Nov 6, 2016 2:26 AM
KilgorTrout451
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ShamelessUpvoteWhore
Everything about this post is so ignorant.
NotGonnaSugarCoat
More skin cancers though
bikelane
Oh, those cheesy Kurds.
After they've beaten ISIS for us, will we abandon them to be crushed, as we did in Iraq?
Needcouchpie
Good eye relief
knive404
If I can put a yellow ribbon on because our soldiers are beyond politics, I can DEFINITELY respect these women. Fuck yeah.
JimmieBradleyScott
I encourage all who like this picture to go to this fb page https://www.facebook.com/TheLionsOfRojavaOfficial/
PreciousPotato
Now, that's what I call a real Social Justice Warrior.
shitduke
aren't the kurds often communists?
KunFayyaKun
yeah, leave it to imgur to not understand anything about geopolitics.
knrf683
Do you think that no one here can support a Kurdish free state?
Hey, you are free to support whatever you want to, no matter how uninformed you are.
gakio12
I cared the first few times this group was posted, but it is posted so much, I don't really care anymore.
PedanticAsshat
That grip seems awkward.
The tape makes it look like a redneck repair.
doctuc
The pkk is a communist organisation with a stalinist-like personality-cult concerning their leader Abdullah Ă–calan.
Racealistic
Yep they are terrorist as well. Its funny seeing americans go "omg they are so awesome!" and blaming Turkey.
notsoBlackAdder
Don't forget that back then US supported Bin-Laden just like they do with Kurds.
Glumerlink
the kurds have their own set of religious problems
Johnsky
Yeah, turkey is one of them.
HodorFirstOfHisName
Ayyyyy lmao
Naiirita
Most of their problems seem to be more political in nature.
baldewok
Yup, honor killings.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
That is more a cultural issue in the general region than anything that can be traces back to any particular religion.
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questionableanswers
It's time to stop posting.
Mycologics
Wat?
Schmetterlingthebutterfly
(1) It's crazy how we jump on the bandwagon of supporting one side or the other. I obviously completely support any force that opposes ISIS.
(2) However, the factions that fight in the Middle East are little fish funded by much larger powers. The Middle East has become a ground
(3) proxy wars and because of this the battleground is incredibly complex and not simple enough to support one group or the other. On one
(4) day, the Kurds could be allied to the Nusra front, on the next to the Syrian regime and so on. Ultimately, the Levant is a clusterfuck
(5) where there are unfortunately no longer any good guys or good goals. Just leaders with agendas and soldiers who want to avenge family.
theYelder
Why the fuck isn't there a discussion (esp. with Syria dominating headlines) about a Kurdish state?
thisisprocrastination
Because Turkey is in NATO, and EU wants to be friendly to its neighbour.
Cliffordthebigredog
Because Trump said pussy.
Deja Vu dude.
delpharseven
Because Turkey (NATO "ally") really really really doesn't want that to ever happen.
CivilizedUndead
Neither does Syria, Iraq and Iran, all of whom hold a portion of Kurdistan, let's not blame Turkey entire for this. Also 1/2
no one wants to see their nation break apart. It's unfair to blame Turkey for something other NATO nations would do as well (UK). 2/2
Supporting a Kurdish state would serve as an excellent buffer between the ambitions of Iran, Turkey , Russia, the Saudis. Estrogen is the ne
WallpaperProblems
Yeah but trying to support such an idea will get you that amount of Enemies, as much as a Kurdish State may sound good those guys won't
Allow you to consider it before going kinda nuts
grabthembythepussy
Because it's fiction and giving Kurds fake hopes in semitic land they never been part of it historically or ethnically
GoodChange
Maybe now that erdogan is going full dictator we can put some pressure on him. Unless mr T get in the whitehouse
jetflight
Problem is, Turkey is powerful. Really, really powerful. So they can and will force the issue.
Edrogen is looking to become the next Saddam ...he built a 500 million $ palace to live in, and is purging all opposition. Good reason to su
Support the Kurds.
Yeah, what erdogan does now is what Saddam did in 1980
Not really, they're fighting for an independent Kurdish state, not really equal rights. ?noredirect
Mankytoes
It's like when people say we fought ww2 for "freedom". Well, to stop a Nazi superpower. A Kurdish state is a reasonable goal though.
