cytherians
38994
1276
14
https://www.thewesternedge.media/p/everyone-is-replaceable-death-rattles
EDIT: *** THANK YOU, for the Accolades! ***
Apr 13, 2026 6:56 PM
cytherians
38994
1276
14
https://www.thewesternedge.media/p/everyone-is-replaceable-death-rattles
EDIT: *** THANK YOU, for the Accolades! ***
RedJacketHero
Another day of living with only the bad parts of a cyberpunk dystopia
VictusVonGuyver
Oh again. The issue here is when I try to remember this story, I have to try remembering it by year and month because it is normal at Amazon by this point.
kojenk
AGAIN?!
GroovyCrowley
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bG4zcGxyenAzaTVlejJxMHE3ZGc4ZnNseHJ5eWs5d2s3ZDJoOWNvZSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/gFu1FgfBKwiUE/200w.webp
KAPTKipper
RevN3Adventures
The source for this news article is sketch as fuck. It's literally two anonymous employees. It could be 100% fiction. Amazon is bad but you need to check your news sources even when you agree with the conclusions.
welcometothedystopia
Our local Amazon warehouse made the news because it was not air conditioned and would hit 120F in the summer.
People would pass out or have a serious heat related medical issue all the time.
So instead of fixing the dangerous work environment by just installing AC, they decided to hire a private ambulance company to have units sitting in the parking lot because it was cheaper to just take them to the hospital.
Eventually the local news reported it several times and they finally got AC.
Evil.
AdroitCudgel
Time to start burning down Amazon warehouses...
brickshot
Nah, that just screws over people who aren't involved. Burn down the CEO's house, the manager's house, get the people who are actually to blame for this shit. Burning down the warehouse puts employees out of work, and makes it harder for people to get the items they need and might not be able to get elsewhere because brick and mortar stores are dying.
Nanoline
Reading through the article it gets even worse - when they finally *did* send everyone home before the end of the normal shift-end time, they told everyone they'd be paid for the full day...and then a week later when they checked their hours, they'd been *shorted the promised pay*.
Oh, and "unpaid leave" was offered for any workers who would have difficulty working the next day.
philmoregraves
My ex worked in a warehouse for a bit before i met her. She told me how a worker was on the forks of a fork lift up high, guess it was common practice there. Fell to his death, they Just closed the aisle and have everyone keep working while his blood just oozed from his corpse
Imadethisaccounttopost
Fuck corporate America!
They need a healthy drink of Molotov Cocktail
CoryBoy
I'm sorry but how did we get to the point of needing to negotiate for stopping work for a fucking dead coworker
brickshot
A better question is how did we get BACK to the point of needing to do that. Our ancestors already fought this war. Why the hell do we keep going backwards?
Nephytis
I watched a guy OD on something mid warehouse pushing a picking cart in circles..no one would help him and they wouldn't let anyone. He did not live. Thanks Macy's.
dirtmarker
pilomotor
BlueDsc
If this isn't already illegal, it 100% needs to be.
lightfoot2
The milgram experiment at scale.
thedarklord187
Can you give us a tldr of what that means ?
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
tl;dr - "Please do [objectively bad thing] for me. I understand you might feel uncomfortable, but you can rest assured that I - a person in a position of authority - have given you permission to do [bad thing] so it's okay for you to do it. If anything, I'd be upset with you for NOT doing it." works far better than anyone really wants to admit.
MrCheesebiscuit
Check your wifi, 8:20 minsđ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9U1OUk-m5o
sundaymondayhippyday
I think America is a living Milgram experiment -
Stanley Milgram did concoct this experiment there in the 60âs
rezurok
Means most people show a surprising amount of deference to authority figures, to the point where they blindly follow orders even when the orders are at odds with their own conscience. In essence somebody else telling them to do the awful thing absolves them from having to feel bad for doing the awful thing
thedarklord187
thanks for the info though !
thedarklord187
That's such a wild concept to me , I've always felt an inmate urge to rebel and fight back against authority figures since they are largely incorrect and incompetent.
