Mar 29, 2023 12:26 AM
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SnazzyDad
She is a goddamn treasure, and I'm not even from the U.S.
PithyCommentBelow
Hang on a second. You’re telling me that the GOP is siding with a corporation over the public interest? How can it be???
Dizastrpiece
WaitingManAus
I like that her explanation simply states how little the American people gain from this Bill - in small words even a MAGA could understand
JamesAHarrod
big oil all like
McFrostenwulf
ablamboo2
US Congress: 3 passionate members plus 532 useless, selfish, corrupt fucks
Themiskyra
Looks like she knows how to do a good job
hullabanana
Amazing woman. Wish she was a uk politician
IrreverentFool
What do you mean “almost as if.” That’s exactly what happens. I’m not exaggerating.
Duros62
More proof, as Wil Wheaton says, that Republicans are garbage.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
She seems spot on. I don't have the know-how to claim to know the facts, but I cheer her passion, and respect her conviction. AOC 2024.
Kevinbfree
The leader we need.
cinecito360
If America wasn't such a backwards place, this woman would be serious presidential material.
ValiantToast
I'd vote for her if she ran for POTUS in 2024.
RolandLovecraft
I have a serious question. Do any of these public meetings/hearings/votes in anyway actually sway a single member? I lean progressive—>
But this is theater on a grand scale, IMO. Any Bill of anything that hits that Floor has most likely been decided behind the curtain already
Windborne
The point isn't always to sway insiders as it is to raise awareness. Those folks have a big friggin megaphone for that purpose. Good or ill.
scottEkarate
It's "almost" like? No, it's exactly like oil companies wrote the bill. Because they did.
Justwarlockthings
I love this woman. She’s fearless. She’s educated. She cares about the average person. She wants to do good.
Jewdakris
Even if she's exaggerating at all, why the fuck aren't we expanding solar and wind production or even nuclear. This is ridiculous.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Here's the thing with oil royalties. They sell the oil to a subsidiary and huge discounts to minimize the royalties already, and then the…
…subsidiary sells them at the market cost. So yeah, lower royalty rates are even better for their profits, but they've already done a…
…pretty good job at maximizing profits
Not "and huge discounts"; should be "at huge discounts"
sadurdaynight
Telecom was same way. They lease public lands lines run across. But, they act like they own it.
sauronater
It disgusts me that they can get land for $10 an acre. Wealthy people and corporations are outrageously privileged.
rouzuki
Makes me wonder if communities can pitch in and stake a claim to public lands near them, since no minerals need be discovered.
To block others from drilling.
trippingthelightfantastic
Exdeath5000
Thought of the GQP and this came to mind. Must be because they both start with G
dwolvin
This is a seriously terrible bill.
Sticklebrickk
You sound like a de-mo-crat
maincarrot
Waiting for the docuseries called "American Sell Outs" and it's just 34 seasons about Republicans giving shit away to companies.
TheMershedPerderder
Let your politicians know how you feel about the bill https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
AuntieCoddswaddle
I bet the GQP subreddits have some twisted spins of this interpretation of the bill that would trigger my depression pretty effectively.
tdurdon24
Republicans are seriously terrible.
ItAintAllitsCrackedUpToBe
Yah, but 'Merica!! I mean we can trust them oil guys. My big ol' truck ain't goin' nowheres if they ain't drillin' for my baby's fossil food
naomiMoonBeast
When have the Republicans ever brought a reasonable freaking bill they refused to even think rationally let alone meet in the middle
Drakenborn
Even if it wasn't, even if the bill was just "meh" - When has giving oil companies what they wanted paid off E-V-E-R? There's always an 1/2
excuse. All big companies are like this "Well you passed the bill and we were THIS close to doing what we promised and then _____ happened"
Whether collectively or individually at your own job the company will always but just THIS close... but then can't because _______
jkirshy81
What are the chances it will go through? Canadian and curious.
cominginhot
Canadian and curious must do wonders on timber
StephenDaniels
Zero. Its just a means to set the stage for negotiating the debt limit increase. The plan I expect is to 'give up' 3/4s of it in cont>
cont> exchange for passing the debt limit increase. If the D's keep their backbone they'll give up nothing.