Actually, most are there to kill ISIS. Many were victims.
You're talking about individuals, but Kurdish orgs that they're a part of (YPG, PKK...etc) their main goal is creating a new homeland.
mikeatike
Cultures that can't get along without constantly killing each other is the problem. The entire middle East is a lost cause.
That is a gross over simplification.
Gandalfthefab
A free Kurdish state would be dank it would be like another Israel
It really wouldn't, that's a misconception. First of all, you'd have to convince 4 different nations to let go of their portion of 1/?
the Kurds do not. In fact, between the Kurds vs the Iraqis and Turks, the US will choose Iraq and Turkey 100% of the time. 6/?
rely mainly on its neighbors for trade, all of whom would be extremely hostile to it. Israel has the luxury of being friends with the US5/?
That this new Kurdish state is self-sustainable, which it wouldn't be. It would have a small naval port to the west, but it would have to4/?
FAR more independent than other Kurdish separatist groups. They also have very VERY close ties to Turkey. You'd also need to make sure 3/?
All in all, as much as people have an optimistic view of a free Kurdistan, there is a good chance it would end up just like South-Sudan.7/7
Kurdistan. Next, you'd have to convince the Iraqi Kurds to join a new united Kurdish nation, which is unlikely to happen, as they're 2/?
TheVakarian
Nope.
I, for one, have no problem with a Kurdish state.
Sure, but I can name three countries that do, because it directly affects them negatively. But again, not really my business.
No-one ever wants to give up their occupied territory. Too fucking bad.
The kurds effectively control large areas of iraq and syria. They're defacto independent in those areas.
Three, plus Iran.
meant* damn it, why do I keep screwing up?
Oops, I means 4, good catch. I keep forgetting that Iran controls a portion of Kurdistan as well.
Either way, it's potential WW3 fodder.
ShamelessUpvoteWhore
Everything about this post is so ignorant.
NotGonnaSugarCoat
More skin cancers though
bikelane
Oh, those cheesy Kurds.
KilgorTrout451
After they've beaten ISIS for us, will we abandon them to be crushed, as we did in Iraq?
Needcouchpie
Good eye relief
knive404
If I can put a yellow ribbon on because our soldiers are beyond politics, I can DEFINITELY respect these women. Fuck yeah.
JimmieBradleyScott
I encourage all who like this picture to go to this fb page https://www.facebook.com/TheLionsOfRojavaOfficial/
PreciousPotato
Now, that's what I call a real Social Justice Warrior.
shitduke
aren't the kurds often communists?
KunFayyaKun
yeah, leave it to imgur to not understand anything about geopolitics.
knrf683
Do you think that no one here can support a Kurdish free state?
KunFayyaKun
Hey, you are free to support whatever you want to, no matter how uninformed you are.
gakio12
I cared the first few times this group was posted, but it is posted so much, I don't really care anymore.
PedanticAsshat
That grip seems awkward.
KilgorTrout451
The tape makes it look like a redneck repair.
doctuc
The pkk is a communist organisation with a stalinist-like personality-cult concerning their leader Abdullah Ă–calan.
Racealistic
Yep they are terrorist as well. Its funny seeing americans go "omg they are so awesome!" and blaming Turkey.
notsoBlackAdder
Don't forget that back then US supported Bin-Laden just like they do with Kurds.
Glumerlink
the kurds have their own set of religious problems
Johnsky
Yeah, turkey is one of them.
HodorFirstOfHisName
Ayyyyy lmao
Naiirita
Most of their problems seem to be more political in nature.
baldewok
Yup, honor killings.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
That is more a cultural issue in the general region than anything that can be traces back to any particular religion.
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questionableanswers
It's time to stop posting.
Mycologics
Wat?
Schmetterlingthebutterfly
(1) It's crazy how we jump on the bandwagon of supporting one side or the other. I obviously completely support any force that opposes ISIS.
Schmetterlingthebutterfly
(2) However, the factions that fight in the Middle East are little fish funded by much larger powers. The Middle East has become a ground
Schmetterlingthebutterfly
(3) proxy wars and because of this the battleground is incredibly complex and not simple enough to support one group or the other. On one
Schmetterlingthebutterfly
(4) day, the Kurds could be allied to the Nusra front, on the next to the Syrian regime and so on. Ultimately, the Levant is a clusterfuck
Schmetterlingthebutterfly
(5) where there are unfortunately no longer any good guys or good goals. Just leaders with agendas and soldiers who want to avenge family.
theYelder
Why the fuck isn't there a discussion (esp. with Syria dominating headlines) about a Kurdish state?
thisisprocrastination
Because Turkey is in NATO, and EU wants to be friendly to its neighbour.