SnakuPlisskin
There's a little more to it. The person giving the orders was a "scientist" and the person being shocked was a "willing participant" so on some level it made sense to assume the scientist knew what they were doing. But I agree, I've always had a problem with authority and that problem ratchets up quite a bit once the "authority" starts abusing power.
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
Don't forget the part about electrically shocking subjects while deferring to their superiors. Thereby shirking any personal responsibility for the pain exerted upon subjects. "Just following orders."
Spoenk
Amazon really does see it's workers as expendable meatbags. Instruct people to go on with work leaving the corpse on the floor. wow. The level of inhumane disrespectfullness exceeds any fathomable scale..
Starlatan
I'm gonna show this to the next asshole asking me why don't I work in one of these.
mohavewolfpup
Couldnât yank my app fast enough learning how theyâll lure you into the warehouse with a job then in comes a lackey for an outside firm announcing âsurprise! Youâll actually work for us not Amazon!â And folks wonder why a warehouse in Ontario went up in flames
TurnsOut42WasASlightMiscalculation
Gee, that sounds like how factories operated before unions. Wonder what we can do about that?
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
Fill these warehouses with robots that can't complain, strike, and/or sue, form unions, etc.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
"Just turn around and not look. Let's get back to work"
v
PhailRaptor
Actually a lot of disrespect intended
SecretAgentSuperBooger
And...
TI99Kitty
Is that Billy Connelly?
PoliticalWanderer
Yeah, it's from the film The Last Samurai, Connelly had a supporting role as an old soldier who used to fight in the same unit as Tom Cruise's main character.
TI99Kitty
Hmm... I'll have to look for that at the library. Thanks!
SecretAgentSuperBooger
INeverReadTheTOS
That warehouse sounds very flammable.
thatsbadmmkay
Someone should
GeneralPrower
The problem is that Amazon invests heavily in fire suppression systems.
Tankmoose
The solution is to wait until the fire dept shuts them off
Krossis
Small fire to trip the system, and a second to actually burn it. Pretty sure that's what happened with that warehouse last week
Reidsb
That warehouse was also specifically filled with one of the most flammable products we make as a species.
MediocreExtremist
rocket fuel ?
DavidBrooker
If you wanna get technical, liquid rocket fuels are frequently combustible (flash point over 38C), rather than flammable (flash point below 38C). Especially heavier grades of kerosene.
smashpro1
Paper
philmoregraves
If ur looking at going down anyways there is always a way to shut off fire suppression. Valves, matabo, drilling holes etc. If u wanna get the thing done, u can absolutely get it done, but no telling how long ur prison stay will be
BeachsideBarghest
I do NOT recommend drilling holes into high pressure pipes. Find a safety shut off valve first, then drill away.
METROlD
At least they feed you in prison.
PostHartmann
When you have nothing left to lose, you lose nothing.
philmoregraves
Facts
philmoregraves
Actually to comment about this again (sorry to bother), but i been thinking about this a lot the last few years bc to me it just seems logical, but clearly lost on the rich douchebags and political elites etc. They keep pushing and pushing and pushing the avg americans more and more into a corner expecting they can endlessly oppress and extract. Or the type of ppl that say "ill make sure you never work around here again/ill ruin your entire family's life" etc and its like wow u really didnt >
philmoregraves
Think all of this shit through. You take everything from someone, every last bit you can then they become infinitely more dangerous bc you gave them no reason to continue pushing on, continuing to figure out a path to not be lowly. What a threatening thing to basically disenfranchise someone so much that now they have every reason to return the favor
GasBandit
They also stock a lot of lithium ion batteries, which are notoriously hard to extinguish...
SixSixxtySix
Its flammability is directly proportionate to how punchable Jeff Bezo's face is.
PineappleLoopsBroether
The foreman and manager are DEFINITELY flammable. Donât burn stuff, burn the fuckers in charge.
skrimg59
let us know when you do that
PineappleLoopsBroether
/gallery/jAtvIvR/comment/2497378635
BeachsideBarghest
People are never the enemy.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Jeff Bezos is a person. Elon is too. Iâm not totally convinced theyâre people from this planet, but theyâre people and also the enemyâŚ. Guess who else is bothâŚ. The guy who said to just get back to work. Thatâs enforcement.