Poor, as long as we can generate some public outcry. We can still shame a few to vote against...
xj4low
GOP can't be shamed.
sleepinggreenidea
Mainstream Democrats are spineless, though, and very susceptible to being shamed into inaction. (Action, not so much.)
Dems lack the ability to band together and don't hit hard when campaign time comes. Don't know if they see it as the high road or what.
Chewiedawookie
As I get older I find myself leaning more towards the left. She makes logical and factual points.
Zimyoumoron
Rep. AOC: H.R. 1 Sides with Big Oil - https://youtu.be/ZbTCXDgXSc0 - And here's the bill https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr1/text
ATDWorks
Get up there you! Thanks
Walfas
Royalty rates from 50-60% down to 12.5%. That's pretty massive, yeah.
GBMaker
It really is too bad she doesn't want to become President. I like her clarity and articulation.
Gryphonosiris
If you thought the GQP hated Hillary, they hate AOC even more because she's a young educated Hispanic woman who worked a blue collar job.
SJBSavageInk
That'll change eventually I think but we need her in congress right now and she probably wants more experience there herself
LukeBeGod
If she said she wanted to be president, she would be fighting off a mob of republicans smearing her even more. Her time will come
KatehasaBlog
I think she will someday
CasualMemeLord
As a Canadian. Hot damn I agree. Also hi friend!
Hello!
SirZiggity
Are you nuts! AOC is a self serving socialist fool-she wrong abiut this bill? No!But she’s the same one who was against Amazon in Queens•DUM
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fibbertitgibbet
Specially not here
verenelda
She's not old enough to run yet. Needs to be at least 35. Might also be too divisive for pres? - hard to see GOP working with her at all.
I like to think she would use the office own them publicly and try to put the final nail in the coffin of right wing extremism.
DuckPlanetKing
Returdicans don’t with any democrat. Stop being naive, it’s us vs them now.
She will turn 35 in October of '24, just one month before the Presidential elections.
GravyEducation
Not to be all Johnny Practical about it but it would make MUCH more sense for her to continue gaining legislative experience for a run later
IamMadeOfShamrocks
And I'm guessing from my vast experience of watching the Wire that she has not "paid her dues" yet.
Snooj
And that's what she's said. She does want to, but later.
truemetalman
She could also do a lot more good if she can get to be Speaker, though I doubt the party will let that happen.
GeneralAnubis
As much as I agree, "later" may well be too late if Republicans gain any more power
Castriff
Well, we'll just have to make sure that doesn't happen, now, won't we?
charondaboatman
Funny how when you say it upvotes abound, I say it and I get shit on. Lol, I love this place, such a single sense of focus….lol
Its real fickle. Throw it in with my other 50/50 up/downvote comments like saying "you don't hate religion, you hate evangelicals"+1 to you
rosebudthesled
Long term goals when 2024 is up for grabs to the Nazi Party isn't great forethought.
She's not gonna win an early bid so lose/lose if she does. Lose the office, attach the stigma of a lost election. Sometimes it's a 1/
Terrible plan to move the Queen before other pieces. I'm not Nostradmus, I'm just saying another candidate is smarter imo
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
We need more of this woman.
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
She's beautiful and wonderful
sorryforsayingthat
So exactly fuckin correct! She's brilliant, gets it, and can be a bad ass.
mindstorm8191
We need more people like her in congress
iabductaliens11
This. All of this.
TheWayThatIsKownIsNotTheWay
she is the personification of everything they hate and i am here for it.
CyanideBreathMint
Another dozen of her and another dozen of Michaela Cavanaughs and we may have some progress happening here.
Right?
No, bub. Left.
horseman05
AOC 2024.
thereitis101
She turns 35 the month before elections but not yet. She will continue to gain power but they’re going to come for her hard. She can take t
DaveSamsonite
I’d vote for her if she was nominated, she has spine and character and is a fighter
We need control of the house and senate also or the GQP will not let any legislation pass.
4554073
Any One Competent 2024. Agreed. Good with her too.
thunkinduncin
Love this gal
autocorrectfailures
Agreed, however, there's more power to be had in the house.