Cliffordthebigredog
Because Trump said pussy.
KilgorTrout451
Deja Vu dude.
delpharseven
Because Turkey (NATO "ally") really really really doesn't want that to ever happen.
CivilizedUndead
Neither does Syria, Iraq and Iran, all of whom hold a portion of Kurdistan, let's not blame Turkey entire for this. Also 1/2
CivilizedUndead
no one wants to see their nation break apart. It's unfair to blame Turkey for something other NATO nations would do as well (UK). 2/2
KilgorTrout451
Supporting a Kurdish state would serve as an excellent buffer between the ambitions of Iran, Turkey , Russia, the Saudis. Estrogen is the ne
WallpaperProblems
Yeah but trying to support such an idea will get you that amount of Enemies, as much as a Kurdish State may sound good those guys won't
WallpaperProblems
Allow you to consider it before going kinda nuts
grabthembythepussy
Because it's fiction and giving Kurds fake hopes in semitic land they never been part of it historically or ethnically
GoodChange
Maybe now that erdogan is going full dictator we can put some pressure on him. Unless mr T get in the whitehouse
jetflight
Problem is, Turkey is powerful. Really, really powerful. So they can and will force the issue.
KilgorTrout451
Edrogen is looking to become the next Saddam ...he built a 500 million $ palace to live in, and is purging all opposition. Good reason to su
KilgorTrout451
Support the Kurds.
GoodChange
Yeah, what erdogan does now is what Saddam did in 1980
CivilizedUndead
Not really, they're fighting for an independent Kurdish state, not really equal rights.
?noredirect
Mankytoes
It's like when people say we fought ww2 for "freedom". Well, to stop a Nazi superpower. A Kurdish state is a reasonable goal though.
KilgorTrout451
Actually, most are there to kill ISIS. Many were victims.
CivilizedUndead
You're talking about individuals, but Kurdish orgs that they're a part of (YPG, PKK...etc) their main goal is creating a new homeland.
mikeatike
Cultures that can't get along without constantly killing each other is the problem. The entire middle East is a lost cause.
CivilizedUndead
That is a gross over simplification.
Gandalfthefab
A free Kurdish state would be dank it would be like another Israel
CivilizedUndead
It really wouldn't, that's a misconception. First of all, you'd have to convince 4 different nations to let go of their portion of 1/?
CivilizedUndead
the Kurds do not. In fact, between the Kurds vs the Iraqis and Turks, the US will choose Iraq and Turkey 100% of the time. 6/?
CivilizedUndead
rely mainly on its neighbors for trade, all of whom would be extremely hostile to it. Israel has the luxury of being friends with the US5/?
CivilizedUndead
That this new Kurdish state is self-sustainable, which it wouldn't be. It would have a small naval port to the west, but it would have to4/?
CivilizedUndead
FAR more independent than other Kurdish separatist groups. They also have very VERY close ties to Turkey. You'd also need to make sure 3/?
CivilizedUndead
All in all, as much as people have an optimistic view of a free Kurdistan, there is a good chance it would end up just like South-Sudan.7/7
CivilizedUndead
Kurdistan. Next, you'd have to convince the Iraqi Kurds to join a new united Kurdish nation, which is unlikely to happen, as they're 2/?
TheVakarian
Nope.
theYelder
I, for one, have no problem with a Kurdish state.
CivilizedUndead
Sure, but I can name three countries that do, because it directly affects them negatively. But again, not really my business.
knrf683
No-one ever wants to give up their occupied territory. Too fucking bad.
questionableanswers
The kurds effectively control large areas of iraq and syria. They're defacto independent in those areas.
theYelder
Three, plus Iran.
CivilizedUndead
meant* damn it, why do I keep screwing up?
CivilizedUndead
Oops, I means 4, good catch. I keep forgetting that Iran controls a portion of Kurdistan as well.
theYelder
Either way, it's potential WW3 fodder.