)
bellajynx
I mean come on, they are 'the most hated family in america'.. and with these gun crimes recently, it's worrying
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
no matter how shitty their belief is. I'd be pissed if people took my kids because I feel I'm raising them the right way.
bellajynx
And they're going against the freedom of speech by not allowing anyone else to have an opinion. I'm worried for the children's safety
JesseTwaughthammerPinkman
everyone else DOES have an opinion, and it's aired quite openly. I get that, but it's just a more extreme version of those raised taht way
thedevil
line of abuse, it's a slippery slope. Kids aren't mere products of environment. This is sad but that child will make its own choices someday
bellajynx
or they won't because it's all that they know. The parents were raised this way too, look at them. It's disgusting
IAmAdolfHitlerCommanderoftheThirdReich
Beautiful, coming from someone who's supposedly so openminded.
bellajynx
open mindedness is out of the window here considering what's physically happening to these children, it's cruel.
IAmAdolfHitlerCommanderoftheThirdReich
What's physically happening to them? So long as there isn't actual abuse, instilling your beliefs in your child is what a parent is for.
thedevil
I was raised one way, I came out completely different. Amish kids leave, KKK offspring marry interracial. Environment isn't everything
bellajynx
but most of the time, it counts for something, and i think it's sad that these children have a possibility of turning into monsters.
thedevil
agreed, but who gets to decide what parents are allowed to teach their kids? Where do you draw the line? i'm not supporting this, just...meh
gingerbaconkitty
Some of their kids manage to get out, but it's rare :/
bellajynx
yes and they toss them away and don't want contact at all, i can't imagine how horrific that is, those children must feel so alone.
gingerbaconkitty
ugh I know it's horrible. and knowing your family is batcrap crazy and you can't do anything about it can't be all that fun.