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I posted a couple days ago to see if anyone was interested in this and there was some interest, so here we go. A little background here. I'm a female correctional officer at a maximum security men's (state level) prison, and most of our inmates are segregation status. The best way I've heard it put, by one of my Leutinants: if you screw up in society, you go to jail. If you screw up bad enough in society, you go to prison. If you screw up in prison, you go to segregation. And if you screw up in segregation, you go to the prison I work at. So we have the worst in the state at my facility.
Does prison actually do anything positive?
Let's just get this out there... The AVERAGE sentence in the facility I work at is 75 YEARS. These guys aren't in on petty drug charges. They are in for murder, rape, molestation, and stuff like that. So most of these guys are not getting out. However, there are multiple programs and classes that inmates can get involved in to better themselves. This includes anger management classes, substance abuse classes, and a metric fuck ton of programs to help with mental illnesses. We also have a medium security unit, and the inmates out there can go to GED classes and vocational classes. We do offer a GED program for max inmates, but they aren't classes. They will get lessons through mail (either through an outside source or institutionally) and complete the lessons and turn them in to get graded. Our medium unit definitely helps to prepare inmates to reenter society more than the max side. Our max size more helps with behaving better in prison.
Is it common for women to do a job like that?
While I wouldn't say that it's uncommon exactly. But, let's face it, it's definitely a male dominant field of work. There are quite a few female officers, but we are well out numbered by our male counter-parts.
How often do inmates get raped?
Rape happens a lot lot lot less often than the movies might make you think. Is prison rape a thing? Yes, but in my time there I've only heard of one inmate saying that he was raped. Consensual sex also happens though. I've never actually seen it happening thankfully. But one day there was some weird noises coming from the end of the gallery. I walked down to make sure everything was okay. By the time I got to the end, both of the inmates were in their own bunks... But as soon as I got to the cell, all I could smell was shit, sweat, and shame....
Have you ever had relations with an inmate/fallen in love with an inmate/smuggled in contraband for an inmate?
Hell to the no to all questions asked. Nothing is worth losing my career, family, and reputation, especially something so damn stupid. Also, I don't want to end up in prison myself. There has been females at the facility I work at that had relations with inmates They got shit canned and lost their pension. COs have also brought in contraband for inmates. I don't get it. These guys are not your friends. They will try to manipulate you to get whatever they want, whether it's getting "personal" with a female or bringing in contraband. And once they have you bring one thing in, they have you by the balls. Won't do it the next time? These dudes will blackmail you. It's just ignorant in my opinion.
Any advice for other COs or someone about to become a CO?
There's a few simple rules on how to be a good CO...
1. Don't answer a question you don't know the answer to. If they want an answer now, just say no. It's a fuck ton easier to change a no to a yes than a yes to a no.
2. Don't spin inmates. Don't say you're going to do something and not do it. It'll make your day and theirs a lot easier.
3. FIRM. FAIR. CONSISTENT. Learn it, live it, love it. Treat everyone the same way, every single time, and be firm about it. Dont be an asshole, but you have to establish yourself above them in the pecking order.
4. We might be the "po-lice" there, but accept the fact that that is their home, and you're merely a visitor.
5. Stick to your gut. If you don't feel safe about doing something, don't freaking do it. If you think someone has something bogus in their cell, search it. I'd much rather search 100 cells because of a gut feelings and not find anything than not do 1 that I had a gut feeling about and have a shank end up in someone's back. Do your damn shake downs.
6. Check your fucking locks. 'nough said.
7. Be safe. Follow the damn safety and security procedures. It's not only for your safety, but the safety of the other COs and inmates. If it's on paper, it's because the system was broken and they attempted to fix it. And nothing gets fixed until it's failed 100 times.
8. Most importantly... If you can't be safe, be deadly. Your biggest concern every single day you go into work is that you and your fellow COs go home in one piece.