Nanntuckett
I think she’ll run eventually, not very soon.
Wye734
The DNC would do everything legal and illegal to keep that from ever happening. Look in the after math of super Tuesday of 2020
FlavorFinger
I'd vote for her
brianbrian4566
QuartzPoker
Is she old enough? That's my only concern- she's gotta be 35. Its in the Constitution.
theoccultist
She would be old enough in time to be sworn in.
That's good enough for me!
InfocalypseRising
Her party would almost certainly not allow it.
shackslam
That ain't happening, like ever. Establishment dems will shoot her down, even at the cost of losing an election, just as they did Bernie.
thatsmyfetish69
She’s definitely the future but not just yet…
MmmmmSoup
Knowing how insane republicans are I'm afried she would get shot I'd she tried
bangbangbangbangbangbangbangban
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-president-campaign-2024-b2161777.html
Maviyakuku
AOC & Jon Stewart. Same ticket.
Zainadin
He has said over and over again he doesn't want to run and feels he can do more by continuing to do what he does now.
stankginchfurbuger
Counter point - zelynskiy.
Zelynskiy is his own man in a different country and decided to run for his country. Stewart doesn't want the job.
tReasonoustRump
He said over and over again he doesn’t want to run.
No.
Lol, downvotes straight from the hearts of the young. She could be a VP, but she’s not ready to be The President of a World Superpower.1/2
2/? She’s idealistic, with no experience in foreign policy, economics, politics, etc.. Some of her ideas are good ones, some are not - >>>>
3/3 she’s headed in the right direction, but needs more experience to bring wisdom and compromise into her toolkit. Now downvote me at will.
Solrokr
Yeah. We need a president who will compromise with the ... *checks notes* fascists that want to eradicate trans people.
TheRealArclight
nO..derrrrrr..
Noobsauce2184
i don't she cant run for 7 more years, i believe you have to be 40 to run for POTUS
fauxcault
35. She's 33 now, turns 34 in October.
Ah, that's the one, thanks, so we'd have to wait for 2028 at least. However, I do think thinks she's ever mentioned plans on running
The701
Well, she turns 35 in October of 2024, so she could, if she wanted to, run in 2024.
SwirlyMcGirly
Fun fact: The average life expectancy in 1776 was 35.
drunkbs
Funner fact: that number is so low because if the infant mortality rate brought the average down.
Vidikron
Katie Porter and AOC would make a helluva ticket. Jon Stewart and either would be unstoppable, but won't happen.
heartlessninja6
I understand why he wouldn’t, but this country needs someone like him. (Many great leaders in history have had greatness thrust upon them)
Razblaze
I'd love to see John Stewart in a debate on the nation stage.
plainoldfool
Oh how I would love to see Katie Porter face off against any GOP candidate in a debate.
DonL9
Katie: (picks up whiteboard). Fox "News": "... and now we present a documentary on Ronald Reagan and the Capitalist Dream Years."
InfOracle
*pulls out small whiteboard*
Leucienweaver
Remember that the RNC started denying debates, saying what was essentially 'We don't want you bullying us anymore'
whitebbwolf
why the fuck NOT?
Jon said he won't do it. If I had 5 minutes of his time, I'd try and convince him it's his duty with his notoriety, knowledge & charisma.
wargames
AoC needs to stay in the house and take over as leadership, fox and the media will tank her run as president harder than hillary
req4adream99
YES!
TsubakiTragic
Agreed... and I hate to say this but I feel she needs a few more years in Congress under her belt... just a credibility thing.
erwinmahatma
If she becomes the president she’s done after 8 years, tops. If she stays in congress she can play the game until she’s Bernie age.
You can run for congress even after being a 2 term president. Andrew Johnson and John Adams did.
Yeah, she probably would return. I’m just worried about the chance she wouldn’t. But then again, Hillary did it after being FLOTUS.
andwings2go
Only if Biden chooses not to run. If a sitting President has a heated primary you are handing the White House to the other side in November.