BeachsideBarghest
Yeah, fair point. My view is that we need to attack the systems and institutions that create those kind of people. Treat the disease, not the symptoms.
theskepticinme
Donât murder middle management
PineappleLoopsBroether
The guy who said âjust donât look at the dead body, get back to workâ
ChelVanin
The manager who told people keep working should be named and shamed.
RooGryphon
and have his address posted
MapleSyrupMafia
Stuffed in an Amazon box and shipped to Antartica.
pancreas
*fired
PhailRaptor
porsecuted*
AlwaysDownvoteDots
into the sun
mabbo
He's just as replaceable in the Amazon machine. Everyone up to and including the site leader in charge of the place has to hit numbers or be fired. The problem isn't the people, it's the machine and the laws and government that allow it to exist.
REOJackwagon
So "just following orders"
mabbo
Somewhat. Most people in the building are living paycheck to paycheck. Losing this job might mean losing their kids, their homes, their health insurance. We've built a society so precarious that not following orders has serious consequences and we're shocked when people fall in line like good little cogs in the orphan crushing machine. The people running the machine want you to blame *him*, that area manager, for doing the bad thing rather than *them*. They'll just fire him and replace him.
ChelVanin
The machine only exists in the abstract. It stops existing if people stop believing it exists.
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
But their packages will never arrive within the stated delivery window /s
thinkybrainpains
And that person and company sued by everyone for creating trauma and suffering
ThadisJones
The guy who burned the Kimberly-Clark warehouse down to the ground killed no one but Amazon is likely not even going to be investigated for someone dying on the job.
Neednoggle
Burn it down
swedeonamoose
If that happened here the Union would have a fucking field day tearing the company a new arsehole.
MapleSyrupMafia
My old union fought pretty hard to protect morons who ended up being fired after everything was exhausted to protect them... but yeah, a decent union would not go lightly on them for something as bad as someone fucking dying.
huffnpuff72
Unfortunately unions do stand up for shitty workers all too often. Sure, back them through the process, but if the employer has decent evidence, cut the bad worker and focus on the rest of the workers.
blaghart
it's surreal watching my comments pointing out that unions make every worker better off get downvoted in the face of posts like OP's, too
malbec
Bots bots and more bots
Vebrandsson
Yea, I don't get it. My go to with anti union folks is to say if unions are so bad why don't we start by getting rid of police unions and see how much that improves law enforcement. They don't want to discuss the subject with me after that.
cousteau
Because the propaganda bots are working as intended.
Filanwizard
Unions and the labor laws they helped form also make life better for the executives, in that unions and labor laws provide avenues for discussion of problems. Compared to just lynching the CEO after taking out their pinkerton goons.
CedricDur
I know someone who hates unions. They cost money to be in, according to him, and don't do enough, according to him, and wanted him to join a strike but he needs money to feed his family, so he bailed. I can see him downvoting due to his experiences.
GoSibi
The dues are generally far, far lower than the salary boost from being in a union.
CedricDur
Yeah, I agree. It's what I told him as well. Unions have shown their value over and over. I can't force to change his mind though, all it took was a few bad experiences for him to now be against unions.
Hey, I didn't say he was a smart man.
cytherians
There are ugly downvoter accounts out there that stalk a lot of users, regularly downvoting anything posted that meets a certain narrative. I just shrug it off. They're losers and not worth our time!
Phlyn
really depends on the union. I know just as many people who got fucked by unions as those who benefit.
i dont think unions are a universal improvement.
Thedewk
Then give up all the improvements to working conditions that unions have won over the past 100+ years
cuzitsthere
Yeah, I know those guys too. Usually they hum and haw when you ask HOW they "got fucked" right up until they admit to dropping hard Rs on the new black guy or honking a female supervisors tits in the break room. Fuck off, scab
illegalacorn
Unions are a universal wage improvement tool
Phlyn
say that to my friend who got .15 cent raises and was making $5/hr below market non-union.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
No you don't, fucking lying scab.