Mandatory Dog Tax. My 1 and a half year old Dutch Shepherd Brindi, 10 year old possible husky mix Bear, and 10 year old some kind of hound mix Izzy (also known as FatDog).
lenomdeplume
Is this an accurate assessment? " Ask them, tell them, make them" From Southland.
snickerz
Yes. Ask them to do it. Give them a direct order to do it. Then make them do it (depending what it is.)
lenomdeplume
Thanks. That show authentic. Although it ended with a tragedy
kevinator
It's always nice to see a fellow CO with the same philosophy as I. "They live there" was told to me early in my career. Changed everything.
snickerz
Exactly!!
kevinator
The phrase was said to me by an inmate. It made complete sense.
drpainmd
Absolutely fascinating! More please!
Dickhooker
Your husky mix bear looks like my huskyish baby bear!!
balidown
Not sure about your turnkey but the one at our prison was the worst post ever! Nothing but assholes and ballsacks all day.
mkreku
The average sentence is 75 years? Holy crap. The longest anyone has ever been in prison in Sweden is 34 years!
ansiz
This was a really cool read. I'd be interested in an AMA on reddit, just for some back and forth Q&A.
EatinButtsAndBustinNuts
My dad works as an administrative Sergeant at a correctional facility in my town. Oh the things I've heard. Stay safe!
WhatExactlyIs
damn, worst part of this was that you had to smell fresh churned dookie butter. sorry man.
StormSaxon
So, Santorum?
HuckleofLogantown
Savage, Dan Savage
SlackerTactical
*ma'am
snickerz
You get my up vote for saying "fresh churned Dookie butter" Best thing I've heard all day.
AkLonewolf
My father was a CO for 26 years before he passed. He always said he did the job so I never had to.
TheChickenFromOuterSpace
Going up
betterave
Great stories, thanks.
yelwing
A bunch of turds in need of flushing. I'm so against the electric chair, NOW ELECTRIC BLEACHERS I CAN GET BEHIND!
Raysonson
I studied to be a correctional officer in college, but dropped out because the horror stores from my teachers were just too graphic. +1
RJ444
Good on you and that was the smart thing to do. I know it isn't for me too.
Broomghost69
I'll take about 5 more of these.
snickerz
I'll make another post tonight or tomorrow!
RagingKitty
Am I the only one who read this in Star Trek Voyager's Belonna Torres's voice?
SixMoose
Please kind sir, may you smuggle us in some more work stories
Iwantgreenarrows
Well done. Firm fair and consistent!
RJ444
I worked many years in a psychiatric hospital and although it could be rough, I definitely knew that prison was way worse.
snickerz
If my state keeps going the way they are, we won't have any prisons anymore, only psychiatric hospitals.
snickerz
Mental illness is a real issue. But so is claiming a mental illness for Seg cuts or behaving like a fucking jackass.
RJ444
In Canada, I don't think it's as bad. But it doesn't do the people that mentally ill any good to be in prison.
TechnicalDrift
My dad leads a shift, and I can't tell you how unreliable new COs are. No you can't fucking take the day off at the last second you manchild
snickerz
Sweet baby Jesus, new Jacks are so fucking stupid with that sometimes!! They come in little know it all that's because Academy taught 1/2
snickerz
Them everything they need to know. A guy that's had been there for a month tried to tell me how to do my job.. didn't work very well for him
GoodJobDaddy
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Elmalo11
Well said.
wafflestompa
I just hacked your Facebook. Shouldn't have left it open on your laptop.
snickerz
That's my mom's. You're now a 66 year old woman. Have fun!
wafflestompa
My dream has finally come true. Also; you don't come visit your father and I enough. When am I going to have grand babies?
snickerz
I don't visit enough? I live here!! And dad died 12 years ago... when did you get dementia?
duckshooter
Is it true that pedophiles are treated like garbage by inmates?
snickerz
Yes. Even murderers know that you don't fuck with children. One guy killed his cellie in the 90s because he was a pedo. Added another 25
snickerz
Years to his sentence. He said he'd do it again. They ruined an innocent child's life and he made sure that the pedo wouldn't hurt a kid agn
fuck123456789
do you believe in rehabilitation or just straight punishment?
snickerz
Rehabilitation is awesome and works a good part of the time.. IF the person wants to be rehabilitated. You can lead a horse to water..