Can Biden technically pick a different VP this go (despite it being a bit of a backhand to the current)? Or is that not allowed? 1/2
Cause there's a pretty good chance that KH will become President if Biden gets re-elected, from natural causes alone. And KH isn't great 2/2
Biden will be old AF. So will Trump.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
I think Biden has done a fair bit of good as President, but I hope he doesn't run for a 2nd term. I'll vote for him again, but I'd much 1/
prefer someone else. Whitmer or Newsom would be the two I'd want to see the most. 2/2
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Pritzker too, if he wasn't already busy keeping IL out of the cornfuck rustbelt that surrounds it.
bippityboppitybuttsex
1976.... 1980...
And 92 could be argued. Perot did have a major hand there though.
Perot was always running as a 3rd-party, he never challenged Bush (I did Iran-Contra and pardoned everyone) Sr. for the nomination
It’s been theorized that most of the votes he took were from Bush. Whether or not they would’ve added up in EC is anyone’s guess.
FUCKING BERNIE SANDERS. It’ll never happen but it should have and stil should.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
He's not technically a dem so they won't let him win a primary. Pelosi actively tanked his campaign.
Pelosi and her ilk are Corporate Democrats, Biden is a hairs breadth from R. And he’s now allowing drilling in Alaska. He said he wouldn’t.
bluefisherking
Oh goodness yes. I wish you had put Bernie in the Whitehouse. Could have transformed life In your country. Saddens me me that you didn’t.
autodidacticcortex
They primaried him … to maintain status quo. It confounds me that people still expect change.
Don’t take hope away from people, I mean me, dick. I know they were gonna tank Bernie but you have to stand behind something you believe in.
Welllllllll I kinda view it as giving hope. When you give up on status quo you can start thinking about and hoping for real change.
Sorry for calling you a dick.
ilwrath
I think it's high time we take some senseless hope away from people. We should have already learned hopes and prayers don't get shit done.
SnazzyDad
She is a goddamn treasure, and I'm not even from the U.S.
PithyCommentBelow
Hang on a second. You’re telling me that the GOP is siding with a corporation over the public interest? How can it be???
Dizastrpiece
WaitingManAus
I like that her explanation simply states how little the American people gain from this Bill - in small words even a MAGA could understand
JamesAHarrod
big oil all like
McFrostenwulf
ablamboo2
US Congress: 3 passionate members plus 532 useless, selfish, corrupt fucks
Themiskyra
Looks like she knows how to do a good job
hullabanana
Amazing woman. Wish she was a uk politician
IrreverentFool
What do you mean “almost as if.” That’s exactly what happens. I’m not exaggerating.
Duros62
More proof, as Wil Wheaton says, that Republicans are garbage.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
She seems spot on. I don't have the know-how to claim to know the facts, but I cheer her passion, and respect her conviction. AOC 2024.
Kevinbfree
The leader we need.
cinecito360
If America wasn't such a backwards place, this woman would be serious presidential material.
ValiantToast
I'd vote for her if she ran for POTUS in 2024.
RolandLovecraft
I have a serious question. Do any of these public meetings/hearings/votes in anyway actually sway a single member? I lean progressive—>
RolandLovecraft
But this is theater on a grand scale, IMO. Any Bill of anything that hits that Floor has most likely been decided behind the curtain already
Windborne
The point isn't always to sway insiders as it is to raise awareness. Those folks have a big friggin megaphone for that purpose. Good or ill.
scottEkarate
It's "almost" like? No, it's exactly like oil companies wrote the bill. Because they did.
Justwarlockthings
I love this woman. She’s fearless. She’s educated. She cares about the average person. She wants to do good.
Jewdakris
Even if she's exaggerating at all, why the fuck aren't we expanding solar and wind production or even nuclear. This is ridiculous.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Here's the thing with oil royalties. They sell the oil to a subsidiary and huge discounts to minimize the royalties already, and then the…
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
…subsidiary sells them at the market cost. So yeah, lower royalty rates are even better for their profits, but they've already done a…
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
…pretty good job at maximizing profits
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Not "and huge discounts"; should be "at huge discounts"
sadurdaynight
Telecom was same way. They lease public lands lines run across. But, they act like they own it.
sauronater
It disgusts me that they can get land for $10 an acre. Wealthy people and corporations are outrageously privileged.
rouzuki
Makes me wonder if communities can pitch in and stake a claim to public lands near them, since no minerals need be discovered.
rouzuki
To block others from drilling.
trippingthelightfantastic
Exdeath5000
Thought of the GQP and this came to mind. Must be because they both start with G
dwolvin
This is a seriously terrible bill.