Phlyn
yep, such useful information. ever see someone get fired for saving someone else from bodily harm or death? had a friend who stepped into the back of a truck to stop a box from falling on someone, they got fired for it because he wasn't allowed to be in the truck by job role.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Sure you do. Sure.
Xenarion
Yeah that's why they don't want unions.
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
And that's why they're now turning to AI. Meaning they're outsourcing jobs to the Phillipines (Amazon, Waymo, Tesla, etc.) and calling it "AI". At least there they don't have to pay an American living wage, worker protections, or deal with possible unions...
Xenarion
Eh, not just "now". Amazon has been huge on automation. Amazon warehouses have some crazy levels of automation in their process, like bots carrying entire shelves.
Kyzyl
Amazon picks warehouses locations very carefully to avoid all that "organized labor" trouble.
Ac1dBurn72
For YEARS even mentioning a union in a Walmart would get you escorted out.
They also learned it was cheaper to pay the fine than to offer healthcare and lobbied HARD against the ACA.
This isn't new. And, honestly, it should have been dealt with swiftly a long time ago.
theinternetkeepsmealive
Like it was in literally every other developed nation in the world?
Ac1dBurn72
Oh. I agree 100%.
But corporations own our government. And until that is addressed, it'll never change.
CycloneSP
I'm so angry it's "illegal" to create a union in NC. like, how did something as insane as that become law???
XuncuTheTiger
Reagan and evangelicals.
swofromtherock
Because people lie.
CycloneSP
you would be correct. just double checked, and yeah, the guy that told me that was lying. soz for the misinfo
brownribbon
How is it illegal?
CycloneSP
okay, it seems I was informed incorrectly. the person that told me this must've mistake the NC General Statute § 95-98 that prohibits collective bargaining for state/city/county employees as a general "cannot create a union" TIL: don't trust what other ppl tell ya, folks, google things yerself! T_T
CycloneSP
(hmm, I guess it'd be more of a "PSA" not a "TIL" for this...
phalanxausage
Unions are legal in North Carolina but nearly powerless.
brownribbon
HmmmâŚthatâs illegal too under the first amendment.
ipointoutnahtzeesbyreplyingtothem
Factory near me was reduced to bussing people in from fifty miles away because they'd burnt through every possible employee in the county for being so terrible to work for. Union vote still failed. That's how brainwashed people are about unions.
Sageypie
Factory i work for used to be one of the highest paying locations around, pre-covid. So they had people trying to work here by the droves, driving in on the daily from up to 3 hours away. We were on two 8 hour shifts for the factory, six days a week, with an overnight cleaning crew. That became two 10 hours. And then it became two 12 hours, running 24/7. People starting filtering out since they couldn't keep up, but applicants were still streaming in. Then covid happened. Other places started-
Sageypie
-paying fairer wages. Suddenly it wasnt worth a 3 hour drive, one way, to work for a place that would pay only slightly more than the place you'd be able to work at locally. So work took a nosedive as nobody was lining up to work here anymore, and people still kept filtering put at alarming rates due to retirement or just not being able to keep up with the insane amount of hours.
All that, all the mandatory overtime we constantly have, and the lack of benefits, and folk still avoid unions here
prosper020
âMandatory overtimeâ makes absolutely no sense to me, on a social level. How is it not just called âforced laborâ? Sure you are compensated for the labor, but you were threatened with job loss for not going way above and beyond.
I donât get why for companies they are allowed to do such things. Wouldnât capitalism say that if they canât find the workers to be open then they donât open?
Itâs not right, but I get it with life saving / sustaining jobs.
LurkingSarcasm
Amazon would just close the entire warehouse
randomwalrus
I hear that we can close them for them, all it takes is a little fire.
Starlatan
All they had to do...