Hipstersayswhat
There is no way I could do that job. I am way too anxious! I would worry that everyone would try to take my gun or overpower me all the time
snickerz
We don't carry a firearm, a baton, or even OC (pepper) spray. We've got keys, cuffs, and a radio.
Dahliaisahedgehog
Wow. How common is it for inmates to take advantage of that? Have you ever felt worried or scared for your personal safety?
snickerz
Worried, yes. Not necessarily scared though.
EddieLiesHere
Have you noticed an Rita Hayworth posters?
wolfenthusiast
you've got to make sure an inmate doesn't up and vanish, like a fart in the wind.
difficultdifficultlemondifficult
You can always ask Fussy Britches
itwastimetostoplurking
My sister is finally getting out of the CO life. She moved from maximum security to minimum security and hated it.
snickerz
I'm dating a guy that works at a minimum joint... I would completely hate it too.
aap71
how come? isn't minimum less dangerous short-timers with something to lose?
snickerz
Usually yes. The quote I'm known for at work: Just because he's not a staff assaulted today doesn't mean he won't be tomorrow.
snickerz
As my LT has said: "I'm like 1000 and 0 against a dude in handcuffs. As soon as they slip a cuff theye have a weapon. Don't be a dummy"
aap71
tell the truth: if 2 inmates are fighting with weapons, do you hang back and give verbal commands so you don't get stuck?
itwastimetostoplurking
She said it's so much more dangerous than than the max. It doesn't help that the people she works with are incompetent.
Sacurason
That's really fascinating because from an outside viewpoint it feels like it should work the opposite way, at least w/ the danger level.
itwastimetostoplurking
The max is contained whereas in the min they are in huge bays that are unable to be secured. Once shit goes down its hard to stop.
snickerz
Couldn't have put it better myself. Most inmates at my facility have to be cuffed before a cell door is opened. Steel-on-skin cuffed.
kevinator
Working in a prison definitely makes you jaded to a lot of things. We find things humorous that most find morbid or disgusting. 1/2
kevinator
We talk about things that hearing out of context would be unsociable.
snickerz
A guy asked me for a cup of water because he had "just tried to hang himself and his throat was dry." ..
kevinator
Today.. Had a guy have a seizure while I was handing out mail. I left him seizing until medical got there.. Guy has them regularly.
kevinator
My wife was weirded out at how I was talking about this guy having a seizure like it happens everyday.
kevinator
With how often seizures happen in prison.. You'd think you would see people dropping left and right at the grocery store.
snickerz
I said "Well if you would have succeeded you wouldn't be thirsty, you failure." He came into my facility yesterday for assaulting a CO.
snickerz
People who assault COs I have no sympathy for. He tried to hang himself because he didn't get his property while on strip out.
snickerz
He fucking goes home in November.
GapingHeadwound
D'ya laik dags?
aap71
do i like what?
ForestFeller
Oh, DOGS. Yeh, I like DOGS
kevinator
As a Correctional officer. Can confirm.. Some weird shit happens. Inmate culture is insane from an outside viewpoint.
RJ444
If the ratio of guards to inmates is like what we see on TV .. how the majority of officers aren't nervous wrecks is beyond me.
OfficerBob
At my unit we turn out about 100 officers and have 3500 offenders, we are always outnumbered but we are used to it.
kevinator
We get by. Turnover is a helluva thing.
snickerz
It really is. We had one guy say he wasn't keeping his own feces in a tray in his cell for any "bogus" reason. Uhm, excuse me?v
difficultdifficultlemondifficult
I don't understand- what tray did he mean?
kevinator
Food tray. Set inmates get fed at their cell. B&B.. Is what we call it
kevinator
Seg*
difficultdifficultlemondifficult
Ooh gotcha. Thank you!!
fistermatic5000
Is that all though? It was just getting interesting and *poof* dog tax.
kevinator
Seriously.. I would like to swap stories.
snickerz
I'm down. Message me!
kevinator
I'm on mobile.......
snickerz
Wasn't sure how well it'd be perceived. If there's a question you want answered let me know. I will do another post!
kevinator
I've always thought about doing one of these 'Stories from a Correctional Officer.' You've inspired me.
fistermatic5000
Nothing in particular. CO work stories in particular are always interesting