Sticklebrickk
You sound like a de-mo-crat
maincarrot
Waiting for the docuseries called "American Sell Outs" and it's just 34 seasons about Republicans giving shit away to companies.
TheMershedPerderder
Let your politicians know how you feel about the bill https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
AuntieCoddswaddle
I bet the GQP subreddits have some twisted spins of this interpretation of the bill that would trigger my depression pretty effectively.
tdurdon24
Republicans are seriously terrible.
ItAintAllitsCrackedUpToBe
Yah, but 'Merica!! I mean we can trust them oil guys. My big ol' truck ain't goin' nowheres if they ain't drillin' for my baby's fossil food
naomiMoonBeast
When have the Republicans ever brought a reasonable freaking bill they refused to even think rationally let alone meet in the middle
Drakenborn
Even if it wasn't, even if the bill was just "meh" - When has giving oil companies what they wanted paid off E-V-E-R? There's always an 1/2
Drakenborn
excuse. All big companies are like this "Well you passed the bill and we were THIS close to doing what we promised and then _____ happened"
Drakenborn
Whether collectively or individually at your own job the company will always but just THIS close... but then can't because _______
jkirshy81
What are the chances it will go through? Canadian and curious.
cominginhot
Canadian and curious must do wonders on timber
StephenDaniels
Zero. Its just a means to set the stage for negotiating the debt limit increase. The plan I expect is to 'give up' 3/4s of it in cont>
StephenDaniels
cont> exchange for passing the debt limit increase. If the D's keep their backbone they'll give up nothing.
dwolvin
Poor, as long as we can generate some public outcry. We can still shame a few to vote against...
xj4low
GOP can't be shamed.
sleepinggreenidea
Mainstream Democrats are spineless, though, and very susceptible to being shamed into inaction. (Action, not so much.)
xj4low
Dems lack the ability to band together and don't hit hard when campaign time comes. Don't know if they see it as the high road or what.
Chewiedawookie
As I get older I find myself leaning more towards the left. She makes logical and factual points.
Zimyoumoron
Rep. AOC: H.R. 1 Sides with Big Oil - https://youtu.be/ZbTCXDgXSc0 - And here's the bill https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr1/text
ATDWorks
Get up there you! Thanks
Walfas
Royalty rates from 50-60% down to 12.5%. That's pretty massive, yeah.
GBMaker
It really is too bad she doesn't want to become President. I like her clarity and articulation.
Gryphonosiris
If you thought the GQP hated Hillary, they hate AOC even more because she's a young educated Hispanic woman who worked a blue collar job.
SJBSavageInk
That'll change eventually I think but we need her in congress right now and she probably wants more experience there herself
LukeBeGod
If she said she wanted to be president, she would be fighting off a mob of republicans smearing her even more. Her time will come
KatehasaBlog
I think she will someday
CasualMemeLord
As a Canadian. Hot damn I agree. Also hi friend!
GBMaker
Hello!
SirZiggity
Are you nuts! AOC is a self serving socialist fool-she wrong abiut this bill? No!But she’s the same one who was against Amazon in Queens•DUM
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fibbertitgibbet
Specially not here
verenelda
She's not old enough to run yet. Needs to be at least 35. Might also be too divisive for pres? - hard to see GOP working with her at all.
LukeBeGod
I like to think she would use the office own them publicly and try to put the final nail in the coffin of right wing extremism.
DuckPlanetKing
Returdicans don’t with any democrat. Stop being naive, it’s us vs them now.
GBMaker
She will turn 35 in October of '24, just one month before the Presidential elections.
GravyEducation
Not to be all Johnny Practical about it but it would make MUCH more sense for her to continue gaining legislative experience for a run later
IamMadeOfShamrocks
And I'm guessing from my vast experience of watching the Wire that she has not "paid her dues" yet.