DMSledge
Yep. It is absolutely nuts. Literally had someone complaining to me that their new employer is better because they get more hours and no union to pay into. They get paid less and work split shifts every day, but at least they take home almost as much money.
ToSisPoS
âAnd none of those stinking benefits, eating up my money eitherâ
fractalsphere
This is why conservatives hate unions and union protections
lightfoot2
Union?
Vempire
Union
flounder35
Workers enter an arrangement to collectively bargain with a company, State, etc.
IfOnlyICouldUseMyPowersForGood
Strong girl. Union?
RetrogradeLlama
Sounds like a lawsuit for mental abuse to me. A very expensive lawsuit for Bezos.
Whitebeardthepirate
"ummm yeahhhh so you signed away your rights when you signed the contract, so you can't sue, and I get to take your entire paycheck as pocket money" - bezos and amazon.
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
"When you signed up for your employee Amazon Prime account (and not thoroughly reading the end user license agreement) you accepted binding arbitration."
RetrogradeLlama
Yeah, that case that you are slightly referring to was the most bizarre attempt by a corporation to dodge responsibility.
GeneralPrower
"But sir you don't pay us at all"
Whitebeardthepirate
"oh that came out of your insurances and benefits. btw we'll need you to do overtime to pay that back"
RetrogradeLlama
I get your point, but I'm certain this would fall outside the scope of what would be expected under the contract.
Whitebeardthepirate
and even if that was the case, this would be the outcome: "the plaintiff has presented years of documented evidence, witnesses from doctors to inspectors, and a solid undeniable case. However, the defendant has given me 10 million dollars. case for the defendant"
BluePaladin42
I remember when something like this happened at the Amazon I used to work at. Dude had a heart attack and dropped dead at his station. Took by at least an hour for management to even notice and when they did they tried pretty hard to hide what happened as the had the body removed
TheDaharMaster
Iâve been boycotting them for YEARS. Amazon is just like trumpâŚthey can do whatever evil shit they want to, and ppl will still support them.
I know my little boycott has absolutely fuck-all to do with their bottom line but my conscience is clear.
EzraFell
I swear every day there is at least one headline that makes me wish I could turn my anger into some form of pure energy that could instantly change the very fabric and landscape of this cruel and confounding place.
GlutenFreeCocaineWaffles
I like to fantasize that I'm as powerful and pissed off as a Viltrumite from Invincible.
EzraFell
That's alluring, but I'm already so angry that I'd rather not think about visceral violence. I'd be more happy with Doctor Manhattan level of post-human omnipotence, just turning things into dust.
IGotTheMusicInMe425
I'd just be happy with the ability to find them and throw garbage and rotten food. I'm really thinking we need to bring back the stocks for people like this. With provided garbage for throwing, and designated hours for the homeless to line up and pee on them.
Eyeetsass
If I needed to help a coworker, and anyone told me not to, theyâd wake up to find out I helped my coworker. Stop letting these mother fuckers steal your humanity.
PhailRaptor
That person would wake up in the hospital, and I'd have already helped the coworker
thedarklord187
Yep never give in.
ShadeMeadowsArt
EXACTLY
crodrigues
all of those workers should file a lawsuit for mental distress forced on them by the manager forcing them to pretend everything was normal as a corpse lied on their work floor intentionally ignored as a reminder of what will happen to everyone there if the same thing happens to them.
rbudrick
A class action lawsuit? You mean employees organizing? Sounds like they may as well form a union at that point. Agreed, but lets not pretend they wouldn't all be instantly fired.
epithymetic
Thatâs not what class action means
rbudrick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action
How's that? Seems to fit well.
epithymetic
Because a class certification requires that the people within the class are too numerous to identify and list individually. Since all the injured people are known, they can be listed as individual plaintiffs: âperson a, person b, person c v. Amazonâ instead
Eyeetsass
The manager should have been beaten by more people than they could charge.
Einstein9073
They don't do things that way anymore. They just disappear you illegally and you are never heard from again. This is what it means to be denied due process
Eyeetsass
When they make it impossible to speak your truth it becomes imperative to act your truth.