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And if you're in North Carolina you should preparing your wallets: http://i.imgur.com/f5YvGNe.png
Lie 1
"Fox News is telling me that from 2010 to 2016, all 23 of the non-profit, government funded insurance co-ops lost money and 16 had to close"
That's because those co-ops were just MONEY GRABBING SCHEMES. But it fits their narrative.
http://i.imgur.com/IvU26Zv.png
Sauce:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/30/failing-obamacare-CO-OPs-offer-lavish-executive-pay-and-may-violate-the-law-video
Lie 2
ACA has been failing for years.
The numerical facts are out there if you want to read them, but to be certain, ACA is far from perfect. Especially in states that rejected through laws.
Also, people forget that INSURANCE COMPANIES are the ones be regulated here. https://i.imgur.com/2xkQ67w.jpg
Dolenmorgul
I know it's not the American way but look how other countries do it and LEARN!!!
Stupidasssmile
This one time I failed a course on logic about how happier people would be with access to healthcare. Good health isn't a right apparently.
notme222
Just so I'm clear: your DEFENSE of Obamacare is that it loaned $2 billion to "public option" providers, 100% of which were corrupt?
onecnote
Not to mention the hundreds of billions he stole from fannie mae to prop up it's finances to make it "viable" financially.
onecnote
https://johngraysonblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/06/how-obama-defrauded-the-american-people-legally/
SaintOfIron
ACA Was a boon to insurance companies. 1. Increase Premiums every year by a max amount. 2. It made 100% employer coverage illegal. #Facts.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Source?
SaintOfIron
The ACA itself. Check rules on Premium raising. Check 'Cadillac plans' in ACA.
onecnote
http://www.palisadeshudson.com/2016/09/how-health-insurers-became-cable-companies/
SpikedSynapse
the only thing that will keep this from being downvoted is people wont read it.
onecnote
In a society based on lies those who tell the truth become the enemy.
onecnote
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-more-us-counties-to-see-obamacare-marketplace-monopoly-analysis-2016-8
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Yes states that didn't get involved and were kind of against haven't done well. Others are doing just fine:
gerardMajax
as an french guy i can't understand how the US are still on such a stone age thinking on their health care system
notme222
Well if you want to understand why don't you try talking to someone who disagrees with you? As opposed to this comment section of strawmen.
gerardMajax
the last "raise" in our system was to raise the amount to pay to doctors from 21€ to 23 and people werent happy
gerardMajax
we are the country that pay most taxes in the world, but we can go to the hospital and be correctly treated even if we can't affrod it
onecnote
Funny you mention stone age when most of the world's medical innovation is happening here, competition drives innovation.
Didthatjusthappen
Think that Skrelli guy would like to have a word
SocialistWithTheMostalist
B-but single payer is socialism! Better dead than red! Now about those darn millenials not earning enough to pay for my social security...
HEXADECIMAL
They're going to keep pushing their agenda until we decide Euthanasia is a better plan...
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Ironically, Medicaid IS single payer and it's working fine.
onecnote
It's massively in debt to it's eyeballs, how is that "working fine"
HEXADECIMAL
Oh really? Who exactly is it in debt to? The same ppl the US Gov't owes money to? Who specifically is that?
HEXADECIMAL
How about we bail out healthcare since we bailed out the fraudsters who 80% of should be sitting in club Fed with Madoff.
DeviatedPrevert
If we have to pay some debts so that people don't die, is that so bad?
numbertwo
Pay it how? .... No one has a problem with wanting everyone alive, it's that we cannot afford it.
InJenius
That should tell you that the root of the problem lies with the practices of insurance companies and big pharma. Life shouldnt be for-profit
DeviatedPrevert
we actually can tho