Snooj
And that's what she's said. She does want to, but later.
truemetalman
She could also do a lot more good if she can get to be Speaker, though I doubt the party will let that happen.
GeneralAnubis
As much as I agree, "later" may well be too late if Republicans gain any more power
Castriff
Well, we'll just have to make sure that doesn't happen, now, won't we?
charondaboatman
Funny how when you say it upvotes abound, I say it and I get shit on. Lol, I love this place, such a single sense of focus….lol
GravyEducation
Its real fickle. Throw it in with my other 50/50 up/downvote comments like saying "you don't hate religion, you hate evangelicals"+1 to you
rosebudthesled
Long term goals when 2024 is up for grabs to the Nazi Party isn't great forethought.
GravyEducation
She's not gonna win an early bid so lose/lose if she does. Lose the office, attach the stigma of a lost election. Sometimes it's a 1/
GravyEducation
Terrible plan to move the Queen before other pieces. I'm not Nostradmus, I'm just saying another candidate is smarter imo
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
We need more of this woman.
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
She's beautiful and wonderful
sorryforsayingthat
So exactly fuckin correct! She's brilliant, gets it, and can be a bad ass.
mindstorm8191
We need more people like her in congress
iabductaliens11
This. All of this.
TheWayThatIsKownIsNotTheWay
she is the personification of everything they hate and i am here for it.
CyanideBreathMint
Another dozen of her and another dozen of Michaela Cavanaughs and we may have some progress happening here.
GBMaker
Right?
RolandLovecraft
No, bub. Left.
horseman05
AOC 2024.
thereitis101
She turns 35 the month before elections but not yet. She will continue to gain power but they’re going to come for her hard. She can take t
DaveSamsonite
I’d vote for her if she was nominated, she has spine and character and is a fighter
DaveSamsonite
We need control of the house and senate also or the GQP will not let any legislation pass.
4554073
Any One Competent 2024. Agreed. Good with her too.
thunkinduncin
Love this gal
autocorrectfailures
Agreed, however, there's more power to be had in the house.
Nanntuckett
I think she’ll run eventually, not very soon.
Wye734
The DNC would do everything legal and illegal to keep that from ever happening. Look in the after math of super Tuesday of 2020
FlavorFinger
I'd vote for her
brianbrian4566
QuartzPoker
Is she old enough? That's my only concern- she's gotta be 35. Its in the Constitution.
theoccultist
She would be old enough in time to be sworn in.
QuartzPoker
That's good enough for me!
InfocalypseRising
Her party would almost certainly not allow it.
shackslam
That ain't happening, like ever. Establishment dems will shoot her down, even at the cost of losing an election, just as they did Bernie.
thatsmyfetish69
She’s definitely the future but not just yet…
MmmmmSoup
Knowing how insane republicans are I'm afried she would get shot I'd she tried
bangbangbangbangbangbangbangban
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-president-campaign-2024-b2161777.html
Maviyakuku
AOC & Jon Stewart. Same ticket.
Zainadin
He has said over and over again he doesn't want to run and feels he can do more by continuing to do what he does now.
stankginchfurbuger
Counter point - zelynskiy.
Zainadin
Zelynskiy is his own man in a different country and decided to run for his country. Stewart doesn't want the job.
tReasonoustRump
He said over and over again he doesn’t want to run.
charondaboatman
No.
charondaboatman
Lol, downvotes straight from the hearts of the young. She could be a VP, but she’s not ready to be The President of a World Superpower.1/2
charondaboatman
2/? She’s idealistic, with no experience in foreign policy, economics, politics, etc.. Some of her ideas are good ones, some are not - >>>>
charondaboatman
3/3 she’s headed in the right direction, but needs more experience to bring wisdom and compromise into her toolkit. Now downvote me at will.
Solrokr
Yeah. We need a president who will compromise with the ... *checks notes* fascists that want to eradicate trans people.
TheRealArclight
nO..derrrrrr..
Noobsauce2184
i don't she cant run for 7 more years, i believe you have to be 40 to run for POTUS
fauxcault
35. She's 33 now, turns 34 in October.
Noobsauce2184
Ah, that's the one, thanks, so we'd have to wait for 2028 at least. However, I do think thinks she's ever mentioned plans on running
The701
Well, she turns 35 in October of 2024, so she could, if she wanted to, run in 2024.
SwirlyMcGirly
Fun fact: The average life expectancy in 1776 was 35.
drunkbs
Funner fact: that number is so low because if the infant mortality rate brought the average down.
Vidikron
Katie Porter and AOC would make a helluva ticket. Jon Stewart and either would be unstoppable, but won't happen.
heartlessninja6
I understand why he wouldn’t, but this country needs someone like him. (Many great leaders in history have had greatness thrust upon them)
Razblaze
I'd love to see John Stewart in a debate on the nation stage.
plainoldfool
Oh how I would love to see Katie Porter face off against any GOP candidate in a debate.
DonL9
Katie: (picks up whiteboard). Fox "News": "... and now we present a documentary on Ronald Reagan and the Capitalist Dream Years."
InfOracle
*pulls out small whiteboard*
Leucienweaver
Remember that the RNC started denying debates, saying what was essentially 'We don't want you bullying us anymore'
whitebbwolf
why the fuck NOT?
Vidikron
Jon said he won't do it. If I had 5 minutes of his time, I'd try and convince him it's his duty with his notoriety, knowledge & charisma.
wargames
AoC needs to stay in the house and take over as leadership, fox and the media will tank her run as president harder than hillary
req4adream99
YES!
TsubakiTragic
Agreed... and I hate to say this but I feel she needs a few more years in Congress under her belt... just a credibility thing.
erwinmahatma
If she becomes the president she’s done after 8 years, tops. If she stays in congress she can play the game until she’s Bernie age.
Razblaze
You can run for congress even after being a 2 term president. Andrew Johnson and John Adams did.
erwinmahatma
Yeah, she probably would return. I’m just worried about the chance she wouldn’t. But then again, Hillary did it after being FLOTUS.
andwings2go
Only if Biden chooses not to run. If a sitting President has a heated primary you are handing the White House to the other side in November.
rouzuki
Can Biden technically pick a different VP this go (despite it being a bit of a backhand to the current)? Or is that not allowed? 1/2
rouzuki
Cause there's a pretty good chance that KH will become President if Biden gets re-elected, from natural causes alone. And KH isn't great 2/2
tReasonoustRump
Biden will be old AF. So will Trump.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
I think Biden has done a fair bit of good as President, but I hope he doesn't run for a 2nd term. I'll vote for him again, but I'd much 1/
ImHereToGetDownvotes
prefer someone else. Whitmer or Newsom would be the two I'd want to see the most. 2/2
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Pritzker too, if he wasn't already busy keeping IL out of the cornfuck rustbelt that surrounds it.
bippityboppitybuttsex
1976.... 1980...
andwings2go
And 92 could be argued. Perot did have a major hand there though.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Perot was always running as a 3rd-party, he never challenged Bush (I did Iran-Contra and pardoned everyone) Sr. for the nomination
andwings2go
It’s been theorized that most of the votes he took were from Bush. Whether or not they would’ve added up in EC is anyone’s guess.
RolandLovecraft
FUCKING BERNIE SANDERS. It’ll never happen but it should have and stil should.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
He's not technically a dem so they won't let him win a primary. Pelosi actively tanked his campaign.
RolandLovecraft
Pelosi and her ilk are Corporate Democrats, Biden is a hairs breadth from R. And he’s now allowing drilling in Alaska. He said he wouldn’t.
bluefisherking
Oh goodness yes. I wish you had put Bernie in the Whitehouse. Could have transformed life In your country. Saddens me me that you didn’t.
autodidacticcortex
They primaried him … to maintain status quo. It confounds me that people still expect change.
RolandLovecraft
Don’t take hope away from people, I mean me, dick. I know they were gonna tank Bernie but you have to stand behind something you believe in.
autodidacticcortex
Welllllllll I kinda view it as giving hope. When you give up on status quo you can start thinking about and hoping for real change.
RolandLovecraft
Sorry for calling you a dick.
ilwrath
I think it's high time we take some senseless hope away from people. We should have already learned hopes and prayers don't get shit done.